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  • Sorry if there was already a topic like that.

    Now that season seven and the whole show has ended, don't you think more starring characters from seasons 1-6 should be featured on the main page, instead of being listed under guest starring?

    It made sense to feature only the current starring cast members during the season, but now the series is over, it seems a little weird to have Victoria or Sabine there, but not Snow or Charming.

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    • I agree that the staring should be reworked to include all staring cast members

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    • I was just about to make a thread about this.

      With the show being over now, it would make much more sense to re-work that section of the mainpage to include all of the main characters. It's especially odd to list characters like Snow, Emma, David, and Belle under "guest starring" when they're "starring" for the vast majority, especially in favor of far less notable characters like Jacinda, Victoria, Lucy, and Sabine.

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    • Agree

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    • All characters who were billed under starring at some point during Once should be included?

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    • All characters are not necessary. We don't need to put Archie or Graham in that Starring section. Same for Ruby. They were present in the first seasons, not the last ones.

      I'd say we only put S6 + S7 starring cast members in that section. That should cover the most important characters.

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    • Lady Junky wrote: All characters are not necessary. We don't need to put Archie or Graham in that Starring section. Same for Ruby. They were present in the first seasons, not the last ones.

      I'd say we only put S6 + S7 starring cast members in that section. That should cover the most important characters.

      I agree with this, actually. This would cover Snow, Emma, David, Belle, OG Hook, and Zelena, which is all of the characters who were main in more than one season and who everyone is probably most concerned with.

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    • I don't see why it can't be tabs like the guest stars? It feels misleading to list Archie as a guest star for Season 1. I definitely think we should list even the one-time regulars like Graham, Ruby, etc. as regulars for their respective seasons.

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    • We should either do all starring cast or none, now that the show is over. The only other thing is to only do starring cast that was starring in all seven seasons, but that is only Bobby and Lana (if we are going by characters Henry was also starring in all 7 seasons, between Jared and Andrew). I really think we could do all starring cast though, it is only like 20 people.

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    • I agree with listing every former regular to the main page, including Archie, Graham and Ruby. But we also should add them to season where they appeared as guest stars.

      So, Archie will appear in the former starring section. But he also will appear in tbe Season 2/3/4/6/7’s guest starring section.

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    • CadoDoan wrote: I agree with listing every former regular to the main page, including Archie, Graham and Ruby. But we also should add them to season where they appeared as guest stars.

      So, Archie will appear in the former starring section. But he also will appear in tbe Season 2/3/4/6/7’s guest starring section.

      Right, of course.

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    • CadoDoan wrote: I agree with listing every former regular to the main page, including Archie, Graham and Ruby. But we also should add them to season where they appeared as guest stars.

      So, Archie will appear in the former starring section. But he also will appear in tbe Season 2/3/4/6/7’s guest starring section.

      No, that's not the point of the presentation.

      The characters added in the starring section are not listed in the guest section. Otherwise, there is absolutely zero point to list them in the starring section.

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    • CadoDoan wrote:
      I agree with listing every former regular to the main page, including Archie, Graham and Ruby. But we also should add them to season where they appeared as guest stars.

      So, Archie will appear in the former starring section. But he also will appear in tbe Season 2/3/4/6/7’s guest starring section.

      I don't think it is nessisary to include them in guest starring. If someone wants to see when the character was starring and when they were guest starring, they can go to the characters page. Alternativly, we can just get rid of the starring section all together, and just add all starring cast to whichever seasons they appeared in.

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    • I would say show all the starring members of the cast. I don't think it matters if some of them were there only for one season, the important thing is, at one point they were among main characters.

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    • I say treating the starring exactly like guest starring, we have tabs for the guest stars why not stars?

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    • Taranee94 wrote:
      I would say show all the starring members of the cast. I don't think it matters if some of them were there only for one season, the important thing is, at one point they were among main characters.

      Totally agree.

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    • Black Necked Swan wrote:

      Taranee94 wrote:
      I would say show all the starring members of the cast. I don't think it matters if some of them were there only for one season, the important thing is, at one point they were among main characters.

      Totally agree.

      I think it would look better to treat the main cast like guest cast, if he show the difference for guest stars we should for stars, but I would rather have all of them together than not include all of them.

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    • Schroeswald wrote:
      I say treating the starring exactly like guest starring, we have tabs for the guest stars why not stars?

      I think this is a good idea.

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    • Calibaz wrote:

      Schroeswald wrote:
      I say treating the starring exactly like guest starring, we have tabs for the guest stars why not stars?

      I think this is a good idea.

      The one thing is where August and Huntsman should go since they appeared outside of starring, I’d say put them on starring but guest starring for when they appear as guest starring.

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    • Schroeswald wrote:

      Calibaz wrote:

      Schroeswald wrote:
      I say treating the starring exactly like guest starring, we have tabs for the guest stars why not stars?
      I think this is a good idea.
      The one thing is where August and Huntsman should go since they appeared outside of starring, I’d say put them on starring but guest starring for when they appear as guest starring.

      Why not just have them in S1 starring tab and leave them in the guest starring for the tabs of the other seasons they appeared in?

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    • Calibaz wrote:

      Schroeswald wrote:

      Calibaz wrote:

      Schroeswald wrote:
      I say treating the starring exactly like guest starring, we have tabs for the guest stars why not stars?
      I think this is a good idea.
      The one thing is where August and Huntsman should go since they appeared outside of starring, I’d say put them on starring but guest starring for when they appear as guest starring.

      Why not just have them in S1 starring tab and leave them in the guest starring for the tabs of the other seasons they appeared in?

      They appear as guest/special guest stars in Season One. That’s the problem

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    • Schroeswald wrote:

      Calibaz wrote:


      Schroeswald wrote:

      Calibaz wrote:


      Schroeswald wrote:
      I say treating the starring exactly like guest starring, we have tabs for the guest stars why not stars?
      I think this is a good idea.
      The one thing is where August and Huntsman should go since they appeared outside of starring, I’d say put them on starring but guest starring for when they appear as guest starring.
      Why not just have them in S1 starring tab and leave them in the guest starring for the tabs of the other seasons they appeared in?
      They appear as guest/special guest stars in Season One. That’s the problem

      Then just put them in guest stars in Season 1?

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    • Calibaz wrote:

      Schroeswald wrote:

      Calibaz wrote:


      Schroeswald wrote:

      Calibaz wrote:


      Schroeswald wrote:
      I say treating the starring exactly like guest starring, we have tabs for the guest stars why not stars?
      I think this is a good idea.
      The one thing is where August and Huntsman should go since they appeared outside of starring, I’d say put them on starring but guest starring for when they appear as guest starring.
      Why not just have them in S1 starring tab and leave them in the guest starring for the tabs of the other seasons they appeared in?
      They appear as guest/special guest stars in Season One. That’s the problem

      Then just put them in guest stars in Season 1?

      They appear as stars and guest stars that’s the problem, it’s only the Huntsman and August who did it, Tremaine didn’t appear after 711 and no one else was a part-season regular.

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    • Schroeswald wrote:

      Calibaz wrote:

      Schroeswald wrote:

      Calibaz wrote:


      Schroeswald wrote:

      Calibaz wrote:


      Schroeswald wrote:
      I say treating the starring exactly like guest starring, we have tabs for the guest stars why not stars?
      I think this is a good idea.
      The one thing is where August and Huntsman should go since they appeared outside of starring, I’d say put them on starring but guest starring for when they appear as guest starring.
      Why not just have them in S1 starring tab and leave them in the guest starring for the tabs of the other seasons they appeared in?
      They appear as guest/special guest stars in Season One. That’s the problem

      Then just put them in guest stars in Season 1?

      They appear as stars and guest stars that’s the problem, it’s only the Huntsman and August who did it, Tremaine didn’t appear after 711 and no one else was a part-season regular.

      Whatever their highest billing was in the season should be the default. So actors who were promoted from co-starring to guest starring (i.e., Pinocchio) should still appear in guest starring, and actors who were promoted from guest starring to starring, or demoted from starring to guest starring, should be listed as starring.

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    • I personally think the best and  the most easy idea would be to just continue with how it was so far, so if we include all the starring members of the show under starring, let's remove them from the guest starring. The same way we have Emma/Snow as guest starring in season 1 now, but Regina as starring. I would also do the same with Graham and August. As I said in my previous post, in my opinion it doesn't matter if Graham was gone after 1x7, the thing is for these seven episodes he was starring.

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    • Taranee94 wrote: I personally think the best and  the most easy idea would be to just continue with how it was so far, so if we include all the starring members of the show under starring, let's remove them from the guest starring. The same way we have Emma/Snow as guest starring in season 1 now, but Regina as starring. I would also do the same with Graham and August. As I said in my previous post, in my opinion it doesn't matter if Graham was gone after 1x7, the thing is for these seven episodes he was starring.

      The problem is its misleading to have Archie in the main cast with his nine appearances when he appeared 20-something times afterwards and 10 in S6, I'll go with DNK on crediting but we should use tabs to separate the seasonal stars.

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    • Maybe it'd be better if you combine DNK's idea on crediting and Schroeswald's on using tabs to separate seasonal stars?

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    • I agree with that anyway, so my tally of votes are:
      Everyone, no seperations for starring: Taranee94(?), CDA (?), Blank Necked Swan, Mattestar7 and CadoDoan

      6+7 regulars: Lady Junky and DeviousPeep

      Everyone with seasonal Tabs: Calibaz, DatNuttyKid and me

      If I got anyones votes wrong correct me.

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    • I also agree with tabs for starring.

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    • I like the idea for tabs for the starring. That way we will see who was starring in what season. It will also show that Roni is a Season 7 character only, etc. Agree with Dat that highest billing is where they go. So Huntsman/Graham is starring in 1, etc.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      I like the idea for tabs for the starring. That way we will see who was starring in what season. It will also show that Roni is a Season 7 character only, etc. Agree with Dat that highest billing is where they go. So Huntsman/Graham is starring in 1, etc.

      Hadn't thought about it before, but now I agree.

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    • So this makes it 2-2-6 now.

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    • So is there an agreement on how to change the main or...?

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    • I believe there is but an admin (or content mod) has to do it because only they can edit templates.

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    • Can this be implemented?

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    • Is this ever gonna happen?

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    • DeviousPeep wrote:
      Is this ever gonna happen?

      I think the former admin Killian did the stuff on the main page, so we probably have to find someone to do it first.

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    • Schroeswald wrote: I believe there is but an admin (or content mod) has to do it because only they can edit templates.

      I'm afraid content mods can't do it either (I've just tried that). It appears that it is limited to admins only. So we need admin to do it.

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    • I've made a preliminary update where all the starring cast members, minus Archie, Ruby, Graham and August, are included on "starring cast". I'm going to make an attempt at making tabs for starring cast members for the different seasons, like you agreed on; I'll let you know the results :-)

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    • Phew! There; it is done... [off for a well-deserved hibernation; see you in a 1000 years...]

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    • I mean you also don't have Neal there, but at least this is better than placing Emma, Snow, David, Zelena, Belle and Robin (who, with Henry, Hook, Rumple and Regina are my OTC [One True Cast]) as guest stars.

      One thing that makes me a bit uncomfortable is the merge of the incarnation portals, I don't really like defaulting them to OG counterpart, especially since a good chunk of the images suck (especially Belle), and because us going back over the merging/naming to find a way to use better and more accurate images is going to be impossible even if it the problem was worth considering it, I'd rather have the different counterpart images/portals to avoid having to default to anything, because original counterpart default is only used for names because it is only that way in coding and it is easy and simple.

      EDIT: Started writing this before Lily finished so only bottom paragraph still applies

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    • [awakening from my hibernation --Who dares disturb my deep slumber???] ;-)

      Hmm. I thought defaulting to the original counterparts was only natural after the merge, but maybe it's not...?

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    • Schroeswald wrote: I mean you also don't have Neal there, but at least this is better than placing Emma, Snow, David, Zelena, Belle and Robin (who, with Henry, Hook, Rumple and Regina are my OTC [One True Cast]) as guest stars.

      Aaaaaargh, I did indeed leave Neal out!!! The horror.... Don't worry, it's been fixed now. ;-)

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    • Nightlily wrote: [awakening from my hibernation --Who dares disturb my deep slumber???] ;-)

      Hmm. I thought defaulting to the original counterparts was only natural after the merge, but maybe it's not...?

      For most pictures it’s fine, but it’s particularly weird for the redeemed people and Archie, cause we only get to see them when they look deliciously evil or are a Cricket (and of course the ones with sub-par images, most egregiously Belle who is almost completely shadowed). If it wasn’t for Roni and Weaver I’d suggest changing based on hover, but they make it impossible. In addition the main character tabs look a bit more full with the counterparts, which is a little extra bonus.

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    • I love the new format of the tabs. I was wondering if we could consider putting Graham on S1 though, since all the characters aren't cluttered up now (and he had more significance than Will who is on there). Also woud it be posible to change the images of the characters faces so that they reflect what season they're in (sorry, this is asking for much, but just wondering what everyone else's thought are)

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    • Graham was supposed to be there, but was left out by an oversight. I'll fix it when I have access to a computer (I'm out; typing on my phone right now).

      As for images: Yeah, I think that can be done :-) Just let me take care of it little by little; it's going to take a little time.

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    • Coolio. Thanks for that.

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    • Lily, can you put the Wonderland characters on credit order?

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    • Done.

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    • Thanks. Also, Jiminy is listed on both Starring section and Guest Starring section on Season 1

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    • Matheus1234zx wrote: Thanks. Also, Jiminy is listed on both Starring section and Guest Starring section on Season 1

      It's been taken care of :-)

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    • Good job Lily, well done! It looks great.

      By the way, I’ve just seen Snow White in the guess section of S2, which is probably a mistake.

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    • Lola987 wrote: Also woud it be posible to change the images of the characters faces so that they reflect what season they're in (sorry, this is asking for much, but just wondering what everyone else's thought are)

      I think it’s a great idea.

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    • So do I, it would also likely fix (most) of my problems with not having portals for each iteration of the character, because defaulting to original counterpart should be impossible when based on how they look that season.

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    • CadoDoan wrote: Good job Lily, well done! It looks great.

      By the way, I’ve just seen Snow White in the guess section of S2, which is probably a mistake.

      Thanks, Cado. I've removed Snow.

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