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  • So it is confirmed the other witches will be known characters, so let's guess who they are!

    Here is what we know for sure:

    To cast the curse, the witches are Gothel, Drizella, Regina, and 5 other unknown witches.

    In present day, the witches are Gothel, Anastasia, and 6 other unknown witches (5 of them are assumably the same as the ones to cast the curse; Drizella and Regina will not be in this coven, as far as we can tell).

    One of the witches will be related to The Haunted Mansion.

    Here's a quote from an article, proving they will be known characters:

    Will we be able to recognize any of these new witches?  Kitsis: We'll definitely recognize a few of their names, absolutely. These are witches from iconic fairytales or Disney lore.

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    • Madame Leota is seemingly confirmed, I suppose?

      Really hope they'll have Baba Yaga! I'm waiting her since years!

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    • I'm guessing Madam Mim and Izma

      Maybe even Queen Narissa

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    • Definitely Madame Leota.

      Baba Yaga is a good guess. I doubt they'll do direct Disney inserts like Madam Mim, Yzma, or Queen Narissa.

      Morgan le Fay? I know she was highly requested in Season 5.

      I've been wanting Frau Trude (Brothers Grimm fairytale) for a while. She might not be well-known enough, though.

      I want to say Jadis from Narnia but I doubt that, too.

      Bring back Fiona

      I'd say the sixth witch, replacing Regina, will probably be Alice. She is, after all, Gothel's daughter. Though she will likely be involved in the coven's defeat at the end of the season.

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    • Rwo

      There are Mama Odie, Tia Dalma, Hazel, Mombi, the Sanderson Sisters or Morgan that might fit 😅

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    • Rwo wrote:
      There are Mama Odie, Tia Dalma, Hazel, Mombi, the Sanderson Sisters or Morgan that might fit 😅

      I was thinking Mama Odie, too, maybe, since Dr. Facilier might be a hero (or at least a redeemed villain). I would LOVE to see Mombi. I'm less sold on Tia Dalma and the Sanderson Sisters since, again, I don't want too many Disney inserts and they're already doing The Princess and the Frog. Who is Hazel?

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    • So far, we've (kinda) eliminated Drizella and Regina. I also think we can eliminate Zelena & Lady Tremaine as well.

      So, that leaves us with, in my opinion, the following...

      1. LEOTA [the only witch I know that's related to THM]

      2. MORGANA PENDRAGON [we didn't see her in S5]

      3. DR. FACILIER [a wild guess IMO, but who knows?]

      4. YZMA [another wild guess IMO, but who knows?] 

      5. AN UNKNOWN WILD CARD

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    • ONCEFan wrote:
      So far, we've (kinda) eliminated Drizella and Regina. I also think we can eliminate Zelena & Lady Tremaine as well.

      So, that leaves us with, in my opinion, the following...

      1. LEOTA [the only witch I know that's related to THM]

      2. MORGANA PENDRAGON [we didn't see her in S5]

      3. DR. FACILIER [a wild guess IMO, but who knows?]

      4. YZMA [another wild guess IMO, but who knows?] 

      5. AN UNKNOWN WILD CARD


      Gothel said sisters/women, so unless Facilier is transexual... ^^'

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    • What about you, Junky? Who do you think is part of the Coven of Eight?

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Madame Leota is seemingly confirmed, I suppose?

      Really hope they'll have Baba Yaga! I'm waiting her since years!


      @ONCE Fan ^^

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    • Anyone else you want to see?

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    • What I expect to see:

      1. Mother Gothel
      2. Anastasia
      3. Madame Leota
      4. Morgan le Fay
      5. Mama Odie
      6. Baba Yaga
      7. ???
      8. Alice

      What I would really like to see:

      1. Mother Gothel
      2. Anastasia
      3. Madame Leota
      4. Morgan le Fay
      5. Fiona
      6. Frau Trude
      7. Queen Jadis
      8. Baba Yaga
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    • The Eight Witches I assume would be related to Disney Divas which are:

      Wishverse Maleficent

      Wishverse Evil Queen(Zelena got her magic back why not the WishQueen)

      Ursula(Sea Goddesses not witch)

      Gothel

      Wishverse Queen of Hearts(Cora)

      Madam Mim

      Yzma

      Queen Narissa


      Although I know outside of Gothel none of the others would be part of the Coven. 

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    • This article is saying that Regina and Zelena are two of the members. But idk about that.

      https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/once-a-time-reboot-at-midseason-adam-horowitz-edward-kitsis-interview-1068151

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    • Here's my guess:

      Gothel

      Anastasia

      Tia Dalma

      Madame Leota

      Yzma

      The Enchantress (from Beauty and the Beast)

      Mizrabel (from Castle of Illusion)

      Queen Narissa

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      This article is saying that Regina and Zelena are two of the members. But idk about that.

      https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/once-a-time-reboot-at-midseason-adam-horowitz-edward-kitsis-interview-1068151

      Yeah... no. That sounds wrong. Zelena explicitly said she turned down the invitation. Regina was manipulated into assisting them temporarily. They aren't members.

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    • I think the witches will be

      Gothel

      Anastasia

      Yzma

      Morgan Le Fay

      Madame Leota

      Mama Odie

      Baba Yaga

      Madam Mim

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    • Don't forget... The Sanderson Sisters! (I put a spell on youuuuu...)

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    • Bring us Maleficent (because I love Kristin Bauer van Straten).

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    • 1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Madame Leota

      4. Yzma

      5. Madame Mim

      6. Morgana Le Fay

      7. Queen Narissa

      8. Alternate Version of Maleficent?

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Madame Leota is seemingly confirmed, I suppose?

      I just hope that they will get Jennifer Tilly (Madame Leota actress) to play the role.

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    • How is Madame Leota confirmed?

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    • Nakis91 wrote:
      How is Madame Leota confirmed?

      A character from The Haunted Mansion is confirmed. Since it has to be a woman, Madame Leota is the most likely possiblity.

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    • Wild guess

      1. Gothel
      2. Cecelia
      3. Nurse Ratched
      4. Jabberwocky
      5. Madame Faustina
      6. Myrna
      7. Trish
      8. Miss Ginger
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    • Rubenvst wrote:
      Wild guess
      1. Gothel
      2. Cecelia
      3. Nurse Ratched
      4. Jabberwocky
      5. Madame Faustina
      6. Myrna
      7. Trish
      8. Miss Ginger

      Ursula (Goddess) instead of Cecelia. but this is my fantasy

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    • I'd love to see Yzma, Madame Mim and a new version of Maleficent !

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    • 1. Gothel
      2. Anastasia - instead of Drizella
      3. Wish Regina - instead of Regina
      4. Leota (but I'm not sure, she's good after all)
      5. Yzma
      6. Baba Yaga/Frau Trude (as one person)
      7. New Maleficent/Carabosse/Leticia
      8. Mother Hubbard

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    • Quick analysis: The Coven is evil, so chances are they are evil/manipulated.

      We had a Coven of 7 before the curse. Gothel, Drizella, and 5 others. Madame Leota is sorta confirmed.

      As for the others, Madam Mim (Could he a trend), Wish Queen(is indeed around and Gothel had access to the Dark Curse which she had), Morgana (they haven’t done her yet and could even be a former fairy), Baba Yaga (could be a trend). Mother/Madam/Baba all refer to a woman, even if they are sister witches.

      So...

      1. Mother Gothel

      2. Anastasia, replacing Drizella

      3. Madame Leota

      4. Madam Mim

      5. Baba Yaga (Baba means old woman, grandmother)

      6. Morgana le Fae

      7. Wish Evil Queen to be replaced by Robin

      8. Regina, but to be replaced by Alice

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    • But WEvilQueen is banished and powerless

      I think they would have noticed if there is a duplicate of Roni walking around in HH

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    • 8Rob wrote: But WEvilQueen is banished and powerless

      I think they would have noticed if there is a duplicate of Roni walking around in HH

      Wish Evil Queen was the best thing I have. Placeholder for now, but there are ways for her to get magic. I don’t think she’s one of the 8, but I haven’t a clue who to replace her with.

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    • But good catch with the Dark Curse scroll

      The original was destroyed and Drizella was shown to have it in 7x10

      That HAVE to be the WDark Curse scroll. There is no other explanation. So the WRealm will totally return in 7B

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    • My first thoughts were Morgana and Baba Yaga as well.

      I've never watched the Haunted Mansion so I don't know who this Madame Leota is but she seems confirmed so.

      Don't have many other ideas. Perhaps Madam Mim and Yzma from the Disney department. 

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    • 1- Gothel

      2- Anastasia

      3- Madame Leota

      4- Wish Evil Queen

      5- Ursula (Goddess)

      6- New version of Maleficent

      7- Robin

      8- Alice

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    • 1. Gothel 2. Anastasia, replacing Drizella 3. Robin or Alice, replacing Regina 4. Madame Leota 5. Mama Odie 6. Baba Yaga 7. Morgan le Fay 8. Idk, I'll add some other characters that is possible like Yzma, Madame Mim, Mombi, Hecate...

      This is a golden chance for them to include a lot of characters, without having to flesh out them too hard.

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    • Rubenvst wrote:
      Wild guess
      1. Gothel
      2. Cecelia
      3. Nurse Ratched
      4. Jabberwocky
      5. Madame Faustina
      6. Myrna
      7. Trish
      8. Miss Ginger

      I think Wish Ginger would be an excellent decision. After the failure of the WishQueen she could join the coven to help another witch in the curse.

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    • No idea, but I hope that their motivations will be made clear in 7B.

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    • If we had Ratched here I would probably faint out of excitment XD

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    • Pallid wrote:
      Rubenvst wrote:
      Wild guess
      1. Gothel
      2. Cecelia
      3. Nurse Ratched
      4. Jabberwocky
      5. Madame Faustina
      6. Myrna
      7. Trish
      8. Miss Ginger
      I think Wish Ginger would be an excellent decision. After the failure of the WishQueen she could join the coven to help another witch in the curse.

      Ginger barely had one line back in season 1, I don't think people remember her. Plus she wasn't even related to a fairytale, iconical Disney witches would do better villains to my opinion.

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    • I don't understand the purpose of 8 witches anyway. During the Oz arc it was hinted that four powerful witches together could break the laws of Magic. Why would they even need a Curse? I just want to know thier agenda.

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    • We could have Witch Hazel from the cartoon Trick or Treat as one of the witches

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    • I can’t think of any iconic Disney witches they haven’t done before, so these are probably new versions. Or, as someone else suggested, since they are most likely doing Madame Leona they are open to theme park rides. So, Tia Dalma from Pirates of the Carribbean. Then, that’s four (Gothel and Anastasia too).

      Madame Mim and Morgan Le Fay could be tied together as they are both from Camelot. Then they could always do Mama Odie from Princess and the Frog.

      If they are doing new versions, then I’d expect to see Maleficent again because that’s one underused character that was ignored past her “big” arc. That’s eight. I doubt there will be another Ursula, because there has technically already been three (Regina, the goddess, and the sea witch).

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    • TheRose123 wrote:
      I can’t think of any iconic Disney witches they haven’t done before, so these are probably new versions. Or, as someone else suggested, since they are most likely doing Madame Leona they are open to theme park rides. So, Tia Dalma from Pirates of the Carribbean. Then, that’s four (Gothel and Anastasia too).

      Madame Mim and Morgan Le Fay could be tied together as they are both from Camelot. Then they could always do Mama Odie from Princess and the Frog.

      If they are doing new versions, then I’d expect to see Maleficent again because that’s one underused character that was ignored past her “big” arc. That’s eight. I doubt there will be another Ursula, because there has technically already been three (Regina, the goddess, and the sea witch).

      Well, Mama Odie is good, so I doubt it's her. I expect of the five others, half to be Disney and the other half to be fairytale lore.

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      I'm guessing Madam Mim and Izma

      Maybe even Queen Narissa

      Here is my full list

      1. Mother Gothel

      2. Madam Mim

      3. Winifred Sanderson

      4. Yzma

      5. Madame Leota

      6. Mama Odie

      7. Magica De Spell

      8. Anastasia


      The Sanderson sisters appeared as costumes in 7x04. I think that was a hint

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    • My list for the members for the Coven of the 8 are:

      1. Mother Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Madame Leota

      4. Baba Yoga

      5.  Gaea

      6. Yzma

      7. Madam Mim

      8.  New Maleficent

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    • Please Morgana. That would be cool. And yes, Baba Yaga, Yzma, Madam Mim. And omg, I would love if Nurse Ratched came back and seemingly tied in everything by being a witch in the coven of the 8.

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    • New theory:

      Zelena is actually working with Gothel and she is secretly part of the coven

      That's why she was happy in the LWM, because the Dark Curse is supossed to take away everyone's happy ending, but Zelena was actually happy as Kelly

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      New theory:

      Zelena is actually working with Gothel and she is secretly part of the coven

      That's why she was happy in the LWM, because the Dark Curse is supossed to take away everyone's happy ending, but Zelena was actually happy as Kelly

      NO WAY. 

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    • ONCEFan wrote:
      8Rob wrote:
      New theory:

      Zelena is actually working with Gothel and she is secretly part of the coven

      That's why she was happy in the LWM, because the Dark Curse is supossed to take away everyone's happy ending, but Zelena was actually happy as Kelly

      NO WAY. 

      And that's why she was in the NEF!

      And that's how she got her magic back!

      She mentioned the coven sent an invitation. Why would the coven send an invitation to a powerless witch? 

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    • Good guesses, I agree with a lot of them, but here are some ones I don't think I've seen on here yet, that I think are possible:

      The Dutchess from Alice in Wonderland (or a different female Wonderland character)

      Hecate, Circe, Medea, or Calypso from Greek Mythology

      The Weird Sisters from Macbeth

      Odile from Swan Lake

      Princess Langwidere from the Oz series

      Xayide from The Neverending Story

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Good guesses, I agree with a lot of them, but here are some ones I don't think I've seen on here yet, that I think are possible:

      The Dutchess from Alice in Wonderland (or a different female Wonderland character)

      Hecate, Circe, Medea, or Calypso from Greek Mythology

      The Weird Sisters from Macbeth

      Odile from Swan Lake

      I was thinking the Duchess, but I think they could merge her with Madam Mim. (I know, it's weird that I'm suggesting Disney). You'd get a little bit of both Wonderland characters (Duchess and Jabberwock)

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    • 1. Gothel

      2. Cecilia

      3. Anastasia

      4. Wicked Witch Of The East

      5. W Maleficent

      6. Morgana Le Fay

      7. Queen Mab

      8. Madame Leota

      Jabberwocky is the Helm she feeds by fear!!!

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    • Added a few more to my post. I have to say, if between everyone that is listed on this thread, the writers manage to find someone else (that isn't just something we wouldn't be able to easily guess, like evil Mary Poppins), I will be very impressed.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote: Good guesses, I agree with a lot of them, but here are some ones I don't think I've seen on here yet, that I think are possible:

      The Dutchess from Alice in Wonderland (or a different female Wonderland character)

      Hecate, Circe, Medea, or Calypso from Greek Mythology

      The Weird Sisters from Macbeth

      Odile from Swan Lake

      Princess Langwidere from the Oz series

      Xayide from The Neverending Story

      I was literally going to say the witches from Greek Mythology. I would love them + Morgana and maybe Yzma, Madam Mim and Baba Yaga. Although, I would love to see Nurse Ratched and Zelena as one as well

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    • The Duchess is a great guess. I'd say she and Mombi could easily replace any of the characters on my lists and I'd still be happy.

      I don't know if they'd do Shakespeare, but it'd be cool if they did.

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    • I'm calling it, Robin is going to be part of the Coven of the Eight.

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    • Here are my guesses...

      Gothel*

      Anastasia*

      Madame Leota

      Yzma

      Morgana Le Fay

      Maleficent^*

      Circe (from Greek Mythology)

      Baba Yaga



      * = confirmed

      ^* = new interpretation 

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    • Adam.armstrong.33 wrote: Here are my guesses...

      Gothel*

      Anastasia*

      Madame Leota

      Yzma

      Morgana Le Fay

      Maleficent^*

      Circe (from Greek Mythology)

      Baba Yaga



      * = confirmed

      ^* = new interpretation 

      Where havé they comfirmed maleficent?

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    • 1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia (replacing Drizella)

      3. Madam Mim

      4. Wishverse Evil Queen/Maleficent/wild guess Wishverse Black Fairy or Maleficent?

      5. Morgan le Fay

      6. Circe/Medea?

      7. Baba Yaga

      8. Leota/maybe Yzma

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    • Simfabulous wrote:

      Adam.armstrong.33 wrote: Here are my guesses...

      Gothel*

      Anastasia*

      Madame Leota

      Yzma

      Morgana Le Fay

      Maleficent^*

      Circe (from Greek Mythology)

      Baba Yaga



      * = confirmed

      ^* = new interpretation 

      Where havé they comfirmed maleficent?

      It's just people's theories/wild theories, not confirmed anywhere.

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    • How would Alice be a member of the Coven? Wasn't the entire Coven at the site where they met and the Curse was cast when Alice was with Hook and Robin? And doesn't Alice want nothing to do with her mom and have no relationship with her?

      When was it confirmed that one of the witches will be related to THM?

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    • Andrewh7 wrote: How would Alice be a member of the Coven? Wasn't the entire Coven at the site where they met and the Curse was cast when Alice was with Hook and Robin? And doesn't Alice want nothing to do with her mom and have no relationship with her?

      When was it confirmed that one of the witches will be related to THM?

      Related to The Haunted Mansion article, Confirms one of the witches will be from THM: http://ew.com/tv/2017/12/15/once-upon-a-time-coven-eight-spoilers/ it says: “I think there’s going to be some surprises,” Kitsis says. “What happens with the witch story line hopefully will also be surprising. We will be seeing someone in episode 11, which is a reference we’ve never done before, which is from the Haunted Mansion.” (Crossing fingers for Madame Leota!)

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    • They did say that some are from classic fairy tales, and some are from Disney versions, Maleficent is a candidate for both, so it's certainly possible =D

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    • Andrewh7 wrote:
      How would Alice be a member of the Coven? Wasn't the entire Coven at the site where they met and the Curse was cast when Alice was with Hook and Robin? And doesn't Alice want nothing to do with her mom and have no relationship with her?

      When was it confirmed that one of the witches will be related to THM?

      They had seven members of the Coven at the casting of the curse. One was Drizella, now replaced by Anastasia. But they needed Regina to be the eighth, which theoretically implies they were down a member. Gothel could try to recruit Alice.

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    • Simfabulous wrote: Adam.armstrong.33 wrote: Here are my guesses... Gothel* Anastasia* Madame Leota Yzma Morgana Le Fay Maleficent^* Circe (from Greek Mythology) Baba Yaga * = confirmed ^* = new interpretation Where havé they comfirmed maleficent?It's just my theory that Maleficent is included. Only Gothel and Anastasia are confirmed 

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    • Simfabulous wrote: Adam.armstrong.33 wrote: Here are my guesses... Gothel* Anastasia* Madame Leota Yzma Morgana Le Fay Maleficent^* Circe (from Greek Mythology) Baba Yaga * = confirmed ^* = new interpretation Where havé they comfirmed maleficent?The asterisk next to Maleficent doesn't mean she's confirmed. Adam was using ^* to mean new interpretation (like EF2 counterpart).

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Andrewh7 wrote:
      How would Alice be a member of the Coven? Wasn't the entire Coven at the site where they met and the Curse was cast when Alice was with Hook and Robin? And doesn't Alice want nothing to do with her mom and have no relationship with her?

      When was it confirmed that one of the witches will be related to THM?

      They had seven members of the Coven at the casting of the curse. One was Drizella, now replaced by Anastasia. But they needed Regina to be the eighth, which theoretically implies they were down a member. Gothel could try to recruit Alice.

      When did they say they needed Regina to be the eighth?  They already had eight, they had seven members plus Gothel which is eight. They only needed her to cast the Curse, not to be the eighth member and invited Zelena.

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    • Andrewh7 wrote:

      When did they say they needed Regina to be the eighth?  They already had eight, they had seven members plus Gothel which is eight. They only needed her to cast the Curse, not to be the eighth member and invited Zelena.

      Nope. Gothel appeared with 5 others to free Drizella. Gothel + 5 + Drizella = 7.

      The extra hooded figure at the cliff was a poisoned Henry.

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    • Andrewh7 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Andrewh7 wrote:
      How would Alice be a member of the Coven? Wasn't the entire Coven at the site where they met and the Curse was cast when Alice was with Hook and Robin? And doesn't Alice want nothing to do with her mom and have no relationship with her?

      When was it confirmed that one of the witches will be related to THM?

      They had seven members of the Coven at the casting of the curse. One was Drizella, now replaced by Anastasia. But they needed Regina to be the eighth, which theoretically implies they were down a member. Gothel could try to recruit Alice.
      When did they say they needed Regina to be the eighth?  They already had eight, they had seven members plus Gothel which is eight. They only needed her to cast the Curse, not to be the eighth member and invited Zelena.

      There was only seven. Five hooded witches, Drizella and Gothel.


      Also Drizella flats out stated Regina would be the 8th ingredient as in the eighth witch to help cast the curse. 

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    • So we know two of them are Mother Gothel and Anastasia. One is likely confirmed to be Madame Leota. With her appearing and the hint in 7a, I could definitely see at least one of the Sanderson Sisters appearing. Assuming it’s all new characters (and therefore it won’t be Maleficent, ursula or any of them), I could see one being Madam Mim. Or like others said, Queen Narissa.

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    • KnocknickKnock wrote:
      Andrewh7 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Andrewh7 wrote:
      How would Alice be a member of the Coven? Wasn't the entire Coven at the site where they met and the Curse was cast when Alice was with Hook and Robin? And doesn't Alice want nothing to do with her mom and have no relationship with her?

      When was it confirmed that one of the witches will be related to THM?

      They had seven members of the Coven at the casting of the curse. One was Drizella, now replaced by Anastasia. But they needed Regina to be the eighth, which theoretically implies they were down a member. Gothel could try to recruit Alice.
      When did they say they needed Regina to be the eighth?  They already had eight, they had seven members plus Gothel which is eight. They only needed her to cast the Curse, not to be the eighth member and invited Zelena.
      There was only seven. Five hooded witches, Drizella and Gothel.


      Also Drizella flats out stated Regina would be the 8th ingredient as in the eighth witch to help cast the curse. 

      Uhm... no, I doubt it, she was referring to the ingredients seen in 1x02 during the casting of the curse, the 8th ingredient was supposed to be the heart of the thing you love the most.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      KnocknickKnock wrote:
      Andrewh7 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Andrewh7 wrote:
      How would Alice be a member of the Coven? Wasn't the entire Coven at the site where they met and the Curse was cast when Alice was with Hook and Robin? And doesn't Alice want nothing to do with her mom and have no relationship with her?

      When was it confirmed that one of the witches will be related to THM?

      They had seven members of the Coven at the casting of the curse. One was Drizella, now replaced by Anastasia. But they needed Regina to be the eighth, which theoretically implies they were down a member. Gothel could try to recruit Alice.
      When did they say they needed Regina to be the eighth?  They already had eight, they had seven members plus Gothel which is eight. They only needed her to cast the Curse, not to be the eighth member and invited Zelena.
      There was only seven. Five hooded witches, Drizella and Gothel.


      Also Drizella flats out stated Regina would be the 8th ingredient as in the eighth witch to help cast the curse. 

      Uhm... no, I doubt it, she was referring to the ingredients seen in 1x02 during the casting of the curse, the 8th ingredient was supposed to be the heart of the thing you love the most.

      The 8th ingredient was magic from a witch who had crushed the heart of the thing she loved most, which obviously was in place of actually crushing a heart.

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    • Sorryif I missed something, but how is Madame Leota confirmed? Is it referenced in the episode?

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    • Sunny's Wig wrote:
      Sorryif I missed something, but how is Madame Leota confirmed? Is it referenced in the episode?

      She isn't truly confirmed just based off of the fact the show is doing a hunted Manison episode they believe Madame Leota will appear.

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    • KnocknickKnock wrote:
      Sunny's Wig wrote:
      Sorryif I missed something, but how is Madame Leota confirmed? Is it referenced in the episode?
      She isn't truly confirmed just based off of the fact the show is doing a hunted Manison episode they believe Madame Leota will appear.

      It is confirmed that a character who is a reference to Haunted Mansion will be one of the witches. Madame Leota is one of the best-known characters from Haunted Mansion -- I think the only one to appear in both the ride and the movie -- and basically the only character who would make sense as a witch. Unless they're going with an obscure reference like Constance Hatchaway or a character who is merely a reference to Haunted Mansion, not actually a character originating from it, Madame Leota seems fairly certain.

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    • Tysonjackson wrote: So we know two of them are Mother Gothel and Anastasia. One is likely confirmed to be Madame Leota. With her appearing and the hint in 7a, I could definitely see at least one of the Sanderson Sisters appearing. Assuming it’s all new characters (and therefore it won’t be Maleficent, ursula or any of them), I could see one being Madam Mim. Or like others said, Queen Narissa.

      I'm so hoping they do mad madam mim. maybe the witches from black cauldron also?

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    • Sunny's Wig wrote: Sorryif I missed something, but how is Madame Leota confirmed? Is it referenced in the episode?

      She isn't confirmed but they have confirmed that a Haunted Mansion character will appear and that iconic Disney witches will appear as members of the Coven, so it's logical to assume that Madame Leota will be one.

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    • Queenofdarkness89 wrote:

      Tysonjackson wrote: So we know two of them are Mother Gothel and Anastasia. One is likely confirmed to be Madame Leota. With her appearing and the hint in 7a, I could definitely see at least one of the Sanderson Sisters appearing. Assuming it’s all new characters (and therefore it won’t be Maleficent, ursula or any of them), I could see one being Madam Mim. Or like others said, Queen Narissa.

      I'm so hoping they do mad madam mim. maybe the witches from black cauldron also?

      Haven't seen Black Cauldron, but I think it would be cool. I would love to see some of the lesser watched stories get adapted.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      KnocknickKnock wrote:
      Sunny's Wig wrote:
      Sorryif I missed something, but how is Madame Leota confirmed? Is it referenced in the episode?
      She isn't truly confirmed just based off of the fact the show is doing a hunted Manison episode they believe Madame Leota will appear.
      It is confirmed that a character who is a reference to Haunted Mansion will be one of the witches. Madame Leota is one of the best-known characters from Haunted Mansion -- I think the only one to appear in both the ride and the movie -- and basically the only character who would make sense as a witch. Unless they're going with an obscure reference like Constance Hatchaway or a character who is merely a reference to Haunted Mansion, not actually a character originating from it, Madame Leota seems fairly certain.

      Also, we have a picture from this episode with Hook, Zelena, and Robin (if I'm remembering correctly) looking at a crystal ball, which Madame Leota is associated with.

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    • So, I guess we finally ran out of characters? Overall, I think this will be very interesting to see which characters the writers decided to go with, and it was something that I wasn't expecting, which makes it even more exciting.

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    • I mean, I guess I can mention the new "Moby Dick is a Witch" theory I accidentally started over here lol.

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    • Maybe we will see caracters who arn't usually wiches , transform into a witch... like cruella!!! Maybe we will even see heros transform into coven witch...

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    • Id like too see charlotte labouf dark version 😗

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    • Now that I think about it, i definitely think at least one Sanderson Sister is coming if they showed their costumes. Once always does subtle hints for their second half of the season. 5A they mentioned the Underworld a few times, 5B we go to the Underworld. 4A they mentioned Poseidon’s part of the ocean and Emma befriends Lily, 4B Ursula is Poseidon’s Daughter and Lily is Maleficent’s. So have you guys noticed any other hints in 7A?

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    • Where havé you seb any of those costumes?

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    • Simfabulous wrote: Where havé you seb any of those costumes?

      I didn't but some others apparently did. I'm assuming in Beauty.

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    • Lets see this is my theory like everyone eleses on this thread ,to who are this witches :

      1.Baba Yaga ( maybe )

      2.Madam Mim ( maybe )

      3.Morgana La Fey ( maybe )

      4.Madame Leota ( maybe )

      5.Yzma ( maybe )

      6.Gothel (confirmd)

      7.Anastasia (maybe / confirmd)

      8.( dont know)

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    • Well I dont know except from obviously Gothel, Anstasia and Madame Leota, I dont know who most of these witches are lol who you lot have brought up...

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    • Is there a W!Zelena?

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    • Was one of the coven members killed? I just remembered in either episode 7 or 8 the dead man had the symbol on his arm. Anyone have any insight?

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    • 8Rob wrote: Is there a W!Zelena?

      I think the writers said that the Wish Realm only encompasses The Enchanted Forest.

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    • Gentlespirit18 wrote:
      Was one of the coven members killed? I just remembered in either episode 7 or 8 the dead man had the symbol on his arm. Anyone have any insight?

      He had a tattoo, but he wasn't a coven member. Maybe he is connected to one of the coven members though. Time will tell.

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    • Rwo

      CoolDudeAl wrote:

      Gentlespirit18 wrote:
      Was one of the coven members killed? I just remembered in either episode 7 or 8 the dead man had the symbol on his arm. Anyone have any insight?

      He had a tattoo, but he wasn't a coven member. Maybe he is connected to one of the coven members though. Time will tell.

      He was connected to Ivy, she's the one he called about the Eloise Gardener case and the one who poisoned him.

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    • Rwo wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote:

      Gentlespirit18 wrote:
      Was one of the coven members killed? I just remembered in either episode 7 or 8 the dead man had the symbol on his arm. Anyone have any insight?
      He had a tattoo, but he wasn't a coven member. Maybe he is connected to one of the coven members though. Time will tell.

      He was connected to Ivy, she's the one he called about the Eloise Gardener case and the one who poisoned him.

      Actually, he was probably falsely connected to Victoria. I'd say he was an extension of Ivy's attempts to make Victoria believe she was in power. Victoria seemed aware of him, hence Ivy revealing she poisoned him, so it all kind of lines up.

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    • Rwo

      Victoria didn't seem to know much or care for that matter about Rogers' case before Weaver visits her, which takes place after Sam's death, while Ivy knew how much Rogers was obsessed about it, hence the tattoo. But we're not so far apart anyway.

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    • They've been trying to recruit Zelena but she's refusing so maybe they'll have the wishing Zelena instead although the writers said all them whitch are in Hyperion heights under cursed personas so I hardly dought it.

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    • New list after some thoughts and research.

      Practically confirmed

      1. Mother Gothel

      2. Anastasia, replacing Drizella

      3. Madame Leota

      Potential Fairytale/Disney Witches

      Mad Madam Mim

      Baba Yaga (Baba means old woman, grandmother)

      Morgana le Fae/ Lady Morgana

      Lady Vivian/ Lady of the Lake (We know there's a LotL)

      Mombi (has Mom in it and we do know there's a WWoN; possibly invited Zelena)

      Mama Odie (potentially had a troubled past before turning to the light)

      Old Mother Hubbard/Dame Hubbard (just for the fun of it)

      Carabosse/ New Maleficent (potentially an alternate Fairy, dark fairy dust was mentioned)

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    • I was thinking... what about Maleficent? What if lily died and she turned dark or something?

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    • After having some time to think it over...

      1. Mother Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Madame Leota

      4. Lily Page

      5. Madam Mim/Morgana LeFay- I don't see both making an appearance

      6. Queen Narissa

      7 & 8.  Mary & Sarah Sanderson


      Who would you like to see -but due to legality- wouldn't make the list??? For me, it would be: Beatrix Lestrange (Harry Potter), Lamia (Stardust), and Jadis (The White Witch)

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    • Suburbanprincess wrote: After having some time to think it over...

      1. Mother Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Madame Leota

      4. Lily Page

      5. Madam Mim/Morgana LeFay- I don't see both making an appearance

      6. Queen Narissa

      7 & 8.  Mary & Sarah Sanderson


      Who would you like to see -but due to legality- wouldn't make the list??? For me, it would be: Beatrix Lestrange (Harry Potter), Lamia (Stardust), and Jadis (The White Witch)

      I don’t see Lily or Maleficent coming back, the writers have ignored them since Season 5 began.

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    • TheRose123 wrote:

      8Rob wrote: Is there a W!Zelena?

      I think the writers said that the Wish Realm only encompasses The Enchanted Forest.

      Well, Zelena IS from the EF. But i would love to see the WishQueen as part of the coven.

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    • Sanderson Sisters in Beauty?? Doubt it’s a coincidence

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    • Please please please!

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    • In order of joining the coven 1. Gothel 2. Madame Leota 3. ? 4. ? 5. Evil Queen (Wish Realm) 6. Drizella 7. Anastasia 8. The Mysterious Eighth Witch

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:
      In order of joining the coven

      1. Gothel 2. Madame Leota 3. ? 4. ? 5. Evil Queen (Wish Realm) 6. Drizella 7. Anastasia 8. The Mysterious Eighth Witch

      Drizella's no longer part of the coven, so there will be someone replacing her. And 3, 4, 5 could be the Sanderson Sisters (PLEASE).

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    • The photo I was posted earlier had been deleted. In it you can see three women dressed as the Sanderson Sisters at the end of the Beauty episode while Henry and Ivy and at Roni’s bar. I don’t think this is a coincidence knowing Eddy and Adam. Episode 15 is also called ‘Sisterhood’, this could be a reference to the sisterhood of the coven in general, but also the Sisterhood Of The Sanderson Sisters.

      My guesses for the witches are:

      1. Gothel 2. Madame Leota 3. Winnie Sanderson 4. Sarah Sanderson 5. Mary Sanderson 6. Morgana Le Fay 7. Mama Odie 8. Anastasia

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    • Coven123 wrote:
      The photo I was posted earlier had been deleted. In it you can see three women dressed as the Sanderson Sisters at the end of the Beauty episode while Henry and Ivy and at Roni’s bar. I don’t think this is a coincidence knowing Eddy and Adam. Episode 15 is also called ‘Sisterhood’, this could be a reference to the sisterhood of the coven in general, but also the Sisterhood Of The Sanderson Sisters.

      My guesses for the witches are:

      1. Gothel 2. Madame Leota 3. Winnie Sanderson 4. Sarah Sanderson 5. Mary Sanderson 6. Yzma 7. Madame Mim 8. Anastasia

      I think the Wish Queen will be one of the witches. I mean, that would be awesome! And even more awesome if the Serum Queen showed up to team up with Regina to defeat their counterpart. Amazing, right?! 

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    • New and improved list

      1. Gothel, confirmed

      2. Madame Leota, confirmed

      3. ?

      4. ?

      5. ?

      6. Yzma, if they included her Kuzco could be Cinderella’s father

      7. Anastasia, confirmed

      8. The Mysterious Eighth Witch

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    • Isn't the eighth Witch Anastasia? Or I missed some pieces. I'm guessing either Zelena or Robin will be involved, or both.

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    • Here’s my new list, ranked on how likely they are:

      (1) Gothel (confirmed)

      (2) Anastasia (The (confirmed)

      (3) Madame Leota (very likely)~

      (4) Morgana Le Fay (likely)~~

      (5) Mama Odie (fifty-fifty)

      (6) Baba Yaga (not likely)

      (7) ?

      There is no Eighth Witch, I believe, as in the eponymously-titled episode Regina was meant to fulfill that role. There was Drizella, Gothel and five other witches seen in that episode, so therefore there are only seven in the coven (even though they are called The Coven Of The Eight).

      ~ The creators confirmed a character from the Haunted Mansion would be in 7B, so this is the most sensical.

      ~~ BTS footage and pictures from Emma Booth’s Instagram shows two new actresses: one with braided, blonde hair, and another with dark hair and pale skin. While the former is wearing gold, which typically denotes a courageous or heroic character in fiction, the other is wearing blue/silver underneath her coat. I believe the latter shares physical similarities with Morgana Le Fay, so that’s why I put her on my revised list.

      They need a way to include Tiana in this new story, so it makes sense to put a character from the Princess and the Frog in there, even if she was previously a good character.

      I hope Baba Yaga happens, but they haven’t done Russian fairy tales before (except for if you count Emma’s Dark Swan arc as an allusion to Swan Lake).

      No idea who the seventh witch may be, but it could potentially be an original character or a character who was previously-adapted as a protagonist/hero (a la Peter Pan).

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    • TheRose123 wrote: Here’s my new list, ranked on how likely they are:

      (1) Gothel (confirmed)

      (2) Anastasia (confirmed)

      (3) Madame Leota (very likely)~

      (4) Morgana Le Fay (likely)~~

      (5) Mama Odie (fifty-fifty)

      (6) Baba Yaga (not likely)

      (7) ?

      There is no Eighth Witch, I believe, as in the eponymously-titled episode Regina was meant to fulfill that role. There was Drizella, Gothel and five other witches seen in that episode, so therefore there are only seven in the coven (even though they are called The Coven Of The Eight).

      ~ The creators confirmed a character from the Haunted Mansion would be in 7B, so this is the most sensical.

      ~~ BTS footage and pictures from Emma Booth’s Instagram shows two new actresses: one with braided, blonde hair, and another with dark hair and pale skin. While the former is wearing gold, which typically denotes a courageous or heroic character in fiction, the other is wearing blue/silver underneath her coat. I believe the latter shares physical similarities with Morgana Le Fay, so that’s why I put her on my revised list.

      They need a way to include Tiana in this new story, so it makes sense to put a character from the Princess and the Frog in there, even if she was previously a good character.

      I hope Baba Yaga happens, but they haven’t done Russian fairy tales before (except for if you count Emma’s Dark Swan arc as an allusion to Swan Lake).

      No idea who the seventh witch may be, but it could potentially be an original character or a character who was previously-adapted as a protagonist/hero (a la Peter Pan).

      I think they are trying to mess with us. What if it is:

      1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Leota

      4. Evil Queen (Wish Realm)

      5. Emma Swan (Wish Realm)

      6. Goldilocks

      7. French Snow White

      8. Wish Emmas sister

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:


      TheRose123 wrote: Here’s my new list, ranked on how likely they are:

      (1) Gothel (confirmed)

      (2) Anastasia (confirmed)

      (3) Madame Leota (very likely)~

      (4) Morgana Le Fay (likely)~~

      (5) Mama Odie (fifty-fifty)

      (6) Baba Yaga (not likely)

      (7) ?

      There is no Eighth Witch, I believe, as in the eponymously-titled episode Regina was meant to fulfill that role. There was Drizella, Gothel and five other witches seen in that episode, so therefore there are only seven in the coven (even though they are called The Coven Of The Eight).

      ~ The creators confirmed a character from the Haunted Mansion would be in 7B, so this is the most sensical.

      ~~ BTS footage and pictures from Emma Booth’s Instagram shows two new actresses: one with braided, blonde hair, and another with dark hair and pale skin. While the former is wearing gold, which typically denotes a courageous or heroic character in fiction, the other is wearing blue/silver underneath her coat. I believe the latter shares physical similarities with Morgana Le Fay, so that’s why I put her on my revised list.

      They need a way to include Tiana in this new story, so it makes sense to put a character from the Princess and the Frog in there, even if she was previously a good character.

      I hope Baba Yaga happens, but they haven’t done Russian fairy tales before (except for if you count Emma’s Dark Swan arc as an allusion to Swan Lake).

      No idea who the seventh witch may be, but it could potentially be an original character or a character who was previously-adapted as a protagonist/hero (a la Peter Pan).

      I think they are trying to mess with us. What if it is:

      1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Leota

      4. Evil Queen (Wish Realm)

      5. Emma Swan (Wish Realm)

      6. Goldilocks

      7. French Snow White

      8. Wish Emmas sister

      I don’t think they have the budget to do doubles again with Regina, and they did a similar storyline with her last season. Wish Emma doesn’t have a sister.

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    • TheRose123 wrote:


      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:


      TheRose123 wrote: Here’s my new list, ranked on how likely they are:

      (1) Gothel (confirmed)

      (2) Anastasia (confirmed)

      (3) Madame Leota (very likely)~

      (4) Morgana Le Fay (likely)~~

      (5) Mama Odie (fifty-fifty)

      (6) Baba Yaga (not likely)

      (7) ?

      There is no Eighth Witch, I believe, as in the eponymously-titled episode Regina was meant to fulfill that role. There was Drizella, Gothel and five other witches seen in that episode, so therefore there are only seven in the coven (even though they are called The Coven Of The Eight).

      ~ The creators confirmed a character from the Haunted Mansion would be in 7B, so this is the most sensical.

      ~~ BTS footage and pictures from Emma Booth’s Instagram shows two new actresses: one with braided, blonde hair, and another with dark hair and pale skin. While the former is wearing gold, which typically denotes a courageous or heroic character in fiction, the other is wearing blue/silver underneath her coat. I believe the latter shares physical similarities with Morgana Le Fay, so that’s why I put her on my revised list.

      They need a way to include Tiana in this new story, so it makes sense to put a character from the Princess and the Frog in there, even if she was previously a good character.

      I hope Baba Yaga happens, but they haven’t done Russian fairy tales before (except for if you count Emma’s Dark Swan arc as an allusion to Swan Lake).

      No idea who the seventh witch may be, but it could potentially be an original character or a character who was previously-adapted as a protagonist/hero (a la Peter Pan).

      I think they are trying to mess with us. What if it is:

      1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Leota

      4. Evil Queen (Wish Realm)

      5. Emma Swan (Wish Realm)

      6. Goldilocks

      7. French Snow White

      8. Wish Emmas sister

      I don’t think they have the budget to do doubles again with Regina, and they did a similar storyline with her last season. Wish Emma doesn’t have a sister.

      The first four that I listed are practically confirmed. I think that the next four will be very strange choices as in Peter Pan. So I listed Goldilocks, Wish Emma, French Snow White, and a potential sister of Wish Emma since I’d the Curse hadn’t hit Snow and Chatming probably would have had more children.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      TheRose123 wrote:



      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:



      TheRose123 wrote: Here’s my new list, ranked on how likely they are:

      (1) Gothel (confirmed)

      (2) Anastasia (confirmed)

      (3) Madame Leota (very likely)~

      (4) Morgana Le Fay (likely)~~

      (5) Mama Odie (fifty-fifty)

      (6) Baba Yaga (not likely)

      (7) ?

      There is no Eighth Witch, I believe, as in the eponymously-titled episode Regina was meant to fulfill that role. There was Drizella, Gothel and five other witches seen in that episode, so therefore there are only seven in the coven (even though they are called The Coven Of The Eight).

      ~ The creators confirmed a character from the Haunted Mansion would be in 7B, so this is the most sensical.

      ~~ BTS footage and pictures from Emma Booth’s Instagram shows two new actresses: one with braided, blonde hair, and another with dark hair and pale skin. While the former is wearing gold, which typically denotes a courageous or heroic character in fiction, the other is wearing blue/silver underneath her coat. I believe the latter shares physical similarities with Morgana Le Fay, so that’s why I put her on my revised list.

      They need a way to include Tiana in this new story, so it makes sense to put a character from the Princess and the Frog in there, even if she was previously a good character.

      I hope Baba Yaga happens, but they haven’t done Russian fairy tales before (except for if you count Emma’s Dark Swan arc as an allusion to Swan Lake).

      No idea who the seventh witch may be, but it could potentially be an original character or a character who was previously-adapted as a protagonist/hero (a la Peter Pan).

      I think they are trying to mess with us. What if it is:

      1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Leota

      4. Evil Queen (Wish Realm)

      5. Emma Swan (Wish Realm)

      6. Goldilocks

      7. French Snow White

      8. Wish Emmas sister

      I don’t think they have the budget to do doubles again with Regina, and they did a similar storyline with her last season. Wish Emma doesn’t have a sister.
      The first four that I listed are practically confirmed. I think that the next four will be very strange choices as in Peter Pan. So I listed Goldilocks, Wish Emma, French Snow White, and a potential sister of Wish Emma since I’d the Curse hadn’t hit Snow and Chatming probably would have had more children.


      "Evil Queen (Serum)"? Practically confirmed? Er.... no?

      The only confirmed are Gothel and Ana. Leota is practically confirmed, but that's all? Unless I miss something?

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:


      TheRose123 wrote:


      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:


      TheRose123 wrote: Here’s my new list, ranked on how likely they are:

      (1) Gothel (confirmed)

      (2) Anastasia (confirmed)

      (3) Madame Leota (very likely)~

      (4) Morgana Le Fay (likely)~~

      (5) Mama Odie (fifty-fifty)

      (6) Baba Yaga (not likely)

      (7) ?

      There is no Eighth Witch, I believe, as in the eponymously-titled episode Regina was meant to fulfill that role. There was Drizella, Gothel and five other witches seen in that episode, so therefore there are only seven in the coven (even though they are called The Coven Of The Eight).

      ~ The creators confirmed a character from the Haunted Mansion would be in 7B, so this is the most sensical.

      ~~ BTS footage and pictures from Emma Booth’s Instagram shows two new actresses: one with braided, blonde hair, and another with dark hair and pale skin. While the former is wearing gold, which typically denotes a courageous or heroic character in fiction, the other is wearing blue/silver underneath her coat. I believe the latter shares physical similarities with Morgana Le Fay, so that’s why I put her on my revised list.

      They need a way to include Tiana in this new story, so it makes sense to put a character from the Princess and the Frog in there, even if she was previously a good character.

      I hope Baba Yaga happens, but they haven’t done Russian fairy tales before (except for if you count Emma’s Dark Swan arc as an allusion to Swan Lake).

      No idea who the seventh witch may be, but it could potentially be an original character or a character who was previously-adapted as a protagonist/hero (a la Peter Pan).

      I think they are trying to mess with us. What if it is:

      1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Leota

      4. Evil Queen (Wish Realm)

      5. Emma Swan (Wish Realm)

      6. Goldilocks

      7. French Snow White

      8. Wish Emmas sister

      I don’t think they have the budget to do doubles again with Regina, and they did a similar storyline with her last season. Wish Emma doesn’t have a sister.
      The first four that I listed are practically confirmed. I think that the next four will be very strange choices as in Peter Pan. So I listed Goldilocks, Wish Emma, French Snow White, and a potential sister of Wish Emma since I’d the Curse hadn’t hit Snow and Chatming probably would have had more children.

      I didn’t mean to say that I thought Peter Pan would be part of the coven, I meant they could make a previously good character into a villain like with what they did with Peter Pan. Also, if Wish Emma had a sibling, it would have been mentioned in those two episodes (Wish You Were Here / Tougher Than The Rest)

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    • Yes I know that. That’s why I listed Goldilocks, Wish Emma, and French Snow White. Anyways what do you think of these guesses?

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote: Yes I know that. That’s why I listed Goldilocks, Wish Emma, and French Snow White. Anyways what do you think of these guesses?

      Jennifer Morrison isn’t coming back, so I don’t think they could do Wish Emma. Goldilocks and an alternate version of Snow White are possible, but I don’t know if they want to do another Snow White as she was a major character they focused on for six seasons.

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    • Per, A&E: "We'll definitely recognize a few of their names, absolutely. These are witches from iconic fairytales or Disney lore." http://www.tvguide.com/news/once-upon-a-time-bosses-lesbian-alice-robin-anastasia/

      So, let's keep in mind that they could just have their names, and nothing more.

      As confirmed/practically confirmed, we have:

      1. Gothel
      2. Anastasia
      3. Leota

      My personal ideas about the rest (I don't have a clear group of 8, just potential candidates)...

      1. Baba Yaga - I know it seems soooo unlikely, but I just want her sooo much on the show!
      2. The Crone - A typical folkloric character; also compared to the figure of the Hag. Would be cool to have a real "traditional" witch for once ^^
      3. Orddu/Orwen/Orgoch - One of the three witches. They are from The Black Cauldron ^^
      4. Mama Odie - I absolutely don't believe it, or think it will happen. But, it is a possibility if they want to link a bit more Tiana to the plot.
      5. Splendora Agatha Cromwell - The main Witch from the Halloweentown films... Absolutely random x) But, she seems quite big?
      6. Mother Trudy - She comes from a fairytale of the Brothers Grimm + could be a direct rival to Gothel?
      7. Hecate - Another figure from Greek Mytho, cos why not?
      8. Mizrabel - The main villain in the Castle of Illusion videogames with Mickey... Cos why not?
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    • Lady Junky wrote: Per, A&E: "We'll definitely recognize a few of their names, absolutely. These are witches from iconic fairytales or Disney lore." http://www.tvguide.com/news/once-upon-a-time-bosses-lesbian-alice-robin-anastasia/

      So, let's keep in mind that they could just have their names, and nothing more.

      As confirmed/practically confirmed, we have:

      1. Gothel
      2. Anastasia
      3. Leota

      My personal ideas about the rest (I don't have a clear group of 8, just potential candidates)...

      1. Baba Yaga - I know it seems soooo unlikely, but I just want her sooo much on the show!
      2. The Crone - A typical folkloric character; also compared to the figure of the Hag. Would be cool to have a real "traditional" witch for once ^^
      3. Orddu/Orwen/Orgoch - One of the three witches. They are from The Black Cauldron ^^
      4. Mama Odie - I absolutely don't believe it, or think it will happen. But, it is a possibility if they want to link a bit more Tiana to the plot.
      5. Splendora Agatha Cromwell - The main Witch from the Halloweentown films... Absolutely random x) But, she seems quite big?
      6. Mother Trudy - She comes from a fairytale of the Brothers Grimm + could be a direct rival to Gothel?
      7. Hecate - Another figure from Greek Mytho, cos why not?
      8. Mizrabel - The main villain in the Castle of Illusion videogames with Mickey... Cos why not?

      What if the actress on set of 715 with the blonde, braided hair is Vasilisa, the heroine of the first story that includes Baba Yaga?

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    • TheRose123 wrote:

      Lady Junky wrote: Per, A&E: "We'll definitely recognize a few of their names, absolutely. These are witches from iconic fairytales or Disney lore." http://www.tvguide.com/news/once-upon-a-time-bosses-lesbian-alice-robin-anastasia/

      So, let's keep in mind that they could just have their names, and nothing more.

      As confirmed/practically confirmed, we have:

      1. Gothel
      2. Anastasia
      3. Leota

      My personal ideas about the rest (I don't have a clear group of 8, just potential candidates)...

      1. Baba Yaga - I know it seems soooo unlikely, but I just want her sooo much on the show!
      2. The Crone - A typical folkloric character; also compared to the figure of the Hag. Would be cool to have a real "traditional" witch for once ^^
      3. Orddu/Orwen/Orgoch - One of the three witches. They are from The Black Cauldron ^^
      4. Mama Odie - I absolutely don't believe it, or think it will happen. But, it is a possibility if they want to link a bit more Tiana to the plot.
      5. Splendora Agatha Cromwell - The main Witch from the Halloweentown films... Absolutely random x) But, she seems quite big?
      6. Mother Trudy - She comes from a fairytale of the Brothers Grimm + could be a direct rival to Gothel?
      7. Hecate - Another figure from Greek Mytho, cos why not?
      8. Mizrabel - The main villain in the Castle of Illusion videogames with Mickey... Cos why not?

      What if the actress on set of 715 with the blonde, braided hair is Vasilisa, the heroine of the first story that includes Baba Yaga?


      My only problem is that they said "iconic". Baba Yaga is a waaaaay more known and iconic than Vasilisa. Plus, again, the nods could just be the names. Nothing stop them from making a blonde Baba Yaga or Trudy ^^

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    • I’d think that Hecate would be a good character if she were introduced as magic isn’t always evil.

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    • I updated my choices from earlier....

      1. Gothel (confirmed)

      2. Anastasia Tremaine (confirmed)

      3. Madame Leota (more or less confirmed)

      4. Baba Yaga

      5. Carabosse (aka New Maleficent)

      6. Yzma

      7. Circe (from Greek Mythology)

      8. Madam Mim

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Per, A&E: "We'll definitely recognize a few of their names, absolutely. These are witches from iconic fairytales or Disney lore."

      http://www.tvguide.com/news/once-upon-a-time-bosses-lesbian-alice-robin-anastasia/

      So, let's keep in mind that they could just have their names, and nothing more.

      As confirmed/practically confirmed, we have:

      1. Gothel
      2. Anastasia
      3. Leota

      My personal ideas about the rest (I don't have a clear group of 8, just potential candidates)...

      1. Baba Yaga - I know it seems soooo unlikely, but I just want her sooo much on the show!
      2. The Crone - A typical folkloric character; also compared to the figure of the Hag. Would be cool to have a real "traditional" witch for once ^^
      3. Orddu/Orwen/Orgoch - One of the three witches. They are from The Black Cauldron ^^
      4. Mama Odie - I absolutely don't believe it, or think it will happen. But, it is a possibility if they want to link a bit more Tiana to the plot.
      5. Splendora Agatha Cromwell - The main Witch from the Halloweentown films... Absolutely random x) But, she seems quite big?
      6. Mother Trudy - She comes from a fairytale of the Brothers Grimm + could be a direct rival to Gothel?
      7. Hecate - Another figure from Greek Mytho, cos why not?
      8. Mizrabel - The main villain in the Castle of Illusion videogames with Mickey... Cos why not?

      Some of these guesses are okay, but I do wonder how many Adam and Eddy would consider iconic from fairytales or Disney lore. If we look at it that way, I think things like Madam Mim, Yzma, or even the Sanderson Sisters are more likely than most of these, with the exceptions of Mama Odie and Hecate.

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    • As I said before, I think the goddess of magic would be good and not evil

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    • New guesses:

      DISNEY: Madam Mim Sanderson Sister(s?) Yzma Narissa (if we’re going into live-action territory) Madam Medusa (overlooked iconic Disney villainess. She has no magic in the film that I remember but neither did Cruella)

      LORE/FAIRYTALES: Morgana le Fay Circe Three Witches from Macbeth

      OTHER: Wish Realm Evil Queen. It’s unlikely that she’s living in Hyperion Heights and it’s confirmed that all the witches are, but I still think it’s a neat idea. A new version of Maleficent, Ursula or Cruella. Preferably Ursula: a fat purple grey haired Ursula.

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    • Also let’s not forget Tia Dalma. She was an overtaker in the Kingdom Keepers book (not that she was a saint in the films) and Haunted Mansion is a Disney Ride like Pirates is, so it’s not farfetched.

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    • 1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia 

      3. Madame Leota 

      4. Yzma: A good possibilty since we haven't seen the Emperor's New Grove protrayed throughout the show before. 

      5. Madam Mim: Yeah I can see this happening. We've been introduced to the whole Camelot arc so it wouldn't be a stretch. 

      6. The White Witch from Narnia 

      7 and 8: IDK 

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    • I hope they include Yzma.

      Another thought I had was The Fates from Hercules could make an appearance. Obviously not as grotesque as they were in the film. But one of the actresses on 7x15 does has blonde hair. I mean, they could've appeared in the Underworld arc, but I'm sure Gothel would find them interesting to be in her coven.

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    • AquaSoloSky wrote:
      I hope they include Yzma.

      Another thought I had was The Fates from Hercules could make an appearance. Obviously not as grotesque as they were in the film. But one of the actresses on 7x15 does has blonde hair. I mean, they could've appeared in the Underworld arc, but I'm sure Gothel would find them interesting to be in her coven.

      I'd rather save the Fates for something a little bigger than eight random witches ^.^ They need to either be completely neutral gods who are only referenced (as they have been before) or the big bads of the series.

      Yzma would be cool. I'm not big on Disney inserts, but Yzma has the most potential to be an interesting Once Upon a Time character out of all the Disney inserts mentioned here, in my opinion. I actually came up with a version of Yzma who also filled the role of Mother Gothel a long time ago and would have been part of a team of villains with Dr. Facilier, lol.

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    • 1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Madame Leota

      4. Morgan le Fay

      5. Circe/Hecate/Medea

      6. Madam Mim

      7. Yzma

      8. Baba Yaga

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    • I highly doubt that they wil introduce the Sanderson Sisters as the show seems to only have iconic fairytale, mythological, and Disney animated characters.  As for those who guessed Mama Odie, I just want to point out that the witches in the coven are dark/villains and evil and Mama Odie is good so it's highly unlikely she's a Coven member.

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    • Andrewh7 wrote:
      I highly doubt that they wil introduce the Sanderson Sisters as the show seems to only have iconic fairytale, mythological, and Disney animated characters.  As for those who guessed Mama Odie, I just want to point out that the witches in the coven are dark/villains and evil and Mama Odie is good so it's highly unlikely she's a Coven member.

      It's based largely on the fact that Dr. Facilier is Regina's new love interest and therefore presumably, at least eventually, a good guy. Last time we had a situation like this was Hook, who was followed immediately by a villainous Peter Pan. Other versions of The Frog Prince, including the novel The Princess and the Frog is more directly based on, have multiple villainous witches, so it's not unreasonable that Mama Odie could play that role while taking the Disney version's name.

      And Mama Odie could be the person Facilier is seeking revenge on in Hyperion Heights. Maybe she's the one who cursed him or whatever so that he needed the Firefly Ruby to do whatever he's trying to do.

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    • So, let's (re)try to guess:

      1. Gothel (confirmed)

      2. Anastasia (confirmed)

      3. Madame Leota

      4. Morgana Le Fay

      5. Yzma/Madam Mim (I think they'll go with just one Disney character)

      6. Baba Yaga

      7. Circe/Medea (same as before, I think they'll go with just one Greek mythology witch)

      8. A witch from Oz or Wonderland 

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    • AlbOuat wrote:

      8. A witch from Oz or Wonderland 

      Maybe Mombi, or The Duchess as others have suggested.

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    • Gonna update my list, too. I'm gonna leave out what I expect to see because I can't come up with eight logical choices, so here's a slightly more logical wishlist:

      1. Gothel
      2. Anastasia
      3. Leota
      4. Morgan le Fay
      5. Yzma
      6. Mombi
      7. Mama Odie
      8. Frau Trude

      It's worth noting that all of these characters except Leota have some familial importance in their original stories. Mother Gothel, Mama Odie, and Frau Trude/Mother Trudy are the most obvious ones. Anastasia is Cinderella's stepsister. Morgan le Fay is Arthur's half-sister. Yzma is implied to have been a surrogate mother for Kuzco. And Mombi raised Ozma as her son, Tip. Given Gothel's obsession with her "family", this would make sense for a theme of the Coven. (I'm not sure where Leota would fit in, though.)

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    • Andrewh7 wrote:
      I highly doubt that they wil introduce the Sanderson Sisters as the show seems to only have iconic fairytale, mythological, and Disney animated characters.  As for those who guessed Mama Odie, I just want to point out that the witches in the coven are dark/villains and evil and Mama Odie is good so it's highly unlikely she's a Coven member.

      We know a Haunted Mansion character is coming, and she would not be from a fairytale, mythology, or animated Disney film, so that takes out the point about the Sanderson Sisters. As for Mama Odie, as Dat pointed out, they have made good characters evil before, so it wouldn't be that big of a shock if they did it with her.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Andrewh7 wrote:
      I highly doubt that they wil introduce the Sanderson Sisters as the show seems to only have iconic fairytale, mythological, and Disney animated characters.  As for those who guessed Mama Odie, I just want to point out that the witches in the coven are dark/villains and evil and Mama Odie is good so it's highly unlikely she's a Coven member.
      It's based largely on the fact that Dr. Facilier is Regina's new love interest and therefore presumably, at least eventually, a good guy. Last time we had a situation like this was Hook, who was followed immediately by a villainous Peter Pan. Other versions of The Frog Prince, including the novel The Princess and the Frog is more directly based on, have multiple villainous witches, so it's not unreasonable that Mama Odie could play that role while taking the Disney version's name.

      And Mama Odie could be the person Facilier is seeking revenge on in Hyperion Heights. Maybe she's the one who cursed him or whatever so that he needed the Firefly Ruby to do whatever he's trying to do.

      When was it stated Dr. Facilier was Regina's new love interest?

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    • Andrewh7 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Andrewh7 wrote:
      I highly doubt that they wil introduce the Sanderson Sisters as the show seems to only have iconic fairytale, mythological, and Disney animated characters.  As for those who guessed Mama Odie, I just want to point out that the witches in the coven are dark/villains and evil and Mama Odie is good so it's highly unlikely she's a Coven member.
      It's based largely on the fact that Dr. Facilier is Regina's new love interest and therefore presumably, at least eventually, a good guy. Last time we had a situation like this was Hook, who was followed immediately by a villainous Peter Pan. Other versions of The Frog Prince, including the novel The Princess and the Frog is more directly based on, have multiple villainous witches, so it's not unreasonable that Mama Odie could play that role while taking the Disney version's name.

      And Mama Odie could be the person Facilier is seeking revenge on in Hyperion Heights. Maybe she's the one who cursed him or whatever so that he needed the Firefly Ruby to do whatever he's trying to do.

      When was it stated Dr. Facilier was Regina's new love interest?

      We have seen them filming together in scenes that suggest they are being romantically paired (plus confirmation from set goers).

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      But good catch with the Dark Curse scroll

      The original was destroyed and Drizella was shown to have it in 7x10

      That HAVE to be the WDark Curse scroll. There is no other explanation. So the WRealm will totally return in 7B

      It could be a brand new one.  Either Gothel or another witch could have known it and recreated it or was skilled enough in magic to make one of their own.

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    • Given the newest episode title, one of the witches is almost certainly a new version of the Blind Witch. A new Gretel could also be one of the witches, depending on how they twist the story.

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    • I would like a new Blind Witch or a new Gretel as one of the coven members, because a couple of obscure characters I don't mind, but all of them? Kinda boring, and it's not what the writers teased. Hansel and Gretel is an iconic fairy tale, so I'll take it.

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    • Maybe adult hansel and gretel... witch Hunter... because I think the whole hansel and gretel story havé been realy well done in the first season. Witch hunter will fit perfectly in the story and we could learn about where they were all those years

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    • New and improved list

      1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Leota

      4. WEvilQueen

      5. Yzma

      6. Blind Witch

      7. French Snow White

      8. WEmma Swan

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    • 7. French Snow White

      8. WEmma Swan

      Adam and Eddy have confirmed there will be no new iteration of Snow White. And Emma does not have a Wish Realm version. Emma herself was sent to the Wish Realm, remember? Anyway, i don't think Jen's returning for S7.

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      7. French Snow White

      8. WEmma Swan

      Adam and Eddy have confirmed there will be no new iteration of Snow White. And Emma does not have a Wish Realm version. Emma herself was sent to the Wish Realm, remember? Anyway, i don't think Jen's returning for S7.

      Emma obviously does have a Wish Realm version as everyone knew who she was and was born around the time the Curse was supposed to be cast. She was just sent in WEmma.

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    • Let's not discuss Wish Realm in regard to Emma. There is no WR Emma canonically found. It's best to not discuss that in this thread.

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    • Eskaver wrote: Let's not discuss Wish Realm in regard to Emma. There is no WR Emma canonically found. It's best to not discuss that in this thread.

      Besides guys, it doesn't seem as though Jennifer has been filming anyways.

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    • TheRose123 wrote: Here’s my new list, ranked on how likely they are:

      (1) Gothel (confirmed)

      (2) Anastasia (confirmed)

      (3) Madame Leota (very likely)~

      (4) Morgana Le Fay (likely)~~

      (5) Blind Witch (likely)

      (6) Mama Odie (fifty-fifty)

      (7) Baba Yaga (not likely)

      My last guess is the Blind Witch.

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    • You know... with all these witches and new characters, I'm kinda sad we are not hearing any big casting announcements.

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    • Any new scoop on the Coven of Eight on Once Upon a Time? — Jason
      Just that it sounds like some of the Coven may not necessarily evil. “Some of them turn out to be not quite the personalities or the figureheads that they seem to be,” Andrew J. West tells me. “We’re going to see some people had different goals all along and those will be revealed down the line. There could be some characters that are way more complex than just evil or just good. We’ll see some characters who had intentions that you could label as evil that could start to change or see the light. Who will that be? Will that be Gothel? We don’t know yet.”

      source: http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/11/spoiler-room-shield-blindspot-greys/

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Any new scoop on the Coven of Eight on Once Upon a Time? — Jason
      Just that it sounds like some of the Coven may not necessarily evil. “Some of them turn out to be not quite the personalities or the figureheads that they seem to be,” Andrew J. West tells me. “We’re going to see some people had different goals all along and those will be revealed down the line. There could be some characters that are way more complex than just evil or just good. We’ll see some characters who had intentions that you could label as evil that could start to change or see the light. Who will that be? Will that be Gothel? We don’t know yet.”

      source: http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/11/spoiler-room-shield-blindspot-greys/

      Well, there's our solution for the absence of Tremaine and Drizella. (That's another thread, though.)

      It's safe to say, then, that at least one member of the Coven will be at least Alice/Drizella/Gothel level importance. It could be Gothel, but I doubt it, or it could be Leota, the Blind Witch, etc.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      Any new scoop on the Coven of Eight on Once Upon a Time? — Jason
      Just that it sounds like some of the Coven may not necessarily evil. “Some of them turn out to be not quite the personalities or the figureheads that they seem to be,” Andrew J. West tells me. “We’re going to see some people had different goals all along and those will be revealed down the line. There could be some characters that are way more complex than just evil or just good. We’ll see some characters who had intentions that you could label as evil that could start to change or see the light. Who will that be? Will that be Gothel? We don’t know yet.”

      source: http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/11/spoiler-room-shield-blindspot-greys/

      Well, there's our solution for the absence of Tremaine and Drizella. (That's another thread, though.)

      It's safe to say, then, that at least one member of the Coven will be at least Alice/Drizella/Gothel level importance. It could be Gothel, but I doubt it, or it could be Leota, the Blind Witch, etc.

      The Blind Witch is dead in either realm so she can't be a member of the Coven.

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    • Andrewh7 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      Any new scoop on the Coven of Eight on Once Upon a Time? — Jason
      Just that it sounds like some of the Coven may not necessarily evil. “Some of them turn out to be not quite the personalities or the figureheads that they seem to be,” Andrew J. West tells me. “We’re going to see some people had different goals all along and those will be revealed down the line. There could be some characters that are way more complex than just evil or just good. We’ll see some characters who had intentions that you could label as evil that could start to change or see the light. Who will that be? Will that be Gothel? We don’t know yet.”

      source: http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/11/spoiler-room-shield-blindspot-greys/

      Well, there's our solution for the absence of Tremaine and Drizella. (That's another thread, though.)

      It's safe to say, then, that at least one member of the Coven will be at least Alice/Drizella/Gothel level importance. It could be Gothel, but I doubt it, or it could be Leota, the Blind Witch, etc.

      The Blind Witch is dead in either realm so she can't be a member of the Coven.

      We're talking about a potential NEW iteration of the Blind Witch, not the original one.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Any new scoop on the Coven of Eight on Once Upon a Time? — Jason
      Just that it sounds like some of the Coven may not necessarily evil. “Some of them turn out to be not quite the personalities or the figureheads that they seem to be,” Andrew J. West tells me. “We’re going to see some people had different goals all along and those will be revealed down the line. There could be some characters that are way more complex than just evil or just good. We’ll see some characters who had intentions that you could label as evil that could start to change or see the light. Who will that be? Will that be Gothel? We don’t know yet.”

      source: http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/11/spoiler-room-shield-blindspot-greys/

      Interesting, so the coven members won't all be "bad" per say. I wonder why all the witches were listening to Gothel then. I'm sure we will find out their reasoning.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:

      Lady Junky wrote:
      Any new scoop on the Coven of Eight on Once Upon a Time? — Jason
      Just that it sounds like some of the Coven may not necessarily evil. “Some of them turn out to be not quite the personalities or the figureheads that they seem to be,” Andrew J. West tells me. “We’re going to see some people had different goals all along and those will be revealed down the line. There could be some characters that are way more complex than just evil or just good. We’ll see some characters who had intentions that you could label as evil that could start to change or see the light. Who will that be? Will that be Gothel? We don’t know yet.”

      source: http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/11/spoiler-room-shield-blindspot-greys/

      Interesting, so the coven members won't all be "bad" per say. I wonder why all the witches were listening to Gothel then. I'm sure we will find out their reasoning.

      Maybe she has leverage over them...

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    • TheRose123 wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote:

      Lady Junky wrote:
      Any new scoop on the Coven of Eight on Once Upon a Time? — Jason
      Just that it sounds like some of the Coven may not necessarily evil. “Some of them turn out to be not quite the personalities or the figureheads that they seem to be,” Andrew J. West tells me. “We’re going to see some people had different goals all along and those will be revealed down the line. There could be some characters that are way more complex than just evil or just good. We’ll see some characters who had intentions that you could label as evil that could start to change or see the light. Who will that be? Will that be Gothel? We don’t know yet.”

      source: http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/11/spoiler-room-shield-blindspot-greys/

      Interesting, so the coven members won't all be "bad" per say. I wonder why all the witches were listening to Gothel then. I'm sure we will find out their reasoning.

      Maybe she has leverage over them...

      Or maybe it's something more like Ursula or Ingrid. Ursula wanted power, respect, and freedom. Ingrid wanted love. Both were evil villains, but once they got what they wanted they stopped doing evil things.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      TheRose123 wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote:


      Lady Junky wrote:
      Any new scoop on the Coven of Eight on Once Upon a Time? — Jason
      Just that it sounds like some of the Coven may not necessarily evil. “Some of them turn out to be not quite the personalities or the figureheads that they seem to be,” Andrew J. West tells me. “We’re going to see some people had different goals all along and those will be revealed down the line. There could be some characters that are way more complex than just evil or just good. We’ll see some characters who had intentions that you could label as evil that could start to change or see the light. Who will that be? Will that be Gothel? We don’t know yet.”

      source: http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/11/spoiler-room-shield-blindspot-greys/

      Interesting, so the coven members won't all be "bad" per say. I wonder why all the witches were listening to Gothel then. I'm sure we will find out their reasoning.
      Maybe she has leverage over them...
      Or maybe it's something more like Ursula or Ingrid. Ursula wanted power, respect, and freedom. Ingrid wanted love. Both were evil villains, but once they got what they wanted they stopped doing evil things.

      Or they really are like a "family" and have care for one another like a family would.

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    • I think Cecelia is part of this Coven :

      1. Her death was never prooved, just reported by Alice

      2. Her heart was cursed by a New Wonderland mushroom

      3. Maybe she's a new queen of hearts

      4. In mythology, Cecaelia (which is almost the same word) means octopus/sea witch. What if she's the new Ursula?

      5. The name Cecelia means "blind". What if she's the new blind witch?

      6. What if she's actually the queen of hearts, Ursula AND the blind witch at the same time?

      7. Following the theory that Dr. Facilier is Cinderella's biological father, maybe Cecelia knew him because they we're both graduated from Elphame Academy

      8. I'd like a backstory of Gideon and Robin friendship at Elphame Academy

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    • Oh and also, maybe she lost her legs after the jabberwock attack and then became a sea witch

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    • CGeorges1 wrote: I think Cecelia is part of this Coven :

      1. Her death was never prooved, just reported by Alice

      2. Her heart was cursed by a New Wonderland mushroom

      3. Maybe she's a new queen of hearts

      4. In mythology, Cecaelia (which is almost the same word) means octopus/sea witch. What if she's the new Ursula?

      5. The name Cecelia means "blind". What if she's the new blind witch?

      6. What if she's actually the queen of hearts, Ursula AND the blind witch at the same time?

      7. Following the theory that Dr. Facilier is Cinderella's biological father, maybe Cecelia knew him because they we're both graduated from Elphame Academy

      8. I'd like a backstory of Gideon and Robin friendship at Elphame Academy

      I like the idea of Cecilia being a member of the coven - maybe the Jabberwock scratched out her eyes, hence her being blind. She is later imbued with magic, and becomes the Blind Witch.

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    • TheRose123 wrote:

      CGeorges1 wrote: I think Cecelia is part of this Coven :

      1. Her death was never prooved, just reported by Alice

      2. Her heart was cursed by a New Wonderland mushroom

      3. Maybe she's a new queen of hearts

      4. In mythology, Cecaelia (which is almost the same word) means octopus/sea witch. What if she's the new Ursula?

      5. The name Cecelia means "blind". What if she's the new blind witch?

      6. What if she's actually the queen of hearts, Ursula AND the blind witch at the same time?

      7. Following the theory that Dr. Facilier is Cinderella's biological father, maybe Cecelia knew him because they we're both graduated from Elphame Academy

      8. I'd like a backstory of Gideon and Robin friendship at Elphame Academy

      I like the idea of Cecilia being a member of the coven - maybe the Jabberwock scratched out her eyes, hence her being blind. She is later imbued with magic, and becomes the Blind Witch.

      Am I missing something? Who is Cecelia? or is that justa play on "cecaelia"?

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    • MickeysPal wrote:
      TheRose123 wrote:

      CGeorges1 wrote: I think Cecelia is part of this Coven :

      1. Her death was never prooved, just reported by Alice

      2. Her heart was cursed by a New Wonderland mushroom

      3. Maybe she's a new queen of hearts

      4. In mythology, Cecaelia (which is almost the same word) means octopus/sea witch. What if she's the new Ursula?

      5. The name Cecelia means "blind". What if she's the new blind witch?

      6. What if she's actually the queen of hearts, Ursula AND the blind witch at the same time?

      7. Following the theory that Dr. Facilier is Cinderella's biological father, maybe Cecelia knew him because they we're both graduated from Elphame Academy

      8. I'd like a backstory of Gideon and Robin friendship at Elphame Academy

      I like the idea of Cecilia being a member of the coven - maybe the Jabberwock scratched out her eyes, hence her being blind. She is later imbued with magic, and becomes the Blind Witch.
      Am I missing something? Who is Cecelia? or is that justa play on "cecaelia"?

      Cecelia.

      EDIT: WRONG LINK WHOOPS

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    • 1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Leota

      4. Evil Queen (Wish Realm)

      5. Blind Witch

      6. Jabberwocky

      7. Yzma

      8. Mama Odie

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      MickeysPal wrote:
      TheRose123 wrote:

      CGeorges1 wrote: I think Cecelia is part of this Coven :

      1. Her death was never prooved, just reported by Alice

      2. Her heart was cursed by a New Wonderland mushroom

      3. Maybe she's a new queen of hearts

      4. In mythology, Cecaelia (which is almost the same word) means octopus/sea witch. What if she's the new Ursula?

      5. The name Cecelia means "blind". What if she's the new blind witch?

      6. What if she's actually the queen of hearts, Ursula AND the blind witch at the same time?

      7. Following the theory that Dr. Facilier is Cinderella's biological father, maybe Cecelia knew him because they we're both graduated from Elphame Academy

      8. I'd like a backstory of Gideon and Robin friendship at Elphame Academy

      I like the idea of Cecilia being a member of the coven - maybe the Jabberwock scratched out her eyes, hence her being blind. She is later imbued with magic, and becomes the Blind Witch.
      Am I missing something? Who is Cecelia? or is that justa play on "cecaelia"?
      Cecelia.

      EDIT: WRONG LINK WHOOPS

      Ah, okay. I forgot thatwas the name of Cinderella's mother.

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    • Sorry to be late to the party but thinking of witches from literature or fairytales:

      The witches from MacBeth?

      New EF Evil Queen?

      The White Witch from Narnia? (which is Disney)

      The Wicked Witch of the East?

      The Saunderson Sisters? (okay this ione is more of a joke)

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    • Aine1989 wrote: Sorry to be late to the party but thinking of witches from literature or fairytales:

      The witches from MacBeth?

      New EF Evil Queen?

      The White Witch from Narnia? (which is Disney)

      The Wicked Witch of the East?

      The Saunderson Sisters? (okay this ione is more of a joke)

      The white witch could also be the alternate version of The Snow Queen in the NEF.

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    • Maybe as well as the witches... Lady MacBeth herself could be one?

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    • Aine1989 wrote:

      The White Witch from Narnia? (which is Disney)

      Disney sold the Narnia rights, so unfortunatly this is unlikely to happen.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Aine1989 wrote:

      The White Witch from Narnia? (which is Disney)

      Disney sold the Narnia rights, so unfortunatly this is unlikely to happen.

      I should really come out of this rock I live under because I did not know that

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    • Aine1989 wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Aine1989 wrote:

      The White Witch from Narnia? (which is Disney)

      Disney sold the Narnia rights, so unfortunatly this is unlikely to happen.
      I should really come out of this rock I live under because I did not know that

      Yes :/ Unfortunately, the next Narnia movie is being produced by Sony Pictures or something like that. 

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Aine1989 wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Aine1989 wrote:

      The White Witch from Narnia? (which is Disney)

      Disney sold the Narnia rights, so unfortunatly this is unlikely to happen.
      I should really come out of this rock I live under because I did not know that
      Yes :/ Unfortunately, the next Narnia movie is being produced by Sony Pictures or something like that. 

      Which sucks because Narnia would be fantastic on Once. It's really the only big "alternate fairytale world" they haven't done since we have Wonderland, Neverland, and Oz.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Aine1989 wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Aine1989 wrote:

      The White Witch from Narnia? (which is Disney)

      Disney sold the Narnia rights, so unfortunatly this is unlikely to happen.
      I should really come out of this rock I live under because I did not know that
      Yes :/ Unfortunately, the next Narnia movie is being produced by Sony Pictures or something like that. 
      Which sucks because Narnia would be fantastic on Once. It's really the only big "alternate fairytale world" they haven't done since we have Wonderland, Neverland, and Oz.

      Meh, I personally don't really see Narnia on Once anyway. Just to represent the world of Narnia in the show in the first place, it would be complicated : I doubt they can really do anything different than Enchanted forest in terms of setting and scenery, and because of budget they can't animated a lot of CGI anthropomorphic animals.

      Besides that, I also don't think all religious stuff fit in Once. I mean, yes there was a lot of biblic metaphors and all in fairytales and old classics Disney too, and even the show makes very small references few times, but in Narnia all the christian double entendre is really base of C. S. Lewis's work, even in the movies (less but still).

      Also, even if Narnia is a big classic, I wouldn't rank it at the same level than Wonderland, Neverland, Oz and the others stuffs adapted in Once that are really way more iconics in literature culture (and wouldn't classify it as a fairytale either but I understand what you means).

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Aine1989 wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Aine1989 wrote:

      The White Witch from Narnia? (which is Disney)

      Disney sold the Narnia rights, so unfortunatly this is unlikely to happen.
      I should really come out of this rock I live under because I did not know that
      Yes :/ Unfortunately, the next Narnia movie is being produced by Sony Pictures or something like that. 

      And even long before that, it's been now ten years since Disney dropped the franchise for the benefit of 20th Century Fox that has co-produced the third movie. And now that Disney is buying Fox, their rights has expired since few years and Sony and eOne has recovered them.

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    • I have  a couple of guesses:

      Obviously they are

      Gothel

      Anastasia

      The other six I'm guessing

      1.       Madam Mim

      2.       Madame Leota from the Haunted Mansion

      3.       Yzma

      4.       And the Three sanderson witches 



      I also thought Alice could be a potential one, being Gothel's daughter and everything,  but I don't recall her ever using magical abilities. But hopefully, they'll stray away from a parent trying to convince their child to join the dark side (don't want another Vader/Luke scenario to happen)

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    • My new and improved list. Plz don’t ignore this comment

      1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Leota

      4. Gretel

      5. Goldilocks

      6. Tiana

      7. Mama Odie

      8. Yzma

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    • 1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Leota

      4. Gretel

      5. Goldilocks

      6. Tiana

      7. Mama Odie

      8. Yzma

      Tiana? Nah.

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    • I don't know... just give Tiana something to do. Although I don't see her in the coven.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      I don't know... just give Tiana something to do. Although I don't see her in the coven.

      I mean, we're getting Facilier and Naveen, so hopefully that means Tiana will be doing something. I doubt she'll be a secret evil threat, though. After all, she was still at the castle with Lucy when the curse was cast.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      I don't know... just give Tiana something to do. Although I don't see her in the coven.

      I mean, we're getting Facilier and Naveen, so hopefully that means Tiana will be doing something. I doubt she'll be a secret evil threat, though. After all, she was still at the castle with Lucy when the curse was cast.

      Adam and Eddy explicitly stated that many members of the coven were not evil. Plus Tiana didn’t appear when the Curse was casted.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      DatNuttyKid wrote:


      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      I don't know... just give Tiana something to do. Although I don't see her in the coven.
      I mean, we're getting Facilier and Naveen, so hopefully that means Tiana will be doing something. I doubt she'll be a secret evil threat, though. After all, she was still at the castle with Lucy when the curse was cast.
      Adam and Eddy explicitly stated that many members of the coven were not evil. Plus Tiana didn’t appear when the Curse was casted.

      Yes she did? She was in her castle with Lucy. 

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      DatNuttyKid wrote:


      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      I don't know... just give Tiana something to do. Although I don't see her in the coven.
      I mean, we're getting Facilier and Naveen, so hopefully that means Tiana will be doing something. I doubt she'll be a secret evil threat, though. After all, she was still at the castle with Lucy when the curse was cast.
      Adam and Eddy explicitly stated that many members of the coven were not evil. Plus Tiana didn’t appear when the Curse was casted.
      Yes she did? She was in her castle with Lucy. 

      710CurseEngulfing2.png ^^

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    • Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      DatNuttyKid wrote:


      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      I don't know... just give Tiana something to do. Although I don't see her in the coven.
      I mean, we're getting Facilier and Naveen, so hopefully that means Tiana will be doing something. I doubt she'll be a secret evil threat, though. After all, she was still at the castle with Lucy when the curse was cast.
      Adam and Eddy explicitly stated that many members of the coven were not evil. Plus Tiana didn’t appear when the Curse was casted.
      Yes she did? She was in her castle with Lucy. 

      710CurseEngulfing2.png ^^

      Only seven witches were present. The eight hooded figure was Henry, meaning one Witch was not present. It could be Tiana.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      DatNuttyKid wrote:


      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      I don't know... just give Tiana something to do. Although I don't see her in the coven.
      I mean, we're getting Facilier and Naveen, so hopefully that means Tiana will be doing something. I doubt she'll be a secret evil threat, though. After all, she was still at the castle with Lucy when the curse was cast.
      Adam and Eddy explicitly stated that many members of the coven were not evil. Plus Tiana didn’t appear when the Curse was casted.
      Yes she did? She was in her castle with Lucy. 

      710CurseEngulfing2.png ^^

      Only seven witches were present. The eight hooded figure was Henry, meaning one Witch was not present. It could be Tiana.

      Or there is only seven witches, and finding the last one is part of the coven’s goal.

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    • Regina was the Eighth Witch for the curse casting. I don't know how many times I've had to explain this.

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    • TheRose123 wrote:

      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      Lady Rapunzel wrote:

      Lady Rapunzel wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      DatNuttyKid wrote:



      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      I don't know... just give Tiana something to do. Although I don't see her in the coven.
      I mean, we're getting Facilier and Naveen, so hopefully that means Tiana will be doing something. I doubt she'll be a secret evil threat, though. After all, she was still at the castle with Lucy when the curse was cast.
      Adam and Eddy explicitly stated that many members of the coven were not evil. Plus Tiana didn’t appear when the Curse was casted.
      Yes she did? She was in her castle with Lucy. 
      710CurseEngulfing2.png ^^
      Only seven witches were present. The eight hooded figure was Henry, meaning one Witch was not present. It could be Tiana.

      Or there is only seven witches, and finding the last one is part of the coven’s goal.

      I think what TheRose said is the most likely option. Then we could see Gothel trying to recruit Alice, Robin, and/or Lucy. Theoretically I guess Tiana could also be a potential recruit but Alice, Robin, and Lucy all have reasons to believe they're magical and Tiana doesn't.

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    • I rather be surprised to who the witches are and give recognition to their names, But I will take a nice guess.

      So far it is confirmed for now:

      Mother Gothel

      Anastasia

      Leota (seems somehow hinted for now)

      For the rest maybe:

      Madam Mim

      Mombi

      Morgana le Fay

      Queen La from Tarzan

      Maybe Yzma

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    • TIAB1234 wrote: I rather be surprised to who the witches are and give recognition to their names, But I will take a nice guess.

      So far it is confirmed for now:

      Mother Gothel

      Anastasia

      Leota (seems somehow hinted for now)

      For the rest maybe:

      Madam Mim-Unlikely

      Mombi-Possible

      Morgana le Fay-Unlikely

      Queen La from Tarzan-Unlikely

      Maybe Yzma-Likely

      Comments in bold

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    • All I am saying is if they do use Yzma, they better have "pull the lever, *insert person here*"  somewhere in there.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      TIAB1234 wrote: I rather be surprised to who the witches are and give recognition to their names, But I will take a nice guess.

      So far it is confirmed for now:

      Mother Gothel

      Anastasia

      Leota (seems somehow hinted for now)

      For the rest maybe:

      Madam Mim-Unlikely

      Mombi-Possible

      Morgana le Fay-Unlikely

      Queen La from Tarzan-Unlikely

      Maybe Yzma-Likely

      Comments in bold

      Will you stop poking holes in my comment. I didn't poke on your comment. It was pointless and a bit rude.

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:

      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      TIAB1234 wrote: I rather be surprised to who the witches are and give recognition to their names, But I will take a nice guess.

      So far it is confirmed for now:

      Mother Gothel

      Anastasia

      Leota (seems somehow hinted for now)

      For the rest maybe:

      Madam Mim-Unlikely

      Mombi-Possible

      Morgana le Fay-Unlikely

      Queen La from Tarzan-Unlikely

      Maybe Yzma-Likely

      Comments in bold

      Will you stop poking holes in my comment. I didn't poke on your comment. It was pointless and a bit rude.

      I didn’t mean to offend you in any way. I said that many were possible and one very likely.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      TIAB1234 wrote: I rather be surprised to who the witches are and give recognition to their names, But I will take a nice guess.

      So far it is confirmed for now:

      Mother Gothel

      Anastasia

      Leota (seems somehow hinted for now)

      For the rest maybe:

      Madam Mim-Unlikely

      Mombi-Possible

      Morgana le Fay-Unlikely

      Queen La from Tarzan-Unlikely

      Maybe Yzma-Likely

      Comments in bold

      I agree that Queen La is very unlikely -- not only is Tarzan itself an unlikely story to be adapted for reasons I don't feel like delving into right now but can if someone asks, but she is from a lesser-known cartoon series based solely on the Disney movie, whereas any possible adaption of Tarzan would probably be based at least partially on the original story -- but what makes you think Madam Mim and Morgana are unlikely? I doubt we'll get both, but I could see one or the other. (I'd personally prefer Morgana.)

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      TIAB1234 wrote: I rather be surprised to who the witches are and give recognition to their names, But I will take a nice guess.

      So far it is confirmed for now:

      Mother Gothel

      Anastasia

      Leota (seems somehow hinted for now)

      For the rest maybe:

      Madam Mim-Unlikely

      Mombi-Possible

      Morgana le Fay-Unlikely

      Queen La from Tarzan-Unlikely

      Maybe Yzma-Likely

      Comments in bold
      I agree that Queen La is very unlikely -- not only is Tarzan itself an unlikely story to be adapted for reasons I don't feel like delving into right now but can if someone asks, but she is from a lesser-known cartoon series based solely on the Disney movie, whereas any possible adaption of Tarzan would probably be based at least partially on the original story -- but what makes you think Madam Mim and Morgana are unlikely? I doubt we'll get both, but I could see one or the other. (I'd personally prefer Morgana.)

      It was just a nice imaginitive thought and I already know about the Tarzan thing. I read it.

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      TIAB1234 wrote: I rather be surprised to who the witches are and give recognition to their names, But I will take a nice guess.

      So far it is confirmed for now:

      Mother Gothel

      Anastasia

      Leota (seems somehow hinted for now)

      For the rest maybe:

      Madam Mim-Unlikely

      Mombi-Possible

      Morgana le Fay-Unlikely

      Queen La from Tarzan-Unlikely

      Maybe Yzma-Likely

      Comments in bold
      I agree that Queen La is very unlikely -- not only is Tarzan itself an unlikely story to be adapted for reasons I don't feel like delving into right now but can if someone asks, but she is from a lesser-known cartoon series based solely on the Disney movie, whereas any possible adaption of Tarzan would probably be based at least partially on the original story -- but what makes you think Madam Mim and Morgana are unlikely? I doubt we'll get both, but I could see one or the other. (I'd personally prefer Morgana.)
      It was just a nice imaginitive thought and I already know about the Tarzan thing. I read it.

      Fair enough. There are plenty of characters I'd like to see that are nigh-impossible.

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    • Aine1989 wrote:
      All I am saying is if they do use Yzma, they better have "pull the lever, *insert person here*"  somewhere in there.

      Yes, totally agree with this!

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Aine1989 wrote:
      All I am saying is if they do use Yzma, they better have "pull the lever, *insert person here*"  somewhere in there.
      Yes, totally agree with this!

      "Pull the lever, Drizella!"

      "Don't tell me what to do!" *pulls lever anyway*

      That said, I am liking the idea of Yzma more and more. Not only is she a fantastic character, but she's more of an alchemist/scientist than a normal witch. Even if they don't go the full science route, a potionmaster, as opposed to a spellcaster, would be a great deviation from the norm.

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    • My Wishlist for the Coven:

      Gothel.

      Anastasia.

      Yzma.

      Madame Mim.

      Mama Odie.

      Lily/Maleficent.

      Hook's Mother.

      The Blue Fairy.

      I also like Madame Leota, the Enchantress from Beauty and the Beast, and Queen Narissa.

      QUESTION: Are they even allowed to do the White Witch from Narnia? 

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    • Rwo

      KillianWeasley wrote:

      QUESTION: Are they even allowed to do the White Witch from Narnia? 

      I think Walden Media (Anschutz Corp) owns the rights. Disney co-produced and distributed the first two movies, while 20th Century Fox worked for the third one. Now that Fox is owned by Disney, maybe…

      ERRATUM: This Wikipedia page seems to have more info about the rights' current status. The next movie The Silver Chair is to be produced by Mark Gordon (who produced series and movies with Disney and ABC)

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    • "7x16 - Breadcrumbs" = New Blind Witch?
      "7x17 - Chosen" = Regina? (She's chosen to be part of them)

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    • ThisIsTaboada wrote: "7x16 - Breadcrumbs" = New Blind Witch?
      "7x17 - Chosen" = Regina? (She's chosen to be part of them)

      I think that Mama Odie will take the place of the Blind Witch

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    • ThisIsTaboada wrote:
      "7x16 - Breadcrumbs" = New Blind Witch?

      Maybe they're bringing back Hansel and Gretel? I don't think there would be a new Blind Witch.

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    • KillianWeasley wrote:

      ThisIsTaboada wrote:
      "7x16 - Breadcrumbs" = New Blind Witch?

      Maybe they're bringing back Hansel and Gretel? I don't think there would be a new Blind Witch.

      As I said before, I think that Mama Odie will take her place.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      KillianWeasley wrote:

      ThisIsTaboada wrote:
      "7x16 - Breadcrumbs" = New Blind Witch?

      Maybe they're bringing back Hansel and Gretel? I don't think there would be a new Blind Witch.

      As I said before, I think that Mama Odie will take her place.

      Her name reminds me of this dog in the Garfield comics xD

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    • KillianWeasley wrote: My Wishlist for the Coven:

      Gothel.

      Anastasia.

      Yzma.

      Madame Mim.

      Mama Odie.

      Lily/Maleficent.

      Hook's Mother.

      The Blue Fairy.

      I also like Madame Leota, the Enchantress from Beauty and the Beast, and Queen Narissa.

      QUESTION: Are they even allowed to do the White Witch from Narnia? 

      I like the idea of Hooks mother being in the coven, but would it be Alice from the EF or WAlice? The Blue Fairy is extremely unlikely however. Same for Madame Mim. I’m hoping Yzma will be introduced, so they could reveal Kuzco to be Cinderella’s father.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      KillianWeasley wrote: My Wishlist for the Coven:

      Gothel.

      Anastasia.

      Yzma.

      Madame Mim.

      Mama Odie.

      Lily/Maleficent.

      Hook's Mother.

      The Blue Fairy.

      I also like Madame Leota, the Enchantress from Beauty and the Beast, and Queen Narissa.

      QUESTION: Are they even allowed to do the White Witch from Narnia? 

      I like the idea of Hooks mother being in the coven, but would it be Alice from the EF or WAlice? The Blue Fairy is extremely unlikely however. Same for Madame Mim. I’m hoping Yzma will be introduced, so they could reveal Kuzco to be Cinderella’s father.

      The Blue Fairy is very unlikely, although I've always suspected that she would be evil. Kuzco being Cinderella's father would be awesome. 

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      KillianWeasley wrote: My Wishlist for the Coven:

      Gothel.

      Anastasia.

      Yzma.

      Madame Mim.

      Mama Odie.

      Lily/Maleficent.

      Hook's Mother.

      The Blue Fairy.

      I also like Madame Leota, the Enchantress from Beauty and the Beast, and Queen Narissa.

      QUESTION: Are they even allowed to do the White Witch from Narnia? 

      I like the idea of Hooks mother being in the coven, but would it be Alice from the EF or WAlice? The Blue Fairy is extremely unlikely however. Same for Madame Mim. I’m hoping Yzma will be introduced, so they could reveal Kuzco to be Cinderella’s father.

      Why Would mad madame mim be unlikely ?? anyways that's one of them I'm really hoping for.

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    • Queenofdarkness89 wrote:

      Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      KillianWeasley wrote: My Wishlist for the Coven:

      Gothel.

      Anastasia.

      Yzma.

      Madame Mim.

      Mama Odie.

      Lily/Maleficent.

      Hook's Mother.

      The Blue Fairy.

      I also like Madame Leota, the Enchantress from Beauty and the Beast, and Queen Narissa.

      QUESTION: Are they even allowed to do the White Witch from Narnia? 

      I like the idea of Hooks mother being in the coven, but would it be Alice from the EF or WAlice? The Blue Fairy is extremely unlikely however. Same for Madame Mim. I’m hoping Yzma will be introduced, so they could reveal Kuzco to be Cinderella’s father.
      Why Would mad madame mim be unlikely ?? anyways that's one of them I'm really hoping for.

      I don't know that I'd call her unlikely but I would like to think they'd use Morgan le Fay over a Disney insert and I can't see them doing both.

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    • I'd say.

      Gothel

      Madame Leoda

      Madame Mim

      Baba Yaga

      Morgan Le Fey

      Esmerelda

      Dr. Facilier (due to possible compromise possibly involving Ana)

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    • Here's some I think have a chance of showing up:

      Yzma (long shot)

      Mizarabel - Mickey's Castle of Illusions (long shot)

      Queen Narissa - Enchanted (long shot)

      Madam Mim (Maybe)

      Wish Realm Evil Queen (very likely)

      Alternate Maleficent (maybe)

      Lead Sanderson sister - Hocus Pocus (long shot)

      Morgana Le Fay - (long shot) She would be a leader of witches more than Gothal any day.

      Lead of the three witches -The Black Cauldron, Chronicles of Prydain (long shot)

      One of the sorceress antagonists - Aladdin animated series (long shot)

      Jafar's sister - Old Disney Aladdin video game (long shot)

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    • Justbenn wrote:
      I'd say.

      Gothel

      Madame Leoda

      Madame Mim

      Baba Yaga

      Morgan Le Fey

      Esmerelda

      Dr. Facilier (due to possible compromise possibly involving Ana)

      Didn't they say the witches are all women? Btw, look, another Sonic fan, like me! Way past cool!

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    • StargateFanBB wrote:
      Here's some I think have a chance of showing up:

      Yzma (long shot)

      Mizarabel - Mickey's Castle of Illusions (long shot)

      Queen Narissa - Enchanted (long shot)

      Madam Mim (Maybe)

      Wish Realm Evil Queen (very likely)

      Alternate Maleficent (maybe)

      Lead Sanderson sister - Hocus Pocus (long shot)

      Morgana Le Fay - (long shot) She would be a leader of witches more than Gothal any day.

      Lead of the three witches -The Black Cauldron, Chronicles of Prydain (long shot)

      One of the sorceress antagonists - Aladdin animated series (long shot)

      Jafar's sister - Old Disney Aladdin video game (long shot)

      I doubt they'll do Disney characters from video games.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      Justbenn wrote:
      I'd say.

      Gothel

      Madame Leoda

      Madame Mim

      Baba Yaga

      Morgan Le Fey

      Esmerelda

      Dr. Facilier (due to possible compromise possibly involving Ana)

      Didn't they say the witches are all women? Btw, look, another Sonic fan, like me! Way past cool!

      She did say they are all women, but I don't believe Anastasia will go through with the Coven's plans, I bet once they have all of the members, Ana will abandon them causing their plans to fail, and Dr. Facilier, a.k.a. Samdi, will help them out by taking her place, and Gothel will have no choice but to compromise. Also, yes I love Sonic games too, my favorite belive it or not is one of the worst games in Sonic's history.

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    • KillianWeasley wrote:
      StargateFanBB wrote:
      Here's some I think have a chance of showing up:

      Yzma (long shot)

      Mizarabel - Mickey's Castle of Illusions (long shot)

      Queen Narissa - Enchanted (long shot)

      Madam Mim (Maybe)

      Wish Realm Evil Queen (very likely)

      Alternate Maleficent (maybe)

      Lead Sanderson sister - Hocus Pocus (long shot)

      Morgana Le Fay - (long shot) She would be a leader of witches more than Gothal any day.

      Lead of the three witches -The Black Cauldron, Chronicles of Prydain (long shot)

      One of the sorceress antagonists - Aladdin animated series (long shot)

      Jafar's sister - Old Disney Aladdin video game (long shot)

      I doubt they'll do Disney characters from video games.

      Yeah I know. Like I said, long shot. The only one I think will definitely appear is hte Wish Realm Evil Queen.

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    • StargateFanBB wrote:
      KillianWeasley wrote:
      StargateFanBB wrote:
      Here's some I think have a chance of showing up:

      Yzma (long shot)

      Mizarabel - Mickey's Castle of Illusions (long shot)

      Queen Narissa - Enchanted (long shot)

      Madam Mim (Maybe)

      Wish Realm Evil Queen (very likely)

      Alternate Maleficent (maybe)

      Lead Sanderson sister - Hocus Pocus (long shot)

      Morgana Le Fay - (long shot) She would be a leader of witches more than Gothal any day.

      Lead of the three witches -The Black Cauldron, Chronicles of Prydain (long shot)

      One of the sorceress antagonists - Aladdin animated series (long shot)

      Jafar's sister - Old Disney Aladdin video game (long shot)

      I doubt they'll do Disney characters from video games.
      Yeah I know. Like I said, long shot. The only one I think will definitely appear is hte Wish Realm Evil Queen.

      I hope we don't see her again, because we already played with an alternate Evil Queen, but yeah it's possible, since we saw her this season, and plus, she was banished somewhere. Still hoping for that NEF!Maleficent.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      StargateFanBB wrote:
      KillianWeasley wrote:
      StargateFanBB wrote:
      Here's some I think have a chance of showing up:

      Yzma (long shot)

      Mizarabel - Mickey's Castle of Illusions (long shot)

      Queen Narissa - Enchanted (long shot)

      Madam Mim (Maybe)

      Wish Realm Evil Queen (very likely)

      Alternate Maleficent (maybe)

      Lead Sanderson sister - Hocus Pocus (long shot)

      Morgana Le Fay - (long shot) She would be a leader of witches more than Gothal any day.

      Lead of the three witches -The Black Cauldron, Chronicles of Prydain (long shot)

      One of the sorceress antagonists - Aladdin animated series (long shot)

      Jafar's sister - Old Disney Aladdin video game (long shot)

      I doubt they'll do Disney characters from video games.
      Yeah I know. Like I said, long shot. The only one I think will definitely appear is hte Wish Realm Evil Queen.
      I hope we don't see her again, because we already played with an alternate Evil Queen, but yeah it's possible, since we saw her this season, and plus, she was banished somewhere. Still hoping for that NEF!Maleficent.

      I'm 99% certain WREQ will show up as a member. Don't know if we'll get a new Maleficent. She's another who should be leading such a group rather then taking others from others.

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    • StargateFanBB wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      StargateFanBB wrote:
      KillianWeasley wrote:
      StargateFanBB wrote:
      Here's some I think have a chance of showing up:

      Yzma (long shot)

      Mizarabel - Mickey's Castle of Illusions (long shot)

      Queen Narissa - Enchanted (long shot)

      Madam Mim (Maybe)

      Wish Realm Evil Queen (very likely)

      Alternate Maleficent (maybe)

      Lead Sanderson sister - Hocus Pocus (long shot)

      Morgana Le Fay - (long shot) She would be a leader of witches more than Gothal any day.

      Lead of the three witches -The Black Cauldron, Chronicles of Prydain (long shot)

      One of the sorceress antagonists - Aladdin animated series (long shot)

      Jafar's sister - Old Disney Aladdin video game (long shot)

      I doubt they'll do Disney characters from video games.
      Yeah I know. Like I said, long shot. The only one I think will definitely appear is hte Wish Realm Evil Queen.
      I hope we don't see her again, because we already played with an alternate Evil Queen, but yeah it's possible, since we saw her this season, and plus, she was banished somewhere. Still hoping for that NEF!Maleficent.

      I'm 99% certain WREQ will show up as a member. Don't know if we'll get a new Maleficent. She's another who should be leading such a group rather then taking others from others.

      Taking others? You mean taking orders from others.

      If the Wish realm Evil Queen ever returns, I can honestly see our Snowing involved. And since she was banished by their counterparts and removed her magic, she might want revenge if she wished to come back. But since Wish Snowing were murdered by our Regina, WEQ might as well get her unfair revenge on our Snowing for that; even they had nothing to do with this. It would be similar to Wish Rumple who unfairly puts the blame on Regina for the death of Wish belle, cause she was the closet thing t Wish Evil Queen.

      And speaking of Wish Snowing murdered, the showrunners still left a plot where Wish Henry still wants revenge and justice for their murder and is still hunting down our Regina to kill her. Of course possibly our Snowing could be part of this plot, and quite possibly they both would be the closet thing Henry would have to his original grandparents.

      Okay, I might have gone off topic, but all I am mainly trying to say is, if the Wish EQ is a member of the Coven, her reason is probably to get revenge on Snowing.

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:

      StargateFanBB wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      StargateFanBB wrote:
      KillianWeasley wrote:
      StargateFanBB wrote:
      Here's some I think have a chance of showing up:

      Yzma (long shot)

      Mizarabel - Mickey's Castle of Illusions (long shot)

      Queen Narissa - Enchanted (long shot)

      Madam Mim (Maybe)

      Wish Realm Evil Queen (very likely)

      Alternate Maleficent (maybe)

      Lead Sanderson sister - Hocus Pocus (long shot)

      Morgana Le Fay - (long shot) She would be a leader of witches more than Gothal any day.

      Lead of the three witches -The Black Cauldron, Chronicles of Prydain (long shot)

      One of the sorceress antagonists - Aladdin animated series (long shot)

      Jafar's sister - Old Disney Aladdin video game (long shot)

      I doubt they'll do Disney characters from video games.
      Yeah I know. Like I said, long shot. The only one I think will definitely appear is hte Wish Realm Evil Queen.
      I hope we don't see her again, because we already played with an alternate Evil Queen, but yeah it's possible, since we saw her this season, and plus, she was banished somewhere. Still hoping for that NEF!Maleficent.
      I'm 99% certain WREQ will show up as a member. Don't know if we'll get a new Maleficent. She's another who should be leading such a group rather then taking others from others.
      Taking others? You mean taking orders from others.

      If the Wish realm Evil Queen ever returns, I can honestly see our Snowing involved. And since she was banished by their counterparts and removed her magic, she might want revenge if she wished to come back. But since Wish Snowing were murdered by our Regina, WEQ might as well get her unfair revenge on our Snowing for that; even they had nothing to do with this. It would be similar to Wish Rumple who unfairly puts the blame on Regina for the death of Wish belle, cause she was the closet thing t Wish Evil Queen.

      And speaking of Wish Snowing murdered, the showrunners still left a plot where Wish Henry still wants revenge and justice for their murder and is still hunting down our Regina to kill her. Of course possibly our Snowing could be part of this plot, and quite possibly they both would be the closet thing Henry would have to his original grandparents.

      Okay, I might have gone off topic, but all I am mainly trying to say is, if the Wish EQ is a member of the Coven, her reason is probably to get revenge on Snowing.

      I don't Snowing will return for a prolonged arc in the show as I think Ginny and Josh are done with the show. If WEQ does return I could see getting revenge on real Snowing as her motivation or getting it on real Regina but I doubt she'd get to the point of even getting out of HH and be killed off either by the heroes or Gothal herself or Dr. Facilier for some reason. I don't think WRH will return unless they get a season 8. I reckon that'll be one of those plot threads that they don't pick up again or forget about like Lily's father or they don't come back to it till many seasons after it's introduced.


      Some of the stuff like Issac's fanfic EF and the WREF cpuld have taken up an entire season all by themselves but the writers ended them within a few episodes mostly.

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    • StargateFanBB wrote:

      I don't Snowing will return for a prolonged arc in the show as I think Ginny and Josh are done with the show. Actually that's not so. This link of an interview with Ginny revealed that and Josh plan and want to come back on the show soon. http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/14/once-upon-time-ginnifer-goodwin-exit-interview/?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter W'hich proves they are not done with the show. Only Jennifer Morrison appears to be done with the show so far.

      If WEQ does return I could see getting revenge on real Snowing as her motivation or getting it on real Regina but I doubt she'd get to the point of even getting out of HH and be killed off either by the heroes or Gothal herself or Dr. Facilier for some reason. I don't think WRH will return unless they get a season 8. I reckon that'll be one of those plot threads that they don't pick up again or forget about like Lily's father or they don't come back to it till many seasons after it's introduced. How can WEQ get it on Real Regina? They never even met. Unless you are saying she might frame her to get revenge on Snowing? And for the record, I didn't actually say that WRH would return this season. I am just saying that we are still left with his story hanging like others such as Lily's father, Dragon and his duaghter, the continueing feud between Dorothy and Zelena, the feud betweeen Briar Rose and Maleficent, the continuing feud between Aurora/Phillip and Maleficent, Lancelot, Cruella's motivation of wanting to return to the living, other untold stories, Red and Dorothy's love Story, Mulan, origin of Charming and Kristoff's friendship, the origin of Bandit Snow White (like how she got her clothes, swrod playing and spear throwing), etc. And I agree that the WRH seems now on the list.

      Sorry to sound so off topic. But anyway, about the unidentified witches, I can't wait to see who they really are. We got:

      Gothel (currently)

      Anasatia (currently)

      Now who are the other six? Drizella: Not anymore.


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    • TIAB1234 wrote:
      StargateFanBB wrote:

      I don't Snowing will return for a prolonged arc in the show as I think Ginny and Josh are done with the show. Actually that's not so. This link of an interview with Ginny revealed that and Josh plan and want to come back on the show soon. http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/14/once-upon-time-ginnifer-goodwin-exit-interview/?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter W'hich proves they are not done with the show. Only Jennifer Morrison appears to be done with the show so far.

      If WEQ does return I could see getting revenge on real Snowing as her motivation or getting it on real Regina but I doubt she'd get to the point of even getting out of HH and be killed off either by the heroes or Gothal herself or Dr. Facilier for some reason. I don't think WRH will return unless they get a season 8. I reckon that'll be one of those plot threads that they don't pick up again or forget about like Lily's father or they don't come back to it till many seasons after it's introduced. How can WEQ get it on Real Regina? They never even met. Unless you are saying she might frame her to get revenge on Snowing? And for the record, I didn't actually say that WRH would return this season. I am just saying that we are still left with his story hanging like others such as Lily's father, Dragon and his duaghter, the continueing feud between Dorothy and Zelena, the feud betweeen Briar Rose and Maleficent, the continuing feud between Aurora/Phillip and Maleficent, Lancelot, Cruella's motivation of wanting to return to the living, other untold stories, Red and Dorothy's love Story, Mulan, origin of Charming and Kristoff's friendship, the origin of Bandit Snow White (like how she got her clothes, swrod playing and spear throwing), etc. And I agree that the WRH seems now on the list.

      Sorry to sound so off topic. But anyway, about the unidentified witches, I can't wait to see who they really are. We got:

      Gothel (currently)

      Anasatia (currently)

      Now who are the other six? Drizella: Not anymore.


      I know you didn't say QREQ would return. I think she will. Also why would she wnat revenge on Regina. Real Regina kill WR Snowing. Maybe she found out somehow and having been denied her revenge she seeks to kill the one who killed them. As for the other stories, Dorothy and Zelena are done, Zelena's in LWM with her daughter and fiance and is now back with Regina, she has no reaosn to fued with Dorothy anymore, Dorothy is with Red and Oz is free from Zelena. No further story needed there.

      Maleficent is with Lily in SB and Aurora/Philip are with thier kid in EF presumably back with Stefan and Briar Rose. Mal has no reason to contimure fued with them so that story is done. Lily's father is still hanging as is the Dragon's history and his daughter. Mulan is... somewhere. Lancelot is with Gwenuivere in Camelot. Cruella wanted ot return to the living realm for the same reason as everyone else wanted to (such as the Dark Ones and Pan). The Underworld was bloody awful to live in while Hades was running the place and she wants to kill Isaac still no doubt.


      Others are too minor to be worth telling, like Charming/Kristoff friendship, Bandot Snow clothes, swordfighting etc(which I think was answered, she learnt from Red probably and got her clothes from her).

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      reply to #220 StargateFanBB wrote:
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      TIAB1234 removed this reply because:
      cause some plots are important, doesn't mean they have to be not minor. Others are too minor to be worth telling, like Charming/Kristoff friendship, Bandot Snow clothes, swordfighting etc(which I think was answered, she learnt from Red probably and got her clothes from her).
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    • StargateFanBB wrote:

      TIAB1234 wrote:
      StargateFanBB wrote:

      I don't Snowing will return for a prolonged arc in the show as I think Ginny and Josh are done with the show. Actually that's not so. This link of an interview with Ginny revealed that and Josh plan and want to come back on the show soon. http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/14/once-upon-time-ginnifer-goodwin-exit-interview/?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter W'hich proves they are not done with the show. Only Jennifer Morrison appears to be done with the show so far.

      If WEQ does return I could see getting revenge on real Snowing as her motivation or getting it on real Regina but I doubt she'd get to the point of even getting out of HH and be killed off either by the heroes or Gothal herself or Dr. Facilier for some reason. I don't think WRH will return unless they get a season 8. I reckon that'll be one of those plot threads that they don't pick up again or forget about like Lily's father or they don't come back to it till many seasons after it's introduced. How can WEQ get it on Real Regina? They never even met. Unless you are saying she might frame her to get revenge on Snowing? And for the record, I didn't actually say that WRH would return this season. I am just saying that we are still left with his story hanging like others such as Lily's father, Dragon and his duaghter, the continueing feud between Dorothy and Zelena, the feud betweeen Briar Rose and Maleficent, the continuing feud between Aurora/Phillip and Maleficent, Lancelot, Cruella's motivation of wanting to return to the living, other untold stories, Red and Dorothy's love Story, Mulan, origin of Charming and Kristoff's friendship, the origin of Bandit Snow White (like how she got her clothes, swrod playing and spear throwing), etc. And I agree that the WRH seems now on the list.

      Sorry to sound so off topic. But anyway, about the unidentified witches, I can't wait to see who they really are. We got:

      Gothel (currently)

      Anasatia (currently)

      Now who are the other six? Drizella: Not anymore.


      I know you didn't say QREQ would return. I think she will. Also why would she wnat revenge on Regina. Real Regina kill WR Snowing. Maybe she found out somehow and having been denied her revenge she seeks to kill the one who killed them. As for the other stories, Dorothy and Zelena are done, Zelena's in LWM with her daughter and fiance and is now back with Regina, she has no reaosn to fued with Dorothy anymore, Dorothy is with Red and Oz is free from Zelena. No further story needed there.

      Maleficent is with Lily in SB and Aurora/Philip are with thier kid in EF presumably back with Stefan and Briar Rose. Mal has no reason to contimure fued with them so that story is done. Lily's father is still hanging as is the Dragon's history and his daughter. Mulan is... somewhere. Lancelot is with Gwenuivere in Camelot. Cruella wanted ot return to the living realm for the same reason as everyone else wanted to (such as the Dark Ones and Pan). The Underworld was bloody awful to live in while Hades was running the place and she wants to kill Isaac still no doubt.


      Others are too minor to be worth telling, like Charming/Kristoff friendship, Bandot Snow clothes, swordfighting etc(which I think was answered, she learnt from Red probably and got her clothes from her).

      I know you didn't say QREQ would return. I think she will. - I was talking about Wish Henry who I was mentioning in saying I didn't say he would return this season.

      Also why would she wnat revenge on Regina. - I didn't say she wanted revenge on Regina. You said something like "getting it on real Regina". Which was where the confusion has been.

      Maybe she found out somehow and having been denied her revenge she seeks to kill the one who killed them. - Possibly.

      Dorothy and Zelena are done, Zelena's in LWM with her daughter and fiance and is now back with Regina, she has no reaosn to fued with Dorothy anymore, Dorothy is with Red and Oz is free from Zelena. No further story needed there. - Only to you it is done. But it is not clarified. Dorothy may be with Red, but that does not mean they are still in Oz, nor is she truly free from Zelena. Remember, Zelena is still left hating the Kansas girl, and Dorothy can return in someway along with Red or others. There can so be further stories needed anytime.

      Aurora/Philip are with thier kid in EF presumably back with Stefan and Briar Rose. - That is not what happened. Aurora/Philip and their kid were never back in the EF. In case you forgot, they were seen and heard still being in Storybrooke in 4A and 5A.

      Mal has no reason to contimure fued with them so that story is done. - only done to you. But it's not clarified. That feud is so still left hanging.

      Mulan is... somewhere. - And yet there are many ways for her to return.

      Lancelot is with Gwenuivere in Camelot. - No, they are not. Yes they are both back in the EF, but they are not together. And Gwen and Camelot is still left seen under the spell of Avalon sand.

      Others are too minor to be worth telling, like Charming/Kristoff friendship, Bandot Snow clothes, swordfighting etc(which I think was answered, she learnt from Red probably and got her clothes from her). - It was not answered that she got her bandit suit and swordfighting from Red, only her tracking skills were taught from Red so far. And It doesn't matter if they are minor. They are so worth telling. Parts of Emma's origin like how she got her last name, tattoo, car and jacket were all minor. But they were all worth telling anyhow. And also Snow's archery, taught by Hercules, might be minor to others, and yet it was worth telling. Size doesn't even matter. Just cause some plots are important, doesn't mean they have to be not minor.

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:

      StargateFanBB wrote:

      TIAB1234 wrote:
      StargateFanBB wrote:

      I don't Snowing will return for a prolonged arc in the show as I think Ginny and Josh are done with the show. Actually that's not so. This link of an interview with Ginny revealed that and Josh plan and want to come back on the show soon. http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/14/once-upon-time-ginnifer-goodwin-exit-interview/?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter W'hich proves they are not done with the show. Only Jennifer Morrison appears to be done with the show so far.

      If WEQ does return I could see getting revenge on real Snowing as her motivation or getting it on real Regina but I doubt she'd get to the point of even getting out of HH and be killed off either by the heroes or Gothal herself or Dr. Facilier for some reason. I don't think WRH will return unless they get a season 8. I reckon that'll be one of those plot threads that they don't pick up again or forget about like Lily's father or they don't come back to it till many seasons after it's introduced. How can WEQ get it on Real Regina? They never even met. Unless you are saying she might frame her to get revenge on Snowing? And for the record, I didn't actually say that WRH would return this season. I am just saying that we are still left with his story hanging like others such as Lily's father, Dragon and his duaghter, the continueing feud between Dorothy and Zelena, the feud betweeen Briar Rose and Maleficent, the continuing feud between Aurora/Phillip and Maleficent, Lancelot, Cruella's motivation of wanting to return to the living, other untold stories, Red and Dorothy's love Story, Mulan, origin of Charming and Kristoff's friendship, the origin of Bandit Snow White (like how she got her clothes, swrod playing and spear throwing), etc. And I agree that the WRH seems now on the list.

      Sorry to sound so off topic. But anyway, about the unidentified witches, I can't wait to see who they really are. We got:

      Gothel (currently)

      Anasatia (currently)

      Now who are the other six? Drizella: Not anymore.


      I know you didn't say QREQ would return. I think she will. Also why would she wnat revenge on Regina. Real Regina kill WR Snowing. Maybe she found out somehow and having been denied her revenge she seeks to kill the one who killed them. As for the other stories, Dorothy and Zelena are done, Zelena's in LWM with her daughter and fiance and is now back with Regina, she has no reaosn to fued with Dorothy anymore, Dorothy is with Red and Oz is free from Zelena. No further story needed there.

      Maleficent is with Lily in SB and Aurora/Philip are with thier kid in EF presumably back with Stefan and Briar Rose. Mal has no reason to contimure fued with them so that story is done. Lily's father is still hanging as is the Dragon's history and his daughter. Mulan is... somewhere. Lancelot is with Gwenuivere in Camelot. Cruella wanted ot return to the living realm for the same reason as everyone else wanted to (such as the Dark Ones and Pan). The Underworld was bloody awful to live in while Hades was running the place and she wants to kill Isaac still no doubt.


      Others are too minor to be worth telling, like Charming/Kristoff friendship, Bandot Snow clothes, swordfighting etc(which I think was answered, she learnt from Red probably and got her clothes from her).

      I know you didn't say QREQ would return. I think she will. - I was talking about Wish Henry who I was mentioning in saying I didn't say he would return this season.

      Also why would she wnat revenge on Regina. - I didn't say she wanted revenge on Regina. You said something like "getting it on real Regina". Which was where the confusion has been.

      Maybe she found out somehow and having been denied her revenge she seeks to kill the one who killed them. - Possibly.

      Dorothy and Zelena are done, Zelena's in LWM with her daughter and fiance and is now back with Regina, she has no reaosn to fued with Dorothy anymore, Dorothy is with Red and Oz is free from Zelena. No further story needed there. - Only to you it is done. But it is not clarified. Dorothy may be with Red, but that does not mean they are still in Oz, nor is she truly free from Zelena. Remember, Zelena is still left hating the Kansas girl, and Dorothy can return in someway along with Red or others. There can so be further stories needed anytime.

      Aurora/Philip are with thier kid in EF presumably back with Stefan and Briar Rose. - That is not what happened. Aurora/Philip and their kid were never back in the EF. In case you forgot, they were seen and heard still being in Storybrooke in 4A and 5A.

      Mal has no reason to contimure fued with them so that story is done. - only done to you. But it's not clarified. That feud is so still left hanging.

      Mulan is... somewhere. - And yet there are many ways for her to return.

      Lancelot is with Gwenuivere in Camelot. - No, they are not. Yes they are both back in the EF, but they are not together. And Gwen and Camelot is still left seen under the spell of Avalon sand.

      Others are too minor to be worth telling, like Charming/Kristoff friendship, Bandot Snow clothes, swordfighting etc(which I think was answered, she learnt from Red probably and got her clothes from her). - It was not answered that she got her bandit suit and swordfighting from Red, only her tracking skills were taught from Red so far. And It doesn't matter if they are minor. They are so worth telling. Parts of Emma's origin like how she got her last name, tattoo, car and jacket were all minor. But they were all worth telling anyhow. And also Snow's archery, taught by Hercules, might be minor to others, and yet it was worth telling. Size doesn't even matter. Just cause some plots are important, doesn't mean they have to be not minor.

      I think the point they are making is not every plot point is going to get resolved with a neat little bow. We can see any of the stuff mentioned (Zelena and Dorothy, Aurora and Phillip, Mal and Lily, Mulan, Lance and Gwen, etc.), but most of it would not be relevant to the current plot that is happening with Henry, Ella, Gothel, WHook, Alice, etc., so the chance of seeing it is fairly low. Also, just because we didn't see something, doesn't mean it didn't happen. We don't know the status of Lance and Gwen, for example, but the logical conclusion to that story is that they wound up together and took over ruling Camelot. We don't have confirmation, but obviously things had to happen to Lance and Gwen after the last time we saw them. Again, not saying we never find out how that story ends from the writers in some way (be it by the tv show or other means like a comic), but right now that is not where the writers focus is.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      TIAB1234 wrote:

      StargateFanBB wrote:


      TIAB1234 wrote:
      StargateFanBB wrote:

      I don't Snowing will return for a prolonged arc in the show as I think Ginny and Josh are done with the show. Actually that's not so. This link of an interview with Ginny revealed that and Josh plan and want to come back on the show soon. http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/14/once-upon-time-ginnifer-goodwin-exit-interview/?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter W'hich proves they are not done with the show. Only Jennifer Morrison appears to be done with the show so far.

      If WEQ does return I could see getting revenge on real Snowing as her motivation or getting it on real Regina but I doubt she'd get to the point of even getting out of HH and be killed off either by the heroes or Gothal herself or Dr. Facilier for some reason. I don't think WRH will return unless they get a season 8. I reckon that'll be one of those plot threads that they don't pick up again or forget about like Lily's father or they don't come back to it till many seasons after it's introduced. How can WEQ get it on Real Regina? They never even met. Unless you are saying she might frame her to get revenge on Snowing? And for the record, I didn't actually say that WRH would return this season. I am just saying that we are still left with his story hanging like others such as Lily's father, Dragon and his duaghter, the continueing feud between Dorothy and Zelena, the feud betweeen Briar Rose and Maleficent, the continuing feud between Aurora/Phillip and Maleficent, Lancelot, Cruella's motivation of wanting to return to the living, other untold stories, Red and Dorothy's love Story, Mulan, origin of Charming and Kristoff's friendship, the origin of Bandit Snow White (like how she got her clothes, swrod playing and spear throwing), etc. And I agree that the WRH seems now on the list.

      Sorry to sound so off topic. But anyway, about the unidentified witches, I can't wait to see who they really are. We got:

      Gothel (currently)

      Anasatia (currently)

      Now who are the other six? Drizella: Not anymore.


      I know you didn't say QREQ would return. I think she will. Also why would she wnat revenge on Regina. Real Regina kill WR Snowing. Maybe she found out somehow and having been denied her revenge she seeks to kill the one who killed them. As for the other stories, Dorothy and Zelena are done, Zelena's in LWM with her daughter and fiance and is now back with Regina, she has no reaosn to fued with Dorothy anymore, Dorothy is with Red and Oz is free from Zelena. No further story needed there.

      Maleficent is with Lily in SB and Aurora/Philip are with thier kid in EF presumably back with Stefan and Briar Rose. Mal has no reason to contimure fued with them so that story is done. Lily's father is still hanging as is the Dragon's history and his daughter. Mulan is... somewhere. Lancelot is with Gwenuivere in Camelot. Cruella wanted ot return to the living realm for the same reason as everyone else wanted to (such as the Dark Ones and Pan). The Underworld was bloody awful to live in while Hades was running the place and she wants to kill Isaac still no doubt.


      Others are too minor to be worth telling, like Charming/Kristoff friendship, Bandot Snow clothes, swordfighting etc(which I think was answered, she learnt from Red probably and got her clothes from her).

      I know you didn't say QREQ would return. I think she will. - I was talking about Wish Henry who I was mentioning in saying I didn't say he would return this season.

      Also why would she wnat revenge on Regina. - I didn't say she wanted revenge on Regina. You said something like "getting it on real Regina". Which was where the confusion has been.

      Maybe she found out somehow and having been denied her revenge she seeks to kill the one who killed them. - Possibly.

      Dorothy and Zelena are done, Zelena's in LWM with her daughter and fiance and is now back with Regina, she has no reaosn to fued with Dorothy anymore, Dorothy is with Red and Oz is free from Zelena. No further story needed there. - Only to you it is done. But it is not clarified. Dorothy may be with Red, but that does not mean they are still in Oz, nor is she truly free from Zelena. Remember, Zelena is still left hating the Kansas girl, and Dorothy can return in someway along with Red or others. There can so be further stories needed anytime.

      Aurora/Philip are with thier kid in EF presumably back with Stefan and Briar Rose. - That is not what happened. Aurora/Philip and their kid were never back in the EF. In case you forgot, they were seen and heard still being in Storybrooke in 4A and 5A.

      Mal has no reason to contimure fued with them so that story is done. - only done to you. But it's not clarified. That feud is so still left hanging.

      Mulan is... somewhere. - And yet there are many ways for her to return.

      Lancelot is with Gwenuivere in Camelot. - No, they are not. Yes they are both back in the EF, but they are not together. And Gwen and Camelot is still left seen under the spell of Avalon sand.

      Others are too minor to be worth telling, like Charming/Kristoff friendship, Bandot Snow clothes, swordfighting etc(which I think was answered, she learnt from Red probably and got her clothes from her). - It was not answered that she got her bandit suit and swordfighting from Red, only her tracking skills were taught from Red so far. And It doesn't matter if they are minor. They are so worth telling. Parts of Emma's origin like how she got her last name, tattoo, car and jacket were all minor. But they were all worth telling anyhow. And also Snow's archery, taught by Hercules, might be minor to others, and yet it was worth telling. Size doesn't even matter. Just cause some plots are important, doesn't mean they have to be not minor.

      I think the point they are making is not every plot point is going to get resolved with a neat little bow. We can see any of the stuff mentioned (Zelena and Dorothy, Aurora and Phillip, Mal and Lily, Mulan, Lance and Gwen, etc.), but most of it would not be relevant to the current plot that is happening with Henry, Ella, Gothel, WHook, Alice, etc., so the chance of seeing it is fairly low. Also, just because we didn't see something, doesn't mean it didn't happen. We don't know the status of Lance and Gwen, for example, but the logical conclusion to that story is that they wound up together and took over ruling Camelot. We don't have confirmation, but obviously things had to happen to Lance and Gwen after the last time we saw them. Again, not saying we never find out how that story ends from the writers in some way (be it by the tv show or other means like a comic), but right now that is not where the writers focus is.

      Yeah this is what I meant. I didn't explain properly. These stories are the focus of the plot right now so they're not answered but we can make logical guesses and assumptions as to their resolutions until the writers bring them up again.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:

      I think the point they are making is not every plot point is going to get resolved with a neat little bow. We can see any of the stuff mentioned (Zelena and Dorothy, Aurora and Phillip, Mal and Lily, Mulan, Lance and Gwen, etc.), but most of it would not be relevant to the current plot that is happening with Henry, Ella, Gothel, WHook, Alice, etc., so the chance of seeing it is fairly low. - Which I never said these plots would be relevant for the current plot. And I didn't say these plots can appear this season. I was trying to say that quite possibly some of them can be resolved in some future season or another, including the Wish Henry plot.

      Also, just because we didn't see something, doesn't mean it didn't happen. - Which also means we should not tell false info that we don't know, like just saying something is done when it is not truly official.

      We don't know the status of Lance and Gwen, for example, but the logical conclusion to that story is that they wound up together and took over ruling Camelot. We don't have confirmation, but obviously things had to happen to Lance and Gwen after the last time we saw them. Again, not saying we never find out how that story ends from the writers in some way (be it by the tv show or other means like a comic), but right now that is not where the writers focus is. - Which is somehow what I was trying to say. Even though it might not sound like it was explained properly.
      If this is all we have to say to understand each, I guess problem solved.
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    • StargateFanBB wrote:

      Yeah this is what I meant. I didn't explain properly. - As was I, though I had trouble trying to explain it properly too.

      These stories are the focus of the plot right now - Um don't you mean not the focus of the plot? Cause I already knew that. Which is why I was tring to say that some of the plots such as wish Henry could appear in another season than the current one.

      so they're not answered but we can make logical guesses and assumptions as to their resolutions until the writers bring them up again. - That I get and accept.

      If this is all we have to say to understand each, I guess problem solved.

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    • TIAB1234 wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote:

      I think the point they are making is not every plot point is going to get resolved with a neat little bow. We can see any of the stuff mentioned (Zelena and Dorothy, Aurora and Phillip, Mal and Lily, Mulan, Lance and Gwen, etc.), but most of it would not be relevant to the current plot that is happening with Henry, Ella, Gothel, WHook, Alice, etc., so the chance of seeing it is fairly low. - Which I never said these plots would be relevant for the current plot. And I didn't say these plots can appear this season. I was trying to say that quite possibly some of them can be resolved in some future season or another, including the Wish Henry plot.

      Also, just because we didn't see something, doesn't mean it didn't happen. - Which also means we should not tell false info that we don't know, like just saying something is done when it is not truly official.

      We don't know the status of Lance and Gwen, for example, but the logical conclusion to that story is that they wound up together and took over ruling Camelot. We don't have confirmation, but obviously things had to happen to Lance and Gwen after the last time we saw them. Again, not saying we never find out how that story ends from the writers in some way (be it by the tv show or other means like a comic), but right now that is not where the writers focus is. - Which is somehow what I was trying to say. Even though it might not sound like it was explained properly.

      If this is all we have to say to understand each, I guess problem solved.


      Yep, we are good. Back to coven witch speculation.

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    • 1. Gothel

      2. Anastasia

      3. Leota

      4. Evil Queen (Wish Realm)

      5. Yzma

      6. Gretel

      7. Goldilocks

      8. Mama Odie

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    • I love Lana and the character of the Evil Queen, but I really hope they won't use the WR version for the Coven. They've already used the EQ story last season plus I don't wanna hear the words "Wish Realm" again, it has already complicated the timeline enough XD 

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    • AlbOuat wrote: I love Lana and the character of the Evil Queen, but I really hope they won't use the WR version for the Coven. They've already used the EQ story last season plus I don't wanna hear the words "Wish Realm" again, it has already complicated the timeline enough XD 

      Exactly how I feel. I’ve had enough of the Evil Queen.

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    • StargateFanBB wrote:
      KillianWeasley wrote:
      StargateFanBB wrote:
      Here's some I think have a chance of showing up:

      Yzma (long shot)

      Mizarabel - Mickey's Castle of Illusions (long shot)

      Queen Narissa - Enchanted (long shot)

      Madam Mim (Maybe)

      Wish Realm Evil Queen (very likely)

      Alternate Maleficent (maybe)

      Lead Sanderson sister - Hocus Pocus (long shot)

      Morgana Le Fay - (long shot) She would be a leader of witches more than Gothal any day.

      Lead of the three witches -The Black Cauldron, Chronicles of Prydain (long shot)

      One of the sorceress antagonists - Aladdin animated series (long shot)

      Jafar's sister - Old Disney Aladdin video game (long shot)

      I doubt they'll do Disney characters from video games.
      Yeah I know. Like I said, long shot. The only one I think will definitely appear is hte Wish Realm Evil Queen.

      Oh, whoops. Lol, I didn't see that.

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    • AlbOuat wrote:
      I love Lana and the character of the Evil Queen, but I really hope they won't use the WR version for the Coven. They've already used the EQ story last season plus I don't wanna hear the words "Wish Realm" again, it has already complicated the timeline enough XD 

      Same. They've used too many iterations of characters (Serum Queen, Wish Henry, Wish Snow/ Charming, a new Cinderella ... etc ...). The only exception for me is Wish Hook because I like his relationship with Alice.

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    • Now that we know 100% that this is the final season, are there any new guesses to who the witches are???

      ... after looking at the first guess, I think it would be kind of silly to introduce 8 new faces with so little time to really delve into them (2-3 new faces would make the most sense to me).  Not to mention, this could be the answer to the hint of seeing faces from the first 6 seasons.

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    • Suburbanprincess wrote: Now that we know 100% that this is the final season, are there any new guesses to who the witches are???

      ... after looking at the first guess, I think it would be kind of silly to introduce 8 new faces with so little time to really delve into them (2-3 new faces would make the most sense to me).  Not to mention, this could be the answer to the hint of seeing faces from the first 6 seasons.

      Exactly! I think that one of them may be Ursula the goddess.

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    • I bet the witches may be:

      -Gothel

      -Ivy

      -Ana

      -Leota, it's pretty obvious.

      -Mama Odie, they have to add Tiana somehow to the story, she's not doing anything

      -The Duchess from Alice in Wonderland, being the Duchess and also a new iteration of the Queen of Hearts or the Red Queen, explaining why Wonderland is how it is.

      -Baba Yaga

      -Blind Witch from Hansel and Gretel, considering the theory that Gothel is Gretel. She may appear, but I remember Eddy and Adam confirmed that the witches aren't new iterations. We have the witch from 1x09.

      -Mombi, I made a theory about Mombi: she was Zelena's enemy in Oz, and after the flashbacks of 6x18,  Zelena defeated her by forcing her to give her magic to the Crimson Heart (in the original story Glinda forced Mombi to drink a potion to take her magic)

      -Alice? Same as Blind Witch.

      -Jadis from Narnia. I don't think so, I don't know if they have the rights to include Narnia, and I don't think it's a classic yet.  I'd say the chance is 8%

      -Goldilocks?

      -Tia Dalma. For the same reason as Jadis, but this one is 0,1%.

      -Facilier. The coven is only WITCHES, not WITCHES AND WIZARDS, either, I don't believe Facilier is a wizard, I believe he's a practicer of voodoo magic.

      -Queen Narissa. Well, Queen Narissa is the Evil Queen and Maleficent, and the witches arent new iterations.

      -Morgan le Fay. Very likely, she was about to appear in Season 5.

      -Yzma. I LOVE YZMA, I NEED HER ON THE SHOW!

      -Madame Mim. 

      -The Enchantress from the Beauty and the Beast. Zelena is an allusion to her.

      -Hecate, Medea, Circe, Calyso, maybe, it'd be cool. They're all from greek mythology.

      -Sanderson Sisters, more likely one.

      QUESTION: Are they allowed to make Narnia and Pirates of the Caribbean?

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    • Truest Believer wrote: I bet the witches may be:

      -Gothel

      -Ivy

      -Ana

      -Leota, it's pretty obvious.

      -Mama Odie, they have to add Tiana somehow to the story, she's not doing anything

      -The Duchess from Alice in Wonderland, being the Duchess and also a new iteration of the Queen of Hearts or the Red Queen, explaining why Wonderland is how it is.

      -Baba Yaga

      -Blind Witch from Hansel and Gretel, considering the theory that Gothel is Gretel. She may appear, but I remember Eddy and Adam confirmed that the witches aren't new iterations. We have the witch from 1x09.

      -Mombi, I made a theory about Mombi: she was Zelena's enemy in Oz, and after the flashbacks of 6x18,  Zelena defeated her by forcing her to give her magic to the Crimson Heart (in the original story Glinda forced Mombi to drink a potion to take her magic)

      -Alice? Same as Blind Witch.

      -Jadis from Narnia. I don't think so, I don't know if they have the rights to include Narnia, and I don't think it's a classic yet.  I'd say the chance is 8%

      -Goldilocks?

      -Tia Dalma. For the same reason as Jadis, but this one is 0,1%.

      -Facilier. The coven is only WITCHES, not WITCHES AND WIZARDS, either, I don't believe Facilier is a wizard, I believe he's a practicer of voodoo magic.

      -Queen Narissa. Well, Queen Narissa is the Evil Queen and Maleficent, and the witches arent new iterations.

      -Morgan le Fay. Very likely, she was about to appear in Season 5.

      -Yzma. I LOVE YZMA, I NEED HER ON THE SHOW!

      -Madame Mim. 

      -The Enchantress from the Beauty and the Beast. Zelena is an allusion to her.

      -Hecate, Medea, Circe, Calyso, maybe, it'd be cool. They're all from greek mythology.

      -Sanderson Sisters, more likely one.

      QUESTION: Are they allowed to make Narnia and Pirates of the Caribbean?

      Disney sold the rights to Narnia, but maybe for POTC.

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    • Id like to see 1-yzma 2-wish evil queen(we've meet her in the first half of the season7) 3-gothel(obvi) 4-anastasia(Im not sure about her) 5-madame leotha 6-madame mim or morgane lefay 7-maleficent(to close her story ) 8-a witch from oz or from wonderland 9-ursula sea godesse?

      about gretel I still believe that her and hansel are witch hunters.... and Id like that tiger lily and Pocahontas be one women :)

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    • While it is the 8 witches total, we know Gothel, Ana, and probably an existing character like Robin or Alice will be 3 of the witches, so it is just the remaining 5 that helped Gothel in the past we need. For those I think it will be:

      Madame Leota from The Haunted Mansion

      Mama Odie from The Princess and The Frog

      A New Blind Witch from Hansel and Gretel

      Mombi or a different witch from the Oz Series

      The Dutchess from Alice in Wonderland OR Yzma from The Emperor's New Groove OR Madam Mim from The Sword in the Stone (basically we need a witch that deals in transforming humans into animals, and all three of these do)

      Thoughts?

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote: While it is the 8 witches total, we know Gothel, Ana, and probably an existing character like Robin or Alice will be 3 of the witches, so it is just the remaining 5 that helped Gothel in the past we need. For those I think it will be:

      Madame Leota from The Haunted Mansion

      Mama Odie from The Princess and The Frog

      A New Blind Witch from Hansel and Gretel

      Mombi or a different witch from the Oz Series

      The Dutchess from Alice in Wonderland OR Yzma from The Emperor's New Grove OR Madam Mim from The Sword in the Stone (basically we need a witch that deals in transforming humans into animals, and all three of these do)

      Thoughts?

      Thanks for saying where they are from, I couldn't remember Mama Odie from the movie, then I realized it was that one character. Very good guess as Tiana needs her related witch. Leota is basically confirmed. I agree with one being an existing character like Alice or Robin, or how potentially Regina and Zelena might try ti infiltrate into the coven in present day, but obviously they aren't the witches from the 7x10 flashback. I really hope for a new Blind Witch and Mombi since we have an Hansel & Gretel centric as well as a Zelena (Oz related) centric.

      Anyway, it seems a great line up, full of variety! Much better than what they did in season 5 with the hooded dark ones who did nothing and added nothing to the plot, and we didn't even know their identities.

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    • Even 5 seems a bit much for only half a season to wrap up EVERYBODY... unless they 'redeem' or kill off 2-3 almost immediately, which makes me think there may be "good" moles in the coven:  Like Cinderella's mother, Cecilia, that she may have changed her appearance and taken up the identity of a "baddie" after she failed to cure the poisoning of her heart.

      Pretty much established as given:

      Mother Gothel, Anastasia, and Madame Leota

      My strong predictions:

      Mombi or the Wicked Witch of the East (revenge on Zelena & her fam),

      Charlotte La Bouff- Tiana's rich,spoiled childhood friend, wanted to marry a prince- scorned that she was tossed aside and forgotten (I see this over Mama Odie)

      Cecilia as the New Queen of Hearts - playing along with the Coven, but is secretly out for Gothel (maybe she is disfigured from her run-in with the Jabberwock)

      Either Alice or Robin (blackmailed, and doing it only to protect the other)

      Filler predictions (Baddies who just want attention or "just not fitting" but may show up)

      Lily- May not be all bad, but may have some resentment toward Henry as his Author powers broke Isaac's curse - plus I came across this from a past interview regarding Lily and finding her father..“We intend to tell that story at some point this season,” EP Edward Kitsis says. “We set it up for a reason. That is one we are definitely intending to do.”  Source:  http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/02/spoiler-room-carter-hawaii-five-0-spoilers/  I know it's an old interview about a past season, but perhaps with so little time left now is the time

      Madam Mim/Morgana LeFay- I definately don't see both making an appearance, but that one of them may make up the Coven just to be bad.

      Tia Dalma (only because I can see her as an enemy for 'Pirate' Rogers)

      Queen Narissa- I don't see this as likely (has NO motivation that I can make)

      Sanderson Sister(s)- again no motivations, there are no children other than Lucy main (or even recurring) and even then, Lucy's present circumstances wouldn't benefit the sisters, it's not around Halloween, and as much as I would LOVE to see them- I am just not seeing any way to connect them other than just added to be part of the 'sisterhood'

      Mama Odie- Not really a "baddie" in the movie and I don't see her as someone who would allow herself to be pushed around by anyone

      Yzma- this would just be surreal for me- would just be comical at best- not that it wouldn't be a bad thing, but just WHY!?!?

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    • Suburbanprincess wrote:
      Even 5 seems a bit much for only half a season to wrap up EVERYBODY... unless they 'redeem' or kill off 2-3 almost immediately, which makes me think there may be "good" moles in the coven:  Like Cinderella's mother, Cecilia, that she may have changed her appearance and taken up the identity of a "baddie" after she failed to cure the poisoning of her heart.

      Pretty much established as given:

      Mother Gothel, Anastasia, and Madame Leota

      My strong predictions:

      Mombi or the Wicked Witch of the East (revenge on Zelena & her fam),

      Charlotte La Bouff- Tiana's rich,spoiled childhood friend, wanted to marry a prince- scorned that she was tossed aside and forgotten (I see this over Madam Odie)

      Cecilia as the New Queen of Hearts - playing along with the Coven, but is secretly out for Gothel (maybe she is disfigured from her run-in with the Jabberwock)

      Either Alice or Robin (blackmailed, and doing it only to protect the other)

      Filler predictions (Baddies who just want attention or "just not fitting" but may show up)

      Madam Mim/Morgana LeFay- I don't see both making an appearance but that one of them may make up the Coven

      Tia Dalma (only because I can see her as an enemy for 'Pirate' Rogers)

      Queen Narissa- I don't see this as likely (has no motivation I can make)

      Sanderson Sister(s)- again no motivations, there are no children other than Lucy as a main and her present circumstances wouldn't benefit the sisters and it's not around Halloween, as much as I would LOVE to see them- I am just not seeing anyway to connect them other than just being part of the 'sisterhood'

      Madam Odie- Not really a "baddie" in the movie and I don't see her as someone would allow herself to be pushed around

      Yzma- this would just be surreal for me- would just be comical at best- not that it wouldn't be a bad thing, but just WHY?

      I forgot Charlotte! it could fit with that blonde girl seen on set with Emma and Addy. You're right about Cecelia, I would love to see a New Queen of Hearts!

      I don't remember if Zelena had a first attempt of time traveling, when did she say that?

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    • My NEW Picks..

      Gothel 

      Anastasia Tremaine 

      Madame Leota 

      Yzma 

      Cecelia  (I would see her more as the New Blind Witch than the New Queen of Hearts)

      Charlotte La Bouff 

      Mad Madam Mim 

      Mombi 

      Wild Card Picks:

      Robin

      Tia Dalma 

      Circe 

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    • Truest Believer wrote:
      Suburbanprincess wrote:
      Even 5 seems a bit much for only half a season to wrap up EVERYBODY... unless they 'redeem' or kill off 2-3 almost immediately, which makes me think there may be "good" moles in the coven:  Like Cinderella's mother, Cecilia, that she may have changed her appearance and taken up the identity of a "baddie" after she failed to cure the poisoning of her heart.

      Pretty much established as given:

      Mother Gothel, Anastasia, and Madame Leota

      My strong predictions:

      Mombi or the Wicked Witch of the East (revenge on Zelena & her fam),

      Charlotte La Bouff- Tiana's rich,spoiled childhood friend, wanted to marry a prince- scorned that she was tossed aside and forgotten (I see this over Madam Odie)

      Cecilia as the New Queen of Hearts - playing along with the Coven, but is secretly out for Gothel (maybe she is disfigured from her run-in with the Jabberwock)

      Either Alice or Robin (blackmailed, and doing it only to protect the other)

      Filler predictions (Baddies who just want attention or "just not fitting" but may show up)

      Madam Mim/Morgana LeFay- I don't see both making an appearance but that one of them may make up the Coven

      Tia Dalma (only because I can see her as an enemy for 'Pirate' Rogers)

      Queen Narissa- I don't see this as likely (has no motivation I can make)

      Sanderson Sister(s)- again no motivations, there are no children other than Lucy as a main and her present circumstances wouldn't benefit the sisters and it's not around Halloween, as much as I would LOVE to see them- I am just not seeing anyway to connect them other than just being part of the 'sisterhood'

      Madam Odie- Not really a "baddie" in the movie and I don't see her as someone would allow herself to be pushed around

      Yzma- this would just be surreal for me- would just be comical at best- not that it wouldn't be a bad thing, but just WHY?

      I forgot Charlotte! it could fit with that blonde girl seen on set with Emma and Addy. You're right about Cecelia, I would love to see a New Queen of Hearts!

      I don't remember if Zelena had a first attempt of time traveling, when did she say that?

      She was gathering ingredients like the Scarecrow's brain, but Dorothy stopped her.

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    • In my opinion, I would love to be really shocked and have a character we know such as from season 1 reappear. For example Nova (to explain why the only sign of her in Storybrooke after Dreamy was in an extras video), Gretel all grown up, Lily,  or for those who always thought she was evil (and I do not) the Blue Fairy. 

      In terms of realistic predictions: Yzma, Madam Leota, Madam Mim, Mama Odie, Circe, Calypso, Alice/ Robin...

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    • They just said in an interview none of the witches from the coven are characters from season 1 to 6

      So that rules out Nova, Blue Fairy, WEvil Queen, etc...

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    • I know what they said, I just wish that they would do something like that because it would be cooler and connect it to the 'original' Once Upon a Time. 

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      They just said in an interview none of the witches from the coven are characters from season 1 to 6

      So that rules out Nova, Blue Fairy, WEvil Queen, etc...

      Well, technically, WEvil Queen only appeared in season 7.

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    • Yes but she was first mentioned in S6

      Also, there would be 2 Ronis in HH

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      They just said in an interview none of the witches from the coven are characters from season 1 to 6

      So that rules out Nova, Blue Fairy, WEvil Queen, etc...

      Link? (where)

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    • I think Ursula the godess has a chance of being one of the witches.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote: I think Ursula the godess has a chance of being one of the witches.

      The witches are going to be all new characters, I believe.

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    • Yeah, unless this is another Ursula, a.k.a. Ursula #4

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote: Yeah, unless this is another Ursula, a.k.a. Ursula #4

      Ursula #4? I thought there were two, not three.

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    • Anonymous 1029384756 wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote: Yeah, unless this is another Ursula, a.k.a. Ursula #4

      Ursula #4? I thought there were two, not three.

      Ursula the Sea Witch/Merrin, Ursula the Sea Goddess/Yvette, and Regina!Ursula. She wasn’t really Ursula but she filled the position of the Sea Witch while she was using that name so.

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    • Leroiblanc wrote:
      8Rob wrote:
      They just said in an interview none of the witches from the coven are characters from season 1 to 6

      So that rules out Nova, Blue Fairy, WEvil Queen, etc...

      Link? (where)

      "Since Once Upon a Time is now going to end, do you know if the Coven of Eight will tie into the show’s original mythology? — Bryan

      Alas, this new group of villains is very specific to this season, but their purpose serves the spirit of OUAT. “The Coven of Eight in very particular to Mother Gothel, but the idea of good versus evil and holding onto hope is the theme that was created in the pilot, and it will be the theme that gets us through the finale,” EP Edward Kitsis tells me."

      http://ew.com/tv/2018/02/15/spoiler-room-originals-imposters-svu/

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    • So at least 1 spot is filled for certain, Gothel.
      Anastasia may or may not be part of it, I suppose. I wonder how they will trick her?Are we ceratin the witches are all female characters?


      My wishes for the other 8 spots are:

      1. Mombi (the Wicked Witch of the North) (Oz)
      2. Madame Mim or Morgan Le Fay (Arthurian Lore)
      3.Circe or Medea (Greek Mythology)
      4. Hel or Angerboda (Norse mythology)
      5. Mother Holle (Grimm Brothers)
      6. Maybe a character coerced into joining who is actually good, like Mama Odie or a Good Witch from Oz.

      Others they could throw in:
      Yzma (Emperor's New Groove) (Disney Connection)
      Magica DeSpell (Duck Tales) (Disney Connection)
      Gayelette (Oz series)
      Morgause (Arthurian Lore)
      Orddu, Orgoch and Orwen (Chronicles of Prydain) (Disney Connection) Witch of the Waste or Yubaba (Very doubtful since her Disney connection is so small) Zixi (Queen Zixi of Ix and the Oz books) Alternate versions of other witches we've seen...I hope not. Two Evil Queens has been done to death by now!

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    • They are all women as confirmed by Gothel. A good witch from Oz (not Glinda, she's not back) is possible as they confirmed some witches are not evil. I hope they don't get all the obscure characters because I... don't know them, it's hard for me to get excited about those. However I remember the "witch" from the Princess and the Frog movie. So yeah, I would prefer Morgan Le Fay or a new Blind Witch.

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    • Saintfighteraqua wrote:
      So at least 1 spot is filled for certain, Gothel.
      Anastasia may or may not be part of it, I suppose. I wonder how they will trick her?Are we ceratin the witches are all female characters?


      My wishes for the other 8 spots are:

      1. Mombi (the Wicked Witch of the North) (Oz)
      2. Madame Mim or Morgan Le Fay (Arthurian Lore)
      3.Circe or Medea (Greek Mythology)
      4. Hel or Angerboda (Norse mythology)
      5. Mother Holle (Grimm Brothers)
      6. Maybe a character coerced into joining who is actually good, like Mama Odie or a Good Witch from Oz.

      Others they could throw in:
      Yzma (Emperor's New Groove) (Disney Connection)
      Magica DeSpell (Duck Tales) (Disney Connection)
      Gayelette (Oz series)
      Morgause (Arthurian Lore)
      Orddu, Orgoch and Orwen (Chronicles of Prydain) (Disney Connection) Witch of the Waste or Yubaba (Very doubtful since her Disney connection is so small) Zixi (Queen Zixi of Ix and the Oz books) Alternate versions of other witches we've seen...I hope not. Two Evil Queens has been done to death by now!

      Yes, they basically confirmed in show all the witches are female. Also, Leota from The Haunted Mansion is almost 100% confirmed.

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    • I thought so. I'm fine with that. I've heard Leota is confirmed as well, and I am sure she will be one of the witches or at least involved.


      Don't forget, there is one other blind witch, the one from the Pilot. We still don't know anything about her. I am pretty sure she was supposed to be the Blind Witch from Hansel and Gretel, and that got retconned just so they could make the Blind Witch attractive instead of an old woman. She can't be the same one canonically though since the Blind Witch from Hansel and Gretal was dead.

      I've always wondered who those other characters are.

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    • Madame Leota officially confirmed via press release!

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    • Merrin just posted a picture with Kristin and Lana, hinting that they may be returning. Maybe, JUST maybe they are members of the Coven

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    • Confirmed:

      Gothel 

      Anastasia Tremaine 

      Madame Leota 

      Highly possible:

      Cecelia

      Mombi 

      Maybe:

      Yzma 

      Blind Witch

      Ursula, the Sea Goddess

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    • Matheus1234zx wrote:
      Confirmed:

      Gothel 

      Anastasia Tremaine 

      Madame Leota 

      Highly possible:

      Cecelia

      Mombi 

      Maybe:

      Yzma 

      Blind Witch

      Ursula, the Sea Goddess

      The coven will be all new, without characters from past seasons or new iterations, so Ursula and the Blind Witch won't be in the coven. And I remember A&E confirmed after S3 that Ursula won't be coming back :( It's sad, it'd be funny to see her. ​​

      Confirmed: -Gothel -Anastasia -Madame Leota

      Highly: -Cecelia -Mombi   -Morgana le Fay 

      Maybe: -Charlotte LaBouff  -Mama Odie -Baya Yaga -Yzma -Circe, Medea or Calipso -Duchess from Alice in Wonderland -Polychrome -Morgause -Madame Medusa -Ozma -Witches from the Black Cauldron

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    • Wait, where did the Highly for Mombi and Cecelia come from? What did I miss while I wasn’t online xD

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    • Tysonjackson wrote:
      Wait, where did the Highly for Mombi and Cecelia come from? What did I miss while I wasn’t online xD

      Well, they have to add Zelena somehow to the story, and if green Zelena is appearing with her necklace, it means there are flashbacks, and one witch has to be conected with Zelena, so, Mombi is the best idea? And about Cecelia, we don't have any clue she's dead .-.



      P.S: Love your name 

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    • Truest Believer wrote:

      Tysonjackson wrote:
      Wait, where did the Highly for Mombi and Cecelia come from? What did I miss while I wasn’t online xD

      Well, they have to add Zelena somehow to the story, and if green Zelena is appearing with her necklace, it means there are flashbacks, and one witch has to be conected with Zelena, so, Mombi is the best idea? And about Cecelia, we don't have any clue she's dead .-.



      P.S: Love your name 

      Oh okay. I like the idea of them using more Oz storylines, always felt that was a wasted opportunity to just use characters from the film. And thank you!! :D

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