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    Episode airing!
    00:00, April 7, 2018

    Written by Jane Espenson & Jerome Schwartz


    https://twitter.com/AdamHorowitzLA/status/951137468140548096


    I don't see what it could be x) I mean, naturally, I'd go with Hop-o'-My-Thumb & Gretel or a new iteration of Hansel, but it seems weird for an episode number 16 x)

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    • Breadcrumbs is either Hansel, Gretel and the Blind Witch (Coven of 8 maybe?) or that there are scattered clues so maybe a big reveal hinted at for ages??

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    • Gusey1397 wrote:
      Breadcrumbs is either Hansel, Gretel and the Blind Witch (Coven of 8 maybe?) or that there are scattered clues so maybe a big reveal hinted at for ages??


      Also can be Hop-o'-My-Thumb :P

      But yeah, from a non-fairytale pov, I'll stay with my first thought of the scattered clues too x) Let's not forget this ep is ep 149; so maybe they're building something a bit big for ep 150?

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    • My guess would be that the Blind Witch will be a member of the Coven Of The Eight and that is what this episode will focus on.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Gusey1397 wrote:
      Breadcrumbs is either Hansel, Gretel and the Blind Witch (Coven of 8 maybe?) or that there are scattered clues so maybe a big reveal hinted at for ages??

      Also can be Hop-o'-My-Thumb :P

      But yeah, from a non-fairytale pov, I'll stay with my first thought of the scattered clues too x) Let's not forget this ep is ep 149; so maybe they're building something a bit big for ep 150?

      That blonde with the braids from Episode 15 could be the new Gretel ^D

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    • Coven123 wrote:
      My guess would be that the Blind Witch will be a member of the Coven Of The Eight and that is what this episode will focus on.

      Or Gothel herself could take the place of the Blind Witch in the story.

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      Coven123 wrote:
      My guess would be that the Blind Witch will be a member of the Coven Of The Eight and that is what this episode will focus on.

      Or Gothel herself could take the place of the Blind Witch in the story.

      That is a possibility.

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    • Hansel and Gretel for sure

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    • What if Hansel and Facilier are one and the same, and he wants revenge on the Witch for kidnapping him?

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    • They already did that exact same thing with Rapunzel/Tremaine and Gothel

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    • Wow, that was quick for another episode title. I think this clearly indicates we will be getting a new take on Hansel and Gretel (using breadcrumbs, which the first versions didn't), which means that the Blind Witch (and possibly Gretel as well) will be a coven witch(es). It could also refer to something being hinted at in this episode, but that would be the secondary meaning to the title, I think.

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    • The Witch wasn't blind in the original fairytale, right? I don't think she will be blind again

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      The Witch wasn't blind in the original fairytale, right? I don't think she will be blind again

      She doesn't have to be blind, but she traditionally at the least has bad eyesight, as Hansel tricks her by using a bone when she trys to feel how fat he is. Someone who could see well would be able to tell it is a bone.

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    • I'm sticking to Hansel & Gretel, too. It's possible it'll also refer to other things like small clues scattered throughout leading up to a big reveal, but Hansel & Gretel will be at least part of it.

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    • I’m guessing part of the episode is about connecting the dots to finding some solution, motive, etc.

      Hansel and Gretel does have breadcrumbs, but it will involve our main crew, right? Unless Lucy has a friend/unknown brother, I don’t know how it’ll tie in effectively. I am certain that this isn’t going to be a filler episode about one-off characters that get the flashback.

      Could be a grown-up variation. Gotta do something with Jack or Henry at some point.

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    • Whaaaat ? No one will EVER replace Emma Caulfield's Blind Witch, find another story to re-adapt xD (grown-up Hansel and Gretel sound good to me though)

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    • Hansel and Gretel most definitely!

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    • Jack may play the part of Hansel. And I agree with CaptainCobra. The first version of Blind Witch is impressive enough to have a new one already...

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    • Seems Once is doing Hansel and Gretel 2.0. 

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    • Idk if I want another Hansel and Gretel. I'd hope that this is just about moving forward and breaking the curse or getting clues to do that. If they do H&G then maybe the adult version will be ok.

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    • How about Jack and Goldilocks are brother and sister, playing the part of Hansel and Gretel?

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    • Goldilocks from Season 6?

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    • I loved the first iteration of the Blind Witch, dont see how they could make this one much better (assuming that’s what this episode is about). I have a feeling this episode will end on a cliffhanger as it is before the 150th episode, as Lady Junky pointed out.

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    • Two things:

      1. I wasn't a fan of the first iteration, Hansel and Gretel didn't interest me back then, but maybe if they are adults it could be interesting. The Blind Witch was okay, she got better in season 5 when we explored her a bit more, but I don't mind a new one.

      2. Wait, we are approaching to the 150th episode? Cool! Maybe... just maybe, do you think we will get some returning characters and surprises during that one?

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      Two things:

      1. I wasn't a fan of the first iteration, Hansel and Gretel didn't interest me back then, but maybe if they are adults it could be interesting. The Blind Witch was okay, she got better in season 5 when we explored her a bit more, but I don't mind a new one.

      2. Wait, we are approaching to the 150th episode? Cool! Maybe... just maybe, do you think we will get some returning characters and surprises during that one?

      The two most likely chances of having returning characters would be either the 150th episode, or the last two episodes of the season, as those usually don't relate as much to the plot of the rest of the season.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      Two things:

      1. I wasn't a fan of the first iteration, Hansel and Gretel didn't interest me back then, but maybe if they are adults it could be interesting. The Blind Witch was okay, she got better in season 5 when we explored her a bit more, but I don't mind a new one.

      2. Wait, we are approaching to the 150th episode? Cool! Maybe... just maybe, do you think we will get some returning characters and surprises during that one?

      The two most likely chances of having returning characters would be either the 150th episode, or the last two episodes of the season, as those usually don't relate as much to the plot of the rest of the season.

      Now that that the chances of Season 8 are pretty much higher than expected, i'm looking forward to see how this final episodes of Season 7 will "tease" the plot of the next season. Maybe Hansel and Gretel will be a big part of the (possible) next season and that's why they have this episode (what seems to be a centric...?)

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    • What if... This is the Gothel backstory episode, and she is actually Gretel?!

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      What if... This is the Gothel backstory episode, and she is actually Gretel?!

      That would be very twisted. I mean... Gretel locked up Lady Tremaine in her tower. Wow.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      Two things:

      1. I wasn't a fan of the first iteration, Hansel and Gretel didn't interest me back then, but maybe if they are adults it could be interesting. The Blind Witch was okay, she got better in season 5 when we explored her a bit more, but I don't mind a new one.

      2. Wait, we are approaching to the 150th episode? Cool! Maybe... just maybe, do you think we will get some returning characters and surprises during that one?

      The two most likely chances of having returning characters would be either the 150th episode, or the last two episodes of the season, as those usually don't relate as much to the plot of the rest of the season.

      I think Snowing might return for 150. The writers discussed about having them back eventually and having familiar faces in 7B earlier, it would be the perfect time for it.

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    • I think they might save Snowing for the finale, as a possible cliffhanger (that way they can also have them in the premiere of the next potential season).

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      What if... This is the Gothel backstory episode, and she is actually Gretel?!
      That would be very twisted. I mean... Gretel locked up Lady Tremaine in her tower. Wow.

      So you are speculating that Gretel grew up into Mother Gothel, kidnapped Rapunzel, who escaped and locked Gothel in the tower to become Lady Tremaine. Gothel disguised herself as Rapunzel, slept with Captain Hook, and gave birth to Alice in Wonderland. Alice grows up and starts dating Robin Hood, the daughter of the Wicked Witch of the West, whose sister is the Evil Queen, whose adopted son is the son of the Ugly Duckling and the grandson of Snow White and is married to Cinderella, whose wicked stepmother is also Rapunzel who was kidnapped by Mother Gothel who is also Gretel.

      ...It's horrible, but I love it.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      What if... This is the Gothel backstory episode, and she is actually Gretel?!
      That would be very twisted. I mean... Gretel locked up Lady Tremaine in her tower. Wow.
      So you are speculating that Gretel grew up into Mother Gothel, kidnapped Rapunzel, who escaped and locked Gothel in the tower to become Lady Tremaine. Gothel disguised herself as Rapunzel, slept with Captain Hook, and gave birth to Alice in Wonderland. Alice grows up and starts dating Robin Hood, the daughter of the Wicked Witch of the West, whose sister is the Evil Queen, whose adopted son is the son of the Ugly Duckling and the grandson of Snow White and is married to Cinderella, whose wicked stepmother is also Rapunzel who was kidnapped by Mother Gothel who is also Gretel.

      ...It's horrible, but I love it.

      Twisted.

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    • Didn't Red Riding Hood have breadcrumbs in one version? She left breadcrumbs to find her way home? 

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    • Nakis91 wrote:
      Didn't Red Riding Hood have breadcrumbs in one version? She left breadcrumbs to find her way home? 

      I don't think so?

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      What if... This is the Gothel backstory episode, and she is actually Gretel?!
      That would be very twisted. I mean... Gretel locked up Lady Tremaine in her tower. Wow.
      So you are speculating that Gretel grew up into Mother Gothel, kidnapped Rapunzel, who escaped and locked Gothel in the tower to become Lady Tremaine. Gothel disguised herself as Rapunzel, slept with Captain Hook, and gave birth to Alice in Wonderland. Alice grows up and starts dating Robin Hood, the daughter of the Wicked Witch of the West, whose sister is the Evil Queen, whose adopted son is the son of the Ugly Duckling and the grandson of Snow White and is married to Cinderella, whose wicked stepmother is also Rapunzel who was kidnapped by Mother Gothel who is also Gretel.

      ...It's horrible, but I love it.

      Twisted.

      As I said before, I believe that Dr. Facilier is actually Hansel Facilier and Gretel is his wife and Naveen is their son

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    • Here is my crazy theory. The Hansel and Gretel story starts traditionally, with them going into the woods, and they can't find their way back because birds eat the breadcrumbs. They find the Blind Witch's house, and she wants to eat them. But here is the twist, instead of working together, Gretel decides she wants to learn magic, and so lets Hansel be eaten by the witch, in exchange for lessons in magic. Later on Gothel convinces the Blind Witch and Gretel to join her coven.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote: Here is my crazy theory. The Hansel and Gretel story starts traditionally, with them going into the woods, and they can't find their way back because birds eat the breadcrumbs. They find the Blind Witch's house, and she wants to eat them. But here is the twist, instead of working together, Gretel decides she wants to learn magic, and so lets Hansel be eaten by the witch, in exchange for lessons in magic. Later on Gothel convinces the Blind Witch and Gretel to join her coven.

      Cannabalism? Umm no.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote: Here is my crazy theory. The Hansel and Gretel story starts traditionally, with them going into the woods, and they can't find their way back because birds eat the breadcrumbs. They find the Blind Witch's house, and she wants to eat them. But here is the twist, instead of working together, Gretel decides she wants to learn magic, and so lets Hansel be eaten by the witch, in exchange for lessons in magic. Later on Gothel convinces the Blind Witch and Gretel to join her coven.

      Cannabalism? Umm no.

      Why? It is in the source material

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote: Here is my crazy theory. The Hansel and Gretel story starts traditionally, with them going into the woods, and they can't find their way back because birds eat the breadcrumbs. They find the Blind Witch's house, and she wants to eat them. But here is the twist, instead of working together, Gretel decides she wants to learn magic, and so lets Hansel be eaten by the witch, in exchange for lessons in magic. Later on Gothel convinces the Blind Witch and Gretel to join her coven.

      Cannabalism? Umm no.

      It’s not like they have to show it. I mean, they’ve had assault and mass-murder on the series (on multiple occasions).

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    • TheRose123 wrote:

      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote: Here is my crazy theory. The Hansel and Gretel story starts traditionally, with them going into the woods, and they can't find their way back because birds eat the breadcrumbs. They find the Blind Witch's house, and she wants to eat them. But here is the twist, instead of working together, Gretel decides she wants to learn magic, and so lets Hansel be eaten by the witch, in exchange for lessons in magic. Later on Gothel convinces the Blind Witch and Gretel to join her coven.

      Cannabalism? Umm no.

      It’s not like they have to show it. I mean, they’ve had assault and mass-murder on the series (on multiple occasions).

      I mean... Ruby ate Peter. She's technically a different species (maybe? How werewolves work has never been made clear) but it's nothing new. Once has its occasional dark episodes. They've become less frequent lately, but I don't have a problem with them coming back. Sympathy for the De Vil was one of the best episodes of Season 4 and it had a woman be devoured by dogs just off-screen while we listen to her screams, then the dogs are skinned and sewn into a coat a couple scenes later.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:

      TheRose123 wrote:

      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote: Here is my crazy theory. The Hansel and Gretel story starts traditionally, with them going into the woods, and they can't find their way back because birds eat the breadcrumbs. They find the Blind Witch's house, and she wants to eat them. But here is the twist, instead of working together, Gretel decides she wants to learn magic, and so lets Hansel be eaten by the witch, in exchange for lessons in magic. Later on Gothel convinces the Blind Witch and Gretel to join her coven.

      Cannabalism? Umm no.

      It’s not like they have to show it. I mean, they’ve had assault and mass-murder on the series (on multiple occasions).

      I mean... Ruby ate Peter. She's technically a different species (maybe? How werewolves work has never been made clear) but it's nothing new. Once has its occasional dark episodes. They've become less frequent lately, but I don't have a problem with them coming back. Sympathy for the De Vil was one of the best episodes of Season 4 and it had a woman be devoured by dogs just off-screen while we listen to her screams, then the dogs are skinned and sewn into a coat a couple scenes later.

      And the original Blind Witch ate children - I faintly remember the camera panning down to reveal skulls and bones.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Adelaide as Ivy on set today ^^

      https://twitter.com/KaneSource/status/951892484858220544

      Have they started filming this episode? All the other filming spoilers from today/last night went on 715's thread.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      Adelaide as Ivy on set today ^^

      https://twitter.com/KaneSource/status/951892484858220544

      Have they started filming this episode? All the other filming spoilers from today/last night went on 715's thread.


      They started today ^^

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    • Good! One more episode with Ivy!

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote: Good! One more episode with Ivy!

      That means either this episode or 17 is the one where she makes her departure from the cast (but it’s more likely to be this one).

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    • I was thinking the Witch from H&G was one of the coven witches, but I did not get as far as Gothel is Gretel. It makes sense as to how Gothel knows the Witch. I was a little foggy on the details of H&G, and Gretel becomes a slave of the Witch, so that could be a partial origin story for Gothel. I think it might be likely that Hansel is eaten by the Witch. 

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    • I think that Hansel became Dr. Facilier and married Gretel/Gothel and that Naveen is their child.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      I think that Hansel became Dr. Facilier and married Gretel/Gothel and that Naveen is their child.

      Nah.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      I think that Hansel became Dr. Facilier and married Gretel/Gothel and that Naveen is their child.

      It's a pretty big cross-cultural stretch. Facilier is based on a loa for Haitian Vodou. Hansel & Gretel and Rapunzel are German.

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    • Gretel is the blonde woman in the video of Emma Booth ? The girl who has filmed with Adelaide for episode 15 ? And Hansel will be... Dr Facilier ? (Friend ? Love ?)

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    • RumpleRegina wrote:
      Gretel is the blonde woman in the video of Emma Booth ? The girl who has filmed with Adelaide for episode 15 ? And Hansel will be... Dr Facilier ? (Friend ? Love ?)

      The blonde woman could be Gretel, but since she hasn't been on set for this episode, it's harder to say.

      I highly doubt Facilier is Hansel. Besides the aforementioned cultural gap between the two characters, there's also plenty to go on for a Facilier backstory thanks to the extensive lore of Haitian Vodou that wouldn't require them to pull the same trick they literally just did with Rapunzel/Tremaine. Gothel is a little different since her story A) has the same cultural roots as Hansel & Gretel and B) doesn't provide a satisfying backstory for her (Tangled gets closer, but it could still stand to be more interesting.) But honestly, I kind of doubt Gothel is Gretel, either. I'd just be more okay with that happening over Facilier as Hansel.

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    • Regardless, I think it would be an excellent twist if Naveen were Facilier’s son.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote: Regardless, I think it would be an excellent twist if Naveen were Facilier’s son.

      The actor who likely plays Naveen hasn’t been on set since 712, so I doubt they are building up to that.

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    • Let's keep to this episode's filming and speculate from there. It's not a free-for-all. XD

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    • I believe Gothel is Gretel, so this would be the Gothel centric of the season.

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    • I was fearing it but yeah. Seems like I was right.

      What Adelaide filmed on Friday is highly likely (85/90%+) to be a leftover of 715. She is already back to her home of Los Angeles.

      She is over :/

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    • Cool, I was curious as to why she wouldn't depart in Sisterhood, seeing this one is called Breadcrumbs.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      I was fearing it but yeah. Seems like I was right.

      What Adelaide filmed on Friday is highly likely (85/90%+) to be a leftover of 715. She is already back to her home of Los Angeles.

      She is over :/

      No Tremaine, no Drizella... I'll miss them. :( 

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      Lady Junky wrote:
      I was fearing it but yeah. Seems like I was right.

      What Adelaide filmed on Friday is highly likely (85/90%+) to be a leftover of 715. She is already back to her home of Los Angeles.

      She is over :/

      No Tremaine, no Drizella... I'll miss them. :( 

      At least they are taking risks. I’m hoping they pay off.

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    • TheRose123 wrote:

      Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      Lady Junky wrote:
      I was fearing it but yeah. Seems like I was right.

      What Adelaide filmed on Friday is highly likely (85/90%+) to be a leftover of 715. She is already back to her home of Los Angeles.

      She is over :/

      No Tremaine, no Drizella... I'll miss them. :( 

      At least they are taking risks. I’m hoping they pay off.

      I wonder if Anastasia will still be around after the vanishing of Drizella & Rapunzel. And i'm kind of surprised that not Lana nor Rebecca were seen in filmings in 715.

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    • I doubt it. Cinderella And Drizella And Anastasia will probably all die at the same time for a scene a la Ingrid’s death.

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    • ^I doubt they will be killing their new female protagonist, especially when she hasn't done a thing yet.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      I doubt it. Cinderella And Drizella And Anastasia will probably all die at the same time for a scene a la Ingrid’s death.


      Cinderella is 100% safe. They already said that she'd be there for a S8 if it happens.

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    • Rebecca on set today.

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    • Lady Junky wrote: Rebecca on set today.

      I’m guessing she’s going to be in for the rest of the season (hopefully).

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    • Who’s this blonde woman people are talking about? It’s hard to stay up to date with everything Once related. XD

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    • OUAT: The Darkness wrote:
      Who’s this blonde woman people are talking about? It’s hard to stay up to date with everything Once related. XD

      Here: https://www.instagram.com/p/BdgqttkgIBP/

      (pictures 3 & 4) ^^

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    • Rwo

      I see everyone talking about Gretel. XD

      I rather think of a Jack-centric, with you know, the giants, the size difference etc. That guy's been so useless so far.

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    • Rwo wrote:
      I see everyone talking about Gretel. XD

      I rather think of a Jack-centric, with you know, the giants, the size difference etc. That guy's been so useless so far.

      I think someone mentioned the possibility of Jack being Hansel? Which isn't a lot better than Jack being Facilier but at least it would give Jack some much-needed attention.

      Here's a thought: Gretel and her brother (left unnamed) stumble upon the Blind Witch, Gretel becomes her slave while her brother is imprisoned to eventually be eaten. Gretel devises a plan to escape only to be caught, but instead of eating her, the Witch offers to teach her magic if she sacrifices her brother. Gretel accepts, but instead of eating her brother, the Witch reveals that she is Gothel and was testing to see if Gretel is the Guardian. Since she failed, the Witch keeps Gretel locked up while sending her brother away. Gretel becomes a member of the Coven, her brother grows up and is revealed to be Jack, awake in Hyperion Heights and seeking revenge on Gretel.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Rwo wrote:
      I see everyone talking about Gretel. XD

      I rather think of a Jack-centric, with you know, the giants, the size difference etc. That guy's been so useless so far.

      I think someone mentioned the possibility of Jack being Hansel? Which isn't a lot better than Jack being Facilier but at least it would give Jack some much-needed attention.

      Here's a thought: Gretel and her brother (left unnamed) stumble upon the Blind Witch, Gretel becomes her slave while her brother is imprisoned to eventually be eaten. Gretel devises a plan to escape only to be caught, but instead of eating her, the Witch offers to teach her magic if she sacrifices her brother. Gretel accepts, but instead of eating her brother, the Witch reveals that she is Gothel and was testing to see if Gretel is the Guardian. Since she failed, the Witch keeps Gretel locked up while sending her brother away. Gretel becomes a member of the Coven, her brother grows up and is revealed to be Jack, awake in Hyperion Heights and seeking revenge on Gretel.

      That works, but I would have the brother named Hansel, and have Jack just be an alias that he was using.

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    • Rwo

      CoolDudeAl wrote:

      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Rwo wrote:
      I see everyone talking about Gretel. XD

      I rather think of a Jack-centric, with you know, the giants, the size difference etc. That guy's been so useless so far.

      I think someone mentioned the possibility of Jack being Hansel? Which isn't a lot better than Jack being Facilier but at least it would give Jack some much-needed attention.

      Here's a thought: Gretel and her brother (left unnamed) stumble upon the Blind Witch, Gretel becomes her slave while her brother is imprisoned to eventually be eaten. Gretel devises a plan to escape only to be caught, but instead of eating her, the Witch offers to teach her magic if she sacrifices her brother. Gretel accepts, but instead of eating her brother, the Witch reveals that she is Gothel and was testing to see if Gretel is the Guardian. Since she failed, the Witch keeps Gretel locked up while sending her brother away. Gretel becomes a member of the Coven, her brother grows up and is revealed to be Jack, awake in Hyperion Heights and seeking revenge on Gretel.

      That works, but I would have the brother named Hansel, and have Jack just be an alias that he was using.

      Shoot, I omitted I was picturing Jack as Hop-o'-My-Thumb!

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    • Rwo wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote:

      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Rwo wrote:
      I see everyone talking about Gretel. XD

      I rather think of a Jack-centric, with you know, the giants, the size difference etc. That guy's been so useless so far.

      I think someone mentioned the possibility of Jack being Hansel? Which isn't a lot better than Jack being Facilier but at least it would give Jack some much-needed attention.

      Here's a thought: Gretel and her brother (left unnamed) stumble upon the Blind Witch, Gretel becomes her slave while her brother is imprisoned to eventually be eaten. Gretel devises a plan to escape only to be caught, but instead of eating her, the Witch offers to teach her magic if she sacrifices her brother. Gretel accepts, but instead of eating her brother, the Witch reveals that she is Gothel and was testing to see if Gretel is the Guardian. Since she failed, the Witch keeps Gretel locked up while sending her brother away. Gretel becomes a member of the Coven, her brother grows up and is revealed to be Jack, awake in Hyperion Heights and seeking revenge on Gretel.

      That works, but I would have the brother named Hansel, and have Jack just be an alias that he was using.
      Shoot, I omitted I was picturing Jack as Hop-o'-My-Thumb!

      Ohhhh that works a lot better. All that has to be done is turn the ogre into a giant and he's easily both characters. Maybe instead of Hop-o'-My-Thumb and his brothers, we could get Jack and Henry. (maybe also not have Jack get the ogre's daughters killed?)

      The problem is, how does this tie into the Coven?

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    • I'd be just glad if... they actually did something with Jack at all. I'm sure they will show some kind of backstory for him, at some point. I want to see him and Henry meeting for the first time.

      The Blind Witch has high chances to be Gothel in my opinion.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote: I'd be just glad if... they actually did something with Jack at all. I'm sure they will show some kind of backstory for him, at some point. I want to see him and Henry meeting for the first time.

      Maybe if there is a season 8 he will get a centric, but 7B sounds a little too crowded already (unless he has a double role).

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    • TheRose123 wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote: I'd be just glad if... they actually did something with Jack at all. I'm sure they will show some kind of backstory for him, at some point. I want to see him and Henry meeting for the first time.

      Maybe if there is a season 8 he will get a centric, but 7B sounds a little too crowded already (unless he has a double role).

      There are a lot of new characters, between the new witches, Hansel and Gretel, I'm REALLY surprised about the lack of casting news.

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    • So Drizella is leaving and Cinderella is staying?? What a joke!

      Do they even read what the fans post on their social media? Or the reviews? 

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      So Drizella is leaving and Cinderella is staying?? What a joke!

      Do they even read what the fans post on their social media? Or the reviews? 

      This is not how television works. Shows do not completely rewrite their basis because a relative few outspoken fans despise one of their actresses and like another one. Drizella is a recurring character and Cinderella is the new female lead -- while I was hoping Drizella would last for at least the entire season, she was always destined to have a smaller role than Cinderella. You can either get used to it, or find a new show to watch and complain about.

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      So Drizella is leaving and Cinderella is staying?? What a joke!

      Do they even read what the fans post on their social media? Or the reviews? 

      That's not how things work. They didn't go "Hey, guys! I know that we already wrote and filmed most of the season, but I saw some folk online say they don't like Ella and....let's kill her off."

      I know you don't like the character (and whoever else), but this isn't the place to discuss that (and you all (plural) are beating a dead horse. Actually, it's beating the horse's dusty skeleton.

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    • Dania is filming today :) 

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BeBjcxanlYi/

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    • Rose filmed today, according to her Instagram story from last night.

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    • Mekia and Dania on set, with the Rollin' Bayou.
      https://twitter.com/kfcworker/status/953466095083577344

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    • Nice to see Rose (Alice) is still around, after the loss of Adelaide. But I'm not too surprised, since she is so tied to Rumple and especially Hook. Of course Cinderella is not leaving, she's the female protagonist and main love interest for the protagonist, why would they take her out now? Even though a lot of us don't like her, she doesn't have to leave, she has to improve, Drizella is a minor character, she's popular... ok, but she was only recurring. Honestly I'm more surprised if Anastasia is still around as of this episode, since the rest of her family is gone, although she is tied to the coven, any news on Anastasia's status?

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      Mekia and Dania on set, with the Rollin' Bayou.
      https://twitter.com/kfcworker/status/953466095083577344

      Why was Sean tagged in this post? X.X

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      JennaMae wrote:
      Mekia and Dania on set, with the Rollin' Bayou.
      https://twitter.com/kfcworker/status/953466095083577344
      Why was Sean tagged in this post? X.X

      She tagged alot of stuff, so I don't think it means anything.

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      Mekia and Dania on set, with the Rollin' Bayou.
      https://twitter.com/kfcworker/status/953466095083577344

      Kelly O'Bryan's Restaurant? That doesn't sound like a real name of a place, so Zelena is opening a restaurant?

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      JennaMae wrote:
      Mekia and Dania on set, with the Rollin' Bayou.
      https://twitter.com/kfcworker/status/953466095083577344
      Kelly O'Bryan's Restaurant? That doesn't sound like a real name of a place, so Zelena is opening a restaurant?

      It is a real place, in Vernon ^^ https://www.facebook.com/KellyObryansVernon/

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      JennaMae wrote:
      Mekia and Dania on set, with the Rollin' Bayou.
      https://twitter.com/kfcworker/status/953466095083577344
      Kelly O'Bryan's Restaurant? That doesn't sound like a real name of a place, so Zelena is opening a restaurant?
      It is a real place, in Vernon ^^ https://www.facebook.com/KellyObryansVernon/

      What? That's terrible. XD

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      JennaMae wrote:
      Mekia and Dania on set, with the Rollin' Bayou.
      https://twitter.com/kfcworker/status/953466095083577344
      Kelly O'Bryan's Restaurant? That doesn't sound like a real name of a place, so Zelena is opening a restaurant?
      It is a real place, in Vernon ^^ https://www.facebook.com/KellyObryansVernon/
      What? That's terrible. XD

      I'm still holding out for her name to be Kelly Weste anyway :P

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    • Tilly could be working for Jacinda & Sabine

      BTW, it is totally Tiera on the bench, right?

      https://twitter.com/yvrshoots/status/953737589458112515

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    • Hoping to see more of Alice and Robin^^

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      Hoping to see more of Alice and Robin^^

      Thanks to God they're still sticking around after 714. No RubySlippers horrible situation again... Thanks to Lord! 

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Tilly could be working for Jacinda & Sabine

      BTW, it is totally Tiera on the bench, right?

      https://twitter.com/yvrshoots/status/953737589458112515

      Maybe, or it could be an extra that looks similar.

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    • So it seems the curse is still around and is not broken in 7x15 as some predicted, as Alice and Robin seem to have their cursed personas in the bts photos. I think it's going to be broken around 7x17 or 7x20, leaving the finale for something new. I kinda wish they would break it, because there's too many people who are awake at this point, it's becoming a bit of a joke.

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    • So...Sabine really is banking on those beignets. 

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote: So it seems the curse is still around and is not broken in 7x15 as some predicted, as Alice and Robin seem to have their cursed personas in the bts photos. I think it's going to be broken around 7x17 or 7x20, leaving the finale for something new. I kinda wish they would break it, because there's too many people who are awake at this point, it's becoming a bit of a joke.

      Especially because the witches in the Coven Of The Eight can’t do anything without magic (unless all of them found Gothel’s loophole).

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    • TheRose123 wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote: So it seems the curse is still around and is not broken in 7x15 as some predicted, as Alice and Robin seem to have their cursed personas in the bts photos. I think it's going to be broken around 7x17 or 7x20, leaving the finale for something new. I kinda wish they would break it, because there's too many people who are awake at this point, it's becoming a bit of a joke.

      Especially because the witches in the Coven Of The Eight can’t do anything without magic (unless all of them found Gothel’s loophole).

      It's a weird thing too as I don't think the Witches had their memories. (This curse is super inconvenient, unless Gothel really wanted to fool Drizzy that she totally wasn't playing her.)

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    • I’m a bit discouraged that it appears that the curse is very much intact. Of course, all we have are small snippets with little context.

      Sort of feels like we have the three stooges and the three blind mice roaming around in these unsubstantial subplots while “The Villians” are getting everything (as in the attention and quality screentime). I know they like writing “The Villains” but it’s getting a bit much. Regina and Zelena are trying to take on an impossible task. Facilier is getting love and revenge. Gothel is gahthering her Coven. Rumple is on his quest. Drizzy and Raps are bowing out (in glorious manner, hopefully).

      I hope it’s not the case, so perhaps there’s a twist in this episode or the next (Probably the next one).

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    • When do filmings for this episode end?

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      When do filmings for this episode end?

      Today.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      When do filmings for this episode end?
      Today.

      Thanks. :) 

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    • Zelena's fiancee will be played by Kip Pardue. He's described "as a clever, romantic guy who’s no stranger to grand gestures. He keeps a cool head and maintains high levels of patience and compassion, even when it seems like his world may be turned upside down."

       http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/23/once-upon-a-time-kip-pardue-season-7/

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    • Calibaz wrote:

      Zelena's fiancee will be played by Kip Pardue. He's described "as a clever, romantic guy who’s no stranger to grand gestures. He keeps a cool head and maintains high levels of patience and compassion, even when it seems like his world may be turned upside down."

       http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/23/once-upon-a-time-kip-pardue-season-7/

      Wrong thread. (He appears in 7x17)

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Calibaz wrote:

      Zelena's fiancee will be played by Kip Pardue. He's described "as a clever, romantic guy who’s no stranger to grand gestures. He keeps a cool head and maintains high levels of patience and compassion, even when it seems like his world may be turned upside down."

       http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/23/once-upon-a-time-kip-pardue-season-7/

      Wrong thread. (He appears in 7x17)

      Sorry :(

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    • http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/25/spoiler-room-flash-once-upon-time-brooklyn/

      Thanks for all the scoop on the 150th episode of Once Upon a Time, but do you have anything about the hours leading up to it? — Raina How about the hour directly before it? Titled “Breadcrumbs,” the 149th episode “is an epic adventure on the high seas with Henry and Hook as they venture into stormy waters more dangerous than they could possibly imagine,” executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis tease.

      Judging by this spoiler on this link, perhaps this episode is not a Hansel & Gretel or Blind Witch story.

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:
      http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/25/spoiler-room-flash-once-upon-time-brooklyn/

      Judging by this spoiler on this link, perhaps this episode is not a Hansel & Gretel or Blind Witch story.

      You're right! It's a Henry/Hook episode. Breadcrumbs has another meaning besides the actual, physical kind.

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:
      http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/25/spoiler-room-flash-once-upon-time-brooklyn/

      Judging by this spoiler on this link, perhaps this episode is not a Hansel & Gretel or Blind Witch story.

      That's such a weird summary? And isn't 713 already a Hook centric? Do we really need a third, even if it's shared with Henry?

      Okay, so... what??? What do Breadcrumbs have to do with high seas adventures? I'm just completely at a loss here.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      TIAB1234 wrote:
      http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/25/spoiler-room-flash-once-upon-time-brooklyn/Judging by this spoiler on this link, perhaps this episode is not a Hansel & Gretel or Blind Witch story.
      You're right! It's a Henry/Hook episode. Breadcrumbs has another meaning besides the actual, physical kind.

      I believed it had more than one meaning too. I just waited to see what the title truly meant. And I wasn't totally convinced this could've been a Hansel & Gretel story.

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    • That really sounds to me like it should be a spoiler for 713, what with Captain Ahab being in that one.

      I honestly have zero ideas for where they're going with this.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      That really sounds to me like it should be a spoiler for 713, what with Captain Ahab being in that one.

      I honestly have zero ideas for where they're going with this.

      To jump the shark, of course. I mean, they'll jump the whale in 7x13 and they leaving little clues (breadcrumbs) for us to figure that out. XD

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    • I am very excited about a Henry/Hook high seas adventure episode. 

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    • Emillian Swanones wrote:
      I am very excited about a Henry/Hook high seas adventure episode. 

      I mean, so am I, but not as much when it's probably Hook's third centric in the season while Cinderella -- you know, the supposed female lead -- has only gotten one.

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    • It makes me happy cos this spoiler is basically throwing away all Hansel/Gretel theories :D

      And, since I never thought it'd be about them, and that they'd not do a second iteration of these characters... :D

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Emillian Swanones wrote:
      I am very excited about a Henry/Hook high seas adventure episode. 
      I mean, so am I, but not as much when it's probably Hook's third centric in the season while Cinderella -- you know, the supposed female lead -- has only gotten one.

      She had two: Garden of Forking Paths and Pretty in Blue. There's probably going to be a third at the end of the season. 

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    • Emillian Swanones wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Emillian Swanones wrote:
      I am very excited about a Henry/Hook high seas adventure episode. 
      I mean, so am I, but not as much when it's probably Hook's third centric in the season while Cinderella -- you know, the supposed female lead -- has only gotten one.
      She had two: Garden of Forking Paths and Pretty in Blue. There's probably going to be a third at the end of the season. 

      Oh, I forgot Pretty in Blue. Still, it wasn't a great one since they mostly talked about her backstory instead of showing it. And then it turned out that most of the things they talked about were more relevant to Tremaine than to her.

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    • Maybe Wish Hook gets the Jolly Roger back?

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    • I am, to say the least, disappointed. I was all hyped up for Hansel & Gretel. Another Hook centric? Really?

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    • Let's not jump into some random conclusions. Not because Hook is there that it is gonna be a Hook-centric. Strictly speaking we have no proof, same for 713.

      Could be a Henry-centric ^^

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Let's not jump into some random conclusions. Not because Hook is there that it is gonna be a Hook-centric. Strictly speaking we have no proof, same for 713.

      Could be a Henry-centric ^^

      This ^^. Could be a Henry centric. Possibly even shared with another character.

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    • So presumably, since it's Wish Hook and Henry, this episode will take place either before Lucy's birth or in the eight years leading up to the casting of the curse. If it's a Henry-centric, which makes more sense, then I'm going to go with the former, showing Henry and Cinderella's wedding.

      Maybe they need something from overseas to stop Gothel and/or Drizella from doing something? So Hook, being a pirate captain, and Henry, having learned some sailing things from Other Hook, volunteer to go get it. Along the way, they encounter something Coven-related, and Hook advises Henry to appreciate the people he loves while they're still around or something corny like that. When they return, Henry proposes to Cinderella.

      I think Hop-o'-my-Thumb is still a legitimate theory -- not a full adaptation, but little references. Maybe Hook and Henry will encounter a giant, and they leave something a la breadcrumbs to find their way back to the Resistance. Idk, it fits better than Hansel & Gretel would.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:

      Maybe they need something from overseas to stop Gothel and/or Drizella from doing something? So Hook, being a pirate captain, and Henry, having learned some sailing things from Other Hook, volunteer to go get it. 

      And taught by his Father Baelfire to sail, don't foget. After all, he started it all in s2.

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    • It could still be about Hansel and Gretel. They could encounter the Blind Witch on their “adventure”.

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    • I'm with TheRose on this. Just because Henry and Hook are having a big part in the episode doesn't mean it isn't also about Hansel and Gretel and/or the Blind Witch. Pretty In Blue was about Henry and Ella, for example, yet featured New Wonderland and Alice pretty heavily. And we have lots of reasons to believe the Hansel and Gretel story would be in this episode: 1. This was a story that was really only shown for one episode during Seasons 1 - 6, which means it is a prime candidate for getting a New version; 2. We need iconic witches for the coven, and the witch from Hansel and Gretel fits that; and 3. Breadcrumbs is a pretty big part of the Hansel and Gretel story. So let's not totally dismiss Hansel and Gretel quite yet.

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    • I don't think I'd count any episode besides 7x01 as a Henry centric. The only one in which the central storyline was from his POV. 7x08 was really just about Ella dealing with stuff - she literally left him behind to, lol.

      Henry is way overdue for one.

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    • Here’s what I think. The flashback takes place right after 7x08. Henry and WHook decide to voyage across the ocean. On the way, they find two merpeople, Hansel and Gretel, who have been recruited by Gothel to steal from an underwater Blind Witch. They eventually succeed with the help of WHook and Henry, and Hansel and Gretel give the item to Gothel. Gothel then reveals that this was a test and that they had succeeded. She then trains them in magic, and has Gretel eventually join the coven.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Here’s what I think. The flashback takes place right after 7x08. Henry and WHook decide to voyage across the ocean. On the way, they find two merpeople, Hansel and Gretel, who have been recruited by Gothel to steal from an underwater Blind Witch. They eventually succeed with the help of WHook and Henry, and Hansel and Gretel give the item to Gothel. Gothel then reveals that this was a test and that they had succeeded. She then trains them in magic, and has Gretel eventually join the coven.

      But why would Henry & Hook help Gothel with her plans?

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Here’s what I think. The flashback takes place right after 7x08. Henry and WHook decide to voyage across the ocean. On the way, they find two merpeople, Hansel and Gretel, who have been recruited by Gothel to steal from an underwater Blind Witch. They eventually succeed with the help of WHook and Henry, and Hansel and Gretel give the item to Gothel. Gothel then reveals that this was a test and that they had succeeded. She then trains them in magic, and has Gretel eventually join the coven.

      But why would Henry & Hook help Gothel with her plans?

      They didn’t know she was evil.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Here’s what I think. The flashback takes place right after 7x08. Henry and WHook decide to voyage across the ocean. On the way, they find two merpeople, Hansel and Gretel, who have been recruited by Gothel to steal from an underwater Blind Witch. They eventually succeed with the help of WHook and Henry, and Hansel and Gretel give the item to Gothel. Gothel then reveals that this was a test and that they had succeeded. She then trains them in magic, and has Gretel eventually join the coven.
      But why would Henry & Hook help Gothel with her plans?
      They didn’t know she was evil.

      Actually Wish Hook did know she was years ago right after Alice was born and that Rapunzel was her indisguise.

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      Lady Rapunzel wrote:


      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      Here’s what I think. The flashback takes place right after 7x08. Henry and WHook decide to voyage across the ocean. On the way, they find two merpeople, Hansel and Gretel, who have been recruited by Gothel to steal from an underwater Blind Witch. They eventually succeed with the help of WHook and Henry, and Hansel and Gretel give the item to Gothel. Gothel then reveals that this was a test and that they had succeeded. She then trains them in magic, and has Gretel eventually join the coven.
      But why would Henry & Hook help Gothel with her plans?
      They didn’t know she was evil.
      Actually Wish Hook did know she was years ago right after Alice was born and that Rapunzel was her indisguise.

      They are saying they didn't know Hansel and Gretel were evil.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote: Here’s what I think. The flashback takes place right after 7x08. Henry and WHook decide to voyage across the ocean. On the way, they find two merpeople, Hansel and Gretel, who have been recruited by Gothel to steal from an underwater Blind Witch. They eventually succeed with the help of WHook and Henry, and Hansel and Gretel give the item to Gothel. Gothel then reveals that this was a test and that they had succeeded. She then trains them in magic, and has Gretel eventually join the coven.

      I think that they may have meant to use “high seas adventure” as an expression, but it could be literal. Maybe Hook/Henry take on the roles of Hansel and Gretel, and the Blind Witch creates various illusions which lure them into her trap.

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    • Not too exciting, but this actress is playing a woman customer in this episode, according to IMDB:

      http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4011840/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t10

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote: Not too exciting, but this actress is playing a woman customer in this episode, according to IMDB:

      http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4011840/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t10

      Maybe in present day, some part of the storyline has to do with Jacinda and Tiana’s food truck? Hence “breadcrumbs” could have a double meaning, in this case being an ingredient for one of their dishes.

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    • TheRose123 wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote: Not too exciting, but this actress is playing a woman customer in this episode, according to IMDB:

      http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4011840/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t10

      Maybe in present day, some part of the storyline has to do with Jacinda and Tiana’s food truck? Hence “breadcrumbs” could have a double meaning, in this case being an ingredient for one of their dishes.

      Yeah, that definitly could be part of it, and I don't think anyone has brought that up yet. And Sabine was on set in her food truck for this episode, so it all fits.

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    • I just had a thought, if Emma was in S7, she and the real Hook would have had Alice as their daughter, and maybe we could have had a story with Henry and Alice as siblings like Hansel and Gretel. What a missed opportunity.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      I just had a thought, if Emma was in S7, she and the real Hook would have had Alice as their daughter, and maybe we could have had a story with Henry and Alice as siblings like Hansel and Gretel. What a missed opportunity.

      Not so much a missed opportunity as a stolen opportunity, since Jennifer was the one who decided to leave and the original plan was to have her appear. The writers can hardly be blamed for missing any storylines related to her absence.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      I just had a thought, if Emma was in S7, she and the real Hook would have had Alice as their daughter, and maybe we could have had a story with Henry and Alice as siblings like Hansel and Gretel. What a missed opportunity.

      Not so much a missed opportunity as a stolen opportunity, since Jennifer was the one who decided to leave and the original plan was to have her appear. The writers can hardly be blamed for missing any storylines related to her absence.

      I know, I never said it was the writers' fault. It's no one's fault.

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    • Could this bring a new iteration of Monstro, who attacks Henry and Hook in the "high seas"? 

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Could this bring a new iteration of Monstro, who attacks Henry and Hook in the "high seas"? 

      Well, we already have Captain Ahab and presumably Moby Dick in 713, so I doubt it.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Could this bring a new iteration of Monstro, who attacks Henry and Hook in the "high seas"? 

      Well, we already have Captain Ahab and presumably Moby Dick in 713, so I doubt it.

      You're saying that Monstro could appear in Knightfall or that you think he won't appear in any episode at all?

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Could this bring a new iteration of Monstro, who attacks Henry and Hook in the "high seas"? 

      Well, we already have Captain Ahab and presumably Moby Dick in 713, so I doubt it.

      You're saying that Monstro could appear in Knightfall or that you think he won't appear in any episode at all?

      I suppose he could double as Moby Dick in Knightfall. But Moby Dick is a much more recognizable name for "gigantic whale beast" and it's redundant to do a "gigantic whale beast" plot twice within three episodes, especially when we have no reason to believe they'll do anything Pinocchio related.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Could this bring a new iteration of Monstro, who attacks Henry and Hook in the "high seas"? 

      Well, we already have Captain Ahab and presumably Moby Dick in 713, so I doubt it.

      You're saying that Monstro could appear in Knightfall or that you think he won't appear in any episode at all?

      I suppose he could double as Moby Dick in Knightfall. But Moby Dick is a much more recognizable name for "gigantic whale beast" and it's redundant to do a "gigantic whale beast" plot twice within three episodes, especially when we have no reason to believe they'll do anything Pinocchio related.

      Yes, i agree after all. I got messed up because i never read Moby Dick. Whoops.

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Could this bring a new iteration of Monstro, who attacks Henry and Hook in the "high seas"? 

      Unless Monstro and Moby Dick are the same character, or are really either a shapeshifting Coven of the Eight witch, or the Jabberwock, I don't think we'll see both.

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    • An Ella-centric? I mean, Henry and Ella are suppose to be the lead couple, right? Can't give them nothing, right? ...................................

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      An Ella-centric? I mean, Henry and Ella are suppose to be the lead couple, right? Can't give them nothing, right? ...................................

      Oh, what if Henry and Ella are going to take the place of Hansel and Gretel and run across the (new) Blind Witch, who is a coven member! Then this all makes sense.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      An Ella-centric? I mean, Henry and Ella are suppose to be the lead couple, right? Can't give them nothing, right? ...................................

      Oh, what if Henry and Ella are going to take the place of Hansel and Gretel and run across the (new) Blind Witch, who is a coven member! Then this all makes sense.

      But how would that fit with the Hook and Henry high-seas adventure?

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      An Ella-centric? I mean, Henry and Ella are suppose to be the lead couple, right? Can't give them nothing, right? ...................................

      Oh, what if Henry and Ella are going to take the place of Hansel and Gretel and run across the (new) Blind Witch, who is a coven member! Then this all makes sense.

      But how would that fit with the Hook and Henry high-seas adventure?

      I think that Hansel and Gretel will be merpeople who enlist Henry and Hooks help in defeating an underwater Blind/Sea Witch.

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      An Ella-centric? I mean, Henry and Ella are suppose to be the lead couple, right? Can't give them nothing, right? ...................................

      Oh, what if Henry and Ella are going to take the place of Hansel and Gretel and run across the (new) Blind Witch, who is a coven member! Then this all makes sense.

      But how would that fit with the Hook and Henry high-seas adventure?

      I'm not sure. That still seems so odd to me in this episode, I'm almost wondering if something got mixed up somewhere. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      An Ella-centric? I mean, Henry and Ella are suppose to be the lead couple, right? Can't give them nothing, right? ...................................

      Oh, what if Henry and Ella are going to take the place of Hansel and Gretel and run across the (new) Blind Witch, who is a coven member! Then this all makes sense.

      But how would that fit with the Hook and Henry high-seas adventure?

      I'm not sure. That still seems so odd to me in this episode, I'm almost wondering if something got mixed up somewhere. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

      Maybe the (new) Blind Witch lives on a far-away island and Henry and Whook need to take a ship to get there.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      An Ella-centric? I mean, Henry and Ella are suppose to be the lead couple, right? Can't give them nothing, right? ...................................

      Oh, what if Henry and Ella are going to take the place of Hansel and Gretel and run across the (new) Blind Witch, who is a coven member! Then this all makes sense.

      But how would that fit with the Hook and Henry high-seas adventure?

      I'm not sure. That still seems so odd to me in this episode, I'm almost wondering if something got mixed up somewhere. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

      Yes! When Eddy announced what this episode would be, i was like: "i thought this would be exactly what Knightfall is about"?

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    • If this is Henry and Hook, I almost wonder if this will kind of be like the vinette episode they wanted to do in Season 6, where Henry talks about how he helped people in SB before he left, thus giving us breadcrumbs to what happened in those stories.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote: If this is Henry and Hook, I almost wonder if this will kind of be like the vinette episode they wanted to do in Season 6, where Henry talks about how he helped people in SB before he left, thus giving us breadcrumbs to what happened in those stories.

      Or they’ll be searching for the Breadcrumbs of Myx, which has immense magical power....

      Probably a standard tale that leads to a witch. I doubt they’ll have Henry talk to random Not-Hook about stuff he doesn’t know or care about.

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote: If this is Henry and Hook, I almost wonder if this will kind of be like the vinette episode they wanted to do in Season 6, where Henry talks about how he helped people in SB before he left, thus giving us breadcrumbs to what happened in those stories.

      Or they’ll be searching for the Breadcrumbs of Myx, which has immense magical power....

      Probably a standard tale that leads to a witch. I doubt they’ll have Henry talk to random Not-Hook about stuff he doesn’t know or care about.

      Yeah, this whole episode has just gotten me so confused with the Henry and Hook comment. Like I said before, even if they said something like Henry and Ella, that would have made sense because they could be Hansel and Gretel standins, but Henry and Hook and a sea adventure, when this should relate to a Hansel and Gretel story. I just don't know.

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    • I think I said this already, but it seems like Hook is getting too many episodes for my tastes. He already got 2 in the first half of the season, and he's getting 2 more. Well, this might be interesting at least, because it will likely be the very last Hook-centric (of any Hook) on the show!

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote: I think I said this already, but it seems like Hook is getting too many episodes for my tastes. He already got 2 in the first half of the season, and he's getting 2 more. Well, this might be interesting at least, because it will likely be the very last Hook-centric (of any Hook) on the show!

      Maybe a bombshell revelation will be dropped. Perhaps Alice is only his oldest child and he has others that he might not know about.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote: I think I said this already, but it seems like Hook is getting too many episodes for my tastes. He already got 2 in the first half of the season, and he's getting 2 more. Well, this might be interesting at least, because it will likely be the very last Hook-centric (of any Hook) on the show!

      Maybe a bombshell revelation will be dropped. Perhaps Alice is only his oldest child and he has others that he might not know about.

      I'm pretty sure that makes no sense.

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    • Charles Mesure just posted this today, saying that he put on the pirate outfit "recently." It's been like a good year since he last filmed an episode, so if it is......I guess Blackbeard will be back https://twitter.com/CMesure/status/965287367677378560

      Maybe in this episode since Captain Ahab will be in 7x13?

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    • I can't believe they're just getting rid of the big bad of 7A (Drizella). Like, it's different with arc villains, like Ingrid, but Drizella wasn't an arc villain, if you get me, she wasn't there just to fill the plot.

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    • The Great Sorcerer wrote: I can't believe they're just getting rid of the big bad of 7A (Drizella). Like, it's different with arc villains, like Ingrid, but Drizella wasn't an arc villain, if you get me, she wasn't there just to fill the plot.

      By definition, yes, she was. Gothel was the Big Bad, Drizzy and Rappy were secondary villains.

      Let’s not discuss this on this thread as 15 is her last appearance (I’m sure).

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      The Great Sorcerer wrote: I can't believe they're just getting rid of the big bad of 7A (Drizella). Like, it's different with arc villains, like Ingrid, but Drizella wasn't an arc villain, if you get me, she wasn't there just to fill the plot.

      By definition, yes, she was. Gothel was the Big Bad, Drizzy and Rappy were secondary villains.

      Let’s not discuss this on this thread as 15 is her last appearance (I’m sure).

      Eh, you're probably right.

      Oh, and sorry. xD

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      Charles Mesure just posted this today, saying that he put on the pirate outfit "recently." It's been like a good year since he last filmed an episode, so if it is......I guess Blackbeard will be back https://twitter.com/CMesure/status/965287367677378560

      Maybe in this episode since Captain Ahab will be in 7x13?

      I guess Blackbeard found his way out of Neverland and to the EF-2.

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      Charles Mesure just posted this today, saying that he put on the pirate outfit "recently." It's been like a good year since he last filmed an episode, so if it is......I guess Blackbeard will be back https://twitter.com/CMesure/status/965287367677378560

      Maybe in this episode since Captain Ahab will be in 7x13?

      Hopefully that's just an old picture. Blackbeard is one of the most pointless characters, imo. I don't get why he has to randomly appear every season lol

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      Charles Mesure just posted this today, saying that he put on the pirate outfit "recently." It's been like a good year since he last filmed an episode, so if it is......I guess Blackbeard will be back https://twitter.com/CMesure/status/965287367677378560

      Maybe in this episode since Captain Ahab will be in 7x13?

      Yeah, that makes the most sense, since this episode has Hook and Henry on the high seas.

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    • Calibaz wrote:

      I guess Blackbeard found his way out of Neverland and to the EF-2.

      Wish!Blackbeard making his way to the EF2 with the Wish!Jolly Roger would probably make an equal amount of sense. 

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      Calibaz wrote:

      I guess Blackbeard found his way out of Neverland and to the EF-2.

      Wish!Blackbeard making his way to the EF2 with the Wish!Jolly Roger would probably make an equal amount of sense. 

      Wish Blackbeard should be an old man if we're going by the current timeline.

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    • Calibaz wrote:

      JennaMae wrote:
      Calibaz wrote:

      I guess Blackbeard found his way out of Neverland and to the EF-2.

      Wish!Blackbeard making his way to the EF2 with the Wish!Jolly Roger would probably make an equal amount of sense. 

      Wish Blackbeard should be an old man if we're going by the current timeline.

      They could say he was in Neverland. Wish Hook aged because he never didn't travel to Neverland (I think) and stayed to protect Alice.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:

      Calibaz wrote:

      JennaMae wrote:
      Calibaz wrote:

      I guess Blackbeard found his way out of Neverland and to the EF-2.

      Wish!Blackbeard making his way to the EF2 with the Wish!Jolly Roger would probably make an equal amount of sense. 

      Wish Blackbeard should be an old man if we're going by the current timeline.

      They could say he was in Neverland. Wish Hook aged because he never didn't travel to Neverland (I think) and stayed to protect Alice.

      I think Rapunzel cursed him with a fairy wand to be old.

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    • How did everyone come to the conclusion this episode is a Hansel and Gretel episode or a Hook and Henry episode? I personally don't want another Blind Witch/"kid eater", since I quite liked the original. I think the clues theory sounds good, or even a semi-vignette episode where we get the "breadcrumbs" of other happy endings/beginnings.

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      How did everyone come to the conclusion this episode is a Hansel and Gretel episode or a Hook and Henry episode? I personally don't want another Blind Witch/"kid eater", since I quite liked the original. I think the clues theory sounds good, or even a semi-vignette episode where we get the "breadcrumbs" of other happy endings/beginnings.

      Hansel and Gretel: The name of the episode

      Hook and Henry: confirmed by A&E

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    • Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Leroiblanc wrote:
      How did everyone come to the conclusion this episode is a Hansel and Gretel episode or a Hook and Henry episode? I personally don't want another Blind Witch/"kid eater", since I quite liked the original. I think the clues theory sounds good, or even a semi-vignette episode where we get the "breadcrumbs" of other happy endings/beginnings.
      Hansel and Gretel: The name of the episode

      Hook and Henry: confirmed by A&E

      Source of them saying that? Because I want that episode xD

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    • The Great Sorcerer wrote:

      Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Leroiblanc wrote:
      How did everyone come to the conclusion this episode is a Hansel and Gretel episode or a Hook and Henry episode? I personally don't want another Blind Witch/"kid eater", since I quite liked the original. I think the clues theory sounds good, or even a semi-vignette episode where we get the "breadcrumbs" of other happy endings/beginnings.
      Hansel and Gretel: The name of the episode

      Hook and Henry: confirmed by A&E

      Source of them saying that? Because I want that episode xD

      One of the last spoiler rooms. Check Storybrooke Mirror for that.

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    • The Great Sorcerer wrote:
      Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Leroiblanc wrote:
      How did everyone come to the conclusion this episode is a Hansel and Gretel episode or a Hook and Henry episode? I personally don't want another Blind Witch/"kid eater", since I quite liked the original. I think the clues theory sounds good, or even a semi-vignette episode where we get the "breadcrumbs" of other happy endings/beginnings.
      Hansel and Gretel: The name of the episode

      Hook and Henry: confirmed by A&E

      Source of them saying that? Because I want that episode xD

      http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/25/spoiler-room-flash-once-upon-time-brooklyn/

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    • Thanks! I assume then this episode is where we'll meet Captain Ahab. 

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      Thanks! I assume then this episode is where we'll meet Captain Ahab. 

      Nope, Captain Ahab will appear in Knightfall (episode 13).

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    • Oh, ook! I hope this sea adventure is interesting. 

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      Oh, ook! I hope this sea adventure is interesting. 

      Also hope it's not full of bad CGI sets xD

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      How did everyone come to the conclusion this episode is a Hansel and Gretel episode or a Hook and Henry episode? I personally don't want another Blind Witch/"kid eater", since I quite liked the original. I think the clues theory sounds good, or even a semi-vignette episode where we get the "breadcrumbs" of other happy endings/beginnings.

      Hansel and Gretel is just fan speculation, but not just because of the episode title. We also know the coven witches will be "iconic witches from Disney and/or fairytale lore" per Adam and Eddy, and the witch from Hansel and Gretel would fit that. Plus, Hansel and Gretel fits with the stories they are redoing this season, ones that got very little focus in the first six seasons.

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    • Trying to figure out the FBs. I think this will be WHook and Henry doing something. Still not super clear about this episode. It should be during the 8 years Drizella is frozen.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Trying to figure out the FBs. I think this will be WHook and Henry doing something. Still not super clear about this episode. It should be during the 8 years Drizella is frozen.

      It was confirmed it will show their adventure in the high seas.

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Trying to figure out the FBs. I think this will be WHook and Henry doing something. Still not super clear about this episode. It should be during the 8 years Drizella is frozen.
      It was confirmed it will show their adventure in the high seas.

      Yeah, but the context of why they are doing that.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Trying to figure out the FBs. I think this will be WHook and Henry doing something. Still not super clear about this episode. It should be during the 8 years Drizella is frozen.
      It was confirmed it will show their adventure in the high seas.
      Yeah, but the context of why they are doing that.

      Perhaps they are in a quest to find / collect something that is in the high seas?

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Trying to figure out the FBs. I think this will be WHook and Henry doing something. Still not super clear about this episode. It should be during the 8 years Drizella is frozen.
      It was confirmed it will show their adventure in the high seas.
      Yeah, but the context of why they are doing that.
      Perhaps they are in a quest to find / collect something that is in the high seas?

      I would think it would be something to that effect, but even then I'm curious as to what. Hopefully it is something interesting, and possibly from Hansel and Gretel (although that doesn't really have many iconic objects).

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    • Might be the part 2 of episode 13. Maybe...

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    • I do like this idea, but if it's like a 2 parter (with a couple of episodes in-between), this means that Knightfall has Henry and Cinderella too, so WHook is around the time he joined the resistance, I would be pleased by this, because it means more Henry and Cinderella, not just Hook action. Also, I think they should fill in the blanks of the main flashback storyline of the season.

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    • Here is a theory I have they pertains to this episode, in case anyone was interested:

      http://onceuponatime.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:362700

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    • While I was watching the promo for 712, I noticed that the dead body is wearing an apron. I think this must be the Witch from Hansel and Gretel. Thoughts?

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    • OUAT: The Darkness wrote:
      While I was watching the promo for 712, I noticed that the dead body is wearing an apron. I think this must be the Witch from Hansel and Gretel. Thoughts?

      If the witches jobs in HH correspond to their personas in NEF, then that makes sense.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:

      OUAT: The Darkness wrote:
      While I was watching the promo for 712, I noticed that the dead body is wearing an apron. I think this must be the Witch from Hansel and Gretel. Thoughts?

      If the witches jobs in HH correspond to their personas in NEF, then that makes sense.

      This is also why I believe Dr. Sage was Baba Yaga.

      Edit: Scratch that, she is most likely Yzma since Yzma is a Witch DOCTOR, plus the actress is part Latin American.

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    • Well, we have what appears to be the new iteration of Hansel and Gretel's blind witch confirmed in 712, so I definitly think we can see some of that story in this episode's FBs. Probably focusing more on Hansel and Gretel than the witch.

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    • So Hilda isn't dead yet. I bet she will reappear in this episode in present day (and also possibly in FB).

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      So Hilda isn't dead yet. I bet she will reappear in this episode in present day (and also possibly in FB).

      I'm 101% percent sure this ep's storyline is involved with Hansel and Gretel, but i can't see how Henry and Nook's high sea-adventure could be involved with Hansel and Gretel. I mean... wtf?

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      So Hilda isn't dead yet. I bet she will reappear in this episode in present day (and also possibly in FB).
      I'm 101% percent sure this ep's storyline is involved with Hansel and Gretel, but i can't see how Henry and Nook's high sea-adventure could be involved with Hansel and Gretel. I mean... wtf?

      Wellllll........if Jack doubles as the "Hansel" and is the 3rd male in the EF2 squad, then it pieces together. I'm more sold on Jack being the killer than Jack being Hansel specifically, but if there is more to Jack, this would be the only episode in which he could get a centric-ish treatment, as the other episode focuses seem pretty clear.

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      So Hilda isn't dead yet. I bet she will reappear in this episode in present day (and also possibly in FB).
      I'm 101% percent sure this ep's storyline is involved with Hansel and Gretel, but i can't see how Henry and Nook's high sea-adventure could be involved with Hansel and Gretel. I mean... wtf?
      Wellllll........if Jack doubles as the "Hansel" and is the 3rd male in the EF2 squad, then it pieces together. I'm more sold on Jack being the killer than Jack being Hansel specifically, but if there is more to Jack, this would be the only episode in which he could get a centric-ish treatment, as the other episode focuses seem pretty clear.

      Well, Jack being Hansel would be his motive to be the killer.

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    • Maybe Hook and Henry’s adventure has to do with finding Naveen, and somehow they are involved with the Blind Witch...? I can’t see how she fits into all of this.

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    • TheRose123 wrote:
      Maybe Hook and Henry’s adventure has to do with finding Naveen, and somehow they are involved with the Blind Witch...? I can’t see how she fits into all of this.

      Well, she is a part of the Coven, which was promised to be the main villains of Season 7B.

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      TheRose123 wrote:
      Maybe Hook and Henry’s adventure has to do with finding Naveen, and somehow they are involved with the Blind Witch...? I can’t see how she fits into all of this.

      Well, she is a part of the Coven, which was promised to be the main villains of Season 7B.

      I meant I didn’t know how she would fit in with Hook/Henry’s adventure.

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    • TheRose123 wrote:

      Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      TheRose123 wrote:
      Maybe Hook and Henry’s adventure has to do with finding Naveen, and somehow they are involved with the Blind Witch...? I can’t see how she fits into all of this.
      Well, she is a part of the Coven, which was promised to be the main villains of Season 7B.

      I meant I didn’t know how she would fit in with Hook/Henry’s adventure.

      I'm confused too... When they said this would be a Henry-Hook adventure i was like... "WTF"? Since i was 100% sure they would do a new iteration of Hansel and Gretel.

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      TheRose123 wrote:

      Lady Rapunzel wrote:


      TheRose123 wrote:
      Maybe Hook and Henry’s adventure has to do with finding Naveen, and somehow they are involved with the Blind Witch...? I can’t see how she fits into all of this.
      Well, she is a part of the Coven, which was promised to be the main villains of Season 7B.
      I meant I didn’t know how she would fit in with Hook/Henry’s adventure.
      I'm confused too... When they said this would be a Henry-Hook adventure i was like... "WTF"? Since i was 100% sure they would do a new iteration of Hansel and Gretel.

      Maybe the Blind Witch lives on distant island and Henry and Hook need to take a ship to get there (the high seas adventure). They arrive at her gingerbread house, and become the new iteration of Hansel and Gretel.

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    • Calibaz wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      TheRose123 wrote:

      Lady Rapunzel wrote:


      TheRose123 wrote:
      Maybe Hook and Henry’s adventure has to do with finding Naveen, and somehow they are involved with the Blind Witch...? I can’t see how she fits into all of this.
      Well, she is a part of the Coven, which was promised to be the main villains of Season 7B.
      I meant I didn’t know how she would fit in with Hook/Henry’s adventure.
      I'm confused too... When they said this would be a Henry-Hook adventure i was like... "WTF"? Since i was 100% sure they would do a new iteration of Hansel and Gretel.
      Maybe the Blind Witch lives on distant island and Henry and Hook need to take a ship to get there (the high seas adventure). They arrive at her gingerbread house, and become the new iteration of Hansel and Gretel.

      I dunno... The Gingerbread House is supposed to be in the middle of the woods and... if she's in a distant island, how would she be a part of the Coven?

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    • Well, it's not like Gothel can't teleport there. And you're assuming that there can't be a forest on an island?

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    • Calibaz wrote: Well, it's not like Gothel can't teleport there. And you're assuming that there can't be a forest on an island?

      Yeah,...or just a different region. After all, these are worlds, not everything is in walkable distance (though funny enough everything in NEF has been in walka....)

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    • It's possible we'll be getting the Blind Witch without getting a direct Hansel & Gretel. Think Regina Rising -- Regina and Claire went to the Blind Witch's cottage, but they weren't Hansel & Gretel. If Henry and Hook encounter the Blind Witch somewhere and see that she's a child-eating blind baker, it's enough to connect the dots.

      I mean, that's basically what they did in present-day of 712.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      It's possible we'll be getting the Blind Witch without getting a direct Hansel & Gretel. Think Regina Rising -- Regina and Claire went to the Blind Witch's cottage, but they weren't Hansel & Gretel. If Henry and Hook encounter the Blind Witch somewhere and see that she's a child-eating blind baker, it's enough to connect the dots.

      I mean, that's basically what they did in present-day of 712.

      Yeah, I don't think we'd be getting a random Hansel and Gretel, even Jack as Hansel is a stretch. 

      I think it's far more possible that breadcrumbs is simply figurative and that's it.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      It's possible we'll be getting the Blind Witch without getting a direct Hansel & Gretel. Think Regina Rising -- Regina and Claire went to the Blind Witch's cottage, but they weren't Hansel & Gretel. If Henry and Hook encounter the Blind Witch somewhere and see that she's a child-eating blind baker, it's enough to connect the dots.

      I mean, that's basically what they did in present-day of 712.

      Yeah, I don't think we'd be getting a random Hansel and Gretel, even Jack as Hansel is a stretch. 

      I think it's far more possible that breadcrumbs is simply figurative and that's it.

      We could get the Blind Witch without Hansel and Gretel, but I don't think it is a coincidence that this title refers to a significant thing in that story. At the very least, I think Hilda will appear in present day, since she isn't dead yet. I don't think they just happened to use Breadcrumbs as the title, when they could have used 100 other ways to say it or something similar (Connecting The Dots, Follow The Evidence, Detective Work, Killer Surprise, etc.), without realizing that Breadcrumbs would draw people to the Hansel and Gretel story, especially given that we have a New Blind Witch.

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    • IMDB is now listing Charles Mensure (Black Beard) as appearing in this episode, which fits with that post we found about him a while back saying he had recently filmed as a pirate.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      IMDB is now listing Charles Mensure (Black Beard) as appearing in this episode, which fits with that post we found about him a while back saying he had recently filmed as a pirate.

      It seems that the familiar faces that aren't in the final three episodes happen to be pirates...

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    • Yay! Blackbeard!

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      IMDB is now listing Charles Mensure (Black Beard) as appearing in this episode, which fits with that post we found about him a while back saying he had recently filmed as a pirate.
      It seems that the familiar faces that aren't in the final three episodes happen to be pirates...

      Yeah, it's funny how that is working out.

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    • Wish Blackbeard or Real Blackbeard? This is really the most important question eva!

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    • Just in case they really ruin 17 and not have a Witch there, which is really possible with these guys....I say we see all the witches in the past in this episode, whether cloaked, named, offscreen or not.

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    • I hope this episode explains why Jack is the killer (assuming he is), although I still think it is because he is Hansel. I'm trying to figure out how they tie that into Henry and WHook running into Black Beard in FB though.

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    • Jack might be Hansel or just an allusion to him and maybe just the Giant Killer.

      I do think a Witch could easily be a Giantess (given magic could do things like that).

      I just realized that we still don’t know who Dr. Sage is. How unfortunate.

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    • Well, Gretel exists so we’ll have more by Friday!

      If Gretel is a Witch (most likely), then who’s the Blind Witch then? Maybe Gretel sacrifices Hansel if Jack isn’t Hansel (or maybe she thought she did.

      The Flashback is probably just randomly divided into 2-3 major parts. Hook and Henry, but a focus on Gretel/Jack.

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    • If Gretel is a Witch (most likely), then who’s the Blind Witch then? Maybe Gretel sacrifices Hansel if Jack isn’t Hansel (or maybe she thought she did.

      What do you mean? Hilda is the Blind Witch.

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      If Gretel is a Witch (most likely), then who’s the Blind Witch then? Maybe Gretel sacrifices Hansel if Jack isn’t Hansel (or maybe she thought she did.

      What do you mean? Hilda is the Blind Witch.

      Who is she in terms of the story? Is she’s Gretel’s Blind Witch? How has the story changed? Are they working together, etc

      I know who Hilda is.

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    • I wonder if Hook and Henry found out that Jack was a witch hunter before the curse was cast and were just okay with it, since everyone was on edge about Drizella and the coven. Killing people in HH paints him as a villain, but if they were Gothel's witches, he'd be heroic, right? 

      And whatever 7x16 flashbacks they show will be pre-curse, and Jack was still standing with the resistence as it hit, so if this episode is about Hook and Henry on an adventure seeking the truth about Jack (or something of the sort), it doesn't seem like they uncovered anything "bad"...... though I guess Jack could've also misled them. Hmm.

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    • Titled “Breadcrumbs,” the 149th episode “is an epic adventure on the high seas with Henry and Hook as they venture into stormy waters more dangerous than they could possibly imagine,” executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis tease.

      I guess they are after Blackbeard, and "breadcrumbs" means hints for a detective action, so that they did in the past what Henry and Rogers are trying to do in the present: working together to find the killer and protecting Alice. Maybe Blackbeard has a coursed persona in Seattle too. Or he has something useful or is aware of something.

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    • Bottondoro wrote:
      Titled “Breadcrumbs,” the 149th episode “is an epic adventure on the high seas with Henry and Hook as they venture into stormy waters more dangerous than they could possibly imagine,” executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis tease.

      I guess they are after Blackbeard, and "breadcrumbs" means hints for a detective action, so that they did in the past what Henry and Rogers are trying to do in the present: working together to find the killer and protecting Alice. Maybe Blackbeard has a coursed persona in Seattle too. Or he has something useful or is aware of something.

      They already proved that Alice wasn't the killer. 

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    • So Breadcrumbs definitly at least partially has to do with the Hansel and Gretel story now, I think.

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:

      Bottondoro wrote:
      Titled “Breadcrumbs,” the 149th episode “is an epic adventure on the high seas with Henry and Hook as they venture into stormy waters more dangerous than they could possibly imagine,” executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis tease.

      I guess they are after Blackbeard, and "breadcrumbs" means hints for a detective action, so that they did in the past what Henry and Rogers are trying to do in the present: working together to find the killer and protecting Alice. Maybe Blackbeard has a coursed persona in Seattle too. Or he has something useful or is aware of something.

      They already proved that Alice wasn't the killer. 

      Sure. I meant protecting Alice in the past. Hook failed when he tried to let her go free from the tower, and plus he has gained the curse of the poisoned heart. He is now aware of his mistake and goes (with Henry's help) searching for the fishhook being in another pirate's hands. And Breadcrumbs means detecting the real killer.

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    • Do u think this episode Hilda is gonna return?

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    • Truest Believer wrote: Do u think this episode Hilda is gonna return?

      I want to see her as the Blind Witch !

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    • Truest Believer wrote:
      Do u think this episode Hilda is gonna return?

      Well, i hope so! Hopefully Chilton (Crane, who portrays her) wasn't caught in filmings 'cause her NEF scenes were in studio. 

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    • Truest Believer wrote:
      Do u think this episode Hilda is gonna return?

      One would hope she would, given the episode title.

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    • This may be Jack/Hansel's last episode, probably. And Gretel possibly reappears.

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    • It’s oretty sad that they pretty much didn’t give Henry any friends.

      All he had was a clone of step-dad and one guy who might be a really, really bad friend. It’s like the writers heard how we thought Henry should get a friend before a girlfriend and so they gave him a friend...which apparently is a murderous, opportunistic guy.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      This may be Jack/Hansel's last episode, probably. And Gretel possibly reappears.

      What if Nick dies in 7x15 (possibly by Gothel?) and appears only in flashbacks as Jack/Hansel in 7x16?

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      This may be Jack/Hansel's last episode, probably. And Gretel possibly reappears.

      What if Nick dies in 7x15 (possibly by Gothel?) and appears only in flashbacks as Jack/Hansel in 7x16?

      I think they’d imprison him rather than kill off everyone, depending on how evil he is and he probably isn’t.

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      This may be Jack/Hansel's last episode, probably. And Gretel possibly reappears.
      What if Nick dies in 7x15 (possibly by Gothel?) and appears only in flashbacks as Jack/Hansel in 7x16?
      I think they’d imprison him rather than kill off everyone, depending on how evil he is and he probably isn’t.

      Yeah, perhaps this episode is about Rogers and Weaver trying to catch him as he escapes at the end of 7x15... Ultimately Henry talks to him and he realizes he did horrible things and turns himself in.

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    • I think Hook will encounter an underwater Coven Witch in this episode.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      I think Hook will encounter an underwater Coven Witch in this episode.

      If so, it may be new iteration of Ursula, Circe or Calypso

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    • Hey, I could't watch the episode, I was busy. Can someone tell me what happened?

      P.S: Drizella's fate? News about the coven? Who was the killer? Cliffhanger? 

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    • Truest Believer wrote:
      Hey, I could't watch the episode, I was busy. Can someone tell me what happened?

      Off-topic, go here .

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    • So this will be the episode Jack is confirmed to be Hansel, which (given what happened to Gretel), explains why he wants to kill the witches. I'm so happy we guessed right!

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      So this will be the episode Jack is confirmed to be Hansel, which (given what happened to Gretel), explains why he wants to kill the witches. I'm so happy we guessed right!

      Sad that Gretel is dead though.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      So this will be the episode Jack is confirmed to be Hansel, which (given what happened to Gretel), explains why he wants to kill the witches. I'm so happy we guessed right!

      Wait. He was confirmed as the killer? I can't believe that we actually guessed it right...

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    • Blackbeard AND Smee actually coming back...But is this our Blackbeard or New Blackbeard? 

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      Blackbeard AND Smee actually coming back...But is this our Blackbeard or New Blackbeard? 

      It's prolly W!Blackbeard, just like W!Hook and W!Smee. New Blackbeard would be a new actor. 

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Leroiblanc wrote:
      Blackbeard AND Smee actually coming back...But is this our Blackbeard or New Blackbeard? 
      It's prolly W!Blackbeard, just like W!Hook and W!Smee. New Blackbeard would be a new actor. 

      Oops, I meant wish blackbeard but like wish hook like new hook who is nook and...

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Leroiblanc wrote:
      Blackbeard AND Smee actually coming back...But is this our Blackbeard or New Blackbeard? 
      It's prolly W!Blackbeard, just like W!Hook and W!Smee. New Blackbeard would be a new actor. 
      Oops, I meant wish blackbeard but like wish hook like new hook who is nook and...

      Yeah, i got it. It's because things are so messy, like, EF version, NEF version, WR alternate version, (my head can't stand it.) LOL

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    • Wow, we really followed the breadcrumbs on this one guys. 

      I'm excited to see how Nick will explain his...murders. I hope it's well done and has like sympathy and stuff (we can figure out why he did it pretty easily, but like I want to see a well done, sympathetic, emotional confession of why and stuff...or at least something on the lines of Mary Margaret in season two...). 

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote: I think Hook will encounter an underwater Coven Witch in this episode.

      Like another Ursula

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    • Alearypll1 wrote:

      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote: I think Hook will encounter an underwater Coven Witch in this episode.

      Like another Ursula

      They said there wouldn't be another Ursula (or at least not another little mermaid adaptation so I assume that includes Ursula...plus they already had her twice basically). 

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:

      Alearypll1 wrote:

      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote: I think Hook will encounter an underwater Coven Witch in this episode.

      Like another Ursula

      They said there wouldn't be another Ursula (or at least not another little mermaid adaptation so I assume that includes Ursula...plus they already had her twice basically). 

      True

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    • Good job to everyone who called the various things about this episode since we initally got the title, by the way! Glad we are so good at figuring stuff out!

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    • Alearypll1 wrote:

      Leroiblanc wrote:

      Alearypll1 wrote:

      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote: I think Hook will encounter an underwater Coven Witch in this episode.

      Like another Ursula

      They said there wouldn't be another Ursula (or at least not another little mermaid adaptation so I assume that includes Ursula...plus they already had her twice basically). 

      True

      Not another Ursula. More like a siren mermaid or sea goddess.

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    • So, do we think Henry's poisoned heart is going to be cured in this episode? Or will Regina's magic bottle be used for something else?

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    • I really don't know what this episode has to do with tying Henry's hero complex with Nick killing witches. I mean, I guess he sees himself as the hero and he's obviously Hansel, but....okay.

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    • All villains see themselves as the hero, in most cases (like here) Nick is a psycho who's out for revenge.

      And thank God this is not another boring Hook flashback, it's about Henry! Obviously Rogers is important because of the case. Wonder when Tiana will return, and how will they deal with the killer...

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    • We've got few episodes left for the Coven of Not-Eight to be finalized.

      Gothel, Ivy, Sage, Braeburn, Leota, and two more. Please just toss Calypso or Circe or whomever into this episode as even a one scene toss away. We only got 16 to 18 before I feel that the writers did indeed do the "Shift" that they always do every season.

      If there's no witch, the flashback is throwaway (but a plus for Henry's sake which makes it a good thing). The present will resolve crazy Hansel, Jack, Nick, Tootles or whomever he is.....gosh they have a lot of triple named characters.

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    • LOL, true.

      But I think "Chosen" will likely have some witches, or I dare say the identity of Andrea Sage.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      LOL, true.

      But I think "Chosen" will likely have some witches, or I dare say the identity of Andrea Sage.

      The only thing I've got on that is:

      Sage --> Wisdom

      Wisdom is the trait of the Good Witch of the North

      GW of the North's counterpart if the WW of the North, Mombi.

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      LOL, true.

      But I think "Chosen" will likely have some witches, or I dare say the identity of Andrea Sage.

      The only thing I've got on that is:

      Sage --> Wisdom

      Wisdom is the trait of the Good Witch of the North

      GW of the North's counterpart if the WW of the North, Mombi.

      Also, she was having a green drink = Oz related? I'm not that smart, I admit, I don't notice all the details so that's all I've got.

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    • I’m disappointed we haven’t really been getting much in the Coven after what seemed a big plot on them. I do agree that I think we won’t get much on the Coven in this episode, it will focus more on Henry and Nick

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    • So what do we think is the purpose of the FBs in this episode? And will we see Jack (Hansel) in the FB?

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    • My theory is that Jack's been kidnapped by the Blind Witch, and Henry and Whook go rescue him.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote: So what do we think is the purpose of the FBs in this episode? And will we see Jack (Hansel) in the FB?

      Henry’s obsession with being a hero will mimic Nick’s and Henry will tell Nick the moral of the episode.

      If they were decent they should toss in Jack killing a Witch/or that he targets in present day in flashback while Gothel is there with Calypso (and the soon-to-be-dead Witch).

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    • Watched the promo again. I noticed in one scene they are in a cave with lots of treasure. I wonder if this will be a specific place from a story, or just a generic hidden pirate's treasure lair.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote: Watched the promo again. I noticed in one scene they are in a cave with lots of treasure. I wonder if this will be a specific place from a story, or just a generic hidden pirate's treasure lair.

      Generic? Unless Blackbeard has a story or something. I don’t even know why those two are looking for buried treasure.

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    • The first treasure cave scene is early in the episode...because Ella is seen right behind Henry in those shots. Plus, Henry didn't learn the moral of the episode yet and it looks like Nook takes Henry on a fieldtrip.

      Snippets of the ship-bearing page:

      "and wasn't that reason, or a place to go.

      Suspicious

      She wasn't a drinker and read a book. 

      Her brother? Not a friend! Sex?

      Father to join him as it was a package overly confiden deal.

      Honey."

      Mispellings and ramblings of a guy who really deserved more screentime. If they are consistent on their props, it's probably telling a better story than the show, XD.

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    • There is a shot of the Jack wearing the mask in the promo

      Maybe he'll kill another witch in 7x16?

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      There is a shot of the Jack wearing the mask in the promo

      Maybe he'll kill another witch in 7x16?

      It looked like it was from 7x15, but Nick was facially angry, so I'm sure he's out for blood.

      Lol, Ivy is like the Seventh Witch and Jack didn't have a problem with Regina, so he must have went out of order otherwise, knowing the coven will go bye-bye.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      8Rob wrote:
      There is a shot of the Jack wearing the mask in the promo

      Maybe he'll kill another witch in 7x16?

      It looked like it was from 7x15, but Nick was facially angry, so I'm sure he's out for blood.

      Lol, Ivy is like the Seventh Witch and Jack didn't have a problem with Regina, so he must have went out of order otherwise, knowing the coven will go bye-bye.

      Surprised that Nick let Drizella escape to NEF, since she's the one who killed Gretel (at self defense, of course, but he does not know that). 

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      8Rob wrote:
      There is a shot of the Jack wearing the mask in the promo

      Maybe he'll kill another witch in 7x16?

      It looked like it was from 7x15, but Nick was facially angry, so I'm sure he's out for blood.

      Lol, Ivy is like the Seventh Witch and Jack didn't have a problem with Regina, so he must have went out of order otherwise, knowing the coven will go bye-bye.

      Surprised that Nick let Drizella escape to NEF, since she's the one who killed Gretel (at self defense, of course, but he does not know that). 

      He probably hates his sister's decisions, so...

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    • I was wondering since we can assume Nick is after the Coven. That would he go after Regina, though she was never officially apart of the Coven. She is helped initiate the curse, I doubt it. But I, hoping that if Nick does go after another witch in this episode, we actually learn a little bit about the Coven since the writers have been sort of vague about details other than they are powerful or more about his past.

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    • Avengingoncer wrote:
      I was wondering since we can assume Nick is after the Coven. That would he go after Regina, though she was never officially apart of the Coven. She is helped initiate the curse, I doubt it. But I, hoping that if Nick does go after another witch in this episode, we actually learn a little bit about the Coven since the writers have been sort of vague about details other than they are powerful or more about his past.

      But they are powerful and his past was told. (I don't agree with this statement, but I think the writers might.)

      We got two witches and two episodes lines up. Calypso..I mean, sea witch and Ozian witch. Or just Gothel saying names would be better than what we'll probably get, which is nothing.

      Nick's story is essentially, Hilda (most likely) tossed Hansel toward the oven. He got burned and was filled with hatred. Gretel was able to escape with Hansel. Hansel went by Jack for no known reason and he didn't agree with his sister's approach to "more magic" and he went around searching.....because he clearly didn't kill any of the Coven unless he targeted random witches.

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    • Is the place where the Jolly Roger sails Neverland? If it is, then it would be logical since that's where we last saw Black Beard. I mean, it can't be another iteration of Neverland and a Wish Realm version of Black Beard right?

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    • CadoDoan wrote:
      Is the place where the Jolly Roger sails Neverland? If it is, then it would be logical since that's where we last saw Black Beard. I mean, it can't be another iteration of Neverland and a Wish Realm version of Black Beard right?

      Blackbeard sailed from Neverland straight into WR. Or someone poofed him there because mistaken identity.

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    • I sort of wonder if Hansel/Jack wanted the curse to happen. In NEF, a magic user is very powerful, and hard to defeat by a non-magic user, but in HH the magic users have no magic, so they are a lot easier to kill.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      I sort of wonder if Hansel/Jack wanted the curse to happen. In NEF, a magic user is very powerful, and hard to defeat by a non-magic user, but in HH the magic users have no magic, so they are a lot easier to kill.

      I dunno. He poisoned the doctor while she wasn't expecting (Witches are human...usually, so they can't just wave their hand, right?). He killed a blind woman. He got beat up by a socialite. Not a pretty track record.

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    • Only because it makes for a better story...Nick went witch-kill crazy after a mellowing out due his his best bud, Henry Branson (whoops, slipped up there) was poisoned at the hands of the Coven.

      It would be cool to see that Henry really didn't have "adventures" with a murderous loon, but someone who was recovering from his issue's only for trauma to break him. Thus, in HH, Nick is avanging Henry's loss as well as falling back into his lust for revenge.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Only because it makes for a better story...Nick went witch-kill crazy after a mellowing out due his his best bud, Henry Branson (whoops, slipped up there) was poisoned at the hands of the Coven.

      It would be cool to see that Henry really didn't have "adventures" with a murderous loon, but someone who was recovering from his issue's only for trauma to break him. Thus, in HH, Nick is avanging Henry's loss as well as falling back into his lust for revenge.

      I'm totally here for this, if only because Hansel/Jack is probably our last chance to get a confirmed homosexual male on the show.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      Only because it makes for a better story...Nick went witch-kill crazy after a mellowing out due his his best bud, Henry Branson (whoops, slipped up there) was poisoned at the hands of the Coven.

      It would be cool to see that Henry really didn't have "adventures" with a murderous loon, but someone who was recovering from his issue's only for trauma to break him. Thus, in HH, Nick is avanging Henry's loss as well as falling back into his lust for revenge.

      I'm totally here for this, if only because Hansel/Jack is probably our last chance to get a confirmed homosexual male on the show.

      Following statement is sarcastic: Well, Nick is male, so I doubt they'll do it, but..hey, he is a minor character so maybe.

      Of course, I don't mean the above statement, but I think some could see it that way that the writers are avoiding that, especially with main characters. Since Ivy was present, I think the writers knew, even before much surveying that Ivy and Henry would likely grow too strong. I doubt they'll do that with Henry and Nick.

      I just want some form of plantonic bond to be the source of his downturn just because he seemed like a normal guy for the few episodes we've seen him and he's been aound a bunch of witches.

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    • I'm all for gay people on the show, but why can't we have some genuine male friendship? It's not the case here, but at least they teased some bromance between Henry and Nick, even if he is a killer an he wants to eliminate Henry (can't believe I'm saying something like this). Plus there is the bromance between Henry and Nook.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      I'm all for gay people on the show, but why can't we have some genuine male friendship? It's not the case here, but at least they teased some bromance between Henry and Nick, even if he is a killer an he wants to eliminate Henry (can't believe I'm saying something like this). Plus there is the bromance between Henry and Nook.

      That's what I was advocating for.....having Henry as the catalyst for Nick (HH)'s lust for revenge to kick back in gives depth to Nick, who's backstory we probably won't see.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      I'm all for gay people on the show, but why can't we have some genuine male friendship? It's not the case here, but at least they teased some bromance between Henry and Nick, even if he is a killer an he wants to eliminate Henry (can't believe I'm saying something like this). Plus there is the bromance between Henry and Nook.

      From Henry's side, I think he does view Hansel/Jack as a genuine friend. Right now it is Hansel/Jack's motives which we don't know. Did Hansel/Jack profess love to Henry, only for Henry to tell him he's not into dudes? Did Hansel/Jack get jealous of Henry and Ella's relationship, and decide he should be with her instead? Or is Hansel/Jack just using Henry to get something that can help him kill witches? We really don't know yet, but hopefully this episode answers that question.

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    • Or maybe he has dissociative identity disorder 

      One of them (Hansel) is the killer and the other one (Jack) is Henry's friend

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    • By the way, it seems he isn't after the coven, just witches overall

      Facilier said he was in danger, because he is a Witch Doctor. And he is not part of the coven

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    • He seems to target specific people, Regina is safe for some reason, but Henry is not... because Nick is into Jacinda?

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      He seems to target specific people, Regina is safe for some reason, but Henry is not... because Nick is into Jacinda?

      We don't know if Nick actually intends to hurt Henry though. 

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      He seems to target specific people, Regina is safe for some reason, but Henry is not... because Nick is into Jacinda?
      We don't know if Nick actually intends to hurt Henry though. 

      Yeah, the promo makes you think that, but I don't think the promo peeps actually watch the show because Henry's not a Witch, plus he's clueless. Unless, Nick is really messed up and obsessed with the Book and it's author, but I don't know what would lead him to be around for weeks and not target Henry, especially when he's been arms throw away and had many enemies.

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    • So does Jacinda actually believe now?

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      So does Jacinda actually believe now?

      I think she's starting too. It's like Emma's progression in season 1.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      So does Jacinda actually believe now?

      In love? Sure, but it's not like she believes Lucy or broke the curse.

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    • HENRY FACES A DANGEROUS REALITY & MARGOT SEEKS COMFORT IN TILLY ON ABC’S ‘ONCE UPON A TIME’

      “Breadcrumbs” – Henry grapples with an important decision when a job prospect in New York threatens to take him away from Jacinda and Lucy, but a revelation in the case of The Candy Killer could make it even harder to leave Hyperion Heights. Meanwhile, Margot confides in Tilly, and in a flashback, Hook helps Henry find a way to prove himself to Ella, on “Once Upon a Time,” FRIDAY, APRIL 6 (8:00–9:01p.m. EDT), on The ABC Television Network, streaming and on demand.

      “Once Upon a Time” stars Lana Parrilla as Regina/Roni, Robert Carlyle as Rumpelstiltskin/Weaver, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook/Rogers, Andrew J. West as Henry Mills, Dania Ramirez as Cinderella/Jacinda, Alison Fernandez as Lucy, and Mekia Cox as Sabine/Tiana.

      Guest starring in this episode are Rebecca Mader as Zelena/Kelly, Rose Reynolds as Alice/Tilly, Tiera Skovbye as Robin/Margot, Nathan Parsons as Nick Branson/Jack, Chrispher Gauthier as Smee and Charles Mesure as Blackbeard.

      “Breadcrumbs” was written by Jane Espenson & Jerome Schwartz, and directed by Ron Underwood.

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    • I'm guessing the FB takes place before he and Ella get together then? Cause it'd be kind of awkward if Henry still has to prove himself to his wife.

      Does anyone feel this might be Nick's last episode, and that he dies or just goes to jail?

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      HENRY FACES A DANGEROUS REALITY & MARGOT SEEKS COMFORT IN TILLY ON ABC’S ‘ONCE UPON A TIME’

      “Breadcrumbs” – Henry grapples with an important decision when a job prospect in New York threatens to take him away from Jacinda and Lucy, but a revelation in the case of The Candy Killer could make it even harder to leave Hyperion Heights. Meanwhile, Margot confides in Tilly, and in a flashback, Hook helps Henry find a way to prove himself to Ella, on “Once Upon a Time,” FRIDAY, APRIL 6 (8:00–9:01p.m. EDT), on The ABC Television Network, streaming and on demand.

      “Once Upon a Time” stars Lana Parrilla as Regina/Roni, Robert Carlyle as Rumpelstiltskin/Weaver, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook/Rogers, Andrew J. West as Henry Mills, Dania Ramirez as Cinderella/Jacinda, Alison Fernandez as Lucy, and Mekia Cox as Sabine/Tiana.

      Guest starring in this episode are Rebecca Mader as Zelena/Kelly, Rose Reynolds as Alice/Tilly, Tiera Skovbye as Robin/Margot, Nathan Parsons as Nick Branson/Jack, Chrispher Gauthier as Smee and Charles Mesure as Blackbeard.

      “Breadcrumbs” was written by Jane Espenson & Jerome Schwartz, and directed by Ron Underwood.

      Not surprising at all.

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    • I’m a little frustrating that they donkt dwell in more of Henry’s Author abilities. Like having him meeting Scheherazade the Storyteller and Sinbad the Sailor with Hook would be much cooler.

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    • Calibaz wrote:
      I'm guessing the FB takes place before he and Ella get together then? Cause it'd be kind of awkward if Henry still has to prove himself to his wife.

      Does anyone feel this might be Nick's last episode, and that he dies or just goes to jail?

      It's definitely his last episode. 

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      HENRY FACES A DANGEROUS REALITY & MARGOT SEEKS COMFORT IN TILLY ON ABC’S ‘ONCE UPON A TIME’

      “Breadcrumbs” – Henry grapples with an important decision when a job prospect in New York threatens to take him away from Jacinda and Lucy, but a revelation in the case of The Candy Killer could make it even harder to leave Hyperion Heights. Meanwhile, Margot confides in Tilly, and in a flashback, Hook helps Henry find a way to prove himself to Ella, on “Once Upon a Time,” FRIDAY, APRIL 6 (8:00–9:01p.m. EDT), on The ABC Television Network, streaming and on demand.

      “Once Upon a Time” stars Lana Parrilla as Regina/Roni, Robert Carlyle as Rumpelstiltskin/Weaver, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook/Rogers, Andrew J. West as Henry Mills, Dania Ramirez as Cinderella/Jacinda, Alison Fernandez as Lucy, and Mekia Cox as Sabine/Tiana.

      Guest starring in this episode are Rebecca Mader as Zelena/Kelly, Rose Reynolds as Alice/Tilly, Tiera Skovbye as Robin/Margot, Nathan Parsons as Nick Branson/Jack, Chrispher Gauthier as Smee and Charles Mesure as Blackbeard.

      “Breadcrumbs” was written by Jane Espenson & Jerome Schwartz, and directed by Ron Underwood.

      So we suppose this is Wish(verse) Blackbeard?

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    • Looking forward to Tilly/Margot and the revelation on Jack as the Candy Killer!

      Hopefully flas