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  • Ever since the seventh season was announced, one thing is bothering me, why does the beginning of a new book create new realms? Since the first season it has always seemed that these worlds and realms of storytelling have always existed and that somehow these stories reached our world and we distorted them, but then it comes the concept of Authors that can bend reality and seem that came from the Land Without Magic. At first it seemed normal, they only record what happens in these realms, maybe that's how the stories came for the Land Without Magic, until the seventh season arrives and comes the concept of new books with new versions of the same realms of storytelling. Does it mean that all the worlds we've seen so far, Enchanted Forest, Neverland, Land Without Color, were all created by Henry's book? If it is true, why is the Land Without Color not in the book? Why is the Author's pen a living entity? Why did Emma stop believe almost destroyed all the book's realms? My question is, how do the storybooks and the magical realms of storytelling really work, what is the true role of the authors, why do stories seem to be influenced by fate and how do the saviors relate to all this?

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    • Victor Colares wrote:
      Ever since the seventh season was announced, one thing is bothering me, why does the beginning of a new book create new realms? Since the first season it has always seemed that these worlds and realms of storytelling have always existed and that somehow these stories reached our world and we distorted them, but then it comes the concept of Authors that can bend reality and seem that came from the Land Without Magic. At first it seemed normal, they only record what happens in these realms, maybe that's how the stories came for the Land Without Magic, until the seventh season arrives and comes the concept of new books with new versions of the same realms of storytelling. Does it mean that all the worlds we've seen so far, Enchanted Forest, Neverland, Land Without Color, were all created by Henry's book? If it is true, why is the Land Without Color not in the book? Why is the Author's pen a living entity? Why did Emma stop believe almost destroyed all the book's realms? My question is, how do the storybooks and the magical realms of storytelling really work, what is the true role of the authors, why do stories seem to be influenced by fate and how do the saviors relate to all this?

      Nope i think God(Christ) created them and like Savior they are linked to specific world and realm,you can check out "List of Religious Refrencecs" on this wiki and i totally hate the Season Seven rebbot storyline arc with old already introduced charchters revisted like this, Season 7 should be about "Norse Mythology,Atlantis,Empire,Lilys Father,Sinbad and other Disney -NonDisney unfinished stories  and fairytales"all that whould eveantully lead to Season 8 storyline.Like for instance if this New version of Cinderella exist then so do other 2000 or 5000 diffrent versions of Cinderlla in diffrent laungages in OUATveres ,as i said it before this season will probably suck:Why? well because this season 7 sholudent have been a reboot-regul in the first place and enough already with "constant Dark Curses".So what do you think,tell me the turth do you think also this Season Seven will suck ?

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    • Well definitely this season will be the last. I watched "Hyperion Heights" and I have to say, the story is a mess. They won't be able to explain all this and still get good ratings.

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    • Victor i gota say you to you,you are the only possibly sain person on this threads that agrees with me,all other users are crazy "because they loved this Season 7 repeat of 1 season" like you said,it will suck,you and me both know that because the intre storyline,timeline and charchters are in tottal mess the viwers,critical reception and good ratings will not help this series in geting Season 8 now that you and me both know what kinfa dissapointing story awaits us.

      The reason why this Season 7 will suck is because it dosent have 3 main things in movies,films and television series:Epic Male or Female charchter,Music and location,on since Charmings,Zelena,Belle and Emma arent anymore regulars is i was a producer of a OUAT,i whould have chosen for a new main regular star of OUAT to be a male "Battle hardend Warrior King" who will both be based and inspired from J:R.R Tolkien Thorin Oakenshilde who whould with all bunch of dwarf and new fairytale charchter male warriors bring that spark and charm that was left at ending of Season 6 when Emma,Charmings,Zelena and Belle wrent anymore regulars.

      Plus in my view i think J.R.R Tolkien and Grimm brothers  should be mentiod as "Authors before Walt" you know since LORT/Grimm film and fairytales have been  referenced so its already established that his books and films (LoRT/The Hobbit) exist in OUATveres,in every way so  Season 7 First half should have gone in exploring: Norse Mythology :Norse Gods,Fenris,Surtr,Frost Beast,Nine realms while Second Half :Atlanits,Sinbad,Liliy&Maleficant (Liliys Father),The Dragon&Mulan,Empire,Authors and Savior history (in relation with Christ) who knows maybe they chould evean introduce League of Extradionary Gentelmens or Indian Jones charchters in relation with "Litreature Worlds",but it whould still have camoes and hidden messages from Dark Lord who whould be tied to Dark Realm.So tell me what do you think of this ideas,arent they better that what you have seen already in 7x01 episode.In view a WarriorKing charcher who i think OUAT fans whould love and whould be a great replacemnt of Emm Swan whould a Leanbow who whould be based upon Thorin ,since this charchter whould bring in meanings such as "Honor,Patriotisam and Loyalty".

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    • Victor Colares wrote:
      Well definitely this season will be the last. I watched "Hyperion Heights" and I have to say, the story is a mess. They won't be able to explain all this and still get good ratings.

      And sorrry for bad writings in my previous comment,i think if A&E went in path direction of all things i listed above this Season 7 promo,sneak peek trailers whould have intreseted alot of OUATfans in watching Season 7 because Thor whould be in it,plus it whould be all set up for events that will happend in Season  8.But as we know it ,Season 7 will suck.

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    • Your seven season certainly looks better than the one we're actually going to have. Norse mythology, Atlantis, savior history, sounds so cool. I personally would prefer an Indiana Jones style protagonist exploring new realms of storytelling. Surely it would be better than another curse.

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    • Victor Colares wrote:
      Your seven season certainly looks better than the one we're actually going to have. Norse mythology, Atlantis, savior history, sounds so cool. I personally would prefer an Indiana Jones style protagonist exploring new realms of storytelling. Surely it would be better than another curse.

      Well thanks friend,at least somebody thinks my ideas are cool.The main thing to continue the OUAT series is for us only if it has the spark and charm that previous 6 Seasons had,why my friend is this important:you see each Tv Series,film and movies if they want lets say seagul,pregaul films or evean trilogies and next seasons allways need to impreess "Critical Reception" guys ,and it has to have enough good viwer ratings so that ABC whould renwe it for another season,the best example for this is Fox Tv Series Sleepy Hollow.And i still dont get it why did ABC cancel OUATW when it should at least give it 2 more seasons so that rest of the charchters and locations whould be introduced,and i think Extreme Ghostbusters chould have served as spin-off series that introduces demons,ghouls,creatures and new ghost worlds,and it chould have tied in with Indiana Jones story.Like ABC is so stupid.

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    • Victor Colares wrote:
      Your seven season certainly looks better than the one we're actually going to have. Norse mythology, Atlantis, savior history, sounds so cool. I personally would prefer an Indiana Jones style protagonist exploring new realms of storytelling. Surely it would be better than another curse.

      And hey Victor i think that intire openning of Season 7 Ep 1 should have been like this:"We see 43 year old Henry Mills in his office room finaly finishing the last chapters in his Storybook about his family,then Violet comes in and asks him if he is finished and that there kids are waiting.We then see Henry writing this new chapter to his kids and it starts like this:"Well my children i have tollled you already what happend to me and my family ,but i havent tolled you all.Nearly 60 years ago in a land far away in wich there wasnt anylike in modern world  there was a city with great wealth filled with great treasures,gifts and happiness ,for this city laid before the doors of Greatest Kingdom in all of LWM ,the Northpole,deep build in the mountain and ruled by Santa Claus King Under the mountain.You have often asked your self this ouestion ,what dose Santa the rest of the year do when he dosent deliver gifts ,well with his people:dwarfs,leprechauns and gnomes he crafts and makes fine gems,jewlery and treasure.All was well until the great tragedy that came upon that day,the day Christmas whould no longer be the same".So what do you think about this narration story.

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    • I'll be honest, I don't think it would be a good start to new season, but it would be a great start to a Christmas special. Maybe an two-hours episode without connection with the storyline of the season. I'm sure your Santa would be amazing and epic. What if Santa Claus was related to someone in Norse mythology, like Odin. It is not that I am a fan of Norse mythology, but it is that many of the concepts we have today in the figure of Santa Claus comes from Norse mythology. If I did a Christmas special in the Once universe I would definitely make the conection. Instead of dwarfs,leprechauns and gnomes you could use the Nordic dwarfs.

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    • Victor Colares wrote:
      I'll be honest, I don't think it would be a good start to new season, but it would be a great start to a Christmas special. Maybe an two-hours episode without connection with the storyline of the season. I'm sure your Santa would be amazing and epic. What if Santa Claus was related to someone in Norse mythology, like Odin. It is not that I am a fan of Norse mythology, but it is that many of the concepts we have today in the figure of Santa Claus comes from Norse mythology. If I did a Christmas special in the Once universe I would definitely make the conection. Instead of dwarfs,leprechauns and gnomes you could use the Nordic dwarfs.

      Well  the reason i started the narrative story so diffrently is because "Once Upon A Time " or "Long Time Ago in Fairytale land" has became more than once boring and to classic so you need something fresh and unige,and i do think that your ideas are great to eithere use for Season 8 or Christmas special,but intire point of the narrative is:"What happend to Santa? Were are Dwarfs of Northpole ?What terrible tragedy came upon the Northpole people?" this ouestions that OUAT fans whould ask themself it whould be a prepartion for Season 8,but in Season 7 we whould yes focuse more on the things you and me agreed on that need to be introduced,and yes since Northpole is located far North it whould have possible Nordic-Christian elements in stlye and clothing,but since St Nicholas was a Christian Saint i whould definatly do it.But since OUAT has never done Christmas or Halloween special episode ,but it is possible or a flashback or evean a Tv movie.

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    • Kunica wrote:
      Victor Colares wrote:
      Ever since the seventh season was announced, one thing is bothering me, why does the beginning of a new book create new realms? Since the first season it has always seemed that these worlds and realms of storytelling have always existed and that somehow these stories reached our world and we distorted them, but then it comes the concept of Authors that can bend reality and seem that came from the Land Without Magic. At first it seemed normal, they only record what happens in these realms, maybe that's how the stories came for the Land Without Magic, until the seventh season arrives and comes the concept of new books with new versions of the same realms of storytelling. Does it mean that all the worlds we've seen so far, Enchanted Forest, Neverland, Land Without Color, were all created by Henry's book? If it is true, why is the Land Without Color not in the book? Why is the Author's pen a living entity? Why did Emma stop believe almost destroyed all the book's realms? My question is, how do the storybooks and the magical realms of storytelling really work, what is the true role of the authors, why do stories seem to be influenced by fate and how do the saviors relate to all this?
      Nope i think God(Christ) created them and like Savior they are linked to specific world and realm,you can check out "List of Religious Refrencecs" on this wiki.

      How do you get to the religious refrencecs?

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    • Ruby ridinghood wrote:
      Kunica wrote:
      Victor Colares wrote:
      Ever since the seventh season was announced, one thing is bothering me, why does the beginning of a new book create new realms? Since the first season it has always seemed that these worlds and realms of storytelling have always existed and that somehow these stories reached our world and we distorted them, but then it comes the concept of Authors that can bend reality and seem that came from the Land Without Magic. At first it seemed normal, they only record what happens in these realms, maybe that's how the stories came for the Land Without Magic, until the seventh season arrives and comes the concept of new books with new versions of the same realms of storytelling. Does it mean that all the worlds we've seen so far, Enchanted Forest, Neverland, Land Without Color, were all created by Henry's book? If it is true, why is the Land Without Color not in the book? Why is the Author's pen a living entity? Why did Emma stop believe almost destroyed all the book's realms? My question is, how do the storybooks and the magical realms of storytelling really work, what is the true role of the authors, why do stories seem to be influenced by fate and how do the saviors relate to all this?
      Nope i think God(Christ) created them and like Savior they are linked to specific world and realm,you can check out "List of Religious Refrencecs" on this wiki.
      How do you get to the religious refrencecs?

      You just typ in "Search" are List of Religious Refrences and thats it,same way you locate List of Disney,lost or Fairytale Refrences.

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    • Thank you.

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    • Ruby ridinghood wrote:
      Thank you.

      No worries friend.

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    • Somebody should add the pen appeared in season 6.

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    • the characters from princess and the frog from season 7 was a nice touch could of done without the whole alternate Rapunzel alternate cinderella story and wish realm with alternate hook. im currently writing a whole new story atm revolving around henry and violet who replaces the alternate ella.


      I wanna keep the princess and the frog characters in and add hunchback of notre dame characters


      Personally that's how season 7 to me should of went. the idea of unexplored parts of ftl would be great to have

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