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  • EXCLUSIVE: Disney-owned ABC has put in development Epic, a romantic anthology series, from former Once Upon a Time writer Brigitte Hales, series creators/executive producers/showrunners Eddy Kitsis & Adam Horowitz, their Kitsis & Horowitz Productions and ABC Signature Studios.

    Epic is a romantic anthology series set in the fairytale universe of Disney. Taking place in a Disney-like Enchanted Forest, it will center on a whole new set of new heroes, villains, princes, princesses and all manner of magical beings. While it will pay homage to the classic signposts we’re all familiar with from the stories we grew up with, Epic will endeavor to create a whole new batch of characters as it explores love in all its forms.

    Kitsis and Horowitz took a similar approach with Once Upon a Time, which blended classic Disney fairytale creations and new characters. The series was a hit for ABC, which aired for seven seasons.

    Kitsis and Horowitz conceived Epic with Hales, their protégé on both Once Upon A Time and Amazing Stories. Hales is writing, with Kitsis and Horowitz supervising and helping shepherd the project through the development process through Kitsis & Horowitz Prods. The trio executive produce. ABC Signature Studios, part of Disney TV Studios, is the studio.

    Lost alums Kitsis and Horowitz serve as executive producers and showrunners on Apple’s upcoming Amazon Stories anthology series revival.

    Hales joined Once Upon a Time in season 5 as a writer, working closely with Kitsis and Horowitz. She previously wrote for the Hulu miniseries 11.22.63.

    EDIT: According to TVLine, it doesn't take place at the OUAT universe

    Source: https://deadline.com/2019/12/disney-fairytale-universe-romantic-anthology-epic-enchanted-forest-once-upon-a-time-trio-eddy-kitsis-adam-horowitz-1202810526 https://tvline.com/2019/12/16/disney-fairytale-universe-anthology-series-once-upon-a-time-creators/


    So, I'd like to hear your opinions on it. While I don't want to get my hopes up, I can't help but feel like this is a spin-off/sister series to OUAT.

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    • It would be nice, as I assume a spin-off/sister series to Once Upon a Time would mean we could incorporate the series with the Wiki — similar to how the Arrow Wikia has recently included Black Lightning. But I guess we'll have to wait and see because something tells me we're both getting our hopes up. xD

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    • KyleBraxton wrote:
      It would be nice, as I assume a spin-off/sister series to Once Upon a Time would mean we could incorporate the series with the Wiki — similar to how the Arrow Wikia has recently included Black Lightning. But I guess we'll have to wait and see because something tells me we're both getting our hopes up. xD

      Yeah, we could, just like we did with Once Upon a Time in Wonderland.

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    • I can’t believe this, even though it’s not a spin-off this seems crazy.

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    • Honestly, I'm happy to see that Once Upon A Time isn't the only Disney inspired idea to become a full length series. (even if it's in the developments stages)

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    • It's essentialy OUAT 2.0. I'm looking forward to this, but I was more excited about the Book fo Enchantments project, which got cancelled for being too dark (backstory for all Disney villains, and all interconnected). This project seems unneccessary, as it seems to have the same showrunners. I will definitely be checking it out, but since this isn't OUAT, what else can they bring to the table that we haven't seen?

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    • Book of Enchantments was going to be amazing

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    • Since TVLine specified that it will only feature original characters, that does sound more intriguing. It will be cool to see how an ordinary citizen of Arendelle was affected by Elsa's ice curse, or how a regular mermaid became trapped in Ursula's garden, etc. One of the main issues I had with OUAT was that the worlds often felt small, since everyone seemed to know each other. It would've been cooler with more original characters, so I like this spin on it, but I still hope we see actual Disney characters, even if they're not in starring roles, otherwise, what would be the point of putting it in the Disney universe.

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    • Overall, it depends.

      Once’s variation of the characters were usually half-Disney/half original. Likewise with the worlds.

      I think things like Descendants, in which the characters are meant to be the Disney characters (more or less) has the benefit of drawing more classic fans, but also the opposite.

      To last long term (or rather on its own), it should be similar to Once’s original concept. However, no one can say that a direct Disney tie in wouldn’t bolster numbers.

      Personally, I don’t really like anthology series (or that I just don’t often watch them). Hopefully they are tied together per season and have shared characters. I hate to get invested in a story and then dart off in a completely different direction.

      I can’t go from “Dopey joining in a Dwarven rebellion while dealing with his feelings towards Snow White” to “Jack dealing with his abusive mother, Queen of Hearts, and his star-crossed love with the Chesire Cat.”

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    • That's true. The anthology aspect of this series is pretty intersting but also could get confusing as time goes on.

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    • It's interesting. As usual I'll keep zero expectations.

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    • It sounds more like a mixed of both the Once Universe, and the Walt Disney animation universe.

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    • Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Book of Enchantments was going to be amazing

      Heh, I don't know. The books it was based on were pretty bad

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    • Lola987 wrote: One of the main issues I had with OUAT was that the worlds often felt small, since everyone seemed to know each other.

      The worlds weren't small, (though I get what you mean) the show focused on a small, interrelated part.

      Lola987 wrote: It would've been cooler with more original characters, so I like this spin on it, but I still hope we see actual Disney characters, even if they're not in starring roles, otherwise, what would be the point of putting it in the Disney universe.

      A lot od Disney's characters are based on fairytales, so I'm sure we'll see them, and the anthology platform could be used in a good way to make a big universe :D

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    • Lola987 wrote:
      One of the main issues I had with OUAT was that the worlds often felt small, since everyone seemed to know each other.

      True that. I can get over some minor coincidences to move the plot forward but by season 4 it seemed that every single storyline had to be intertwined with the others so that the writers could cram as much stuff as possible in few episodes.

      Everyone is either related or had crossed their paths with the current new character somehow.

      Not to mention that, to this day, I still don't get how big Storybrooke is supposed to be. It's so small that our protagonists always stumble upon the same characters and always visit the same places, yet it's so big that it (supposedly) inhabits every single person from the Enchanted Forest.

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    • It's a TV show, not a documentary. XD

      ETA, hit enter too soon: We see the same characters a lot because it's a TV show. They don't have unlimited actors or an unlimited budget. The major characters all are connected because it's a TV show. We have to suspend disbelief a little bit on certain things, and that's one. It's a large universe, but we're not going to see all of it in a TV show setup.

      An anthology style gives a lot more room to see more of a large universe.

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    • More like, it's all connected because the writers tried to cram as much stuff as possible in the show when they had no reason to, they were to lazy to come up with better explanations and making everyone related was a lazy and easy way to make plot twists.

      "How can we make a new plot twist that is totally unexpected?"
      "Let's introduce a new character and make them Belle's cousin, Hook's schoolmate, Emma's former foster parent, Regina's childhood friend, someone Rumple tricked in the EF and Neal's favourite newsagent. No one is gonna foresee all those things and it'll give the villain a reason to hate them all so that we can make his motivations convincing."

      Budget has nothing to do with that.

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    • Walecs wrote:
      More like, it's all connected because the writers tried to cram as much stuff as possible in the show when they had no reason to, they were to lazy to come up with better explanations and making everyone related was a lazy and easy way to make plot twists.

      I agree with you partially. Some of their explanations lean more on convenience and poor explanations.

      However, you are discounting how a narative is structured and suspension of disbelief. Random Character A isn't going to be a constant focal point of the show/movie/book/medium if they are completely to the story.

      Once did have characters that did and did not cross paths with the core group in the way distant past. I'm going to use Belle in the below example.

      Crossing pasts: Belle interacted with Anna in the past. This does not make the world smaller, but Belle's experience in the world bigger and the world more united. This was a simple way to loop in Belle with the Frozen arc without her interacting much with the Frozen cast. This crafted a nicely knitted story. I can see it being done differently and how much is too much but "it's a wash" at worst.

      Not crossing pasts: Belle runs into Merida and has a neat little side story that later sets up a side-story. Perfectly fine. Could they always do that? No. If you take Merida in the larger scheme of things, she could have been written out of the story easily as she did very little. You could argue from the other side that Merida's inclusion was a waste due to the minor connections she had to the story.

      All in all, it's a tough balance. It's rather subjective and there's a flurry of factors that go into stories acorss different media.

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    • You make some pretty good points there, Eskaver. I believe that, at the end of the day, Once's main problem was trying to fit as many characters and storylines as possible. I can't really blame the writers for that because when Disney lets you use their wonderful characters the prospect of using as many as possible is very tempting (even more so when you think about all the classical literary characters that you can include into the series).

      This is why I think the anthology format will benefit Adam and Eddy's new show (and why I believe they should have ended OUAT before it jumped the shark around season 3 and make more spin offs).

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