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  • I am so confused about the time-line for season 7 and how much time has gone by.  So Belle/Rumple/Gideon spent 18 years in the real world before moving to the Edge of Realms where years there are equal to a blink in the outside world.  So 18 years went by???  But Regina and Hook don't look 18 years older!  So did Regina and Hook get trapped in the curse before Rumple did?

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    • Rumple and Belle spent 18 years traveling the realms. Presumably, they passed through one or more where time runs strangely.

      Besides that, just don't think too hard about the timeline. The writers don't.

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    • Belle, Rumple, and Gideon were traveling through various realms. We don't know at what speed time went in those realms. But we know Rumple got to NEF and meets Alice shortly before Henry runs into Cinderella. So however many years it was for Belle, Rumple, and Gideon, it was only like 3-ish years in LWM, because Seattle is in 2017 in present day.

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    • Thank you both for the explanations, that makes a lot of sense.  I never considered that the realms Belle and Rumple were travelling in might also run at a different time speed.

      I just wanted to be sure of one other thing - so Henry is in the wish realm, right?  And it says "many years later" in the opening when Henry is grow into a different actor.  So does time run differenly in the wish realm too than it does on Earth?  I mean, Hook, Regina, and Emma only went from early 2017 to late 2017, but for Henry a lot more time passed, like maybe 4 or 5 years?

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    • Daffodillydoo wrote:
      Thank you both for the explanations, that makes a lot of sense.  I never considered that the realms Belle and Rumple were travelling in might also run at a different time speed.

      I just wanted to be sure of one other thing - so Henry is in the wish realm.  And it says "many years later" in the opening when Henry is grow into a different actor.  So does time run differenly in the wish realm too than it does on Earth?  I mean, Hook, Regina, and Emma only went from early 2017 to late 2017, but for Henry a lot more time passed, like maybe 4 or 5 years?

      First of all, Henry isn't in the Wish Realm, he's in the New Enchanted Forest. There's a difference -- while the first is possibly created by a wish and depicts all of the same characters in a life where Regina didn't cast the curse, the second is an entirely new realm like Wonderland or Oz.

      Secondly, the implication is that time in the New Enchanted Forest runs faster. I don't think it's been explicitly confirmed, though.

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    • Oh okay, it must have been Hook that was confusing me, because he looks exactly like wish realm Hook.  So Officer Rogers is actually New-Enchanted-Forest Hook, and not Wish-Realm-Hook?  So now there are 3 different Hooks?

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    • Daffodillydoo wrote:
      Oh okay, it must have been Hook that was confusing me, because he looks exactly like wish realm Hook.  So which Hook is he - Wish-Realm-Hook or New-Enchanted-Forest Hook?

      Wish Realm Hook. When Henry used the Message-in-a-Bottle, it went to Storybrooke to our Hook and to the Wish Realm to its Hook, so they both took a portal to the New Enchanted Forest.

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    • Thanks, I really appreciate the clarification.  Everything makes sense now! :)

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    • Yep, Dat explained everything nicely. If you have more questions feel free to ask, this season is a bit more confusing than usual with all the timeline shenanigans.

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    • Hi i just have a question about new enchanted rumple. I saw him being swooped up with New Hook in the curse but Gold was also there so is new rumple also there in hyperion heights or?? I’m just really confused. I’m on episode 13 now.

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    • There is no New Rumple, there is Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold who became Weaver, the Rumple who got caught in the curse is just Gold regressing back into an imp, how is explained in a few episodes.

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    • But how about the rumple from the past whom hook asked for help? Was it wish realm rumple?

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    • That was Wish Rumple, he also appeared in 611.

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    • Schroeswald wrote:
      That was Wish Rumple, he also appeared in 611.

      And he will also show up again later in the season. Jeez, in retrospect, Season 7 was very confusing.

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