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  • I know a huge part of this fan base is also interested in game of thrones so I wanted to talk about both shows

    This is a hypothetical question that I’ve been wondering to myself for about a week now and I just really want to find the answer to. So I kept thinking how easy it was for Aegon I to conquer all of Westeros with his dragons so I asked myself. How easy would it be for Rumple or Regina to conquer all of Westeros so I devised the following scenario

    The Evil Queen stumbles upon a mysterious continent called Westeros with her army and trusted advisor and oldest fried: The Dark One. They land in a barren land called Dorne. It’s covered in deserts and they soon see a castle. Annoyed, The Queen poofs inside the castle and kills Doran Martell and takes over Sunspear :p. How does she take on the rest of Westeros ?

    Rules: Rumple can only be utilized if she’s in a desperate situation (she’s down to 1,000 knights) but he can help her plan. Defensive shields can only be utilized against dragons and wildfire and only for for 20 seconds with a 10 second break between each shield.

    On the side of GOT we have (all characters are at their most powerful) - Daenerys Targaryen: 3 fully grown dragons, 100,000 Dothraki, 8,000 unsullied and 2,000 second sons. LOCATION: Dragonstone

    - Tywin, Tyrion and Jaime Lannister: 60,000 Lannister soldiers, the endless supply of Lannister gold, 5,000 gold cloaks and 8,000 barrels of wildfire. LOCATION: Casterly Rock

    - Cersei Lannister and Euron Greyjoy: 25 elephants, 1,000 scorpions, 20,000 golden company, 8,000 wildfire catapults, 1,000 ships and 20,000 Lannister soldiers. LOCATION: Red Keep

    - Robert, Stannis and Renly Baratheon: 115,000 Robert’s Rebellion soldiers, 100,000 Baratheon/Tyrell knights and 25,000 mounted kni ghts from Stannis. LOCATION: Storm’s End

    - Olenna and Margaery Tyrell: 70,000 Reach knights, near limitless supply of crops and food and around 100 ships from the Redwyne fleet. LOCATION: Highgarden

    - Jon Arryn: 45,000 knights of the vale, 300 mountain clan warriors LOCATION: The Eyrie

    - Hoster Tully: 45,000 soldiers and all of House Frey. LOCATION: Riverrun

    - Ned Stark: 6 direwolves lol and around 50,000 men. LOCATION: Winterfell

    On the OUAT side we have:

    - The Evil Queen: Powerful magical abilities and (let’s say) 100,000 black knights

    - Rumpletiltskin: Even more powerful magical abilities, immortal bar one weapon.

    Please feel free to correct me on any numbers. The question is how quickly to you reckon Team OUAT take over Westeros or can they take over Westeros. Things to take into account are locations, military strength and territory harshness. To give GOT a better chance all Houses have allied together to defend against the common enemy.

    Have fun!!!!

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    • Bonus Round: Regina and Rumple vs The Night King

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    • I think Regina should border Westeros until she reaches The Arbor. She could set their fleet on fire and the Redwyne army is never said to be powerful. With the remaining ships, I think conquering Starfall, Ghost Hill and the rest of Dorne. This could be very difficult because, well, Dorne's amazing and actually were the only ones who weren't defeated by Aegon I, so Regina might have it hard here, probably sacrificing the Redwyne ship and many of her soldiers. 

      Afterwards, Regina should march North to The Reach. She should shapeshift into a girl from House Hightower. That way she could open the gates, steal the Glass Candles (God knows what for) and hopefully learns more magic in the Citatel. Regina has by now lost 15000 soldiers. By now, House Tyrell has been weakened after losing the Redwynes and the Hightowers. Regina's army is the one with the most food now. A siege in Highgarden could work. Here she has low casualties because the Tyrells would keep their soldiers inside the castle. Let's say she looses 2000 and sieges Highgarden until they give up. That's when the Tullys decide to face Regina. 

      The Tullys are the easiest. Regina faces them with 50000 soldiers, while the others are sent to the Riverlands to destroy Riverrun, The Twins, Harrenhal and more. After raiding those castles, they return and join Regina's side.

      Part 2 tomorrow :p

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    • Truest Believer wrote: I think Regina should border Westeros until she reaches The Arbor. She could set their fleet on fire and the Redwyne army is never said to be powerful. With the remaining ships, I think conquering Starfall, Ghost Hill and the rest of Dorne. This could be very difficult because, well, Dorne's amazing and actually were the only ones who weren't defeated by Aegon I, so Regina might have it hard here, probably sacrificing the Redwyne ship and many of her soldiers. 

      Afterwards, Regina should march North to The Reach. She should shapeshift into a girl from House Hightower. That way she could open the gates, steal the Glass Candles (God knows what for) and hopefully learns more magic in the Citatel. Regina has by now lost 15000 soldiers. By now, House Tyrell has been weakened after losing the Redwynes and the Hightowers. Regina's army is the one with the most food now. A siege in Highgarden could work. Here she has low casualties because the Tyrells would keep their soldiers inside the castle. Let's say she looses 2000 and sieges Highgarden until they give up. That's when the Tullys decide to face Regina. 

      The Tullys are the easiest. Regina faces them with 50000 soldiers, while the others are sent to the Riverlands to destroy Riverrun, The Twins, Harrenhal and more. After raiding those castles, they return and join Regina's side.

      Part 2 tomorrow :p

      Agree with most of this. So let’s say by now she’s conquered two of the seven kingdoms — the reach and the Riverlands. By now she should probably be residing in highgarden (most crops and largest castle). Although she’s killed Doran Martell I don’t think she’s conquered Dorne so I’m gonna leave that out of the equation (if she’s in highgarden she’s need to trek her army all the way back to du spear which is a long long way away, I feel like rumple would advise against such a waste of Black Knights. I really like your rendition though. How does she take the Lannisters, Targaryens, starks, Greyjoys and Arryns though ?

      P.s. sorry for taking so long to reply I haven’t really been that active on the fandom as of late

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    • I think Regina should send a large garrison to the Iron Islands from the Riverlands. The ironmen aren't that strong on land, so I guess once the Black Knights land, she's got it easy. And she'd get the Iron Fleet. That'd be useful to attack Lannisport and weaken the Lannisters. However, they got the wildfire. I think Regina would be defeated here, but not entirely. Lannisport was weakened. After she does that, Regina should sack all the other forts from the Westerlands until the Lannisters have no choice but to face them on field.

      After sacking Lannisport, they'd have enough gold to hire a Faceless Man, right? But not enough for Daenerys, so Regina has Jon Arryn killed. The Eyrie is probably the safest place in Westeros, and it'd be hard to take it. After Jon Arryn dies, the Vale surrenders. Regina sets up a base in the Three Sisters where she begins her plan to take White Harbour and Moat Cailin. 

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    • Truest Believer wrote: I think Regina should send a large garrison to the Iron Islands from the Riverlands. The ironmen aren't that strong on land, so I guess once the Black Knights land, she's got it easy. And she'd get the Iron Fleet. That'd be useful to attack Lannisport and weaken the Lannisters. However, they got the wildfire. I think Regina would be defeated here, but not entirely. Lannisport was weakened. After she does that, Regina should sack all the other forts from the Westerlands until the Lannisters have no choice but to face them on field.

      After sacking Lannisport, they'd have enough gold to hire a Faceless Man, right? But not enough for Daenerys, so Regina has Jon Arryn killed. The Eyrie is probably the safest place in Westeros, and it'd be hard to take it. After Jon Arryn dies, the Vale surrenders. Regina sets up a base in the Three Sisters where she begins her plan to take White Harbour and Moat Cailin. 

      Hmmmmm, interesting. I do agree that Regina doesn’t have the fire power to take on the Lannister’s that’s why I would think she’d go for them last. I think she’s find it difficult to get to the iron islands, however she can go through the reach as that is essentially her territory. So now she’s got the Reach, iron islands (and iron fleet), the vale of Arryn and the Riverlands. I think we should leave casterly Rock for now as the castle is literally impregnable (it’s built into the cliff side making most attacks to it practically useless) and if Tywin gets word of her coming him and Tyrion will most definitely set up a wildfire trap which she will likely not be able to stop despite her magic. That puts her in a strong position. After taking white Barbour and moat Caitlin the next step is to go north, I think, or straight for the capital, although I don’t know how she’ll deal with Cersei and Euron (might be very difficult).

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    • She doesn't have the Vale yet, but it was heavily weakened with Jon Arryn's death. However, she got the Three Sisters and she can take some castles until the Eyrie surrenders (I think the Eyrie is as impregnable as Casterly Rock).

      By this point, she must have like 50,000 Black Knights + armies from The Reach + some of the Vale + Dorne. 

      So let's say she has 75,000 overall + a lot of supplies (which makes them stronger and healthier) + a few ships from the Iron Fleet (most were destroyed in the sack of Lannisport) + some things from The Citatel (like the Glass Candles). 

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    • Truest Believer wrote:
      She doesn't have the Vale yet, but it was heavily weakened with Jon Arryn's death. However, she got the Three Sisters and she can take some castles until the Eyrie surrenders (I think the Eyrie is as impregnable as Casterly Rock).

      By this point, she must have like 50,000 Black Knights + armies from The Reach + some of the Vale + Dorne. 

      So let's say she has 75,000 overall + a lot of supplies (which makes them stronger and healthier) + a few ships from the Iron Fleet (most were destroyed in the sack of Lannisport) + some things from The Citatel (like the Glass Candles). 

      So what we have left 

      Regina with around 50,000 black knights and close to twenty five thousand Westerosi soldiers, 

      she has conquered most of the reach, sacked lannisport, killed Jon Arryn (forcing the vale into a precarious state due to Lysa Arryn now being in power), conquered a bit of the vale, taken the western most bit of Dorne and the iron islands.

      there is a slight issue however, the land she occupies right now is very difficult to defend. She has the Lannisters, the Baratheon of Kings landing (Cersei), and the other kingdoms attacking her. That's not even mantioning Daenerys yet. How do you think she'll cope with all the incoming fire power. Maybe she should focus on the stormlands and dorne ? I feel like the south should be dealt with as quick as possible so it's doesn't distract later on. 


      let me know what you think though 

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