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  • Hii, I just wanted to have the honor to start the last ever discussion thread :)

    So, was it everything you wished for? 

    Was it not? 

    Did they live happily ever after? 

    Spill the (magic) beans.

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    • Taking my job....

      Going to close this until the episode actually airs.

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    • Go forth!

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    • Ok so now we have to add an after sixth curse section. And I can’t believe it. Storybtooke now has enough people to fit 30+ Earths. The one disappointment is that I thought Regina and Facilier would have a happy ending. But still this finale was amazing, although we will have to add world pages for all the worlds WRumple created.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Ok so now we have to add an after sixth curse section. And I can’t believe it. Storybtooke now has enough people to fit 30+ Earths. The one disappointment is that I thought Regina and Facilier would have a happy ending. But still this finale was amazing, although we will have to add world pages for all the worlds WRumple created.

      Spoilers, please, anyone? (Couldn't watch the episode because none of the live streams worked). 

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Ok so now we have to add an after sixth curse section. And I can’t believe it. Storybtooke now has enough people to fit 30+ Earths. The one disappointment is that I thought Regina and Facilier would have a happy ending. But still this finale was amazing, although we will have to add world pages for all the worlds WRumple created.
      Spoilers, please, anyone? (Couldn't watch the episode because none of the live streams worked). 

      Rumple dies, Regina unites all the realms, Lily's father is Zorro

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Ok so now we have to add an after sixth curse section. And I can’t believe it. Storybtooke now has enough people to fit 30+ Earths. The one disappointment is that I thought Regina and Facilier would have a happy ending. But still this finale was amazing, although we will have to add world pages for all the worlds WRumple created.
      Spoilers, please, anyone? (Couldn't watch the episode because none of the live streams worked). 

      IT WAS PERFECT AND WONDERFUL AND FULL OF FEELINGS AND FABULOUS IN ALL AND EVERY WAY!

      Is that a good enough spoiler for you?

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    • Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Ok so now we have to add an after sixth curse section. And I can’t believe it. Storybtooke now has enough people to fit 30+ Earths. The one disappointment is that I thought Regina and Facilier would have a happy ending. But still this finale was amazing, although we will have to add world pages for all the worlds WRumple created.
      Spoilers, please, anyone? (Couldn't watch the episode because none of the live streams worked). 
      Rumple dies, Regina unites all the realms, Lily's father is Zorro

      Zorro is a dragon? WTF?

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Ok so now we have to add an after sixth curse section. And I can’t believe it. Storybtooke now has enough people to fit 30+ Earths. The one disappointment is that I thought Regina and Facilier would have a happy ending. But still this finale was amazing, although we will have to add world pages for all the worlds WRumple created.
      Spoilers, please, anyone? (Couldn't watch the episode because none of the live streams worked). 
      Rumple dies, Regina unites all the realms, Lily's father is Zorro
      Zorro is a dragon? WTF?

      And why (and who) mentioned this?

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    • Good series finale. Glad they worked in so many actors (plus a bunch more with the archive footage). Think they wrapped up all the characters nicely, as well as made it so everyone can now easily visit everyone else. And good for them for working in the line about Zorro as Lily's father, at least that question is answered.

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Ok so now we have to add an after sixth curse section. And I can’t believe it. Storybtooke now has enough people to fit 30+ Earths. The one disappointment is that I thought Regina and Facilier would have a happy ending. But still this finale was amazing, although we will have to add world pages for all the worlds WRumple created.
      Spoilers, please, anyone? (Couldn't watch the episode because none of the live streams worked). 
      Rumple dies, Regina unites all the realms, Lily's father is Zorro
      Zorro is a dragon? WTF?
      And why (and who) mentioned this?

      Regina mentions it to Zelena as they are going to the corronation.

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    • So was the feather Robin gave Regina was what she used to enact the last curse? Instead of the usual heart and instead out of hatred like most curses have been cast, was this what made the curse so powerful that it could incorporate all the realms?

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Ok so now we have to add an after sixth curse section. And I can’t believe it. Storybtooke now has enough people to fit 30+ Earths. The one disappointment is that I thought Regina and Facilier would have a happy ending. But still this finale was amazing, although we will have to add world pages for all the worlds WRumple created.
      Spoilers, please, anyone? (Couldn't watch the episode because none of the live streams worked). 
      Rumple dies, Regina unites all the realms, Lily's father is Zorro
      Zorro is a dragon? WTF?
      And why (and who) mentioned this?
      Regina mentions it to Zelena as they are going to the corronation.

      So... The only Zelena we see is the Past SB Zelena? No Kelly Zelena?

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    • Seasrmar wrote:
      So was the feather Robin gave Regina was what she used to enact the last curse? Instead of the usual heart and instead out of hatred like most curses have been cast, was this what made the curse so powerful that it could incorporate all the realms?

      No, it was a bit of everyone's heart that made the last "curse".

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    • I liked it and will discount the timeline issues. Everyone story did a nice job closing out. Once again will discount the timeline issue because if I focus on it my head will explode. I liked:

      -Regina being crowned Queen

      -Robin and Alice becoming engaged/Married.

      -Seeing Hook/Emma with Family

      -Wishverse Henry and Regina moment was beautiful. 

      -Bringing all the realms to Storybroke.

      Things I wish we got to see:

      -SerumQueen and Wish Robin. It was weird they weren't at the ceremony. 

      -Wishverse Evil Queen. I think they could have put in a powerful moment were we get to see the woman Regina could have became had she not adopted Henry and became good.

      -I wish we got way more Rumpbelle. There scene wgile perfect was a tad bit short.

      -I wish we got to see Gideon. 

      -I wish we got a scene between Neal and Henry. Granted I know very slim chance but thought it would have been a good call back. 



      All in all though it was a good series finale. 

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Seasrmar wrote:
      So was the feather Robin gave Regina was what she used to enact the last curse? Instead of the usual heart and instead out of hatred like most curses have been cast, was this what made the curse so powerful that it could incorporate all the realms?
      No, it was a bit of everyone's heart that made the last "curse".

      Thanks. Then what was the purpose of the feather?

      Well, now we know where Lily got her Latina heritage. :)

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    • awesome episode!!! i'm crying!! are you crying?? i'm going to miss this show so much!! RIP Rumple. :( also the show and the adventure/journey may be over but you can continued it in the Fanfiction. or re-watch the show on DVD. (I have 6 out of 7 on dvd.) PS: Regina had the last line of the series. that was nice.

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Ok so now we have to add an after sixth curse section. And I can’t believe it. Storybtooke now has enough people to fit 30+ Earths. The one disappointment is that I thought Regina and Facilier would have a happy ending. But still this finale was amazing, although we will have to add world pages for all the worlds WRumple created.
      Spoilers, please, anyone? (Couldn't watch the episode because none of the live streams worked). 
      Rumple dies, Regina unites all the realms, Lily's father is Zorro
      Zorro is a dragon? WTF?

      Actually, Zelena says something similar to that XD

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    • Great ending!

      I thought they should have ended with last season, since it seemed to conclude all storylines and this season made it more confusing, but this ending was much better. They offered closure for everyone's story. I love how they threw in the whole Lily's father thing at the end. Now we don't have to finish the series still wondering.



      There's one thing I don't get. Does combining all the realms mean that everyone from Hiperion Heights, Storybrooke, and Wish Realm live in Storybrooke? With so many versions of the same people who are identicle living close together, there is going to be a lot of confusion.

      Did this curse make Storybrooke much bigger? How were they able to fit everyone from every realm in a small town?

      I'm guessing the time travel thing is no longer an issue because characters from both timelines are now in Storybrooke.

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    • I believe that it would be better if in the end, they showed the words: "And they lived happily ever after"

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    • What did the dark curse do.... did it take everyone in the wish realm foward in time to present day storybroke???

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Ok so now we have to add an after sixth curse section. And I can’t believe it. Storybtooke now has enough people to fit 30+ Earths. The one disappointment is that I thought Regina and Facilier would have a happy ending. But still this finale was amazing, although we will have to add world pages for all the worlds WRumple created.
      Spoilers, please, anyone? (Couldn't watch the episode because none of the live streams worked). 
      Rumple dies, Regina unites all the realms, Lily's father is Zorro
      Zorro is a dragon? WTF?
      And why (and who) mentioned this?
      Regina mentions it to Zelena as they are going to the corronation.
      So... The only Zelena we see is the Past SB Zelena? No Kelly Zelena?

      The Zelena at the end, who takes Regina to the coronation. That is Kelly Zelena.

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    • HarryPotterRules1 wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Ok so now we have to add an after sixth curse section. And I can’t believe it. Storybtooke now has enough people to fit 30+ Earths. The one disappointment is that I thought Regina and Facilier would have a happy ending. But still this finale was amazing, although we will have to add world pages for all the worlds WRumple created.
      Spoilers, please, anyone? (Couldn't watch the episode because none of the live streams worked). 
      Rumple dies, Regina unites all the realms, Lily's father is Zorro
      Zorro is a dragon? WTF?
      And why (and who) mentioned this?
      Regina mentions it to Zelena as they are going to the corronation.
      So... The only Zelena we see is the Past SB Zelena? No Kelly Zelena?
      The Zelena at the end, who takes Regina to the coronation. That is Kelly Zelena.

      Yeah, i'm watching the scene rn at Ouat epic tales

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    • HarryPotterRules1 wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Ok so now we have to add an after sixth curse section. And I can’t believe it. Storybtooke now has enough people to fit 30+ Earths. The one disappointment is that I thought Regina and Facilier would have a happy ending. But still this finale was amazing, although we will have to add world pages for all the worlds WRumple created.
      Spoilers, please, anyone? (Couldn't watch the episode because none of the live streams worked). 
      Rumple dies, Regina unites all the realms, Lily's father is Zorro
      Zorro is a dragon? WTF?
      And why (and who) mentioned this?
      Regina mentions it to Zelena as they are going to the corronation.
      So... The only Zelena we see is the Past SB Zelena? No Kelly Zelena?
      The Zelena at the end, who takes Regina to the coronation. That is Kelly Zelena.

      So... Regina's curse fixed the timeline?

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    • So um...the episode is amazing as a series finale 'n all...but couldn't ABC have given them a bit of a better budget for the greenscreen because yikes...

      Also, where is Zorro from?

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    • Wait, so Zorro can become a dragon?

      OK, what does he look like as a dragon (Was that him in the opening of episode 21 and in the ending of episode 22)? Was he born with the power to become a dragon (like Lily) or did he obtain it through a spell? And what's his back story in relation to his time AS a dragon; what acts did he do besides mate with Maleficent? There's a lot of questions that need to be answered in relation to Zorro now, but I looked stuff up and Edward Kitsis explained that “the truth was Zorro is not public domain and we couldn’t get the rights … So it’s up to the audience to imagine what could have been!"

      So I guess it's up to us and our imagination now?

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    • .... So. I might be wrong, or anything else... But I'm fairly sure that David Anders was not in the episode. Did anyone see him?

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      .... So. I might be wrong, or anything else... But I'm fairly sure that David Anders was not in the episode. Did anyone see him?

      I think the only place in the episode that he could have shown up is at the end when Regina gets crowned as the Good Queen. I didn't see him there, though.

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    • Begfhn wrote:

      There's one thing I don't get. Does combining all the realms mean that everyone from Hiperion Heights, Storybrooke, and Wish Realm live in Storybrooke? With so many versions of the same people who are identicle living close together, there is going to be a lot of confusion.

      Did this curse make Storybrooke much bigger? How were they able to fit everyone from every realm in a small town?

      I'm guessing the time travel thing is no longer an issue because characters from both timelines are now in Storybrooke.

      Storybrooke isn't the same size judging by the shot of them panning over multiple realms within Storybrooke. 

      For me, it's the easiest to look at it as the original Storybrooke town becoming another FTL realm - in that there are no portals needed between any realms and you can now travel across them like they are countries. You can see that the realms are still "separated," they're just accessible. So once you cross the townline, into this "Storybrooke" universe, it's a whole other infinite world with a ton of land mass.

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    • Lbatten wrote:
      What did the dark curse do.... did it take everyone in the wish realm foward in time to present day storybroke???

      I was a little confused but it seems Regina was able to bridge all the realms together in Storybrooke, so all the realms are nearby and easily accessible. That way no one has to be separated from each other. That gives me a bit of a headache thinking about it. Does that mean there are still two Zelenas (past magicless Zelena and present day Kelly/Zelena) and two Robins (toddler Robin and grown-up Robin)??

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    • Well it's done... for now. (Wishful thinking). I literally cried and happy cried this finale was truly wonderful. I loved that everyone's story was brought together in a marvelous way. Especially how they threw in the Maleficent and Lily father mystery. I will miss show so much but itll still be alive forever and for always.

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    • Presumably Regina did the curse when Storybrooke was at the right time - to avoid any... icky... problems.

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    • The only thing I truly cared about when going into this finale was Rumple's reunion with Belle in the afterlife. It was beautiful. 'Nuff said.

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    • I love thAt Emma and Hooks’s daughter is named Hope. Perfect.

      I still dint understand where everyone was if they weren’t in Hyperion Heights?

      I cried. Sobbed. Can’t believe it’s over.

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    • Before I end up going about everything I adore about this episode (there's a lot), I'll get another critcism out there: there was very little remorse about killing wish Snowing from Regina. She was far more traumitized when she killed the Count in 602! Out of self-defence! I also felt Regina was a bit too happy during it; I kinda wanted to see sad Regina one last time (that sounds rather cruel...not because I hate her, but Lana does it very well when she does). 

      Adding: was hoping for a little more CS...seeing them made me realize how much I missed them. Related: SQers are surprisingly satisfied-ish? I think A & E were fairly fair otherwise with the Emma moments (but I know that CS fans wanted more CS ofc). 

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    • I'M CRYING SO HARD I NEVER THOUGHT I'D CRY THIS HARD, THIS HOW HAS BEEN EPIC, THE FINALE HAS BEEN EPIC, I'M PROBABLY THE ONE WHO'S CRYING THE MOST 

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      Before I end up going about everything I adore about this episode (there's a lot), I'll get another critcism out there: there was very little remorse about killing wish Snowing from Regina. She was far more traumitized when she killed the Count in 602! Out of self-defence! I also felt Regina was a bit too happy during it; I kinda wanted to see sad Regina one last time (that sounds rather cruel...not because I hate her, but Lana does it very well when she does). 

      Adding: was hoping for a little more CS...seeing them made me realize how much I missed them. Related: SQers are surprisingly satisfied-ish? I think A & E were fairly fair otherwise with the Emma moments (but I know that CS fans wanted more CS ofc). 

      I'm an SQ and OMG... SQ's scenes were awesome

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      So um...the episode is amazing as a series finale 'n all...but couldn't ABC have given them a bit of a better budget for the greenscreen because yikes...

      Also, where is Zorro from?

      Old Disney tv show, but originally from a book series:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zorro

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      .... So. I might be wrong, or anything else... But I'm fairly sure that David Anders was not in the episode. Did anyone see him?

      He was not credited, so scene must have been cut.

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    • One little annoying thing in the corronation scene. Child Pinnocio was there. Neither Wish Pinnocio or SB Pinnocio should be a child, so what's up with that?

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    • The Zelena at the end was Kelly, not past Zelena. She poofed by magic. I think Zelena has drunk the forgetting potion to go to the NEF, when Kelly returned for Regina’s coronation

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote: One little annoying thing in the corronation scene. Child Pinnocio was there. Neither Wish Pinnocio or SB Pinnocio should be a child, so what's up with that?

      They put Pinnochio there; but not possible to know which one it is.

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    • So everyone who went back in time did go back to their proper time.....right? Is this implied?

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    • JennaMae wrote: So everyone who went back in time did go back to their proper time.....right? Is this implied?

      Yes. The fact that Zelena has magic is a proof of it. She got it back as Kelly, so yup

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    • Lady Junky wrote:

      JennaMae wrote: So everyone who went back in time did go back to their proper time.....right? Is this implied?

      Yes. The fact that Zelena has magic is a proof of it. She got it back as Kelly, so yup

      But this still doesn't explain the whole Kelly/Chad situation though. 

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      So everyone who went back in time did go back to their proper time.....right? Is this implied?

      Yeah, since we had baby Hope and Emma wasn't pregnant till after Henry was in the NEF for a while.

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    • Was anyone else super pleased to see that all six former regulars were credited as "Special Guest Star"? Since only Jen was credited as that with 7x02, and Emilie, Bex, and Jared have just been credited as normal guest stars, I was very curious to see how they'd handle Ginny and Josh. This just made me very happy to see. :)

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    • DeviousPeep wrote:
      Was anyone else super pleased to see that all six former regulars were credited as "Special Guest Star"? Since only Jen was credited as that with 7x02, and Emilie, Bex, and Jared have just been credited as normal guest stars, I was very curious to see how they'd handle Ginny and Josh. This just made me very happy to see. :)

      Me too... But I was sad that Sean and Raphael were normal guest stars

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    • The finale was...decent. Not nearly as grand as I hoped, but decent. And in spite of the fact that these last few seasons were a bit strange narrative-wise, and they dropped a lot of plots and characters over the years while making questionable decisions about others, I still love this show:} Here's hoping there's a Season 8 comic series or something.

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    • There must be a scene of Emma and Hook's baby delivered, but deleted. That's why Whale is credited. Gosh someone please tell Adam and Eddy release the Extended Cut of the Finale on Bluray

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    • I genuinely thought it was a good episode/finale. Granted, there are still plotholes, and some storylines didn't quite turn out as expected (Lily's father, as only mentioned for example, and the timelines are still confusing), but based on the sometimes messy stories in the last few seasons, I think this was a good way to close/end the main story.

      The Wishverse Henry and Regina moment was a bit disappointing for me, since it was more of a "let's have a talk, I don't mind killing you and I don't mind dying, but now I've suddenly changed my mind"-moment, but nonetheless, I think the main synopsis was great, together with the returning characters and props.

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    • Personally, I would have Rumple wore something blue when he reunited with Belle given that she wore a golden dress, kinda of reminder of their first dance and as Beauty and the Beast.

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    • I'll probably find lots of things to pick apart when the blu ray comes out and I rewatch, but for now, can I just say I am happy and satisfied? It made me smile, made me cry and made me sigh, so it did everything it needed to do. I even got one last glimpse at the Emerald City and it looked gorgeous with those other kingdoms, no longer lonely.


      I am so sad it ended, but as an ending, this was better than s6's finale for me.

      They also left it open while making sure if it is final, this time it is satisfying. Plenty of flashbacks, new adventures and even new worlds that can be explored if they ever want to, but as a send off it was great.

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    • Kinda wish we got to see Alice and Robin's wedding.

      One thing I'm confused on. When the sixth curse was cast, did it correct the timeline and move everyone forward? Or were they still in the past? Does that also mean there is still a Rumple and Belle alive in Storybrooke, or are all versions of them dead? 

      How did this affect Hyperion Heights? Does that neighborhood even still exist? Since HH was part of Seattle and not a separate city does that mean that only fairy tale HH residents were brought to the new Storybrooke or are there regular people living there now too?

      I also thought it would have been cool if the town line was fully open and ordinary people could come and go from Storybrooke as they pleased. Imagine tourists being able to drive up to Maine to visit Agrabah, Arendelle, Neverland and various other fairy tale realms. 

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    • I like the fact that they were able to bring back many of the original characters including Blue Fairy, dwarfs, Granny, Archie, even Gepetto and kid August/Pinocchio.(although he should be much older), Smee. And that everyone was reunited and had a happy ending.

      Sorry this is long. I know "its just a show" and shouldn't think about it too hard. But here are just some thoughts I had after watching the finale. Just Food for Thought. Maybe others had the same thought or creative explanations. 

      If Storybrook Zelena doesn't have magic then how did Hook2 and Rumple get Maui's hook? 

      I dont understand how the timeline fits.They didn't really explain clearly if all the Seattle characters return to their proper timeline in the future. Since they're standing in Prince Charming and Snow's Castle which is presumably still in Wish Realm (Sir (Wish) Henry and adult Henry are with her)  when Regina decides to cast another curse. So if they all go back to Storybrook as is wouldn't that mean there would be 2 Regina's and 3 Henry's? 

      And even if it is assumed that they go back to the their proper timeline  Further proof the timeline is messed up. Adult Henry has a 10 year old daughter. So why is Emma and Hook's child still a baby?  When at the beginning of Season 7 when she announced she was pregnant Henry hadn't reunited with Cinderella yet. And Prince Neal should be older too. The actor actually looks younger than Lucy. 

      So does Wish Henry just go back with them and Regina gets to raise her son again? I would have liked to see how that plays out when Sir(Wish) Henry is reunited with his mom Emma (who is one and the same) or his counterpart grandparents( Snow and Charming) or when anybody sees both adult Henry and Sir Henry together. Freaky!! 

      At the beginning of Season 7 when Wish Hook appeared and that's how the creators were able to explain Hook's presence in season 7, it made sense. But when they ended the story in the wish realm with Sir Henry, I really didn't like that they made "Wish Realm" like  a real thing or like another kingdom. 

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    • They was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to rushed 

      Like, for real. It felt like a season premiere when they show only the highlights of the storyline, and the rest of the season will fill the gaps. 

      I know this is ABC's fault. They should have ordered - at least - an extra episode for the finale. 

      Season 6 finale was orders of magnitude superior 

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    • They deleted a lot of stuff

      -The Evil Queen's carriage scene was cut

      -We know Lana filmed wearing an Evil Queen outfit (probably the Serum Queen)

      -Doctor Whale wasn't in the episode

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      They deleted a lot of stuff

      -The Evil Queen's carriage scene was cut

      -We know Lana filmed wearing an Evil Queen outfit (probably the Serum Queen)

      -Doctor Whale wasn't in the episode

      I wonder couldn’t the Crystal ball they Henry told Violet about in the season 5 finale be the same one wish Rumple used to trap Lucy and Jacinda in well the wish realm version of it anyway? -A.D.

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    • RubyRed31 wrote:
      I like the fact that they were able to bring back many of the original characters including Blue Fairy, 3/7 dwarfs, Granny, Archie, even Gepetto and kid August/Pinocchio.(although he should be much older). And that everyone was reunited and had a happy ending.

      4/7 dwarfs. Grumpy, Doc, Sneezy, and Sleepy were all in the episode. The other 3 also appeared in archive footage, so technically we saw all 7.

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    • I haven't watched it yet but can somebody tell me where were all those archived footage? In a montage? 

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    • I feel empty inside, as if a piece of me is missing. I honestly started feeling empty about half an hour into the episode. I think it was because I had stopped pushing my feelings about the show ended down and once the barrier was gone, nothing was there except this strange feeling of sadness that isn’t quite sadness. It’s like having a hole in your heart, but the hole is slightly fixed. I have no idea if that makes any sense. I’m not actually sure how I feel about this episode. I usually know how I feel about an episode soon after it ends, but for this very last one, I have no idea. I definitely enjoyed it, but it didn’t bring me as much feelings as I thought (and wished) it would. So I’m slightly disappointed on that part. It’s probably because I knew of every spoiler possible, but that’s my own fault. 

      There was a lot of the episode that gave me feelings and enjoyment, the biggest of all was Captain Swan and their baby daughter, Hope. I absolutely loved that they had a dramatic entrance during Regina’s coronation and Emma (wearing her red leather jacket over her ballgown) said, “Sorry, I’m late.” I loved that Regina asked after them and that when they showed up, Emma told Regina she wasn’t going to miss her coronation. I liked their greeting and their conversation where Regina declared that this was her second chance. I’ve always liked their friendship and the hug they greeted each other with felt like one between two old friends which made me happy. I also like how they’ll always be Madam Mayor and Miss Swan to each other. Anyways, back to Baby Hope. We didn’t get to see her face, but she is adorable and I love her. I love that Henry got to hold her and so did Emma and Killian. Emma and Killian only said a couple of words to each other, but the heart-eye game at each other and Baby Hope was strong and I loved it. I also loved that Baby Hope’s outfit matched her mom’s ballgown, which is absolutely gorgeous by the way. Captain Swan is the best and so is Hope. 

      So for the actual episode itself, the main problem was solved about half-way through. Rumple ended up saving the day when he told everyone that you do good things because they’re the right things to do and not for any reward. It was a great moment of development for a character I feel nothing for (I also felt nothing when he died and was reunited with Belle). He then ripped out his own heart, which the darkness disappeared from. I’m not entirely sure how that happened, but I don’t really care because Rumple then gave his “new” heart to Wish Killian, who, after holding onto Alice while they were being sucked into Wish Rumple’s prison portals. This caused his heart to give out, but his new heart revived him and he and Alice were reunited and there was a Knightrook hug and it was wonderful. Speaking of those two (and Curious Archer), Robin asked Wish Killian if she had his blessing to marry Alice. I then proceed to fall over and flail for a good thirty seconds. Curious Archer is gonna get married!!! 

      Another thing I liked about the finale was that Regina got Wish Henry to stop trying to kill her by getting him to realize that she loves all versions of him and that they’re are other people who love all versions of him as well. I also loved that Regina killing Wish Snowing was addressed. It’s something that needed to happen. Once the day had been saved, Regina told the Henrys that she was going to cast one final Dark Curse. The purpose of this curse was to bring everyone together as opposed to separate them. I think this is a very beautiful anti-parallel to Regina casting the first Dark Curse. The heart-of-the-thing-you-love-most loophole ended up being  small gifted pieces from the hearts of everyone who loves her and whom she loves. I really love that all the realms of story were brought together. The visuals of all the realms was so cool. One of the biggest reasons I love the Newly United Realms (NUR) is that it means Emma and Elsa can visit each other. And everyone can visit everyone else without having to worry about portals and stuff. 

      Regina being elected the Good Queen of the NUR makes a lot of sense to me. She did cast the first curse, but she went through a lengthy and difficult redemption and ended up essentially undoing the act of casting the first curse by bring everyone together with one final one. I also like that she’s considering her new position as a second chance. I think it’s fitting for the former Evil Queen. Regina has gone through a long journey to get where she is and I’m happy with how things ended for her. I’m happy with how things ended for everyone, actually. I loved that Snow got to give one final hope speech, I love the two sightings of Emma’s Bug, I love that they finally answered the long-awaited question: Who is Lily’s father? The answer? Zorro. Zorro is a dragon. I love that the first thing we saw after the previously on was the clock at 8:15 and that the same time was shown at the end. Speaking of which, today’s date, 5-18 is the reverse of 8:15. That probably wasn’t intentional, but it’s still pretty cool. I loved Alice and Robin’s run in with the dwarves and Granny when they first arrived in Storybrooke. Wish Rumple and Wish Henry made excellent final villains. Though Wish Henry was more of a pawn who had nothing to live for because he didn’t have anyone. Due to Regina, but she more than made up for that by giving him even more people who love him, including herself. 

      I think I’ve gotten everything I can out of my system regarding the finale. While writing this, I’ve realized that my overall feeling for this episode is satisfaction. I also don’t feel empty anymore.  I’m happy with the way things ended and the only thing I would change is that Belle would be alive. I had a much stronger reaction towards the other finale. After The Final Battle I felt a myriad of emotions, the strongest of which was immense happiness at Emma’s journey and the happy beginnings and nervous excitement for the new story. This new story ended up being enjoyable for the most part. There were aspects I didn’t care for, but the good more than made up for the bad. This season was very different from the first six, but I still loved it just like all the others. 

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    • Nakis91 wrote:
      I haven't watched it yet but can somebody tell me where were all those archived footage? In a montage? 

      Moe showed up in a scene with Gold using a dream catcher to look at his wedding to Belle. Everyone else was in a montage at the end while Regina was making a speech.

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    • Absolutely amazing. It is the perfect ending we could have asked for.

      Rumple's death was emotional, but seeing him reunited with Belle one last time brought me so much joy. The tale of the Beauty and the Beast is over, and they truly lived happily ever after.

      Regina. The Good Queen. Wow. I mean, I couldn't literally stop crying during the whole coronation scene. It was perfect from the beginning to the end. I love that all the realms are now in Storybrooke, united, it's a brilliant idea. And I love that Regina is their queen, once and for all. She deserved it, she freakin' deserved it. It was lovely to see Emma (and of course, Snow and Charming) again and the "Sorry I'm late" entrance with the leather jacket was perfect, plus the SwanQueen hug. Finally, the final Regina speech with all the footage from the past seasons moments was the perfect way to wrap it up forever.

      (And they finally gave an answer about Lily's father! XD)

      Thank you, Once Upon a Time.

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    • Wow... that was... I'm crying like a baby... 

      Alice and Margot in Storybrooke was so much fun hahaha Leroy whispering Intruders oh my God I want more of that hahaha.

      Jared Gilmore improved sooooooo much! His scenes with Regina were so well executed. And the scene with the portals... well done. Nook grabbing Alice despite their hearts and WRumple VS Rumple was so good. Rumple's death made me so emotional... and his reunion... God, Emilie is so beautiful. Regina's goodbye made me cry. 

      Robin's minute and his talk with Regina made me cry so much. 

      Emma and Hook rushing in the hall with the leather jacket and the pacifier on the hook... I love that they made them be that goofy couple. Their scenes were short but nice. 

      Snow and Charming's return made me smile. 

      Lily's father is Zorro and I'm happy they put that it. Them saying they tried to get the rights for Zorro but were unable, makes me think it was supposed to be revealed in the Land of Untold Stories arc. 

      The ending montage was amazing... And Tinkerbell was a nice touch. Though was Mulan and Season 7 totally absent from the ending montage? hahahaha come on people! 

      I like the idea of a gigantic fairytale land hidden in Maine, but... now there are two versions of all characters? And young Henry and older Henry? 

      It did feel a bit rushed, probably because they were out of time, but I'm betting on an extended cut on the DVD. 

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    • Nakis91 wrote:

      It did feel a bit rushed, probably because they were out of time, but I'm betting on an extended cut on the DVD. 


      Yes. It was confirmed the deleted scenes will appear in the DVD, like the scene with W!Blue, W!Grumpy and W!Granny robbing Roni Regina in the WishRealm

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      Nakis91 wrote:

      It did feel a bit rushed, probably because they were out of time, but I'm betting on an extended cut on the DVD. 


      Yes. It was confirmed the deleted scenes will appear in the DVD, like the scene with W!Blue, W!Grumpy and W!Granny robbing Roni Regina in the WishRealm

      Yes deleted scenes as standalone are a given. I'm hoping for an extended edit of the episode. 

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    • Loved the episode, yes,yes,yes and yes finaly after 4 years we know who Liliys Father is:Zorro.

      And Untited Realms of Storybrook kind reminded me of Disney parks or Auradon but OUAT version,but Regina gaining new title"Good Oueen" made me cry as well as seeing our main reality Hook,Emma and Henry holding his baby sis Hope.

      But i think when Regina cast sixth curse it only brought small parts of other magical realms/worlds and citizens while the magical worlds and FTL/NFTL realms are still were they are.

      Also was that dragon that was flying near by a castle in Storybrook the Zorro,because he totally looked the same as Wish Realm dragon seen in 7x21.Anyways amazing episode and a fitting ending to OUAT.

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    • Kunica wrote:
      Loved the episode, yes,yes,yes and yes finaly after 4 years we know who Liliys Father is:Zorro.

      And Untited Realms of Storybrook kind reminded me of Disney parks or Auradon but OUAT version,but Regina gaining new title"Good Oueen" made me cry as well as seeing our main reality Hook,Emma and Henry holding his baby sis Hope.

      But i think when Regina cast sixth curse it only brought small parts of other magical realms/worlds and citizens while the magical worlds and FTL/NFTL realms are still were they are.

      Also was that dragon that was flying near by a castle in Storybrook the Zorro,because he totally looked the same as Wish Realm dragon seen in 7x21.Anyways amazing episode and a fitting ending to OUAT.

      Zorro as a dragon tormenting NEF Sleeping Beauty and Philip. Now THAT'S a story I wanna see hahahaha. 

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    • Nakis91 wrote:
      Kunica wrote:
      Loved the episode, yes,yes,yes and yes finaly after 4 years we know who Liliys Father is:Zorro.

      And Untited Realms of Storybrook kind reminded me of Disney parks or Auradon but OUAT version,but Regina gaining new title"Good Oueen" made me cry as well as seeing our main reality Hook,Emma and Henry holding his baby sis Hope.

      But i think when Regina cast sixth curse it only brought small parts of other magical realms/worlds and citizens while the magical worlds and FTL/NFTL realms are still were they are.

      Also was that dragon that was flying near by a castle in Storybrook the Zorro,because he totally looked the same as Wish Realm dragon seen in 7x21.Anyways amazing episode and a fitting ending to OUAT.

      Zorro as a dragon tormenting NEF Sleeping Beauty and Philip. Now THAT'S a story I wanna see hahahaha. 

      No not NEF Sleeping Beauty and Philip, but Wish Realm version that we saw in 7x21,and if there are many other copies of main reality charcters why whouldent there be a Wish Realm copy of Zorro.

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    • I loved it. Nothing else to say. <3 

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    • There were lots of things I loved about it, but then many things which made no sense. The timeline's kind of a mess. The Henry, Cinderella and Lucy at Regina's coronation made no sense. It's only been around nine months since Henry went back for Cinderella (i.e. before he married her and had Lucy), because Hope was a newborn baby. And yet, there needs to be at least ten to even fifteen years for Henry because Lucy was there.

      I kept forgetting who was from the Wish Realm and who was from Storybrooke. But then there were lots of things that I loved. I was worried they cut baby Hope from the show, I'm happy she was in it! And the happy ending was everything I wanted. I am looking forward to new scenes being released eventually.

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    • It felt a bit rushed. IE. How Henry quickly forgave Regina.

      I loved Rumples death scene , it brought a year to my eye.

      Was it wish Henry at Regina's coronation?

      Who ended up looking after Wish Henry?

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    • Misses Niklaus Mikaelson wrote: It felt a bit rushed. IE. How Henry quickly forgave Regina.

      I loved Rumples death scene , it brought a year to my eye.

      Was it wish Henry at Regina's coronation?

      Who ended up looking after Wish Henry?

      I found the Wish Realm Henry an unneeded character in the finale, and I think he took up too much time. I agree a lot of other things were rushed when the time could be taken from Wish Henry's arc. The only good thing about it was Regina's character development.

      It was the real Henry at the coronation. Why would Wish Henry be there and not real Henry? Cinderella and Lucy were there with him. It would make no sense. Wish Henry has no connection to our Emma, Hook, Cinderella and Lucy, and Hope wouldn't be his younger sibling. Anyway, Wish Henry was far too young then to be Andrew's Henry.

      I kind of thought Wish Henry would live with Wish Emma in the Wish Realm. He's their future King right?

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    • omg. Im broken. I LOVE what they did with Storybrooke. Its like Land of Untold Stories 2.0 (except we know most of their stories). Zorro was a weird choice, for Lily's dad but we finally got the answer, so I cant complain too much.

      Glad they brought Maui's Fish Hook back. Never cared much for OutlawQueen, but their scene was very well done. I would've liked more Emma, but I know JMo's schedule is hectic, and it was better than nothing. 

      While I loved this episode, I had a few nitpicks: I would've liked to see Gideon, I wanted Rumple to reunite with Neal too, and I thought it was weird to see Sir Henry call Regina "mom" (they have no relation. Forgiving her is one thing, but becoming her son is another.)

      Hopefully, they'll do a reunion show in 10 years or something.

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    • When W!Rumple started turing into ashes I thought he was going to say "Mr Stark I don’t feel so good” lol


      I have to say that a couple of moments were a bit emotional for me: Robin Hood in the dream and Regina finding out Rumple was dead

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    • It was perfect

      In everyone faces that said season6 needed to be the last

      I loved how regina changed black fairy's curse and what we are going to call this?? The light spell? The uniter spell??

      I loved how rumpled died to save every one

      I loved Capitan swan and Selena and all the storybook characters

      And for the last I loved Regina as the good queen((but I would call her as the best queen))

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    • Kates39 wrote:

      Misses Niklaus Mikaelson wrote: It felt a bit rushed. IE. How Henry quickly forgave Regina.

      I loved Rumples death scene , it brought a year to my eye.

      Was it wish Henry at Regina's coronation?

      Who ended up looking after Wish Henry?

      I found the Wish Realm Henry an unneeded character in the finale, and I think he took up too much time. I agree a lot of other things were rushed when the time could be taken from Wish Henry's arc. The only good thing about it was Regina's character development.

      It was the real Henry at the coronation. Why would Wish Henry be there and not real Henry? Cinderella and Lucy were there with him. It would make no sense. Wish Henry has no connection to our Emma, Hook, Cinderella and Lucy, and Hope wouldn't be his younger sibling. Anyway, Wish Henry was far too young then to be Andrew's Henry.

      I kind of thought Wish Henry would live with Wish Emma in the Wish Realm. He's their future King right?

      Actually we only have one Emma and now that we know all the WR people are real so Emma is WRhenry's mother. 

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    • So now that all realms are in our world does that mean a magic been won't take us to another place except all tthe story book and LWM??

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    • Black fairy and dark curse wrote:

      Kates39 wrote:

      Misses Niklaus Mikaelson wrote: It felt a bit rushed. IE. How Henry quickly forgave Regina.

      I loved Rumples death scene , it brought a year to my eye.

      Was it wish Henry at Regina's coronation?

      Who ended up looking after Wish Henry?

      I found the Wish Realm Henry an unneeded character in the finale, and I think he took up too much time. I agree a lot of other things were rushed when the time could be taken from Wish Henry's arc. The only good thing about it was Regina's character development.

      It was the real Henry at the coronation. Why would Wish Henry be there and not real Henry? Cinderella and Lucy were there with him. It would make no sense. Wish Henry has no connection to our Emma, Hook, Cinderella and Lucy, and Hope wouldn't be his younger sibling. Anyway, Wish Henry was far too young then to be Andrew's Henry.

      I kind of thought Wish Henry would live with Wish Emma in the Wish Realm. He's their future King right?

      Actually we only have one Emma and now that we know all the WR people are real so Emma is WRhenry's mother. 

      But that's impossible. It makes virtually no sense. Wish Emma and real Emma have had two entirely separate lives. For example, Wish Hook and real Hook are not the same. Alice is not real Hook's daughter. It wasn't a thing they explored properly.

      If the Wish Realm's going to be real now, then it makes no sense. Are you seriously saying real Emma has two children who are doppelgängers? That she went out with two Neal's, had two sets of parents? There has to be another Emma. Real Emma wouldn't be much of a mother when she's technically abandoned him. She doesn't think she's Wish Henry's mother, and he doesn't think he's real Emma's child either.

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    • I will delete all WR debating.

      There is no Wish Emma. There is and has only been one Emma.

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    • Eskaver wrote: I will delete all WR debating.

      There is no Wish Emma. There is and has only been one Emma.

      I don't think that's very fair. It's a valid point to say the WR makes no sense, and the discussion was civil. People shouldn't be deleting comments simply because they don't agree. Fans should be allowed to debate it.

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    • Why is Pinnochio there? Both main and Wish versions are grown men. Also, when the coronation took place, was that still in the past or the present?

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    • As well did anyone else noticed that behinde Zelena,Tiana,Alice and Rogers group when they were standing in coronation scene ,behinde them were two Asia people :the male kinda looked indentical to The Dragon ( played by Tzi Ma) but had shaved beard and with him was standing a Asian woman that chould be his "lost daughter" ,i chould be mistaken that this were just random Asian costars but then again Storybrook is now "Untited Realms" county state in Maine were they chould live in ,so why whouldent Dragon and his daughter be invited to Reginas coronation.

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    • I couldn't have asked for a better ending.

      • LOLing at Grumpy's "Intruder" and MadArcher fleeing. Glad to see the more "normal" folks of Storybrooke again.
      • Great development for Rumple and Regina. Had the S6 finale been it, their journey isn't satisfying enough, so I'm more than happy. Got EMOTIONAL at all scenes with them. (Regina reaching out to WHenry, Rumple and WHook as friends, Rumple vs WRumple - cue Tom Holland please, Rumple rejoining Belle, a nice 512Neal-style OutlawQueen reunion). Regina finally winning the love of the people - just as she did to us longtime fans
      • The complete mindf***ery of all this. Messed up timelines, realms merging *nonrelated*, doppelgangers....? This screams The Flash. (Although I do like the concept of a United Realms - think of it like our United Nations)
      • Snowing and their hope speeches never really gets old.
      • "Sorry I'm late" Emma's callback game is strong. Also SQers getting their long overdue and emotional hug. CS and baby Hope is cute too.
      • Robyn's ask for WHook's hand in marriage. A well-written LGBT relationship on Once has a future ahead of them.
      • Regina's hope speech and the montage of the show's memorable moments. yas

      *The last aerial shots of Storybrooke, the music, and the town line sign. that's it, i'm crying

      7 years worth remembering.

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    • Lola987 wrote: Why is Pinnochio there? Both main and Wish versions are grown men. Also, when the coronation took place, was that still in the past or the present?

      It was the present, because Neal was 10 years old. And baby Hope was there

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    • Kates39 wrote:

      Misses Niklaus Mikaelson wrote: It felt a bit rushed. IE. How Henry quickly forgave Regina.

      I loved Rumples death scene , it brought a year to my eye.

      Was it wish Henry at Regina's coronation?

      Who ended up looking after Wish Henry?

      I found the Wish Realm Henry an unneeded character in the finale, and I think he took up too much time. I agree a lot of other things were rushed when the time could be taken from Wish Henry's arc. The only good thing about it was Regina's character development.

      It was the real Henry at the coronation. Why would Wish Henry be there and not real Henry? Cinderella and Lucy were there with him. It would make no sense. Wish Henry has no connection to our Emma, Hook, Cinderella and Lucy, and Hope wouldn't be his younger sibling. Anyway, Wish Henry was far too young then to be Andrew's Henry.

      I kind of thought Wish Henry would live with Wish Emma in the Wish Realm. He's their future King right?

      The character played by Jared throughout the entire episode is Wish Henry. OG Henry is the one played by Andrew West, the adult version, the other one is Wish Henry that came to Storybrooke with everyone else. And yes, it might be rushed that he forgives Regina so quickly, but we should understand that time wasn't enough to clarify everything. Then, he redeems when he witness the person he saw as a murder ready to die without defending herself just in order to give him a good example: I think that's quite a powerful thing. And there is no Wish Emma. The Emma we saw in the Wish Realm last season was OG Emma, she is the only character not having a doppelganger.

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    • To be honest, I hated that we didn't see the curse smoke cloud (Not counting those 3 seconds we see it) . XD

      THAT'S WHAT I WAS WAITING FOR!

      But, I understand they didn't have the time, oh well. xD

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    • Kunica wrote:
      Nakis91 wrote:
      Kunica wrote:
      Loved the episode, yes,yes,yes and yes finaly after 4 years we know who Liliys Father is:Zorro.

      And Untited Realms of Storybrook kind reminded me of Disney parks or Auradon but OUAT version,but Regina gaining new title"Good Oueen" made me cry as well as seeing our main reality Hook,Emma and Henry holding his baby sis Hope.

      But i think when Regina cast sixth curse it only brought small parts of other magical realms/worlds and citizens while the magical worlds and FTL/NFTL realms are still were they are.

      Also was that dragon that was flying near by a castle in Storybrook the Zorro,because he totally looked the same as Wish Realm dragon seen in 7x21.Anyways amazing episode and a fitting ending to OUAT.

      Zorro as a dragon tormenting NEF Sleeping Beauty and Philip. Now THAT'S a story I wanna see hahahaha. 
      No not NEF Sleeping Beauty and Philip, but Wish Realm version that we saw in 7x21,and if there are many other copies of main reality charcters why whouldent there be a Wish Realm copy of Zorro.

      Those were NEF, not Wish Realm. Wish Realm would be played by Sarah and Julian, not be new actors.

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    • Kates39 wrote:

      Misses Niklaus Mikaelson wrote: It felt a bit rushed. IE. How Henry quickly forgave Regina.

      I loved Rumples death scene , it brought a year to my eye.

      Was it wish Henry at Regina's coronation?

      Who ended up looking after Wish Henry?

      I found the Wish Realm Henry an unneeded character in the finale, and I think he took up too much time. I agree a lot of other things were rushed when the time could be taken from Wish Henry's arc. The only good thing about it was Regina's character development.

      It was the real Henry at the coronation. Why would Wish Henry be there and not real Henry? Cinderella and Lucy were there with him. It would make no sense. Wish Henry has no connection to our Emma, Hook, Cinderella and Lucy, and Hope wouldn't be his younger sibling. Anyway, Wish Henry was far too young then to be Andrew's Henry.

      I kind of thought Wish Henry would live with Wish Emma in the Wish Realm. He's their future King right?

      There is no Wish Emma. Our Emma was Wish Emma.

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    • Lola987 wrote:
      Why is Pinnochio there? Both main and Wish versions are grown men. Also, when the coronation took place, was that still in the past or the present?

      Has to be present, or at least after 702, as Emma had the baby.

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    • Rwo

      CoolDudeAl wrote:

      Lola987 wrote:
      Why is Pinnochio there? Both main and Wish versions are grown men. Also, when the coronation took place, was that still in the past or the present?

      Has to be present, or at least after 702, as Emma had the baby.

      It's the future. Baby Robin is absent and there's only one Zelena, meaning they'd already left once to join the others in the NEF, where Gothel cast her curse before Regina could unify the realms (otherwise there would be a paradox).

      That implies Robin grew up thanks to magic between her fifth and eighteenth birthday as Neal is only 9-10 yo by the coronation day.

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    • Rwo wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote:

      Lola987 wrote:
      Why is Pinnochio there? Both main and Wish versions are grown men. Also, when the coronation took place, was that still in the past or the present?
      Has to be present, or at least after 702, as Emma had the baby.
      It's the future. Baby Robin is absent and there's only one Zelena, meaning they'd already left once to join the others in the NEF, where Gothel cast her curse before Regina could unify the realms (otherwise there would be a paradox).

      That implies Robin grew up thanks to magic between her fifth and eighteenth birthday as Neal is only 9-10 yo by the coronation day.

      By present, I mean present day on the timeline, which would be whatever year it was when Gothel cast the dark curse.

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    • Sorry I'm late.

      Eek! I loved that scene so much lol. Would have liked a little more Emma & Killian dialogue (same goes for Snowing). I think Regina got a bit too much screentime; Snowing crowned her, Emma's dialogue with her, Rumple's death had her little spiel... I mean it wasn't bad, but I could have used more character interactions besides Regina... Could have used a Robin line of him asking about his daughter. 

      I'm happy we saw Prince Neal! A little disappointed there wasn't time for him and Emma to interact, but there were obvious scheduling conflicts and lack of time for the episode anyways. 

      The coronation was better than I expected, but I have trouble believing Regina would get elected over the likes of Snow or even Emma (feat. Elsa, Jasmine/Aladdin, Anastasia, Tiana, Merida, Guinivere, etc.). The merged realms was a really cool sequence despite certain implications...would have been nice if Regina's special "curse" had a brief line about returning them to the present. 

      The snowglobe was fun too, and I liked the CGI when they escaped...but I'm pretty sure Alice shouldn't have magic...

      Rumple's death scene was pretty good, but it's pretty evident they mixed up the serum copies and WR copies...I'll let it slide though. Rumple's speech was very important too.

      The "unhappy endings" were amusing too, with Snow's dramatic shifting sands or something and Zelena getting stuck in the Nautilus? 

      Alice and Robyn remained adorable as they have been (loved the SB opening scene, plus Robyn asking for Nook's blessing). 

      Overall: happy with the series finale. 

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    • One question, guys, is the EQ Palace in this ep the original EF one or the WR one? Because the last time we saw the WR EQ palace it was in ruins (610).

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    • Adamhl2000 wrote:
      One question, guys, is the EQ Palace in this ep the original EF one or the WR one? Because the last time we saw the WR EQ palace it was in ruins (610).

      It should be the original, but it could also be a mistake in production.

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      They deleted a lot of stuff

      -The Evil Queen's carriage scene was cut

      -We know Lana filmed wearing an Evil Queen outfit (probably the Serum Queen)

      -Doctor Whale wasn't in the episode

      The carriage wasn't cut. It was in the aerial shots of Storybrooke, at the end. In the scene where they show the Marine Garage. It is hard to spot, tho. xD

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    • The Great Sorcerer wrote:
      Adamhl2000 wrote:
      One question, guys, is the EQ Palace in this ep the original EF one or the WR one? Because the last time we saw the WR EQ palace it was in ruins (610).
      It should be the original, but it could also be a mistake in production.

      If it's the original EF palace, then it makes sense to put serum!Regina in (we knew Lana filmed in serum!Regina costume) since she's living there. But logically and logistically it should be the WR one, and if so someone must have repaired it.

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    • 1. If all the realms are in the United Realms, does that mean WGrumpy and Grumpy and all the counterparts are all in the United Realms

      2. Zorro- it was nice to mention but it felt forced to please fans

      3. If Alice and Robin took a bean to Storybrooke but stayed in the past, it brings up Ana and Drizzy even though they are probably in the United Realms

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    • I was considering Wish Rumple's death and thought...

      So Rumple (Weaver) pulls out his heart and for whatever reason the darkness just goes away...since the darkness is connected between the two of them (which fortunately was explained in the previous episode), it caused Wish Rumple to lose his immortality and powers, and crumble and die because he should already be dead. This just brings up the question of Rumple (Weaver) not dying earlier when he was stripped of his own immortality...

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      I was considering Wish Rumple's death and thought...

      So Rumple (Weaver) pulls out his heart and for whatever reason the darkness just goes away...since the darkness is connected between the two of them (which fortunately was explained in the previous episode), it caused Wish Rumple to lose his immortality and powers, and crumble and die because he should already be dead. This just brings up the question of Rumple (Weaver) not dying earlier when he was stripped of his own immortality...

      I think it goes like this: Rumple still has some control over the DO powers (he's seen holding the dagger trying to break out of the snow globe). And when he pulls his heart out, it effectively destroys the DO powers *I hate calling it 'darkness' because it's generic*. He places it into WHook, reviving him at the cost of his own life. Not sure how this affects WRumple tho, since WRumple is not created by Jekyll's serum.

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    • Everyone should think simple of the realms included in the montage, If they want a representation of every realm appears on the screen, then they would choose the main reality first, over New realms or Wish realm. So it’s main Wonderland, main Evil Queen castle. Heck, maybe they could evem mash-up the versions, like two Evil Queen castle mashes into one, like in those Marvel/DC Crisis comics.

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    • What yalls thoughts did the curse send everyone from the wishrealm with the exception of snow and david back to the present?? Also, what about tiana, drew, hyperion heights people, zelena, chad????

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    • That was wonderful! I cried, Regina's speech at the end was heartbreaking ;-;

      She is the perfect example of good character development.

      So happy that Emma and Elsa can meet again now and also.. seems like Ivy and Anastasia got sucked in Storybrooke too, right? Time to live an happy ending with Jacinda as perfect sisters XD

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    • I loved everything! I just... really don't know how to comment this one, it's really hard for me, but I have this sense of happiness that the ending gave me, sure it was rushed and felt too short, I needed more, and the timeline wonkiness I'm sure that is resolved... the curse brought everyone at the same time, right? I'm glad they had Regina mention the "forgotten part of Maine" so no one will find out about them, I think this was a resolution to all the mess they did with realms and alternate realities, alternate versions of characters, etc... they had this curse solve every problem, I think so, is that right?

      And Emma literally stole the final scene like Regina did in the pilot, but as much as I prefer Emma, I do know the show is Regina, so she deserved that ending. The beauty of this finale is that Rumple and Regina get their happy ending, but if you are not an avid viewer who spoils everything for himself, you would be surprised of these endings, like, they are quite unique I have to say, it's endings made literally for them.

      Now, I did expect a couple of things that didn't happen: Nook dying? Everyone getting sent into the books and living their bad ending? Probably cut for time along with Frankenstein.

      But it seems like the writers stole my ideas by the way, Zorro? I know it's a joke but it's in my fan fiction, not as Lily's dad but I created a character like him named Z! But Zorro would have actually been a good casting choice. And obviously I have to sue the writers now, in March, I had this joke post on twitter that said "obviously the coronation is for Regina, she gets crowned Queen of the Universe", and boy I was absolutely right!

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    • I'm really hoping they go all out with the bluray release and stuff that thing with extras. If there are cut scenes, hopefully we see them there.

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    • The final proved that the show was mainly about Regina

      How kind regina became the evil queen and her path to become the good queen 

      Others were secondary characters

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    • I feel... bittersweet, I mean, now I don't have a reason to be hyped for fridays.

      I really hope Lana, Bex, Andrew, Alison and every single of the other cast members have a good career after OUAT! 

      Wait! I think... I didn't watch Once Upon a Time in Wonderland... I know what to do now!

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    • It's really sad to know that Adam & Eddy could have made the series finale 90 times better if the episode was longer! Most of the scenes were extremely rushed and the actors/actresses were propably told to deliver their lines in fast-forward =P Still, it was a great episode, and most importantly a great ending. The last 10 minutes of the episode made the entire 7th season worth seeing. I do wish that more characters could appear, though, since everyone we know from past seasons are now living in the United Realms and I wish the music was better (we've heard wonders from Mark!). The Season 6 Finale is still my preferable "Season Finale", but this one was a nice bonus. Now, can we please  get an Extended Version of 7x22!? 

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    • I really wish it was two hours long but I still loved it. The ending was very satisfying. Though I was really expecting to see the scene where Regina is wearing that cloak from the promotional pictures and she encounters the wish realm versions of Granny and the Dwarves. Wasn't there also supposed to be a scene in Storybrooke where Regina is wearing a purple dress and a grey jacket? Maybe in the deleted scenes in the DVD. Also during the coronation, why did Snow and David reject Regina's hug? I mean I know they did it so they can bow down to her but why not bow and then hug or hug and then bow? Other then that, it was a very satisfying end. Loved finally getting the answer about Lily's father though I really thought it was supposed to be the asian Dragon guy. Regina being crowned the Good Queen of the Realms was very beautiful and I loved the Swan Queen moment. Kinda wish Regina would've hugged Zelena when she was hugging everybody else but oh well. Again other then that, loved it even though it would've been 10x more epic if it was two hours long.

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    • About baby hope what is she??? 

      Is she a guardian like alice ?? 

      Alice's parents were hook a and gothek and gothek had magic and she was the mother nature

      Hope's parnts are hook and Emma and Emma has magic and she is the saviour

      So do you think hope has magic and if she does is it spacialspacial kind of magic or normal??

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      RubyRed31 wrote:
      I like the fact that they were able to bring back many of the original characters including Blue Fairy, 3/7 dwarfs, Granny, Archie, even Gepetto and kid August/Pinocchio.(although he should be much older). And that everyone was reunited and had a happy ending.
      4/7 dwarfs. Grumpy, Doc, Sneezy, and Sleepy were all in the episode. The other 3 also appeared in archive footage, so technically we saw all 7.

      Was he? I didn't notice him, but I only recongize Grumpy among the 7 dwarfs since he had the most screen time.  I rewatched to see who was listed as guest stars and didn't see David Avalon's name(he is listed on IMDB), but I did see Chris Gauthier's name (Smee) and found him briefly in the scene at the end where the camera pans the guests at the coronation, he's standing by Robin. Doc must have been behind them with the other 3. Thanks

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    • 8Rob wrote:

      -Doctor Whale wasn't in the episode

      I'm thinking Dr. Whale's scene was in the montage at the end, there is only one scene that wasn't from past episodes, where Emma gives birth and the doctor is holding baby Hope. He was turned sideways and looking down so I couldn't tell if that was him, but I assume it was. 

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    • Quick question when Regina united the realms does that include all the worlds; Wonderland, Oz, Neverland, etc. or just Storybroke and the Enchanted Forests and the Wish Realm and Hyperion Heights?

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    • Anubis16 wrote: Quick question when Regina united the realms does that include all the worlds; Wonderland, Oz, Neverland, etc. or just Storybroke and the Enchanted Forests and the Wish Realm and Hyperion Heights?

      All the realms. Realms with the dead and sleeping realms are unknown but all the regular ones like Camelot, Neverland, Arendelle, Dark Realm, and New Enchanted Forest are there.

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    • Nick Branson wrote:

      Anubis16 wrote: Quick question when Regina united the realms does that include all the worlds; Wonderland, Oz, Neverland, etc. or just Storybroke and the Enchanted Forests and the Wish Realm and Hyperion Heights?

      All the realms. Realms with the dead and sleeping realms are unknown but all the regular ones like Camelot, Neverland, Arendelle, Dark Realm, and New Enchanted Forest are there.

      In that case I guess Will and Annatasia are reunited. I do wonder is the Land Without Color still without color in one section or did the curse give it color?

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    • Is nobody gonna point out that Ashley (OG Ella) runs a daycare now???? Lots of possibilities...

      Also, how was Robyn 5 when Henry just graduated (2018)? Wasn't Henry like 14 at the end of S6 (so then that took ended in 2014). Shouldn't she be 4?

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    • So, if Olympus is there, can Rumple and Belle leave for a moment and visit Gideon, Regina, etc?

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    • Leroiblanc wrote: Is nobody gonna point out that Ashley (OG Ella) runs a daycare now???? Lots of possibilities...

      Also, how was Robyn 5 when Henry just graduated (2018)? Wasn't Henry like 14 at the end of S6 (so then that took ended in 2014). Shouldn't she be 4?

      Ashley had a daycare class I. 4.

      Robin was born in 2013. It’s 2018. So it’s 5. (Writers state that season 5 is 2 years after the Cursed 28 years.) Plus, the writers like to round.

      Henry, I like to insigne that Regina aged hin op AMD ski-oord him a grade with the fake memories as they start smudgin his age after 3B.

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    • RubyRed31 wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      RubyRed31 wrote:
      I like the fact that they were able to bring back many of the original characters including Blue Fairy, 3/7 dwarfs, Granny, Archie, even Gepetto and kid August/Pinocchio.(although he should be much older). And that everyone was reunited and had a happy ending.
      4/7 dwarfs. Grumpy, Doc, Sneezy, and Sleepy were all in the episode. The other 3 also appeared in archive footage, so technically we saw all 7.
      Was he? I didn't notice him, but I only recongize Grumpy among the 7 dwarfs since he had the most screen time.  I rewatched to see who was listed as guest stars and didn't see David Avalon's name(he is listed on IMDB), but I did see Chris Gauthier's name (Smee) and found him briefly in the scene at the end where the camera pans the guests at the coronation, he's standing by Robin. Doc must have been behind them with the other 3. Thanks

      I'm not sure if Doc was in the coronation scene, but he was in the scene at the beginning of the episode with Alice and Robin. As for the credit, he is a costar, not a guest star, so he wouldn't be listed with the guest stars in the beginning of the episode.

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    • RubyRed31 wrote:
      8Rob wrote:

      -Doctor Whale wasn't in the episode

      I'm thinking Dr. Whale's scene was in the montage at the end, there is only one scene that wasn't from past episodes, where Emma gives birth and the doctor is holding baby Hope. He was turned sideways and looking down so I couldn't tell if that was him, but I assume it was. 

      Nope, that was Emma giving birth to Henry from a Season 3 flashback. The doctor was just a costar that was in that episode, so Whale didn't appear.

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    • I have no words. I have mostly feelings. God I balled like a baby in this series finale, not only because of all the insane, amazing, wonderful feels but also that the show was ending. I couldn't wrap my head around this fact and it'll take me a while to accept it and move on.  I absolutely loved how they tackled that season finale. I broke down when I saw Rumple's sacrifice for everyone, this time he was unselfish, brave and accepted that one must do the right thing because it's right (how simple, yet beautiful) and not for a reward, something that the cowardly Rumple would've wanted. He sacrified himself at no price. And what was even more touching, was that he gave his pure heart to revive Rogers. Even the relationship between Rumple and Hook came full circle. Rumple herocially sacrified himself to defeat his darker self, save his former enemy and everyone else, despite thinking he would never get to Belle. But the best part was...he did! He was reunited with beautiful, lovely Belle. And, I was so happy that Alice and Robin are going to get married! It was the perfect, well-developed romance this year. I think they really showed the finality and grandeur of the end, which I think was brought on by Regina/Roni uniting all the realms. I thought that was beyond beautiful. Plus, the visual effects were stunning and it was exciting to see all the magical worlds being housed in the small town of Maine. It's like all the realms of story belonged in Storybrooke. It was the perfect move. I loved that they saved Regina's happy ending/second chance for the end. Also, it was adorable to see Emma and Hook's little family and baby Hope. I was touched that they redeemed Wish Henry (now a deputy sheriff!) and that he, along with OG Henry, walked Regina to her coronation. I got goosebumps during Emma and Hook's entrance - everything the "Sorry I'm late" callback, Emma wearing her red leather jacket over her beautiful gown, Emma carrying Baby Hope's diaper bag, Hook carrying baby Hope and looking slightly messy, and Emma's theme that played during their entrance. I absolutely loved her and Regina's "Madame Mayor" and "Miss Swan" exchange, which gave me bittersweet memories. Emma was present and happy to see Regina getting her happy ending AKA second chance. I think Regina's second chance, as she promised, is her new story without the Evil Queen. Regina being crowned the Good Queen, especially by Snow White, was moving as it shows the growth and development of their relationship. Initially, she was the one who needed hope. She always wanted to be the hero of her own story and be happy. Now, her wish is fulfilled as she now starts a new story as the Good Queen with all her loved ones together. She embraces life's adventures and obstacles and knows that they will overcome it all with hope! In short, I loved that Regina finally accepted that it wasn't a happy ending, but a second chance because the adventure and stories continue. The show came full circle, ended where it started but different in that the characters have evolved, villains redeemed and heroes living out their happily ever afters. That's what Eddy and Adam meant by saying that Once's happy endings were about the "journey" and not the destination for the characters. This message of hope has been the heartbeat of the show and was truly highlighted to the end in the finale. It was beautifully executed and the cast gave wonderful, fabulous and absolutely impeccable performances! 

      And I know that many people and fans would have many more suggestions and opinions about how the show ended, but this is it. We must accept it as a beautiful ending, where many stories have been wrapped up and it is left open-ended as the adventure continues! It lives on in the minds of us, the fans, as well as the cast and crew. It's going to take me a while, but I do not wish to leave Storybrooke. I will miss you Once Upon a Time...<3

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      RubyRed31 wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      RubyRed31 wrote:
      I like the fact that they were able to bring back many of the original characters including Blue Fairy, 3/7 dwarfs, Granny, Archie, even Gepetto and kid August/Pinocchio.(although he should be much older). And that everyone was reunited and had a happy ending.
      4/7 dwarfs. Grumpy, Doc, Sneezy, and Sleepy were all in the episode. The other 3 also appeared in archive footage, so technically we saw all 7.
      Was he? I didn't notice him, but I only recongize Grumpy among the 7 dwarfs since he had the most screen time.  I rewatched to see who was listed as guest stars and didn't see David Avalon's name(he is listed on IMDB), but I did see Chris Gauthier's name (Smee) and found him briefly in the scene at the end where the camera pans the guests at the coronation, he's standing by Robin. Doc must have been behind them with the other 3. Thanks
      I'm not sure if Doc was in the coronation scene, but he was in the scene at the beginning of the episode with Alice and Robin. As for the credit, he is a costar, not a guest star, so he wouldn't be listed with the guest stars in the beginning of the episode.

      Hi ok so like I said I can't really recognize the other dwarfs and I didn't look closely enough apparently(at their pickaxes), but I rewatched it. And you are right it was Doc, Grumpy, and Sleepy at the beginning. So it was Sneezy that I meant to say was missing that I hadn't seen and who was listed in the end credits. He is the one you see in the coronation scene, but barely. I also missed David Avalon's name at the end, must have been covered by the MUTE sign. Thanks for clearing that up for me. 

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    • When did they show Sabine?

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    • Lorisa214 wrote:
      When did they show Sabine?

      In the coronation

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    • Lorisa214 wrote:
      When did they show Sabine?

      When Regina walked into the coronation.

      Bonus: The first aerial shot of Storybrooke as part of the UR showed Tiana's food truck opening. Looks like her beignets are about go to far!

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    • Adamhl2000 wrote:

      Lorisa214 wrote:
      When did they show Sabine?

      When Regina walked into the coronation.

      Bonus: The first aerial shot of Storybrooke as part of the UR showed Tiana's food truck opening. Looks like her beignets are about go to far!

      Oh thanks for getting back to me :)

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    • Is it bad that the thing that made me go "squee" the most wasn't Captain Swan/Emma (although that was Fabulous with a capital F) it was Hope holding Henry's jacket? I have had so many headcanons about Hope and Henry (or Cygnet Believer as we call them) so that made me squee a hard.

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    • That said, not a fan of the idea of realms merging. The idea of multiple realms existing out there and endless possibilities is kind of what made the show so magical to me anyway.

      Also, what about realms that need different climates, like how Agrabah is a desert and Arendelle is frozen?

      And I don't like Regina being crowned Ultimate Queen. I think the title should be Snow's or Emma's to make the story come full circle, with the lost/disowned princess reclaiming her kingdom.

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    • Farerb wrote:
      What a lackluster finale for a show that started so strong and devolved into a hot mess.

      You can always join us in the negative thoughts thread

      http://onceuponatime.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:381947

      We have cookies :)

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    • Aine1989 wrote:
      That said, not a fan of the idea of realms merging. The idea of multiple realms existing out there and endless possibilities is kind of what made the show so magical to me anyway.

      Also, what about realms that need different climates, like how Agrabah is a desert and Arendelle is frozen?

      I loved the idea of the realms merging, because I think its what Storybrooke represented, in its beginnng, but I wasn't a fan of how it was brought up. I love that Regina did it, because the concept is cool, but my main issue is Regina had no reason to. I wouldve liked that she merged them because maybe they were in danger (like the S6 finale) or something that validated such a drastic action.

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    • Aine1989 wrote:
      That said, not a fan of the idea of realms merging. The idea of multiple realms existing out there and endless possibilities is kind of what made the show so magical to me anyway.

      Exactly. I don't really know what was Regina thinking there. 

      Each realm was magical in its own way. Now they are just neighborhoods inside Storybrooke

      Seriously, someone needs to break that curse and fix that mess

      .#MaketheRealmsGreatAgain

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    • As I said, between realms and alternate realities they created a kinda messy universe, so the last curse did a bit of a clean up, merging everything and bringing them back to the same time.

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    • Aine1989 wrote: And I don't like Regina being crowned Ultimate Queen. I think the title should be Snow's or Emma's to make the story come full circle, with the lost/disowned princess reclaiming her kingdom.

      I've been thinking about it.. Wouldn't it be great if in the end, Regina magically created another two crowns for Snow & Emma, and all three of them could have been Queens of the United Realms? It would not only be original and clever, but would also honor these 3 characters who were the leading ladies for 6 seasons! =D

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    • I kind of wish they worked Lucy and Cinderella in some more... also, question, why did Robin/Alice need past-Zelena?

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    • Not sure why my other post was deleted, but I was saying, the finale sure does give new meaning to Cora declaring baby Regina the future "Queen."

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    • For anyone wondering if they are in the futrue or past all you have to do is take into account Emma/Hook child is still a baby and Neal is still young. If they were in the future Hope would be older than Lucy and Neal would be older than Robin. All the people from HH which is in the past simply came to past Storybrooke. Emma got pregnant not long after Henry left. Look at it as an alternate Timeline. They went back and affected the past thus creating another timeline but the otherone still exist. Atleast this is how I chose to look at it. Time travel 101 never think to much about it because it never ends well. They way I see it is there should atleast be:

      Three Reginas:SerumQueen,Past Regina,Future Regina.and Maybe Wishverse Queen

      Three Henry's: WishHenry,Futrue Henry, Past Henry

      Doubes of everyone else from HH:Except for Fallicer and Coven of eight memebrs there should only be one of them now. 



      I love Regina's qoute about this not being the end but the beginning. I think so many new and interesting Stories could be told via books. 

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    • Jim OUATcollins wrote:
      Aine1989 wrote: And I don't like Regina being crowned Ultimate Queen. I think the title should be Snow's or Emma's to make the story come full circle, with the lost/disowned princess reclaiming her kingdom.
      I've been thinking about it.. Wouldn't it be great if in the end, Regina magically created another two crowns for Snow & Emma, and all three of them could have been Queens of the United Realms? It would not only be original and clever, but would also honor these 3 characters who were the leading ladies for 6 seasons! =D

      I kind of like that idea. I think Regina's character arc was to go from someone who stole a position of power to one who gained it fairly, but I would have preferred it if she gave the crown to Snow, the person she took it from in the first place. It makes it so that it doesn't look like Regina's happy ending is power and would be really good for her redemption. Of course Regina's happy ending is being given a second chance, which makes sense for her character, but like Aine said, story-wise it's better for Snow or Emma to have the title. 

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    • Snow can be elected and endorsed by Regina after a term or two :)

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    • Dillon7272 wrote:
      Snow can be elected and endorsed by Regina after a term or two :)

      Basically what I'm thinking

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    • To be fair, I only think the royalty voted, maybe nobility, seeing how secretive it was.

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    • Aine1989 wrote:
      That said, not a fan of the idea of realms merging. The idea of multiple realms existing out there and endless possibilities is kind of what made the show so magical to me anyway.

      Also, what about realms that need different climates, like how Agrabah is a desert and Arendelle is frozen?

      And I don't like Regina being crowned Ultimate Queen. I think the title should be Snow's or Emma's to make the story come full circle, with the lost/disowned princess reclaiming her kingdom.

      I felt the same way, but since this is the end (for now) I'm okay with it. If they ever continue it, maybe a curse that separates the realms will come into play, even if it's just a barrier between them.

      As for Regina...I'm fine with it. I have issues with her as a character, and she still never addressed a lot of the wrong she's done. I'm glad she faced some (small) consequences at least this episode with Wish Henry. But I guess if she had an apology tour it could take a whole season. She at least seems to have remembered Graham in her flashbacks (If those were supposed to be mostly hers). 

      The reason I wouldn't be for Snow or Emma having the throne, even if they deserve it more, is because I do not think either want it or would stick with it.

      Snow has some experience in leading and has never seemed to be enthusiastic about it, espoecially in times of peace. She and Charming settled down and I think that was all they wanted. Emma has no experience save for the few missions she's led and I know she and Hook both want nothing to do with it outside of maybe being advisers.

      Regina does want it. Regina has governed both SB and EF and has learned the power of forgiveness. She's tempered her darkness and though there are some stains she won't ever be rid of, I think she's honestly become a good person. So of everyone we've seen in the realms who still lives, I think she does fit the bill nicely. Not saying I'd vote for her if other options were on the table. XD  ​​​​If Snow wanted it, I'd vote for her or Charming or Henry even. Not sure if I'd vote Emma...I love her, she's my favorite character, but I don't know that she'd be able to handle it. I can see her getting frustrated and dropping it. Plus she needs her time to be Hope's mother. How exciting is it that this child is getting both parents in it's life and is surrounded by so much love? Nothing against single parent families at all. But this is truly special when it happens. And Hook and Emma will be wonderful parents! 

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      Should we put W!Grumpy and W!Doc on the cast list as well? They were seen briefly at the end of the episode. It's not really clear, but some BTS pics have proven those figures standing outside Rollin' Bayou are them.

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    • Aine1989 wrote:

      And I don't like Regina being crowned Ultimate Queen. I think the title should be Snow's or Emma's to make the story come full circle, with the lost/disowned princess reclaiming her kingdom.

      But Emma didn't want to be queen, I think that would be forced. As for Snow, I think she is a queen in the shadow, she still is the queen of her realm while Regina is kind of first among others, the personification of the United Realms concept. I think that her being the one that brings everyone together and is aknowledged for her changing and her efforts in being a hero is the stry come full circle just like Emma being the Sheriff and Snow doing her speech about hope and family in the last season finale. 

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    • Timeline explanations after the finale:

      - Robin grew up fast because of magic onion rings that sped up Zelena's pregnancy, so that's why she was older in Storybrooke already, same thing happened to Alice btw.

      - Time runs faster in New Fairy Tale Land, so Henry grew up, Robin grew up more, Regina and Zelena grew old but kept themselves young via magic beauty spells. While Emma was still pregnant in Storybrooke. So this all happens in the future, post 2017.

      - The curse cast by Regina-Drizella-Gothel brings them back in time to the present, Henry's graduation and before Emma is pregnant, some years passed since season 6 finale so Neal is 8, Robin is 5. The call between Henrys happens. This is back in 2017, before Henry leaves Storybrooke.

      - This creates doubles for the present day-Storybrooke and future-New Fairy Tale Land/Hyperion Heights.

      - The doubles are eventually eliminated when Regina casts the light curse and brings everyone to the same present, in 2018 I believe, hence why there aren't any duplicates running around, there is only one Zelena/Kelly who has magic again (regained in 7x11's flashback).

      Did I get this right?

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote: Time runs faster in New Fairy Tale Land, so Henry grew up, Robin grew up more, Regina and Zelena grew old but kept themselves young via magic beauty spells. While Emma was still pregnant in Storybrooke. So this all happens in the future, post 2017.

      So how old are Henry & Regina supposed to be? 

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    • Jim OUATcollins wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote: Time runs faster in New Fairy Tale Land, so Henry grew up, Robin grew up more, Regina and Zelena grew old but kept themselves young via magic beauty spells. While Emma was still pregnant in Storybrooke. So this all happens in the future, post 2017.

      So how old are Henry & Regina supposed to be? 

      Regina should be fifty biologically, while Henry is 30 something.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:

      Jim OUATcollins wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote: Time runs faster in New Fairy Tale Land, so Henry grew up, Robin grew up more, Regina and Zelena grew old but kept themselves young via magic beauty spells. While Emma was still pregnant in Storybrooke. So this all happens in the future, post 2017.

      So how old are Henry & Regina supposed to be? 

      Regina should be fifty biologically, while Henry is 30 something.

      Without the “Did not age for twenty eight years in Storybrooke” stuff, Regina would be 79 or 80 biologically.

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    • RickyYG wrote:

      2) "Homecoming" - Don't get me wrong, it was a good episode but not as a part 1 of a series finale. 

      3) Missing characters at the coronation

      I 100% agree with your views on "Homecoming", it was extremely weak for a "series finale" even if it was only the first part. As for the missing characters in 7x22, though, I think it was due to the actors/actresses unavailability. But even if they could fit more characters at Regina's coronation, I would like to see old characters (such as the "Frozen" gang, the Queens of Darkness, the Camelot group etc.), rather than season 7 ones.

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    • Jim OUATcollins wrote:

      RickyYG wrote:

      2) "Homecoming" - Don't get me wrong, it was a good episode but not as a part 1 of a series finale. 

      3) Missing characters at the coronation

      I 100% agree with your views on "Homecoming", it was extremely weak for a "series finale" even if it was only the first part. As for the missing characters in 7x22, though, I think it was due to the actors/actresses unavailability. But even if they could fit more characters at Regina's coronation, I would like to see old characters (such as the "Frozen" gang, the Queens of Darkness, the Camelot group etc.), rather than season 7 ones.

      I think I saw Anastasia.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      Jim OUATcollins wrote:

      RickyYG wrote:

      2) "Homecoming" - Don't get me wrong, it was a good episode but not as a part 1 of a series finale. 

      3) Missing characters at the coronation

      I 100% agree with your views on "Homecoming", it was extremely weak for a "series finale" even if it was only the first part. As for the missing characters in 7x22, though, I think it was due to the actors/actresses unavailability. But even if they could fit more characters at Regina's coronation, I would like to see old characters (such as the "Frozen" gang, the Queens of Darkness, the Camelot group etc.), rather than season 7 ones.
      I think I saw Anastasia.

      Yael Yurman and Adelaide Kane are not listed for this ep, so no, they didn't appear.

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    • Is there anything that surprised people. For me what surprised me is the Rumple's undoing boy part being mentioned again. The writers said they would mention it in the finale hotseat and so I thought they would but then Eskaver told me that it would not feature and the writers often mentioned stuff they would not bring up so then when it came up I was quite surprised and happy!

      Eskaver:

      WendyDarling19 wrote: So is the whole undoing thing that 'the boy' will be the one to defeat WRumple or will it be that 'the boy' will be the one to 'undo' the darkness and relieve Rumple of his dark one powers so he can get back to Belle. I wonder.....

      I would ignore that. The writers said it was over in season 3. Asked between now and then, they would say the same thing. Now, they say, maybe...and I say it still doesn’t apply in this season.

      What surprised you?

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    • I've always thought the interpretation of the prophecy as Henry was to be Rumple's undoing as a redherring. In season 3, I thought it was Pan that was the boy that was Rumple's undoing, with Rumple uniting with Baelfire and had to kill himself to kill Pan. In this season 7, I still thought the interpretation of the prophecy as Henry was to be Rumple's undoing as a redherring. Though one could made an argument that Wish Henry failure to kill Regina could be unseen as undoing Rumple. i.e. give Weaver Rumple enough time to pull out his own heart to crush it to kill Wish Rumpe and (with Nook dying) the final motive to give Nook his heart. But interestingly, I interpret  it now, as Weaver Rumple is actually the boy in the prophecy that undid Rumple's undoing. Weaver Rumple embrace his inner Savior, that he was when he was a boy, to kill Wish Rumple. So the boy was Rumple himself.

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    • Technically, had Rumple killed Henry way back or never let Regina bring him to SB he would have walked a different path. His undoing, maybe. But I say it was the DO's undoing, not Rumple's.  Henry enabled Rumple to get his happy ending.

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    • By the way, did anybody else find it hillarious that Emma didn't give a sh*t about Wish Realm Henry in the Coronation scene? x-D

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    • I was very touched when Snow declaring Regina 'The Good Queen'. You could literally see Ginny holding back her tears. Or was that intended?

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    • Gandalf7000 wrote:
      I was very touched when Snow declaring Regina 'The Good Queen'. You could literally see Ginny holding back her tears. Or was that intended?

      Both Ginny & Lana have said that she was crying for hours that day. It was definitely not on purpose. 

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    • One thing that should have been different is that not even one scene from S7 appeared in the montage. That wasn't nice. We haven't had ANY S7 character appear

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      One thing that should have been different is that not even one scene from S7 appeared in the montage. That wasn't nice. We haven't had ANY S7 character appear

      Yeah. Also, there wasn't any scene about the spin-off

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    • Matheus1234zx wrote:
      FrancisPaul wrote:
      One thing that should have been different is that not even one scene from S7 appeared in the montage. That wasn't nice. We haven't had ANY S7 character appear
      Yeah. Also, there wasn't any scene about the spin-off

      Emma and Killian weren't in any of it either

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      Matheus1234zx wrote:
      FrancisPaul wrote:
      One thing that should have been different is that not even one scene from S7 appeared in the montage. That wasn't nice. We haven't had ANY S7 character appear
      Yeah. Also, there wasn't any scene about the spin-off
      Emma and Killian weren't in any of it either

      But that's a positive thing! (JUST KIDDING) or not

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      Matheus1234zx wrote:
      FrancisPaul wrote:
      One thing that should have been different is that not even one scene from S7 appeared in the montage. That wasn't nice. We haven't had ANY S7 character appear
      Yeah. Also, there wasn't any scene about the spin-off
      Emma and Killian weren't in any of it either

      Killian was in it, with Liam.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Leroiblanc wrote:
      Matheus1234zx wrote:
      FrancisPaul wrote:
      One thing that should have been different is that not even one scene from S7 appeared in the montage. That wasn't nice. We haven't had ANY S7 character appear
      Yeah. Also, there wasn't any scene about the spin-off
      Emma and Killian weren't in any of it either
      Killian was in it, with Liam.

      And Emma was also, but I think he was talking about CaptainSwan

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      One thing that should have been different is that not even one scene from S7 appeared in the montage. That wasn't nice. We haven't had ANY S7 character appear

      Hey, 7 seasons is a lot. And most people tuning into this finale are only into the original cast and the first 6 seasons. The Facebook comments throughout S7 has been very vicious, especially to Jacinda and Lucy.

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      One thing that should have been different is that not even one scene from S7 appeared in the montage. That wasn't nice. We haven't had ANY S7 character appear

      You know, besides Alice and Robin who were the 2 majorly recurring "heroes," no guest stars from solely season 7 appeared in the finale, period. 

      They should've at least included Naveen. He would've only appeared in the coronation scene next to Tiana, but I mean, why not if they were going to have random wish characters attend?

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    • I think we have to remeber that the show is on a limitied budget (though it would've been nice if they had an upgrade, considering it was their finale, and they only found the series was ending in the mid-season break).

      I felt like "Homecoming" was for all the fan-favorutie guest characters that they wanted to be there, and the finale was for all the characters, that had to be there, like Gepetto and the Blue Fairy, who were there from Day 1.

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    • I haven't seen anybody else bring it up, but why were WishHenry's knights dressed as Black Knights? In S6 when Wish Realm first appeared, the knights of the Charmings' kingdom were in their tradition attire.

      I guess they wanted to make WishHenry more menacing, so they reused the Black Knight costumes. But they are inherently associated with the Evil Queen, and based on his experiences with Regina, WishHenry would surely want to distance himself from her.

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    • NickM98 wrote:
      I haven't seen anybody else bring it up, but why were WishHenry's knights dressed as Black Knights? In S6 when Wish Realm first appeared, the knights of the Charmings' kingdom were in their tradition attire.

      I guess they wanted to make WishHenry more menacing, so they reused the Black Knight costumes. But they are inherently associated with the Evil Queen, and based on his experiences with Regina, WishHenry would surely want to distance himself from her.

      I didn't notice until you brought it up. That is definitely a goof or at least a major change in WR history compared to OG history that should be noted, because there is a WEQ who lived in a WEQPalace and tried to cast a WDarkCurse so WBlackKnights are hers, not the Charmings'.

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:

      NickM98 wrote:
      I haven't seen anybody else bring it up, but why were WishHenry's knights dressed as Black Knights? In S6 when Wish Realm first appeared, the knights of the Charmings' kingdom were in their tradition attire.

      I guess they wanted to make WishHenry more menacing, so they reused the Black Knight costumes. But they are inherently associated with the Evil Queen, and based on his experiences with Regina, WishHenry would surely want to distance himself from her.

      I didn't notice until you brought it up. That is definitely a goof or at least a major change in WR history compared to OG history that should be noted, because there is a WEQ who lived in a WEQPalace and tried to cast a WDarkCurse so WBlackKnights are hers, not the Charmings'.

      It could be that they were seen as the royal guard for Leopold’s kingdom post-banishment.

      I recall Snow not really caring that there were suddenly black knights guarding the castle, just that she could tell that the Hunstman wasn’t one of the usual guards. They were Regina’s personal guard but I can see them employing them afterwards.

      The real issue is they didn’t really explain it, just had them appear as if they were always there.

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    • Wait wait,

      if the curse brought everyone back in time as well, does that mean in the Storybrooke section of the United Realms there will be two Robins (young and adult) and two Zelenas? Does young!Robin blink out of existence?

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    • Aine1989 wrote:
      Wait wait,

      if the curse brought everyone back in time as well, does that mean in the Storybrooke section of the United Realms there will be two Robins (young and adult) and two Zelenas? Does young!Robin blink out of existence?

      We're left to assume (sighs) that the United Realms cruse brought them back to the future and stuff ig...

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      Aine1989 wrote:
      Wait wait,

      if the curse brought everyone back in time as well, does that mean in the Storybrooke section of the United Realms there will be two Robins (young and adult) and two Zelenas? Does young!Robin blink out of existence?

      We're left to assume (sighs) that the United Realms cruse brought them back to the future and stuff ig...

      I think it's safe to assume that the United Realms curse brought them back, since Zelena - who i'm pretty sure it's Kelly - uses magic at the coronation, and past Zelena doesn't have magic.

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Leroiblanc wrote:
      Aine1989 wrote:
      Wait wait,

      if the curse brought everyone back in time as well, does that mean in the Storybrooke section of the United Realms there will be two Robins (young and adult) and two Zelenas? Does young!Robin blink out of existence?

      We're left to assume (sighs) that the United Realms cruse brought them back to the future and stuff ig...
      I think it's safe to assume that the United Realms curse brought them back, since Zelena - who i'm pretty sure it's Kelly - uses magic at the coronation, and past Zelena doesn't have magic.

      I mean, I guess I should rephrase that since they made it pretty clear this did return the future-ish, since Neal was older, the baby was born, and Zelena had magic. But we're still left to assume the other time travel complications were solved. 

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      FrancisPaul wrote:

      NickM98 wrote:
      I haven't seen anybody else bring it up, but why were WishHenry's knights dressed as Black Knights? In S6 when Wish Realm first appeared, the knights of the Charmings' kingdom were in their tradition attire.

      I guess they wanted to make WishHenry more menacing, so they reused the Black Knight costumes. But they are inherently associated with the Evil Queen, and based on his experiences with Regina, WishHenry would surely want to distance himself from her.

      I didn't notice until you brought it up. That is definitely a goof or at least a major change in WR history compared to OG history that should be noted, because there is a WEQ who lived in a WEQPalace and tried to cast a WDarkCurse so WBlackKnights are hers, not the Charmings'.

      It could be that they were seen as the royal guard for Leopold’s kingdom post-banishment.

      I recall Snow not really caring that there were suddenly black knights guarding the castle, just that she could tell that the Hunstman wasn’t one of the usual guards. They were Regina’s personal guard but I can see them employing them afterwards.

      The real issue is they didn’t really explain it, just had them appear as if they were always there.

      After EQ was banished, she kept her Black Knights for her palace and the immediate surrounding land, but I always viewed it as the rest of her kingdom was inherited by Snow and annexed into the Charmings' kingdom (therefore guarded by the Charmings' knights).

      In the Wish Realm, since she fled the kingdom completely, I presumed that the entirety of her kingdom was annexed including the palace, which is why the Charmings imprisoned Rumple there versus the dwarf mines. WishQueen's kingdom was permanently dismantled and her guards disbanded or imprisoned. That was 28+ years ago, the Black Knights logically should not exist any more.

      They didn't explain how the WishPalace was suddenly repaired, but at least it could be assumed that Regina and past Zelena used their magic to fix it so that the heroes could use it as a base of operations. There is no logical explanation as to why the Black Knights appear in the Wish Realm.

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    • Do anyone has some idea on who the heck portrayed Prince Neal in 722?

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Do anyone has some idea on who the heck portrayed Prince Neal in 722?

      I remember he was not credited, so nope, I have no idea.

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    • OUAT was without a doubt my favorite show! I'm going to miss everyone, including the people of season seven. The only thing I didn't like was the whole Alice-and-Robin thing. It made me very uncomfortable, and I think they should've stuck with the classic Alice-and-Mad Hatter thing. Other than that, I loved it.

      I always knew Rumple would get his happy ending even when he was evil. I'm glad he finally did. RIP Rumple...

      Regina was HISTORICAL! She was absolutely legendary and awe-inspiring! I'm going to miss her most of all.

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    • Flare Warden wrote:
      The only thing I didn't like was the whole Alice-and-Robin thing. It made me very uncomfortable, and I think they should've stuck with the classic Alice-and-Mad Hatter thing. Other than that, I loved it.

      Alice and Mad Hatter?? Also, why does that made you uncofortable??

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    • Watching two women act like that should make anyone feel uncomfortable. It's just not necessary at all.

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    • Watching two women act like that should make anyone feel uncomfortable. It's just not necessary at all.

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    • Flare Warden wrote: Watching two women act like that should make anyone feel uncomfortable. It's just not necessary at all.

      Act like what?

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    • Flare Warden wrote:
      Watching two women act like that should make anyone feel uncomfortable. It's just not necessary at all.

      This is homophobia

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    • Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Flare Warden wrote:
      Watching two women act like that should make anyone feel uncomfortable. It's just not necessary at all.
      This is homophobia

      Definitely is.

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    • Call it what you want, but I'm entitled to my opinion. I'll wear that title with pride. However, I'm open to agree to disagree.

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    • Flare Warden wrote:
      Call it what you want, but I'm entitled to my opinion. I'll wear that title with pride. However, I'm open to agree to disagree.

      Just, can you please explain to us why does that make you feel uncomfortable??

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    • Flare Warden wrote: Call it what you want, but I'm entitled to my opinion. I'll wear that title with pride. However, I'm open to agree to disagree.

      Sure, you can wear your title with pride... but not on our forums.

      Racism, homophobia and all kind of discriminations are not allowed on the wiki. It has never been an open point to discussion, even for the Rant & Rave section.

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    • And in Pride month of all the months...

      And saying you are proudly a homophobe is disgusting.

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    • Rather than take this any further, I'm going to do the right thing and leave. I've said my peace and I'll leave it at that. Have a nice day, the both of you. :)

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    • Flare Warden wrote:
      Rather than take this any further, I'm going to do the right thing and leave. I've said my peace and I'll leave it at that. Have a nice day, the both of you. :)

      Good riddance.

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    • Aine1989 wrote:

      And saying you are proudly a homophobe is disgusting.

      Disgusting is only the beginning... This is disrespect to the LGBT community of the wikia....

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    • Flare Warden wrote:
      Rather than take this any further, I'm going to do the right thing and leave. I've said my peace and I'll leave it at that. Have a nice day, the both of you. :)

      Please do it quickly :)

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    • Aine1989 wrote:
      And in Pride month of all the months...

      And saying you are proudly a homophobe is disgusting.

      Absolutely right. 

      XXI Century and this kind of people still exists... that's what it's disgusting.

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    • Flare Warden wrote: Watching two women act like that should make anyone feel uncomfortable. It's just not necessary at all.

      Flare Warden wrote: Rather than take this any further, I'm going to do the right thing and leave. I've said my peace and I'll leave it at that. Have a nice day, the both of you. :)

      In the inspiring words of Zelena:

      "[Flare], dear, we're trying to [have an open and respectful discussion without hate] it's good for the [community]. Please go you're ruining [our] qi!

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    • Let’s not discuss this topic any further.

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    • I have a question about the timeline (sorry). The characters were sent back in time. So WRumple and WHenry and all those, from the WRealm were from the past. The last scene took place in present, so why wasn't WHenry older? (Time can't move slower in that realm, because we know that isn't true from 6x10 ad 6x11)

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    • “Some time has past” which means whatever.

      It’s possible that Regina simply took WHenry to the present with her.

      So, OG timeline ended in 3x20.

      Alt timeline ended in Drizella’s curse in which they were in a timeline loop or bootstrap paradox.

      Now, that are in a New timeline. To recap:

      OG: Snow Falls happens, Regina executed Marian.

      Alt: Snow Drifts happens, Zelena kills Marian. All thing still are held true in Alt even the HH stuff.

      New: United Realms happens and stuff.

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    • Question, if Regina casting the curse made her go to present day, why is Hope still a baby. If the timeline worked out, Hope would be a toddler.

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    • X-Men Are Cool wrote: Question, if Regina casting the curse made her go to present day, why is Hope still a baby. If the timeline worked out, Hope would be a toddler.

      Present day Hope could still be a baby as NEF time might be faster.

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    • 8Rob wrote: They deleted a lot of stuff

      -The Evil Queen's carriage scene was cut

      -We know Lana filmed wearing an Evil Queen outfit (probably the Serum Queen)

      -Doctor Whale wasn't in the episode

      I wanted really much to see the doctor's ending and I was very disappointed that we didn't see him... Neither him nor his realm :(

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    • How did Tiana get to storybrooke from the past real world?

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    • Lbatten wrote:
      How did Tiana get to storybrooke from the past real world?

      What do you mean?

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    • Tiana was in Hyperion Heights with Naven in the past Seatle, when Alice and Tilly left, how did her, Naven, and Zelena get to Storybrooke

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    • Lbatten wrote:
      Tiana was in Hyperion Heights with Naven in the past Seatle, when Alice and Tilly left, how did her, Naven, and Zelena get to Storybrooke

      I think that's just one of those things that the writers just decided to leave to your own answer because of the show ending.

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    • What do you think?

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    • Lbatten wrote:
      What do you think?

      Well the way I am writing it into my Season 8, the United Realms curse brought everyone from Hyperion Heights and the realms of story into the United Realms. Zelena and Chad found them and joined them. Then, Roni was able to bring herself and Henry and the others to where they are supposed to be in the timeline.

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    • Flare Warden wrote:
      OUAT was without a doubt my favorite show! I'm going to miss everyone, including the people of season seven. The only thing I didn't like was the whole Alice-and-Robin thing. It made me very uncomfortable, and I think they should've stuck with the classic Alice-and-Mad Hatter thing. Other than that, I loved it.

      I always knew Rumple would get his happy ending even when he was evil. I'm glad he finally did. RIP Rumple...

      Regina was HISTORICAL! She was absolutely legendary and awe-inspiring! I'm going to miss her most of all.

      I know everyone commented on the anti-LGBT view, but I'd just like to point out I find it hilarious that they are considering Alice and the Mad Hatter a "classic thing". Like they have nothing romantic in any version I've ever seen, from the book source material to any sort of adaptation. How is that a "classic thing"?

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Flare Warden wrote:
      OUAT was without a doubt my favorite show! I'm going to miss everyone, including the people of season seven. The only thing I didn't like was the whole Alice-and-Robin thing. It made me very uncomfortable, and I think they should've stuck with the classic Alice-and-Mad Hatter thing. Other than that, I loved it.

      I always knew Rumple would get his happy ending even when he was evil. I'm glad he finally did. RIP Rumple...

      Regina was HISTORICAL! She was absolutely legendary and awe-inspiring! I'm going to miss her most of all.

      I know everyone commented on the anit-LGBT view, but I'd just like to point out I find it hilarious that they are considering Alice and the Mad Hatter a "classic thing". Like they have nothing romantic in any version I've ever seen, from the book source material to any sort of adaptation. How is that a "classic thing"?

      Yeah! Me too

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Flare Warden wrote:
      OUAT was without a doubt my favorite show! I'm going to miss everyone, including the people of season seven. The only thing I didn't like was the whole Alice-and-Robin thing. It made me very uncomfortable, and I think they should've stuck with the classic Alice-and-Mad Hatter thing. Other than that, I loved it.

      I always knew Rumple would get his happy ending even when he was evil. I'm glad he finally did. RIP Rumple...

      Regina was HISTORICAL! She was absolutely legendary and awe-inspiring! I'm going to miss her most of all.

      I know everyone commented on the anit-LGBT view, but I'd just like to point out I find it hilarious that they are considering Alice and the Mad Hatter a "classic thing". Like they have nothing romantic in any version I've ever seen, from the book source material to any sort of adaptation. How is that a "classic thing"?

      You're right!

      I think that Alice and the Mad Hatter have a romance in American McGee's Alice or Alice Madness Returns, but I'm not sure though.

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    • Found this from Adam on twitter before he deleted it. Enjoy!

      http://s1.zetaboards.com/L_Anon/single/?p=46433365&t=8105975

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:
      Found this from Adam on twitter before he deleted it. Enjoy!

      http://s1.zetaboards.com/L_Anon/single/?p=46433365&t=8105975

      This is fake

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    • Matheus1234zx wrote:
      TIAB1234 wrote:
      Found this from Adam on twitter before he deleted it. Enjoy!

      http://s1.zetaboards.com/L_Anon/single/?p=46433365&t=8105975

      This is fake

      In your opinion that is.

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:

      Matheus1234zx wrote:
      TIAB1234 wrote:
      Found this from Adam on twitter before he deleted it. Enjoy!

      http://s1.zetaboards.com/L_Anon/single/?p=46433365&t=8105975

      This is fake

      In your opinion that is.

      It is totally fake.

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:
      Found this from Adam on twitter before he deleted it. Enjoy!

      http://s1.zetaboards.com/L_Anon/single/?p=46433365&t=8105975

      Come on. Don't waste your time trying to fool everyone. It is obviously fake.

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      TIAB1234 wrote:
      Found this from Adam on twitter before he deleted it. Enjoy!

      http://s1.zetaboards.com/L_Anon/single/?p=46433365&t=8105975

      Come on. Don't waste your time trying to fool everyone. It is obviously fake.

      I'm not fooling anyone. And I didn't make up this link, I just found it. And you hurt my feelings accusing me.

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      TIAB1234 wrote:
      Found this from Adam on twitter before he deleted it. Enjoy!

      http://s1.zetaboards.com/L_Anon/single/?p=46433365&t=8105975

      Come on. Don't waste your time trying to fool everyone. It is obviously fake.
      I'm not fooling anyone. And I didn't make this link. I just found it. I demand an apology for rude accusing on me.

      "Found this from Adam on twitter before he deleted it. Enjoy!". Yeah, totally seemed like you did make the link. 

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      TIAB1234 wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      TIAB1234 wrote:
      Found this from Adam on twitter before he deleted it. Enjoy!

      http://s1.zetaboards.com/L_Anon/single/?p=46433365&t=8105975

      Come on. Don't waste your time trying to fool everyone. It is obviously fake.
      I'm not fooling anyone. And I didn't make this link. I just found it. I demand an apology for rude accusing on me.
      "Found this from Adam on twitter before he deleted it. Enjoy!". Yeah, totally seemed like you did make the link. 

      I did not make it. I found it. It's very cold of you. That was from someone else in that forum who found it and posted it before.

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    • (MOD): Spreading rumors, especially false information is not tolerated. Let’s move on from this discussion and try to not contour to spread false information.

      Plus, TIAB, it has terrible grammar, lack of punctuation, “translate from English”, and Adam has never discussed Once in any significant degree post-finale. To add on to that, Adam wouldn’t say anything like that and I look at his Twitter all the time.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      (MOD): Spreading rumors, especially false information is not tolerated. Let’s move on from this discussion and try to not contour to spread false information.

      Plus, TIAB, it has terrible grammar, lack of punctuation, “translate from English”, and Adam has never discussed Once in any significant degree post-finale. To add on to that, Adam wouldn’t say anything like that (and I watch his Twitter like a hawk).

      I was not trying to spread rumors. Now you are accusing me and jumping to bad conclusions of some info that are not all fake. I won't tolertate it.

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:

      Eskaver wrote:
      (MOD): Spreading rumors, especially false information is not tolerated. Let’s move on from this discussion and try to not contour to spread false information.

      Plus, TIAB, it has terrible grammar, lack of punctuation, “translate from English”, and Adam has never discussed Once in any significant degree post-finale. To add on to that, Adam wouldn’t say anything like that (and I watch his Twitter like a hawk).

      I was not trying to spread rumors. Now you are accusing me and jumping to bad conclusions of some info that are not all fake. I won't tolertate it.

      It is conclusively fake. I don’t fault you for being deceived, but it is false information and should not be discussed any further.

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      TIAB1234 wrote:


      Eskaver wrote:
      (MOD): Spreading rumors, especially false information is not tolerated. Let’s move on from this discussion and try to not contour to spread false information.

      Plus, TIAB, it has terrible grammar, lack of punctuation, “translate from English”, and Adam has never discussed Once in any significant degree post-finale. To add on to that, Adam wouldn’t say anything like that (and I watch his Twitter like a hawk).

      I was not trying to spread rumors. Now you are accusing me and jumping to bad conclusions of some info that are not all fake. I won't tolertate it.
      It is conclusively fake. I don’t fault you for being deceived, but it is false information and should not be discussed any further.

      Than why don't you tell the others like Lady Rapunzel to apologize to me for wrongly accusing me for saying I "did make the link." She hurt me. When someone says tha

      And for the record, I was not being deceived, nor did I jump to conclusions. I just didn't know if it was really or fake. And I didn't jump to quick conclusions on which one it is.

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    • TIAB, the discussion will not go any further in any direction. No need for accusations on any part.

      Any further posts will be removed upon this topic.

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    • Nakis91 wrote:
      Hii, I just wanted to have the honor to start the last ever discussion thread :)

      So, was it everything you wished for? 

      Was it not? 

      Did they live happily ever after? 

      Spill the (magic) beans.

      1. Still left with plenty of loose ends (including the evil murders of dear parents). Like wish Henry pointed out, Those stories still need endings. Though that can be accomplished in revivals.

      2. it had good moments

      3. the timelines are pretty confusing and messed up, as some pointed out.

      4. Like the previous episodes, some scenes never made it to screen. Not that I am disappointed.

      5. Lily's story with her father was pretty rushed. If they did a revival, they might retcon it if they still didn't have permission to put Zorro in action.

      6. Once again the showrunners lied about certain plots that were teased including some history of Alice 2's adventures.

      7. Snowing's dramatic entrance was very good. And once again they came to the rescue, which is more than I can say about their daughter.

      8. Nice ending, but if they do a revival, everything might get retconned (like Will & Grace).

      9. Seeing the Charming's entrance by being disguised as black knights reminded me of Graham's entrance in 1x022.

      10. Prince Neal and Pinocchio should be older.

      11. I wouldn't call it a ending either like Regina ponted out. Open-endings lead to endless possibilities. Ginny and Josh spoiled they are fully opened for possible returns and hinted their may still be more adventures and stories for them both. Whatever happenes, I would look forward to it, as long as they are good stories and arcs.

      12. I am not sure if that is our Zelena we saw. I mean she was clearly from a different time.

      13. It's too bad Red didn't appear cause her reunion with Snow would be cute again.

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:
      Nakis91 wrote:
      Hii, I just wanted to have the honor to start the last ever discussion thread :)

      So, was it everything you wished for? 

      Was it not? 

      Did they live happily ever after? 

      Spill the (magic) beans.

      1. Still left with plenty of loose ends. Like wish Henry pointed out, Those stories still need endings.

      2. it had good moments

      3. the timelines are pretty confusing and messed up and some pointed out

      4. Like the previous episodes, some scenes never made it to screen. Not that I am disappointed.

      5. Lily's story with her father was pretty rushed. If they did a revival, they might retcon it if they still didn't have permission to put Zorro in action.

      6. Once again the showrunners lied about certain plots that were teased.

      7. Snowing's dramatic entrance was very good. And once again they came to the rescue, which is more than I can say about their daughter.

      8. Nice ending, but if they do a revival, everything might get retconned (like Will & Grace).

      9. Seeing the Charming's entrance by being disguised as black knights reminded me of Graham's entrance in 1x022.

      10. Prince Neal should've been older.

      11. I wouldn't call it a ending either like Regina ponted out. Open-endings lead to endless possibilities. Ginny and Josh spoiled they are fully opened for possible returns and hinted their may still be more adventures and stories for them both. Whatever happenes, I would look forward to it, as long as they are good stories and arcs.

      According to A&E, they said that they always planned Zorro to be Lily's father, but they couldn't get the rights of the character. I don't have the link of the interview, sorry.

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    • Truest Believer wrote:
      TIAB1234 wrote:
      Nakis91 wrote:
      Hii, I just wanted to have the honor to start the last ever discussion thread :)

      So, was it everything you wished for? 

      Was it not? 

      Did they live happily ever after? 

      Spill the (magic) beans.

      1. Still left with plenty of loose ends. Like wish Henry pointed out, Those stories still need endings.

      2. it had good moments

      3. the timelines are pretty confusing and messed up and some pointed out

      4. Like the previous episodes, some scenes never made it to screen. Not that I am disappointed.

      5. Lily's story with her father was pretty rushed. If they did a revival, they might retcon it if they still didn't have permission to put Zorro in action.

      6. Once again the showrunners lied about certain plots that were teased.

      7. Snowing's dramatic entrance was very good. And once again they came to the rescue, which is more than I can say about their daughter.

      8. Nice ending, but if they do a revival, everything might get retconned (like Will & Grace).

      9. Seeing the Charming's entrance by being disguised as black knights reminded me of Graham's entrance in 1x022.

      10. Prince Neal should've been older.

      11. I wouldn't call it a ending either like Regina ponted out. Open-endings lead to endless possibilities. Ginny and Josh spoiled they are fully opened for possible returns and hinted their may still be more adventures and stories for them both. Whatever happenes, I would look forward to it, as long as they are good stories and arcs.

      According to A&E, they said that they always planned Zorro to be Lily's father, but they couldn't get the rights of the character. I don't have the link of the interview, sorry.

      I know that, I'm simply saying that Lily's story with her father was not fully explanned on full detail or seen in action. Some people were pretty disappointed for that a bit. And also, I was simply saying that if replacements of A&E took over (which seems very likely) they might change that story a bit. Nothing personal.

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    • I'm genuinely amused how A & E managed to have young Robin's age in this finale correct (about 5 made sense if Henry was around 18). 

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    • A Spy in the Mirror
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