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  • Since this is going on in multiple comments, here's a thread to discuss it. Do you think Fiona, Henry Mills, and Emma Swan should receive cursed counterparts for their time during the fourth curse and the fifth curse (Henry only)?

    I say yes. Fiona is not different than Regina. Literally no different. And in the fifth curse, Henry definitely deserves one. Emma is arguable (and fourth curse Henry) though.

    EDIT: Since it was adressed in the comments, does anyone think the people who were recursed should get one? And should Gideon? I vote no on the first one, but I’ll wait for opinions on Gideon.

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    • I'd have to disagree with one for Fiona and Emma, but I always thought Henry should have one for his time in Seattle.

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    • Henry- Yes

      Fiona- Yes. This one shouldn't even be up to debate. She takes the same role as Regina.

      Emma- Not sure honestly. Feel free to convince me one way.

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    • As I’ve said in the Henry comments I support Henry, my knee-jerk reaction was no to Fiona and Emma but actually thought a bit later made me realize that Fiona needs one. I think making a section in the gallery for Emma’s almost two episode curse is just annoying, it makes the default image a worse one (because we all know that whatever the cursed Emma’s infobox is it will be worse than the current one) and the picture would be exactly like the current one except she’s not happy.

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    • Also the current votes on the Henry thread that haven’t responded here have Cado disagreeing, Mathewdoyle wanting Child and Adult tabs for Henry only and CDA supporting splitting Henry with none of these people saying anything about Fiona or Emma

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    • I wrote my reasons for Henry and Emma on Henry Mills’s comments, so I’m not going to repeat myself on here.

      But for Fiona... I’m not sure actually. But I think I’m more on the side for giving Fiona a dual infobox due to her completing at least one of the three reasons:

      1- Changing outfits (yes)

      2- Adapting the LWM aspects (yes)

      3- Changing of name (no)

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    • I think the questions for splitting are simple 1. Is this a different character? (personality or vastly different/new memories)? 2. Is there a major costume change?

      Now anyone hit by the first and fifth curse gets both of these which is why they (except Henry) are all split. Jefferson, Ivy, Victoria, Regina, and Eloise all have all of their fake memories which is why they have been split, Belle's costume has significantly changed and so has Henry and Fiona fills the Regina loophole while Emma has some new memories and no costume change therefore she should have no split infobox.

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    • "Is this a different character?" is a very vague reason. Everyone can read it differently. It's more of subject I mean.

      What I wrote there are NOT my own perspective, but based on our own wiki work. Try it, and you will see that it fits on  every single character we dualled on this wiki.

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    • I can see why Emma shouldn't get one for the curse. I change my vote from not sure to disagree. I still agree with giving Fiona and Henry one.

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    • I think Fiona has a consensus. Any other thoughts on Emma or Henry?

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    • Fiona and Emma both had false memories implanted from Fiona's curse, and to me that's enough to warrent the split box, I think. Henry obviously needs one for his time in Seattle from Drizella/Gothel's curse.

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    • I don’t support Emma because that picture is going to be very similar to her current one, she’ll look pretty much the same.

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    • I’m sure we need to wait on more people but it seems Fiona and S7 Henry are pretty much agreed on. Emma still seems undecided.

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    • Fiona is mostly decided 5-1, Henry is 5-2 and Emma is 2-4.

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    • Agree on Fiona and Henry, disagree on Emma.

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    • Btw guys: Be specific about which Henry. We're discussing both the Final Battle curse Henry and the Hyperion Heights/Coven curse Henry. Although I think I disagree on Final Battle Henry only because his situation is similar to in Season 1. Although, to be fair, Regina legally adopted him, while he was cursed as Fiona's son so idk. S7 Henry definitely needs one. He was given fake memories.

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    • I agree with them all getting a cursed counterpart but, about the fourth curse, shouldn't other characters get one too? Like, Belle getting a whole new cursed counterpart different from Lacey, and Gideon and Archie (even tho he's the same as with the first curse)  or are they too minor?

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    • Archie and the rest of the Storybrooke regulars definetely don’t need them, they were Storybrooke characters turned into themselves. Belle falls under she looks exactly the same, and seems to still be Belle French (though that curse was really vague), I’m pretty sure she’s wearing a shirt she wore when she woke from the sleeping curse. I could see Gideon but I think it’d look similar enough, instead of a black coat he’s wearing a black suit.

      The votes are at 7-1; 7-2 (for HH); and 3-5 with new Proposals for Belle and Gideon. There is a very clear consensus on Fiona and HH Henry so I’ll be adding the NoImage to their pages as original/cursed counterparts, splitting Fiona’s gallery and suggesting images for them.

      Now because the Fourth curse Henry wasn’t really brought up In going to put what I believe the votes are for it, Claire supports it I believe that the five who voted against Emma (Me, Nick, Cado, Kyle, BNS) are against it and RCO thinks he disagrees, unsure on CDA though Henry doesn’t seem to meet his requirements.

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    • RedCoatOfficial wrote: Btw guys: Be specific about which Henry. We're discussing both the Final Battle curse Henry and the Hyperion Heights/Coven curse Henry. Although I think I disagree on Final Battle Henry only because his situation is similar to in Season 1. Although, to be fair, Regina legally adopted him, while he was cursed as Fiona's son so idk. S7 Henry definitely needs one. He was given fake memories.

      I feel the same way about Final Battle Henry I do about Emma. They are the same, disagree.

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    • Technically Henry would have one for Fiona's curse, but we don't want like 100 Henry tabs, so I'm fine with just non-cursed adult Henry and HH cursed adult Henry.

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    • I don’t think that he was really cursed, he didn’t get any new memories and he looked no different, the curse hit him less than it did Arthur in S5.

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    • As for the other Storybrooke's under the fourth curse, idk because it’s moreso like they were re-cursed. They didn’t gain new identities but just got their old ones with altered memories involving Emma being locked away and Fiona being Regina. I'd say we can edit it all into their original cursed counterparts. Same with the ones in the EF. They didn’t gain new identities, they were cursed back into their old ones from the EF.

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    • Agree with all

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    • So apparently we've reached consensus on Fiona. Now we need to discuss Emma and Henry from Fiona's curse and Henry from the Coven's curse. And anything else anyone wants to mention.

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    • There was consensus on HH Henry, I added it, there is a slim majority against Emma (5-4), Fiona’s Henry has a strong majority against (8-2) and I’m not sure how many people are bothering to vote for/against Gideon but of the people I’m sure on is 1–1.

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    • I also agree on Gideon.

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    • Gideon is different. He may have cursed, but he was reverted back to a baby, and lived a full life without even knowing or technically experiencing them.

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    • I think they mean when Gideon was living in Gold's shop under the curse. I forgot about that.

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    • I guess I agree with Gideon too. Becoming a baby doesn't really mean much. It doesn't erase all of your past life or something.

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    • Nick Branson wrote:
      I guess I agree with Gideon too. Becoming a baby doesn't really mean much. It doesn't erase all of your past life or something.

      What is logic behind there anyway? He was turned into his baby self and lived his entire life again. He doesn't even remember his past life. He is not even adapted to LWM aspects now. 

      More worse, it will be SB/SB character. And his original pic will be a SB character, but his cursed pic will be a fairy-tale-character (based on his outfits).

      Appearently, there are really some misunderstandings about the dual infoboxes. We do not do that because they are cursed. We do that mostly when they change outfits. The "curse" is simply a filter. We do that to give the readers a better and more logical look. But with this way, we can't.

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    • Ok my whole assumption of what the conversation seems to be wrong or everything else is wrong, this is over Gold’s Shop Gideon; also the fourth curse seems to have reverted everyone back when it ended, we only have Snowing and Zelena but clearly they became MM, David and cursed!Zelena.

      We actually do have dual infoboxes because of curses, that’s why we don’t look like the French wiki. We don’t have tabs if the curse didn’t change their clothes, because then what’s the point?

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