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  • link: http://tvline.com/2017/07/06/once-upon-a-time-season-7-new-cast-gabrielle-anwar-dania-ramirez/

    Gabrielle Anwar and Dania Ramirez as main characters.

    Adelaide Kane, Mekia Cox and Rose Reynolds as recurring characters. :)

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    • Ahhhh! My family loved Burn Notice! It's gonna be weird seeing Fiona as... well, whoever she's playing. (Fiona from Shrek?)

      If any of them are Lucy's mama, it's probably Dania. But even she's kind of a stretch... we'll see.

      Besides that, I've got nothing on who they might be playing. I'm assuming Adelaide, Mekia, and Rose will be playing Ruby/Ashley/Leroy-types. That makes the most sense as to why they would be announced so far in advance even though they're recurring.

      If Dania is playing Lucy's mom, maybe Gabrielle is the main villain? That'd be entertaining to watch.

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    • When you make the same thread seconds later....XD

      One must be Lucy's Mom, I feel. At least one must be the villain, recurring or main. So...

      Lucy's Mom: Ramirez, I can see it.

      Villain/3rd Spoke of a Triangle: Anwar

      The Other three are princess entourage/fairies/friends/henchwomen...I think.

      The big shocker are the amount of women. Not saying it like it's a bad thing, just suprising.

      So, regulars: Henry (Andrew), Lucy (Allison), H2R (Lana, Robert, Colin), and Dania and Gabrielle. Cool. Hopefully with the other three the cast doesn't become bloated as surely we'll get everyone's backstory...

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    • Yeah, to me it looks like Dania or Mekia is Lucy's mom (but I'm thinking Dania, as I think they'll be doing another big love story) and the other one is the aunt of Lucy. Can't really put in the other ones to the story but I'm very excited to see what they planned! :)

      I'm okay with 7 main characters and I see it as Eskaver: I hope they'll concentrate on the plot.

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    • I wish they would reveal casting calls, so we can try to guess who they are. I'm sure one of them is a famous fairy tale character.

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    • Anubis16 wrote:
      I wish they would reveal casting calls, so we can try to guess who they are. I'm sure one of them is a famous fairy tale character.

      They are probably waiting for a big public event, like D23 or so to reveal them. Keeps things fresh over the hiatus.

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    • Anubis16 wrote:
      I wish they would reveal casting calls, so we can try to guess who they are. I'm sure one of them is a famous fairy tale character.

      With this casting I got the strong feeling that either Dania or Mekia could be Tiana - and one of the others could be from Swan Lake, maybe? Just my impression!

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    • I'm thinking Mekia could be Tiana if we're getting her. I doubt Mekia is Lucy's mom since she's not even close to Alison's ethnicity, which would hopefully be important (although there is that whole Lily thing, so). In which case, out of these five actresses, Dania is really the only option.

      It's also possible that Lucy's mom is a sixth incoming actress that hasn't been announced yet. But I kind of doubt they would leave her out of this announcement since she's supposed to be in the premiere.

      If Mekia is Tiana, where's Naveen? Are they saving the guys for a later announcement? Or is Tiana going solo with Rapunzel?

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    • So for mains, we're now at 3 men, 3 women, + minor Alison. 

      I think Dania Ramirez is obviously Lucy's mother, and I think she's definitely a better choice than the other actresses we were speculating about. 

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    • I always go with the "None of them are Disney-Insert Characters until heavily hinted at", like Jasmine and Aladdin who had casting calls that screamed only one or two options. So, removing Dania, who is probably  Lucy's Mom....

      If we split some things up, Anwar is one the upper spectrum of age, so villain (Lol, just a coincedence on Once.) I do feel that if we get a team-oriented villain, then it makes sense for her to lead it. (The Darkness was referred to as "they".)

      Mekia is about the age of Andrew and Dania. Don't know about Reynolds and Kane is pretty young.

      Then, in context, this is at least 15 or so years of a time jump. So, could be someone we already know or a relative.

      Almost sort of wonder would be the point of Emma if JMo said yes, even H2R seem like weird add-ons to this season with this new light.

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    • Dania Ramirez?? Yaaaay!! I love her. 

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    • Anwar - main villain. Still hoping for Morgan le Fay Ramirez - Lucy's mom. No idea who she is. Puss in Boots female ver? Cox - Tiana

      The other two I have no clue. Rooting for some characters like Odette, Odile, Ozma, Elisa of Wild Swans, etc to appear.

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    • Xtian MadHatter wrote:
      Ramirez - Lucy's mom. No idea who she is. Puss in Boots female ver?

      That's a... fairly specific guess. What makes you think she could be that?

      I'd love to see Morgan le Fay or Ozma. But I'm thinking we might be seeing more Greek mythology -- Hyperion Heights after all (yes, I know it's named after Hyperion Ave., but still). What if Gabrielle is playing, say, Gaia?

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    • A slight aside, I do hope they give Henry a friend or two (a guy friend too, which is why this is an aside). Emma suffered from that for much of the series. They've been love interests or family if they've stuck around. Emma really has no regular friends (August was like a kid for half the time). Likewise, I was upset with Henry getting a love interest before actually getting an onscreen friend. Like, uh, they could have grabbed an extra.

      So, One of the Recurrring Three could be Henry's friend.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      A slight aside, I do hope they give Henry a friend or two (a guy friend too, which is why this is an aside). Emma suffered from that for much of the series. They've been love interests or family if they've stuck around. Emma really has no regular friends (August was like a kid for half the time). Likewise, I was upset with Henry getting a love interest before actually getting an onscreen friend. Like, uh, they could have grabbed an extra.

      So, One of the Recurrring Three could be Henry's friend.

      That'd be nice. Would they be a normo from the LWM who has been Henry's friend since (insert whenever he got separated from the Charmings)? Or would they be someone he meets and develops a friendship with?

      The former would be fairly interesting -- they could even still be a fairy tale character with a Lily-esque story -- but the latter seems more likely.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      A slight aside, I do hope they give Henry a friend or two (a guy friend too, which is why this is an aside). Emma suffered from that for much of the series. They've been love interests or family if they've stuck around. Emma really has no regular friends (August was like a kid for half the time). Likewise, I was upset with Henry getting a love interest before actually getting an onscreen friend. Like, uh, they could have grabbed an extra.

      So, One of the Recurrring Three could be Henry's friend.

      That'd be nice. Would they be a normo from the LWM who has been Henry's friend since (insert whenever he got separated from the Charmings)? Or would they be someone he meets and develops a friendship with?

      The former would be fairly interesting -- they could even still be a fairy tale character with a Lily-esque story -- but the latter seems more likely.

      Either. Depends if currently, Henry is in the cursed suburbs or not. If just normal Seattle and that's the most present, then, Henry's got to have neighbors, a job, etc. He's bound to have run into someone. If not, they could have him meet her, then "bad things happen" and she sticks around.

      An LWM person would be more interesting. Henry as the LWM/FTL connection, LWM friend, FTL Love interest, FTL villain and perhaps even a LWM villain. Like a Season 2 thing where they're being attacked on both sides--Fairy Tale Madness going on, while the LWM "government" is investiagting, antagonizing, etc. Keeps the FTL villain in check, while stuff goes on. (Switch FTL villain with Regina and LWM Villain with Gold and you get season 1, lol).

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    • As always very beautiful castings. I'm of the persuasion at this very early point that Dania is Lucy's mother. I'm not really sure about the others unless we are getting Tiana in which I believe that is Miss Cox.

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    • HRHPrincessSierra wrote:
      As always very beautiful castings. I'm of the persuasion at this very early point that Dania is Lucy's mother. I'm not really sure about the others unless we are getting Tiana in which I believe that is Miss Cox.

      I'm ready to be wrong, but I don't think Mekia is playing Tiana. We'll have to get more info or we may as well say it's Henry's Angels. XD

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    • Henry's Angels!! I love it, let's go with that for now

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    • I'm guessing that Anwar will play the main villain, Ramirez will play Lucy's mom, and Cox will play Tiana. No idea about Kane and Reynolds. I like that we're getting some diversity.

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    • That's a lot of women, cool! But I also hope we get more men, as it's been stated a friend for Henry, unless that is Hook.

      I also bet there's gonna be a triangle, which is probably Lucy's mom - Henry - Female villain. Kinda disappointing anyway, not the triangle, but I was hoping for a male villain so we'd get the male version of Emma vs Regina.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:

      Xtian MadHatter wrote:
      Ramirez - Lucy's mom. No idea who she is. Puss in Boots female ver?

      That's a... fairly specific guess. What makes you think she could be that?

      I'd love to see Morgan le Fay or Ozma. But I'm thinking we might be seeing more Greek mythology -- Hyperion Heights after all (yes, I know it's named after Hyperion Ave., but still). What if Gabrielle is playing, say, Gaia?

      Because she's Latina and Puss in Boots is the only Latin character I can think of. I like the Odette/Odile theory but they should be Russian.

      Anwar is British, which makes me keep holding on to the hope that Morgan le Fay finally appears.

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    • Predictions:

      • Dania Ramirez is Lucy's mom... oh do I have some opinions about that.
      • Gabrielle Anwar is the new villain.
      • Mekia Cox is Tiana, otherwise what's the point of doing a S7?
      • Rose Reynolds is a grown-up Baby Hood.
      • Adelaide Kane, I have no idea.
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    • Predictions:

      Dania Ramirez is Lucy's mom (I LOVE the Odette theory. She doesn't have to be Russian)

      Gabrielle Anwar is Morgan le Fay (the new villain)

      Mekia Cox is Tiana

      Rose Reynolds is either the grown up version of Baby Hood or maybe (if they revist it) Aurora's mom

      Adelaide Kane is the grown up version of Violet (Henry's high school love. I would love it if Henry and Violet reconnected as adults after a long time apart)

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    • Dania and Mekia could be sisters, maybe they're the secret children of Sir Lancelot and Queen Quienivere. If not, perhaps they are playing Esmeralda and Tiana. Rose could be the Little Match Girl, Adelaide as Rose Red, and I agree that Gabrielle could be Morgan Le Fey.

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    • Adam.armstrong.33 wrote:

      Adelaide Kane is the grown up version of Violet (Henry's high school love. I would love it if Henry and Violet reconnected as adults after a long time apart)

      Ah, that's a great prediction! I'd definitely buy Adelaide as an older Violet. Perhaps she could even be the previously requested friend for Henry? Since Henry apparently has a new "epic love story" going on.

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    • My guesses (going to agree with alot of what people have already said):

      Gabrielle - New villain, given the town name going to guess someone from Greek Myth (maybe Hera?). If they didn't already shoot down Narnia, I would have guessed Jadis (White Witch). Morgana Le Fey isn't a terrible guess either, especially if Violet is still around.

      Dania - Has got to be Lucy's mom/Henry's love. Sticking with my guess of Odette from Swan Lake.

      Adelaide - Not really sure, best guess so far is Violet, but she could fit for a lot of characters.

      Mekia - Tiana from Princess and the Frog, hands down.

      Rose - Best guess I got is Charlotte from Princess and the Frog, but she could fit for a lot of characters as well.

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    • I do think Mekia somehow confirmed that she was playing Tiana, potentially. At least a Disney character. Just look at that tweet.

      https://twitter.com/MekiaCox/status/883119621032755200

      "#livingmydisneydream"

      She clearly precised "Disney dream". To me, she unintentionally confirmed she was playing a Disney character, and so most likely Tiana.

      Plus, do you recall that BTS pic showing the sign of that club "The Hyperion". You can eat and listen music in that club, which basically the kind of place Tiana wanted to open in the film.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      I do think Mekia somehow confirmed that she was playing Tiana, potentially. At least a Disney character. Just look at that tweet.

      https://twitter.com/MekiaCox/status/883119621032755200

      "#livingmydisneydream"

      She clearly precised "Disney dream". To me, she unintentionally confirmed she was playing a Disney character, and so most likely Tiana.

      Plus, do you recall that BTS pic showing the sign of that club "The Hyperion". You can eat and listen music in that club, which basically the kind of place Tiana wanted to open in the film.

      Either Tiana or Esmeralda. I'm also leaning towards Tiana myself.

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    • Adam.armstrong.33 wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      I do think Mekia somehow confirmed that she was playing Tiana, potentially. At least a Disney character. Just look at that tweet.

      https://twitter.com/MekiaCox/status/883119621032755200

      "#livingmydisneydream"

      She clearly precised "Disney dream". To me, she unintentionally confirmed she was playing a Disney character, and so most likely Tiana.

      Plus, do you recall that BTS pic showing the sign of that club "The Hyperion". You can eat and listen music in that club, which basically the kind of place Tiana wanted to open in the film.

      Either Tiana or Esmeralda. I'm also leaning towards Tiana myself.


      Esmeralda is a gypsy. Mekia is totally not from that origin. If she is a Disney character, then it is Tiana.

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    • Adam.armstrong.33 wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      I do think Mekia somehow confirmed that she was playing Tiana, potentially. At least a Disney character. Just look at that tweet.

      https://twitter.com/MekiaCox/status/883119621032755200

      "#livingmydisneydream"

      She clearly precised "Disney dream". To me, she unintentionally confirmed she was playing a Disney character, and so most likely Tiana.

      Plus, do you recall that BTS pic showing the sign of that club "The Hyperion". You can eat and listen music in that club, which basically the kind of place Tiana wanted to open in the film.

      Either Tiana or Esmeralda. I'm also leaning towards Tiana myself.

      I mean, technically just being on Once counts as a "Disney dream" since it is owned by Disney (well, ABC which is owned by Disney but whatever). But I still think Tiana is the most likely.

      So let's see. The general consensus is that Dania is Lucy's mother, actual character unknown; Gabrielle is the main villain, possibly Morgan le Fay; Mekia is Tiana; and Rose and Adelaide are more questionable, though Adelaide could be Violet.

      Here's the question: if we're even on the right track with Mekia at all, is she another Disney insert like Merida? Or a more loose connection like Ariel, Aladdin, and Jasmine (therefore based more off of The Frog Prince (or even The Frog Princess) rather than The Princess and the Frog)?

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Adam.armstrong.33 wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      I do think Mekia somehow confirmed that she was playing Tiana, potentially. At least a Disney character. Just look at that tweet.

      https://twitter.com/MekiaCox/status/883119621032755200

      "#livingmydisneydream"

      She clearly precised "Disney dream". To me, she unintentionally confirmed she was playing a Disney character, and so most likely Tiana.

      Plus, do you recall that BTS pic showing the sign of that club "The Hyperion". You can eat and listen music in that club, which basically the kind of place Tiana wanted to open in the film.

      Either Tiana or Esmeralda. I'm also leaning towards Tiana myself.

      Esmeralda is a gypsy. Mekia is totally not from that origin. If she is a Disney character, then it is Tiana.

      Well you never know with the show. Besides Esmeralda in the Disney version of "Hunchback" had an ethic feel to her.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      So let's see. The general consensus is that Dania is Lucy's mother, actual character unknown; Gabrielle is the main villain, possibly Morgan le Fay; Mekia is Tiana; and Rose and Adelaide are more questionable, though Adelaide could be Violet.

      Looks like TVguide pretty much agrees with this, minus Mekia as Tiana. I doubt their prediction that Mekia and/or Rose are love interests for H2R, though.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Adam.armstrong.33 wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      I do think Mekia somehow confirmed that she was playing Tiana, potentially. At least a Disney character. Just look at that tweet.

      https://twitter.com/MekiaCox/status/883119621032755200

      "#livingmydisneydream"

      She clearly precised "Disney dream". To me, she unintentionally confirmed she was playing a Disney character, and so most likely Tiana.

      Plus, do you recall that BTS pic showing the sign of that club "The Hyperion". You can eat and listen music in that club, which basically the kind of place Tiana wanted to open in the film.

      Either Tiana or Esmeralda. I'm also leaning towards Tiana myself.
      I mean, technically just being on Once counts as a "Disney dream" since it is owned by Disney (well, ABC which is owned by Disney but whatever). But I still think Tiana is the most likely.

      So let's see. The general consensus is that Dania is Lucy's mother, actual character unknown; Gabrielle is the main villain, possibly Morgan le Fay; Mekia is Tiana; and Rose and Adelaide are more questionable, though Adelaide could be Violet.

      Here's the question: if we're even on the right track with Mekia at all, is she another Disney insert like Merida? Or a more loose connection like Ariel, Aladdin, and Jasmine (therefore based more off of The Frog Prince (or even The Frog Princess) rather than The Princess and the Frog)?

      I hope they base it off of The Frog Prince, I'm sure The Princess and the Frog is a good movie, but I want to see The Frog Prince adapted. Unless they find a way to adapt both like how they had both Frozen and Hans Christain Andersen's The Snow Queen. Maybe the orginal frog prince and his wife could have a baby (Naveen) who for some reason inherits his father's curse and becomes a frog and then he meets Tiana. Though they kind of did that with Briar Rose and Aurora. (I still don't see why that was necessary, but oh well)

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    • LOL I used to wish for them to use The Frog Prince, but after reading the original material, then no thanks. The prince and the princess in that tale are both utterly annoying, imagine Charlotte as the princess. This time they should use the Disney version, though mixing both the old and the new is also welcome.

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    • I'm excited to see the Princess and the Frog adapted! I wish they had cast actresses I know though. Let's see with the men...

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    • So happy for Adelaide, she's an amazing actress! I kind of hope she's not Violet though.

      Dania is probably Lucy's mom. While Mekia is probably Tiana.

      I think Gabrielle, Adelaide and Rose are Greek Goddesses, maybe Hera, Athena and Aphrodite? (or they could be the three Fates)

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    • AlbOuat wrote:
      So happy for Adelaide, she's an amazing actress! I kind of hope she's not Violet though.

      Agreed! I hope they'll give her an iconic character to play. She has such a beauty that struck me at first sight like Meghan Ory's years ago. She would be wasted on Violet.

      Here's hoping she would play Odette/Odile, Thumbelina, Ozma or someone like that.

      I like the Gabrielle Anwar is Morgan le Fay theory. If indeed she is, then my hope for Merlin to return might as well come true.

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    • Thinking that way, if Mekia is Tiana then we could have Naveen, Facilier, and maybe Charlotte.

      Morgan le Fay could be brought along with Merlin and the conclusion of Lancelot and Guinevere, as well as Lady of the Lake mention. Maybe they're kings and queens of Camelot now.

      Still have no idea who Dania might be. I'd love to have Odette on the show but I'd rather choose a Russian actress to play her. Like someone has mentioned above, Puss in Boots is reasonable. Her real name maybe Cara (Puss in Spanish) and her nickname is 'Puss'

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    • I don't see them making a female character Puss in Boots for obvious reasons. (Add a "y" to the end of Puss, if you don't know what I'm talking about). Also, since we haven't seen an animal character adapted as a human yet, I don't think they are going to start now.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      I don't see them making a female character Puss in Boots for obvious reasons. (Add a "y" to the end of Puss, if you don't know what I'm talking about). Also, since we haven't seen an animal character adapted as a human yet, I don't think they are going to start now.

      Lol, my thoughts exactly. Just didn't want to point that out myself. XD Can't have Henry go around calling a woman "Puss" without people blaming and shaming his moms.

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    • I hope they give Tiana more than one flashback, I don't want them to rush and ruin her story in 20 minutes of fb.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      I hope they give Tiana more than one flashback, I don't want them to rush and ruin her story in 20 minutes of fb.

      Well, Tiana isn't confirmed so, no worries.

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    • Do we have the confirmation for SDCC? 

      Because if yes, we'll know who these women are by then.

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    • AlbOuat wrote:
      Do we have the confirmation for SDCC? 

      Because if yes, we'll know who these women are by then.

      We'll likely know before then, because it is confirmed Once will be doing a panel at D23, and that's the week before SDCC.

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    • Wicked Wizard of the West wrote:

      'Still have no idea who Dania might be. I'd love to have Odette on the show but I'd rather choose a Russian actress to play her. Like someone has mentioned above, Puss in Boots is reasonable. Her real name maybe Cara (Puss in Spanish) and her nickname is 'Puss'

      As some said earlier in the conversation, I don't think having a woman play Puss in Boots would go very well with women's groups. Especially if her nickname is Puss. So I agree with she could be Odette from "Swan Lake" (and Lucy's mom). However I'm also very surprised that since Dania Ramirez is Latina, no one mentioned that she could be Elena of Avalor.

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    • Adam.armstrong.33 wrote:
      Wicked Wizard of the West wrote:

      'Still have no idea who Dania might be. I'd love to have Odette on the show but I'd rather choose a Russian actress to play her. Like someone has mentioned above, Puss in Boots is reasonable. Her real name maybe Cara (Puss in Spanish) and her nickname is 'Puss'

      As some said earlier in the conversation, I don't think having a woman play Puss in Boots would go very well with women's groups. Especially if her nickname is Puss. So I agree with she could be Odette from "Swan Lake" (and Lucy's mom). However I'm also very surprised that since Dania Ramirez is Latina, no one mentioned that she could be Elena of Avalor.

      It has been mentioned in other threads. Most people think that it is unlikely, as Elena is a children's tv show character only. Meaning that she would only be recognized by a very small segement of the viewing audience.

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    • Very true about Elena.

      Also whoever said that Rose Reynolds could possibly be Charlotte from "The Princess and the Frog", that's great prediction! She looks like the character from the film!

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    • Adam.armstrong.33 wrote:
      Very true about Elena.

      Also whoever said that Rose Reynolds could possibly be Charlotte from "The Princess and the Frog", that's great prediction! She looks like the character from the film!

      Well, that depends on how she'll look on show. They could give her wild, pink hair and scaly skin and then it'll be moot how she appears. We'll need more information. (Sort of the reason why I doubt Mekia is Tiana. She can be, but just because she's black doesn't automatically mean she's Tiana.)

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    • Just putting this out there, but Gabrielle Anwar would make an awesome Morgana Le Fay.

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    • MyPretties wrote: Just putting this out there, but Gabrielle Anwar would make an awesome Morgana Le Fay.

      I wonder how Morgan Le Fay would fit into the King Arthur story. She obviously would not know Merlin since he was a tree. Though they could have had an encounter before Niume transformed him. Maybe she could be related to him or the apprentice. If she is older enough to be related to either one of them she couldn't be Arthur's half-sister. Mordred was introduced in a bonus feature, what if like in the legend Mordred is Morgan's son?

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    • I think Season 1 through 6, we have seen characters altered their fates or had their fates altered by others,  it's only fitting to end the series to end with the Sisters Fates as the final bads. They are mad at the alteration. In Greek myths, men and gods were subject to these three, so they would more bad then even Hades and Fiona. For the series, along the way, one might have fallen in love and had a child with Henry. So maybe three of the new characters are the Sisters Fate.

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    • Seasrmar wrote:
      I think Season 1 through 6, we have seen characters altered their fates or had their fates altered by others,  it's only fitting to end the series to end with the Sisters Fates as the final bads. They are mad at the alteration. In Greek myths, men and gods were subject to these three, so they would more bad then even Hades and Fiona. For the series, along the way, one might have fallen in love and had a child with Henry. So maybe three of the new characters are the Sisters Fate.

      A previous poster suggested that Mekia could be Tiana, Dania could be Lucy's mom and Adelaide, Gabrielle and Rose could be 3 Greek goddesses because of the multiple meanings of "Hyperion". I instinctively thought these 3 could be the 3 Fates. 

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    • JanzPotter wrote:
      Seasrmar wrote:
      I think Season 1 through 6, we have seen characters altered their fates or had their fates altered by others,  it's only fitting to end the series to end with the Sisters Fates as the final bads. They are mad at the alteration. In Greek myths, men and gods were subject to these three, so they would more bad then even Hades and Fiona. For the series, along the way, one might have fallen in love and had a child with Henry. So maybe three of the new characters are the Sisters Fate.
      A previous poster suggested that Mekia could be Tiana, Dania could be Lucy's mom and Adelaide, Gabrielle and Rose could be 3 Greek goddesses because of the multiple meanings of "Hyperion". I instinctively thought these 3 could be the 3 Fates. 

      I myself have requested the Fates as possible villains, but the question would be: why is one Fate a series regular and her sisters aren't? If any of these five are the Fates, I would assume it would be Mekia, Adelaide, and Rose so that the Fates are all equally billed.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      JanzPotter wrote:
      Seasrmar wrote:
      I think Season 1 through 6, we have seen characters altered their fates or had their fates altered by others,  it's only fitting to end the series to end with the Sisters Fates as the final bads. They are mad at the alteration. In Greek myths, men and gods were subject to these three, so they would more bad then even Hades and Fiona. For the series, along the way, one might have fallen in love and had a child with Henry. So maybe three of the new characters are the Sisters Fate.
      A previous poster suggested that Mekia could be Tiana, Dania could be Lucy's mom and Adelaide, Gabrielle and Rose could be 3 Greek goddesses because of the multiple meanings of "Hyperion". I instinctively thought these 3 could be the 3 Fates. 
      I myself have requested the Fates as possible villains, but the question would be: why is one Fate a series regular and her sisters aren't? If any of these five are the Fates, I would assume it would be Mekia, Adelaide, and Rose so that the Fates are all equally billed.

      I think the regular one will be Lucy's mother, and the recurring ones are her sisters. I think it'll be natural we'll see more of Lucy's mother. We'll get to see how Henry and her met, how the relationship unfold,  how their marriage was, how Lucy was born, etc. Along the way, we'll just get bits of her Sisters, so that'll explain the recurring part until they ultimately reveal. We won't see them on screen that much, but we'll see their effects. Then we'll see more of them. KInda like how Fiona was only seen in one episode early in Season 6 and we don't see a whole lot of her until later on.

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    • Seasrmar wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      JanzPotter wrote:
      Seasrmar wrote:
      I think Season 1 through 6, we have seen characters altered their fates or had their fates altered by others,  it's only fitting to end the series to end with the Sisters Fates as the final bads. They are mad at the alteration. In Greek myths, men and gods were subject to these three, so they would more bad then even Hades and Fiona. For the series, along the way, one might have fallen in love and had a child with Henry. So maybe three of the new characters are the Sisters Fate.
      A previous poster suggested that Mekia could be Tiana, Dania could be Lucy's mom and Adelaide, Gabrielle and Rose could be 3 Greek goddesses because of the multiple meanings of "Hyperion". I instinctively thought these 3 could be the 3 Fates. 
      I myself have requested the Fates as possible villains, but the question would be: why is one Fate a series regular and her sisters aren't? If any of these five are the Fates, I would assume it would be Mekia, Adelaide, and Rose so that the Fates are all equally billed.
      I think the regular one will be Lucy's mother, and the recurring ones are her sisters. I think it'll be natural we'll see more of Lucy's mother. We'll get to see how Henry and her met, how the relationship unfold,  how their marriage was, how Lucy was born, etc. Along the way, we'll just get bits of her Sisters, so that'll explain the recurring part until they ultimately reveal. We won't see them on screen that much, but we'll see their effects. Then we'll see more of them. KInda like how Fiona was only seen in one episode early in Season 6 and we don't see a whole lot of her until later on.

      I don't think the Fates are supposed to be interferring with events, they just spin the thread and cut it when it's time for the person to die, if I remember correctly. Falling in love would be a huge taboo, because who knows what could happen if Fate falls in love with you. The sisters would be recurring because as Fates, they aren't allowed to intefere with Henry's fate too much, but they're still trying to break him and Lucy's mom up. Eventually, Lucy's birth forces them to take drastic meausres and they cast the curse to separate them.

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    • As interesting as all this theorizing on the Fates is, I don't think that is what is happening, at least not at present.

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    • So...

      Gabrielle Anwar - The villian - hope Morgana Le Fay, maybe she took Wish Realm's Rumple's darkness and is now the second dark one

      Dania Ramirez - Tiana

      Mekia Cox - Lucy's mother, I don't know why, she just seems more Lucylike than Dania

      Adelaide Kane - Interesting... Who could she be. I wonder

      Rose Reynolds - New Robin Hood - I mean would be nice if Robin's daughter would be as good archer as her father was.

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    • Seems like Adelaide is Gabrielle's daugther or sidekick or something like that based on the BTS video

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    • Zalvukalic wrote:
      So...

      Gabrielle Anwar - The villian - hope Morgana Le Fay, maybe she took Wish Realm's Rumple's darkness and is now the second dark one

      Dania Ramirez - Tiana

      Mekia Cox - Lucy's mother, I don't know why, she just seems more Lucylike than Dania

      Adelaide Kane - Interesting... Who could she be. I wonder

      Rose Reynolds - New Robin Hood - I mean would be nice if Robin's daughter would be as good archer as her father was.

      I don't think enough time has passed for Rose to play Baby Robin. Of course, Adam's been pretty weird about time-passing questions, so maybe there's some temporal nonsense at play.

      Also, ethnicity is worth noting. Dania is a Dominican-American, which is not Tiana's original ethnicity (which doesn't necessarily rule her out) whereas Mekia appears to be black or at least mixed (I can't find any official source, but that's my admittedly unqualified observation), which is not even close to Alison Fernandez (and therefore Lucy). Between those two roles and actresses, ethnicity-wise, Dania is a better fit for Lucy's mother and Mekia is a better fit for Tiana. And why would Tiana be a series regular while Mama Mills is just a guest?

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    • Yeah, like 15 to 20 years have passed. So, there's possibility of someone being grown up, but we'd have to see the state of SB and it's citizens.

      Gabby and Adelaide seem to be villainess and sidekick. So, I guess I'll have to do some research on female villains with female sidekicks. Well, after D23 and more filming. XD

      Dania, I feel must be heavily tied to the villain, or perhaps Mekia is.

      Well, I've got nothing but flashes of that NBC(?) Oz show with the witches, lol.

      Edit: If they are going with all things Greek, then those two could be Circe and Medea (aunt and niece) and witches like Once likes it. (Or move it up to Hecate and then Circe) Circe was the daughter of Helios, who is the son of Hyperion. So, it is the family line of Hyperion. Best thing I've got.

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    • Zalvukalic wrote:
      So...

      Gabrielle Anwar - The villian - hope Morgana Le Fay, maybe she took Wish Realm's Rumple's darkness and is now the second dark one

      Dania Ramirez - Tiana

      Mekia Cox - Lucy's mother, I don't know why, she just seems more Lucylike than Dania

      Adelaide Kane - Interesting... Who could she be. I wonder

      Rose Reynolds - New Robin Hood - I mean would be nice if Robin's daughter would be as good archer as her father was.

      Dania would not play Tiana, and Mekia would not play Lucy's mom. Looks aside, as Dat said above, Dania is of Latina origin (like Lucy), and Mekia is of African origin (like Tiana). They are not going to have those two roles played by someone of a different ethnicity, even if their skin tones are similar.

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      Edit: If they are going with all things Greek, then those two could be Circe and Medea (aunt and niece) and witches like Once likes it. (Or move it up to Hecate and then Circe) Circe was the daughter of Helios, who is the son of Hyperion. So, it is the family line of Hyperion. Best thing I've got.

      Oh, that is a really, really good and plausible guess.

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      Edit: If they are going with all things Greek, then those two could be Circe and Medea (aunt and niece) and witches like Once likes it. (Or move it up to Hecate and then Circe) Circe was the daughter of Helios, who is the son of Hyperion. So, it is the family line of Hyperion. Best thing I've got.

      Like CDA said, that's a great guess and it's plausible. They've done some but not a lot of Greek stuff, and I do want more. Plus, Hecate is the goddess of magic. If we continue ramping up the villain power/evil level like Once usually does, who better to follow the origin of the Dark Curse than the goddess of magic herself. Of course, Hecate doesn't have to be a villain. There is light and dark magic, after all, and a goddess of magic would be patron of both. Given how many times we've seen mention of higher powers like fate and other such "forces we don't understand" on this show, plus how Merlin said the Grail was a gift from the gods when he found it, these sorts of higher powers have been on the top of my list of stuff I wanna see for a looonng time. Specifically, Hecate has been on top of that list for a long time. If we get Hecate, that has some crazy potential for her messing with peoples' magic (canceling, strengthening, giving people the ability to use it, etc) or messing with the laws of magic, or both. I don't see Hecate ending up as a straight up hero, she's either gonna be the basically omnipotent party who has never intervened until now and has some far reaching goal that she needs the hero's help with, or she's the ultimate villain to end all ultimate villains. It would make it even cooler if she acted like Greek gods always do in the myths and meddle with people's lives just for kicks or because they need peons. What if she gave magic to mortals as some sort of epic game that lasted thousands of years, and pulled a high-level Isaac and was manipulating peoples' fates because it keeps it fun. What if she was spectating the story all along. Or, alternatively, she made some sort of bet with another god and to settle it they played an epic game where they made the Grail and gave people magic, then split off where she was in charge of dark magic and her opponent ruled light magic, and they played mortals off each other in an attempt to settle their debt. They ramped it up for like a thousand years and played with fate until they each got a champion in order- the Black Fairy for Hecate on the side of darkness, and Emma the Savior on the side of light. They fight the Final Battle, and light wins, but Hecate refuses to accept it and gets her hands dirty at last to do whatever it takes to win the game.


      Yeah, Hecate would be super cool.

      (Sorry for the long post. Idk why but I can't ever seem to do short posts.)

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    • I agree, Hectate sounds cool.

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    • Just a random idea I got: Gabrielle Anwar as Mother Nature ^^

      Would be cool to see her on OUAT :p

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Just a random idea I got: Gabrielle Anwar as Mother Nature ^^

      Would be cool to see her on OUAT :p

      That's kind of what I was thinking with Gaia. Gaia is also the mother of Hyperion (well, and the other Titans), so she's a little more thematically logical than Mother Nature, though I'd say either would be equally likely. Having the villain be a mother -- while still being omnipotent/omniscient/one of those omni words so that she can be especially threatening -- would give them the chance to make a connection between her and Lucy's mom that we lost between Fiona and Belle.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      Just a random idea I got: Gabrielle Anwar as Mother Nature ^^

      Would be cool to see her on OUAT :p

      That's kind of what I was thinking with Gaia. Gaia is also the mother of Hyperion (well, and the other Titans), so she's a little more thematically logical than Mother Nature, though I'd say either would be equally likely. Having the villain be a mother -- while still being omnipotent/omniscient/one of those omni words so that she can be especially threatening -- would give them the chance to make a connection between her and Lucy's mom that we lost between Fiona and Belle.


      I love it!

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Yeah, like 15 to 20 years have passed. So, there's possibility of someone being grown up, but we'd have to see the state of SB and it's citizens.

      Gabby and Adelaide seem to be villainess and sidekick. So, I guess I'll have to do some research on female villains with female sidekicks. Well, after D23 and more filming. XD

      Dania, I feel must be heavily tied to the villain, or perhaps Mekia is.

      Well, I've got nothing but flashes of that NBC(?) Oz show with the witches, lol.

      Edit: If they are going with all things Greek, then those two could be Circe and Medea (aunt and niece) and witches like Once likes it. (Or move it up to Hecate and then Circe) Circe was the daughter of Helios, who is the son of Hyperion. So, it is the family line of Hyperion. Best thing I've got.

      I LOVE the character of Medea in Greek mythology, I hope so!

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    • I love the idea of Gaea/Mother Nature. I would lean towards my theory (of course, totally not biased) because I rather not have another "crazy" mother, which are the season's villain for like half of the show. So, quite likely, but I'd---well, as long as they do either justice. 

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    • Dania Ramirez's character is named Jacinda.

      Not yet proven, but she is Lucy's mom for sure ^^

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Dania Ramirez's character is named Jacinda.

      Not yet proven, but she is Lucy's mom for sure ^^

      Hmmmm thats very interesting as the name Jacinda is of Spanish and Greek origin. Im now at a total loss as to which fairytale charcter she could be

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    • TVLine live has confirmed that Dania is indeed Lucy's mom and "guessing" [ ;) ] that Adelaide is grown up Violet and Anwar is the villain.

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    • HRHPrincessSierra wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      Dania Ramirez's character is named Jacinda.

      Not yet proven, but she is Lucy's mom for sure ^^

      Hmmmm thats very interesting as the name Jacinda is of Spanish and Greek origin. Im now at a total loss as to which fairytale charcter she could be


      Actually, it is Spanish/Portuguese

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    • JMsapphireZ wrote:
      TVLine live has confirmed that Dania's is indeed Lucy's mom and "guessing" [ ;) ] that Adelaide is grown up Violet and Anwar is the villain.

      Source?

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      HRHPrincessSierra wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      Dania Ramirez's character is named Jacinda.

      Not yet proven, but she is Lucy's mom for sure ^^

      Hmmmm thats very interesting as the name Jacinda is of Spanish and Greek origin. Im now at a total loss as to which fairytale charcter she could be

      Actually, it is Spanish/Portuguese

      Yes, your'e right XD! I actually have a cousin with that name and i couldnt remember if she told me it Greek or Portuguese so I went with my gut lol

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      JMsapphireZ wrote:
      TVLine live has confirmed that Dania's is indeed Lucy's mom and "guessing" [ ;) ] that Adelaide is grown up Violet and Anwar is the villain.
      Source?

      TVLine's Facebook live. I can't get the link.

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    • Sooo, who is Jacinda an actual fairy tale character or an original one created by A&E?

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    • Calibaz wrote:
      Sooo, who is Jacinda an actual fairy tale character or an original one created by A&E?

      With that name, it seems original.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Calibaz wrote:
      Sooo, who is Jacinda an actual fairy tale character or an original one created by A&E?
      With that name, it seems original.

      Guess, they're going for an all original cast with characters like Jacinda and Anwar.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Calibaz wrote:
      Sooo, who is Jacinda an actual fairy tale character or an original one created by A&E?
      With that name, it seems original.

      Nope, I don't think so. Googled it and there's no such fairytale character, and it means hyacinth. Maybe something related to flowers, maybe even a fairy

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Dania Ramirez's character is named Jacinda.

      Not yet proven, but she is Lucy's mom for sure ^^

      It is actually the English form of the the Spanish name, Jacinta. Both names mean Hyacinth, which is the name of a flower, which is found in many places, including Greece. It is also the name of a Greek hero and lover of Apollo. Needless to say, I'm not sure what fairytale character that makes Dania's charater. See links for references:

      https://www.babynames.com/name/jacinda

      https://www.babynames.com/name/jacinta

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyacinth_(plant)

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyacinth_(mythology)

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    • Dania's character is conformed to be Jacinda. She's also with Andrew and Alison.

      https://twitter.com/canadagraphs/status/884480860220669952

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    • Jacinda (Further called Jace, by me) could be a literary character or related to one. The only thing about Hyacinths was a prince, so unless they twisted the story I doubt it. Jacinda means beautiful (Greek?) or hyacinth (flower).

      Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Hyacinth_and_the_Dear_Little_Princess

      It's part of a book called, "The Blue Fairy book". XD

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    • https://twitter.com/YasminaSotelo/status/884482970924441600

      Jacinda is wearing a blue princess dress

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    • Calibaz wrote: Dania's character is conformed to be Jacinda. She's also with Andrew and Alison.

      https://twitter.com/canadagraphs/status/884480860220669952

      Let's keep that stuff more towards the episode spoiler threads. Just in case someone wants to know the character but not the episode content.

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    • JMsapphireZ wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      JMsapphireZ wrote:
      TVLine live has confirmed that Dania's is indeed Lucy's mom and "guessing" [ ;) ] that Adelaide is grown up Violet and Anwar is the villain.
      Source?
      TVLine's Facebook live. I can't get the link.


      Actually, they did not confirm at all. They were speculating the roles and just said, it seems it was a given about Dania but not a confirmation.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Jacinda (Further called Jace, by me) could be a literary character or related to one. The only thing about Hyacinths was a prince, so unless they twisted the story I doubt it. Jacinda means beautiful (Greek?) or hyacinth (flower).

      Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Hyacinth_and_the_Dear_Little_Princess

      It's part of a book called, "The Blue Fairy book". XD

      Boy, I hope they are not pulling from that story. It is both obscure and not that exciting. Guess time will tell.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      JMsapphireZ wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      JMsapphireZ wrote:
      TVLine live has confirmed that Dania's is indeed Lucy's mom and "guessing" [ ;) ] that Adelaide is grown up Violet and Anwar is the villain.
      Source?
      TVLine's Facebook live. I can't get the link.

      Actually, they did not confirm at all. They were speculating the roles and just said, it seems it was a given about Dania but not a confirmation.

      Yeah it was more of a speculation.

      Interesting name, but nothing comes to my mind. 

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    • Probably Jacinda is just a new name they're giving to a character without original name in folktales, like Ingrid the Snow Queen or Zelena the Wicked Witch. Or it's her cursed name.

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    • Wicked Wizard of the West wrote:
      Probably Jacinda is just a new name they're giving to a character without original name in folktales, like Ingrid the Snow Queen or Zelena the Wicked Witch. Or it's her cursed name.

      Zelena means green in slovene, bosnian, croatian, serbian...

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    • So, just to sum up again:

      Gabrielle Anwar: Main Antagonist

      Dania Ramirez: Jacinda, Lucy's mom

      Mekia Cox: Tiana?

      Adelaide Kane: Villain's sidekick

      Rose Reynolds: Charlotte?

      I hope Jacinda turns out to be some fairy tale character, that's what they promised when season 6 wrapped up.

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    • I would love for Mekia to be Tiana and Rose could very well be Charlotte. I would also love it if Adelaide were Mary Poppins perhaps with a villainous twist a la Peter Pan stealing children. It would be interesting if the main villain (perhaps Gabrielle) were Yzma from The Emperor's New Groove. The character's original storyline (and song) was to "snuff out the light" or sun to prevent aging. This would pair well with the danger in the finale of season six referred to as "the darkness", the fact that Lucy means "light", and that Hyperion was the father of the sun god Helios.  As for Dania, I would hope that she is not playing Elena of Avalor but someone from literature like Dulcinea from Don Quixote. After all, Henry is a very quixotic character himself.

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    • I have a STRONG feeling that Mekia is NOT playing Tiana. In fact, I believe none of them are playing Disney characters and they are either completely original characters or characters from fairytales (that haven't been adapted by Disney) or other fictional stories.

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    • They confirmed Lucy's mom is a fairy tale character though.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      They confirmed Lucy's mom is a fairy tale character though.

      Just because she's a fairytale character doesn't mean she's a Disney character.

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    • Weaslark wrote:
      I have a STRONG feeling that Mekia is NOT playing Tiana. In fact, I believe none of them are playing Disney characters and they are either completely original characters or characters from fairytales (that haven't been adapted by Disney) or other fictional stories.

      I agree that most of them are probably not based on Disney characters (mostly because there are not many Disney characters left to do, at least human ones that would fit well into Once), but I do think Mekia is Tiana, although I believe they may inturpet her more as the Princess from The Frog Prince, than the Disney movie Tiana.

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    • But they always introduce at least some Disney characters, mixing them with classic fairy tale characters, and also for more Disney recognition. Plus, The Princess and the Frog is a great movie.

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    • Jacinda means hyacinth/jacinth which are ancient words for the gemstone zircon but also refer to flowers. Henry's ex girlfriend was also named after a flower. I believe she may be related to Esmeralda which is Spanish for emerald which is a gemstone.

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    • What about this. Tiger Lily is a fairy and she said to Lucy that she must now find her mother, which means they know each other. What if Jacinda is a fairy. Her name means hyacinth which is a flower and Tinkerbell, Tiger Lily... are all named by flowers. What do you think about this

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    • Zalvukalic wrote: What about this. Tiger Lily is a fairy and she said to Lucy that she must now find her mother, which means they know each other. What if Jacinda is a fairy. Her name means hyacinth which is a flower and Tinkerbell, Tiger Lily... are all named by flowers. What do you think about this

      The fairies aren't really named after flowers. But she could be; however, I doubt that. That's like deja vu for TL (Fiona had a child...)

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      The fairies aren't really named after flowers. But she could be; however, I doubt that. That's like deja vu for TL (Fiona had a child...)

      The S6 finale did hint at the possibility, that Lucy's mother might be a fairy.


      As for my guesses:

      Gabrielle Anwar - Morgan Le Fay

      Dania Ramirez - Lucy's mother, a fairy

      Mekia Cox - Princess Tiana

      Adelaide Kane - Emma and Hook's daughter

      Rose Reynolds - Charlotte or Odette/Odile

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    • I don't want Adelaide be Emma and Hook's daughter if only because I don't like the idea of them missing out on raising her. :(

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    • Calibaz wrote:
      I don't want Adelaide be Emma and Hook's daughter if only because I don't like the idea of them missing out on raising her. :(

      Well, history loves repeating itself on OUaT.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Calibaz wrote:
      I don't want Adelaide be Emma and Hook's daughter if only because I don't like the idea of them missing out on raising her. :(
      Well, history loves repeating itself on OUaT.

      That is unfortunately very true.

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    • I (would like to) think it's highly unlikely that they'll throw together a Henry in his late 20s-early 30s, a Hook in his 30s, AND a CS kid in their 20s into the same "current" time period. That seems like a bit too much time-distorting when the focus is supposedly on Henry and his situation in the future. If they wanted to introduce a CS kid, I don't see why that character couldn't just appear in post-6x22 flashbacks as an actual child instead. 

      And in general, I personally don't think any of the announced actresses are any of the veteran mains' children grown-up. Like yes, they pulled the "weird time realm" thing with Gideon, but season 6 did not have something like "H/R/R not aged, while Henry's over a decade older" on top of that.

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    • Seeing that there maybe a connection between Frog Prince/Iron Henry and this season....hmmm....

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    • Calibaz wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Calibaz wrote:
      I don't want Adelaide be Emma and Hook's daughter if only because I don't like the idea of them missing out on raising her. :(
      Well, history loves repeating itself on OUaT.
      That is unfortunately very true.

      You want to know would make Adelaide Kane's character, being revealed as Emma and Hook's daughter, most ironic? Adam Croasdell, a.k.a. Papa Hook, played her third husband on Reign.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Seeing that there maybe a connection between Frog Prince/Iron Henry and this season....hmmm....

      With Henry Mills taking the place of Iron Henry, from the story.

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      I (would like to) think it's highly unlikely that they'll throw together a Henry in his late 20s-early 30s, a Hook in his 30s, AND a CS kid in their 20s into the same "current" time period. That seems like a bit too much time-distorting when the focus is supposedly on Henry and his situation in the future. If they wanted to introduce a CS kid, I don't see why that character couldn't just appear in post-6x22 flashbacks as an actual child instead. 

      And in general, I personally don't think any of the announced actresses are any of the veteran mains' children grown-up. Like yes, they pulled the "weird time realm" thing with Gideon, but season 6 did not have something like "H/R/R not aged, while Henry's over a decade older" on top of that.

      I agree. It's hard to imagine Hook, Rumpel and Regina being the only OG characters to have not aged. I would assume everyone in Storybrooke to be frozen in time, even if they don't all directly live in Hyperion Heights. This would allow all former cast members to appear in the present. Based on how the Black fairy used the curse, perhaps the new villain trapped some characters in Hyperion Heights, while others are frozen in another realm like Hook and Cora in the Enchanted Forest during the first curse.

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    • Now that we have new info, I have new guesses:

      Gabrielle - NEW Wicked Stepmother from Cinderella.

      Dania - NEW Cinderella. Confirmed.

      Adelaide - NEW Wicked Stepsister from Cinderella.

      Mekia - Tiana from Princess and the Frog, I still think that makes the most sense.

      Rose - NEW Rapunzel.

      (Not really sure how to differenciate the alternate takes on characters yet, so I'm using "NEW". I guess "Book 2" could also work.)

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Now that we have new info, I have new guesses:

      Gabrielle - NEW Wicked Stepmother from Cinderella.

      Dania - NEW Cinderella. Confirmed.

      Adelaide - NEW Wicked Stepsister from Cinderella.

      Mekia - Tiana from Princess and the Frog, I still think that makes the most sense.

      Rose - NEW Rapunzel.

      (Not really sure how to differenciate the alternate takes on characters yet, so I'm using "NEW". I guess "Book 2" could also work.)

      Even if it's not true, I would love to see the Tangled version of Rapunzel with Flynn Rider.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Now that we have new info, I have new guesses:

      Gabrielle - NEW Wicked Stepmother from Cinderella.

      Dania - NEW Cinderella. Confirmed.

      Adelaide - NEW Wicked Stepsister from Cinderella.

      Mekia - Tiana from Princess and the Frog, I still think that makes the most sense.

      Rose - NEW Rapunzel.

      (Not really sure how to differenciate the alternate takes on characters yet, so I'm using "NEW". I guess "Book 2" could also work.)

      Can one of the stepsisters just be Anastasia? They could actually "fix" a previous inconsistency with that one. xD 

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    • Well, we don't know if they are all new versions from the same story. We'd need to learn the names and other stuff before we assume that.

      Dania/Jacinda: Cinderella variation

      Gabrielle could easily be a variation on Maleficent or Evil Queen or Lady Tremaine.

      Adelaide could be a variation of Snow White or Stepsister.

      Anyhow, I do think we'd probably see some variation of top stories with some of these characters.

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    • With the revelation of one new character and implications of who the others may be, it goes back to my original concern when they first announced Season 7 will be reboot. That is will only one season do the story justice. I know many have said it's a soft reboot, but can it provide us with complete what happened and how this Cinderella (and it seems Hook too from EW article) be different from the ones we known. Who know what other characters be different.

      In an a funny maybe interesting note, I guess Dania's Cinderella will be like Selena Gomez's Cinderella. Both Latina, both played another version of Cinderella that differs from another version of Cinderella, and both weren't name exactly Cinderella. Gomez was Cinderella-ish in Another Cinderella Story. The reason for Another was there was another movie before it call A Cinderella Story starring Hillary Duff as the Cinderella-ish. In Another Cinderella Story, Gomez's younger character was played by Nicole Munoz, who as we know played Lily.

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    • I'm pretty sure Jacinda isn't like those variations of Cinderella. Just a big ol' hunch. XD

      One season could do it justice, but there's a potential for more. That's the proper business plan for everyone involved. Hypothetically, if Once was cancelled for season 8, then season 7 would be a complete story; if not, then Once could continue on without it feeling clunky.

      Only Jacinda has been confirmed to be a new variation of Cinderella, Hook is the exact same Hook, or at least, there is no confirmation he's anyone different, so that internet rumor needs to die as is.

      Lol, across the internet, people think Hook, Rumple, and Regina are playing new versions of theirselves, but that's incorrect. They have new cursed identities, but they are still the same Hook, Regina, Rumple we've known. Jacinda and all new variations of previously told stories will have completely different actors and stories. This isn't like the AU stuff we've seen. This is more akin to having two different people have the same Cinderella story and name. Like how we already had Briar Rose and Aurora (who were the fairytale version and Disney version). (It's like when people thought Henry was an AU Henry and then there would be Wish/AU Hook, etc and they really are overthinking things.)

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      I'm pretty sure Jacinda isn't like those variations of Cinderella. Just a big ol' hunch. XD

      Exactly.... I would not be surprised, if she is inspired by the Rogers and Hammerstein version Cinderella.

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    • I'm still confused here, how can there be two Cinderellas? Is this Alexandra, Cinderella's daughter?

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      Adelaide could be a variation of Snow White or Stepsister.

      Adelaide Kane playing a variation of Snow White, could work incredibly well. Especially, if she is also Emma and Hook's adult daughter. Since, Henry (who is the grandson of Snow White and Prince Charming) is the new Prince Charming from Cinderella

      OUaT's Aurora was the daughter of Briar Rose, and both of them were Sleeping Beauty. Meaning, the fairytale roles sometime stay within a family. 

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    • Anubis16 wrote:
      I'm still confused here, how can there be two Cinderellas? Is this Alexandra, Cinderella's daughter?

      Think of it like this. 

      There was girl named Ella. She lived a Cinderella story looslely based on Disney and the Itallian Cendrillion, as the sisters are Clorinda and Tisbe. Decades later, a girl named Jacinda (or something) lived a Cinderella life, but this was based on "So and So"'s version.

      There were two Sleeping Beauties since season 2. 

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      There were two Sleeping Beauties since season 2. 

      And two Little Mermaids and two Snow Queens in Season 4.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:

      There were two Sleeping Beauties since season 2. 

      And two Little Mermaids and two Snow Queens in Season 4.

      Yep. Plus, when there's like a new Cinderella movie every other year and like various stories similar to it, it was bound to happen. After all, things like a Wicked Stepmother/Evil Queen are rampant amongst the variations of fairytales.

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    • Eskaver wrote: After all, things like a Wicked Stepmother/Evil Queen are rampant amongst the variations of fairytales.

      Prince Charmings and Huntsmen are incredibly rampant, as well. 


      Updated guesses:

      Gabrielle Anwar - new Evil Queen/Stepmother/Fairy Godmother

      Dania Ramirez - new Cinderella (confirmed)

      Mekia Cox - Princess Tiana

      Adelaide Kane - new "Snow White" and Emma and Hook's daughter

      Rose Reynolds - new Rapunzel

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    • I was thinking given this new information could Tiger Lily be Cinderella's fairy godmother?

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    • Anubis16 wrote:
      I was thinking given this new information could Tiger Lily be Cinderella's fairy godmother?

      Yep. Fairies tend to be patrons of families and such, so very likely. At least, she doesn't have to worry about a murder-happy Dark One. XD

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      Yep. Fairies tend to be patrons of families and such, so very likely. At least, she doesn't have to worry about a murder-happy Dark One. XD

      That we know of ;) 

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    • Anubis16 wrote:
      I was thinking given this new information could Tiger Lily be Cinderella's fairy godmother?

      I'm pretty sure that was the implication at the end of Season 6, given that we now know Lucy is Cinderella's daughter.

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    • The official Instagram just posted six images making up a poster with hidden items in them and hints in the description:

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwH7B6gSKK/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "Wishes do come true!", something golden/orange??? (inside the O)

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGeXugZgl/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "If the shoe fits....", a glass slipper (inside the top angle of the N)

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGZSvA9SQ/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "Oh dear!", a white rabbit (towards the top of the taller building that is partially behind the tree)

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGTU1ALS_/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "We're positively glowing.", a glowing yellow flower (just above the cloud of fog in the window of the building closer to the POV)

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGI98gqRk/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "We're grinning with anticipation.", an orange cat (in the window of a building, level with top of the ABC logo and to the left)

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGDj1AOgi/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "We're hopping over to SDCC.", a frog (just left of the tree)

      So the glass slipper is clearly Cinderella. The yellow flower sure looks like the magic flower from Tangled, and the frog is likely referring to the Princess and the Frog (or at least the Frog Prince). Could the rabbit and cat be the White Rabbit and Cheshire Cat?

      If so, we might know the last few characters. Mekia is Tiana, Rose is Rapunzel II, and Adelaide is Alice II and/or Gabrielle is the Queen of Hearts II.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      The official Instagram just posted six images making up a poster with hidden items in them and hints in the description:

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwH7B6gSKK/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "Wishes do come true!", something golden/orange??? (inside the O)

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGeXugZgl/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "If the shoe fits....", a glass slipper (inside the top angle of the N)

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGZSvA9SQ/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "Oh dear!", a white rabbit (towards the top of the taller building that is partially behind the tree)

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGTU1ALS_/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "We're positively glowing.", a glowing yellow flower (just above the cloud of fog in the window of the building closer to the POV)

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGI98gqRk/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "We're grinning with anticipation.", an orange cat (in the window of a building, level with top of the ABC logo and to the left)

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGDj1AOgi/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "We're hopping over to SDCC.", a frog (just left of the tree)

      So the glass slipper is clearly Cinderella. The yellow flower sure looks like the magic flower from Tangled, and the frog is likely referring to the Princess and the Frog (or at least the Frog Prince). Could the rabbit and cat be the White Rabbit and Cheshire Cat?

      If so, we might know the last few characters. Mekia is Tiana, Rose is Rapunzel II, and Adelaide is Alice II.

      Can we talk how awesome it would be? :D

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwH7B6gSKK/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "Wishes do come true!", something golden/orange??? (inside the O)

      It is a pumpkin.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwH7B6gSKK/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "Wishes do come true!", something golden/orange??? (inside the O)

      It is a pumpkin.


      So, Cinderella :D

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:

      Gabrielle is the Queen of Hearts II.

      That would make sense.... or the Duchess of Wonderland.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:

      Gabrielle is the Queen of Hearts II.

      That would make sense.... or the Duchess of Wonderland.

      agh yes please but I don't want to get my hopes up

      She could also be Mother Gothel. Or, of course, Lady Tremaine is always still an option.

      If we're getting a focus on Cinderella and Alice in Wonderland, there's a certain someone who needs to come back.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:

      Gabrielle is the Queen of Hearts II.

      That would make sense.... or the Duchess of Wonderland.
      agh yes please but I don't want to get my hopes up

      She could also be Mother Gothel. Or, of course, Lady Tremaine is always still an option.

      If we're getting a focus on Cinderella and Alice in Wonderland, there's a certain someone who needs to come back.

      Or better yet.... the Duchess will take the place of both Mother Gothel and Lady Tramaine?

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:

      Gabrielle is the Queen of Hearts II.

      That would make sense.... or the Duchess of Wonderland.
      agh yes please but I don't want to get my hopes up

      She could also be Mother Gothel. Or, of course, Lady Tremaine is always still an option.

      If we're getting a focus on Cinderella and Alice in Wonderland, there's a certain someone who needs to come back.

      Or better yet.... the Duchess will take the place of both Mother Gothel and Lady Tramaine?

      Stop, I'm getting too optimistic!!

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    • As for Emma Rigby.... at this point, Anastasia would be the White Queen.

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    • Updated guesses:

      Gabrielle Anwar - new Evil Queen/Stepmother/Fairy Godmother

      Dania Ramirez - new Cinderella (confirmed)

      Mekia Cox - Princess Tiana

      Adelaide Kane - new "Snow White" and Emma and Hook's daughter

      Rose Reynolds - new Rapunzel

      New update: 

      Gabrielle Anwar - the Duchess of Wonderland

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:

      Gabrielle is the Queen of Hearts II.

      That would make sense.... or the Duchess of Wonderland.

      So Anwar could be Gothel, Lady Tremaine, or a Wonderland character. I'm leaning more towards Queen of Hearts II since she's one of the best known characters in Alice.

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    • Someone on Tumblr pointed out that Rose might make more sense as Alice rather than Rapunzel because of her accent. If that's the case, Adelaide could be Rapunzel post-haircut. Her hair is a little dark, maybe, though.

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    • Calibaz wrote:

      So Anwar could be Gothel, Lady Tremaine, or a Wonderland character. I'm leaning more towards Queen of Hearts II since she's one of the best known characters in Alice.

      She would essentially be all three.... this is OUaT, after all. While the Queen of Hearts is more famous, the Duchess would fit better in a Cinderella/Wonderland mashup. Cinderella's stepmother was a social-climber, in many versions. So, it would make more sense that she is a noblewoman, but not a queen. 

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Someone on Tumblr pointed out that Rose might make more sense as Alice rather than Rapunzel because of her accent. If that's the case, Adelaide could be Rapunzel post-haircut. Her hair is a little dark, maybe, though.

      Adelaide has an Australian accent, so that is a mute point. 

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    • I kind of see Anwar potentially being like what Regina was. A villain, but with potential to be good. And also being a combination of a few fairy tale villains. I feel she could very well be both gothel and tremaine, but with a different name to set her apart. 

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Someone on Tumblr pointed out that Rose might make more sense as Alice rather than Rapunzel because of her accent. If that's the case, Adelaide could be Rapunzel post-haircut. Her hair is a little dark, maybe, though.
      Adelaide has an Australian accent, so that is a mute point. 

      Even so, Adelaide could were a wig of extensions, like EF Snow White.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Someone on Tumblr pointed out that Rose might make more sense as Alice rather than Rapunzel because of her accent. If that's the case, Adelaide could be Rapunzel post-haircut. Her hair is a little dark, maybe, though.
      Adelaide has an Australian accent, so that is a mute point. 

      I assumed she wasn't referring to Rapunzel not having an accent but rather Alice usually having a British one. I don't actually know what accent Rose has, though.

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    • dont think she will be name lady tremaine but another name...and the queen of heart is already in the show....they will not do all the exact same story..only another storyon Cinderella...there is plenty of that kind... aurora and briar rose,elsa and Ingrid,and now ella and jacinda. I douth thre is a new snow white in the show since she is henry grandma! ............id like to see mother gothel,doc facilier,gouv radcliff and make ty<iger lily Pocahontas before to become a fairy , the horned king .

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    • Simfabulous wrote:
      dont think she will be name lady tremaine but another name...and the queen of heart is already in the show....they will not do all the exact same story..only another storyon Cinderella...there is plenty of that kind... aurora and briar rose,elsa and Ingrid,and now ella and jacinda. I douth thre is a new snow white in the show since she is henry grandma! ............id like to see mother gothel,doc facilier,gouv radcliff and make ty<iger lily Pocahontas before to become a fairy , the horned king .

      Pocahontas will likely not be included because she was a historical figure and not a fairy tale, and personally the Disney movie was a bit racist and definitely controversial so if they wanted to get the show cancelled they'd probably do it, lol. 

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:

      I assumed she wasn't referring to Rapunzel not having an accent but rather Alice usually having a British one. I don't actually know what accent Rose has, though.

      Rose Reynolds, from what I heard, is British. Though, she is still more likely to be Rapunzel. Having the Duchess as the villain, is similar to Cora being the Queen of Hearts. The character of Alice was irrelevent, to the story being told. Besides, in a way, Henry takes that role. He travels from the real world, to a place of magic and fairytales.

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    • JanzPotter wrote:
      Simfabulous wrote:
      dont think she will be name lady tremaine but another name...and the queen of heart is already in the show....they will not do all the exact same story..only another storyon Cinderella...there is plenty of that kind... aurora and briar rose,elsa and Ingrid,and now ella and jacinda. I douth thre is a new snow white in the show since she is henry grandma! ............id like to see mother gothel,doc facilier,gouv radcliff and make ty<iger lily Pocahontas before to become a fairy , the horned king .
      Pocahontas will likely not be included because she was a historical figure and not a fairy tale, and personally the Disney movie was a bit racist and definitely controversial so if they wanted to get the show cancelled they'd probably do it, lol. 

      Tiger Lily was more controversial than Pocahontas, lol. But that's kind of beside the point.

      I doubt Cinderella will be the only story redone. I agree Snow White is not likely but I think another Alice in Wonderland is (especially with these new hints) and if they're returning to Wonderland you have to have a Queen of Hearts (or a Red Queen, or a Duchess, but basically some form of an evil ruler).

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    • JanzPotter wrote:

      Simfabulous wrote:
      dont think she will be name lady tremaine but another name...and the queen of heart is already in the show....they will not do all the exact same story..only another storyon Cinderella...there is plenty of that kind... aurora and briar rose,elsa and Ingrid,and now ella and jacinda. I douth thre is a new snow white in the show since she is henry grandma! ............id like to see mother gothel,doc facilier,gouv radcliff and make ty<iger lily Pocahontas before to become a fairy , the horned king .

      Pocahontas will likely not be included because she was a historical figure and not a fairy tale, and personally the Disney movie was a bit racist and definitely controversial so if they wanted to get the show cancelled they'd probably do it, lol. 

      guess we will see ahah maybe shes just the Disney version of her ahaha
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    • also i dont think they will do wonderland as main ef place....OUATW wasnt a hit thought...

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:

      I assumed she wasn't referring to Rapunzel not having an accent but rather Alice usually having a British one. I don't actually know what accent Rose has, though.

      Rose Reynolds, from what I heard, is British. Though, she is still more likely to be Rapunzel. Having the Duchess as the villain, is similar to Cora being the Queen of Hearts. The character of Alice was irrelevent, to the story being told. Besides, in a way, Henry takes that role. He travels from the real world, to a place of magic and fairytales.

      You are correct, she is british. Look here.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:

      JanzPotter wrote:
      Simfabulous wrote:
      dont think she will be name lady tremaine but another name...and the queen of heart is already in the show....they will not do all the exact same story..only another storyon Cinderella...there is plenty of that kind... aurora and briar rose,elsa and Ingrid,and now ella and jacinda. I douth thre is a new snow white in the show since she is henry grandma! ............id like to see mother gothel,doc facilier,gouv radcliff and make ty<iger lily Pocahontas before to become a fairy , the horned king .
      Pocahontas will likely not be included because she was a historical figure and not a fairy tale, and personally the Disney movie was a bit racist and definitely controversial so if they wanted to get the show cancelled they'd probably do it, lol. 
      Tiger Lily was more controversial than Pocahontas, lol. But that's kind of beside the point.

      I doubt Cinderella will be the only story redone. I agree Snow White is not likely but I think another Alice in Wonderland is (especially with these new hints) and if they're returning to Wonderland you have to have a Queen of Hearts (or a Red Queen, or a Duchess, but basically some form of an evil ruler).

      Yes I doubt we'll see a new Snow White, but I would not be surprised if we see Snowing once or twice more. And agreed we'll need an evil ruler. I'm just trying to figure out how we'll get to wonderland. I can't imagine Cinderella being in wonderland.

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    • wish they will include cruella in fhashback if they include princess and the frog in new oleans1920...she can totally fit in :)

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    • Simfabulous wrote:
      wish they will include cruella in fhashback if they include princess and the frog in new oleans1920...she can totally fit in :)

      Except for the part where Cruella was in 1920 England. And Princess and the Frog would be New Orleans. 

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    • JanzPotter wrote:

      Simfabulous wrote:
      wish they will include cruella in fhashback if they include princess and the frog in new oleans1920...she can totally fit in :)

      Except for the part where Cruella was in 1920 England. And Princess and the Frog would be New Orleans. 

      maybe thats where she came with her car before she left for the EF...and thats why her car is in america;)

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    • Simfabulous wrote:

      JanzPotter wrote:

      Simfabulous wrote:
      wish they will include cruella in fhashback if they include princess and the frog in new oleans1920...she can totally fit in :)
      Except for the part where Cruella was in 1920 England. And Princess and the Frog would be New Orleans. 
      maybe thats where she came with her car before she left for the EF...and thats why her car is in america;)

      Interesting point. I personally love cruella and would like her to come back at some point. Or to make it work, Princess and the Frog could take place in a different location such as the EF or even England. All about changing things up....

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    • JanzPotter wrote:

      Simfabulous wrote:

      JanzPotter wrote:

      Simfabulous wrote:
      wish they will include cruella in fhashback if they include princess and the frog in new oleans1920...she can totally fit in :)
      Except for the part where Cruella was in 1920 England. And Princess and the Frog would be New Orleans. 
      maybe thats where she came with her car before she left for the EF...and thats why her car is in america;)

      Interesting point. I personally love cruella and would like her to come back at some point. Or to make it work, Princess and the Frog could take place in a different location such as the EF or even England. All about changing things up....

      same shes my favorite vilain and i sure they will find a way to include her

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    • JanzPotter wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:

      I assumed she wasn't referring to Rapunzel not having an accent but rather Alice usually having a British one. I don't actually know what accent Rose has, though.

      Rose Reynolds, from what I heard, is British. Though, she is still more likely to be Rapunzel. Having the Duchess as the villain, is similar to Cora being the Queen of Hearts. The character of Alice was irrelevent, to the story being told. Besides, in a way, Henry takes that role. He travels from the real world, to a place of magic and fairytales.
      You are correct, she is british. Look here.

      Thanks for the confirmation.

      It is worth noting.... despite Tangled's Rapunzel being a natural brunette, she is still marketed with blonde hair. Her hair grew back, and its powers restored, in the animated series. Besides, she could very well be inspired by the Into the Woods version.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      JanzPotter wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:

      I assumed she wasn't referring to Rapunzel not having an accent but rather Alice usually having a British one. I don't actually know what accent Rose has, though.

      Rose Reynolds, from what I heard, is British. Though, she is still more likely to be Rapunzel. Having the Duchess as the villain, is similar to Cora being the Queen of Hearts. The character of Alice was irrelevent, to the story being told. Besides, in a way, Henry takes that role. He travels from the real world, to a place of magic and fairytales.
      You are correct, she is british. Look here.
      Thanks for the confirmation.

      It is worth noting.... despite Tangled's Rapunzel being a natural brunette, she is still marketed with blonde hair. Her hair grew back, and its powers restored, in the animated series. Besides, she could very well be inspired by the Into the Woods version.

      If the golden flower is indeed a hint at Rapunzel, that pretty much guarantees that it's Disney's version. As far as I'm aware, the flower is original to Disney.

      I'm aware that Rapunzel in Disney has her golden hair 99% of the time, but the pictures we've seen of Adelaide so far are (presumably) her in the Land Without Magic. The Land Without Magic might de-magic her hair regardless of how she appears in the Enchanted Forest II.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Someone on Tumblr pointed out that Rose might make more sense as Alice rather than Rapunzel because of her accent. If that's the case, Adelaide could be Rapunzel post-haircut. Her hair is a little dark, maybe, though.
      Adelaide has an Australian accent, so that is a mute point. 

      Sophie Lowe (Alice) was Australian though, wasn't she? So Adelaide could be Alice.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:

      If the golden flower is indeed a hint at Rapunzel, that pretty much guarantees that it's Disney's version. As far as I'm aware, the flower is original to Disney.

      The flower was inspired by the cabbages, in the original story.

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    • I dont understand why lots of peaple think that they will do many new versions éécinderella is not ellas name... snow white...nop aurora...maybe briar rose backstory belle...nop ariel...maybe with th older godess Ursula jasmine nop mulan..complete her story rapunzel...maybe a tangled version with mother gothel and Flynn merida king arthur...nop or maybe morgan lefay and madam mim but without Arthur ect frozen...nop peter pan....dont think they can include onother peter pan after that hansel and gretel...maybe older jack...nop dont think they will do other version of villains we alredy saw

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      JanzPotter wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:

      I assumed she wasn't referring to Rapunzel not having an accent but rather Alice usually having a British one. I don't actually know what accent Rose has, though.

      Rose Reynolds, from what I heard, is British. Though, she is still more likely to be Rapunzel. Having the Duchess as the villain, is similar to Cora being the Queen of Hearts. The character of Alice was irrelevent, to the story being told. Besides, in a way, Henry takes that role. He travels from the real world, to a place of magic and fairytales.
      You are correct, she is british. Look here.
      Thanks for the confirmation.

      It is worth noting.... despite Tangled's Rapunzel being a natural brunette, she is still marketed with blonde hair. Her hair grew back, and its powers restored, in the animated series. Besides, she could very well be inspired by the Into the Woods version.

      It is also notable that in the original fairy tale, as recorded by the brother's grimm, the name "Gothel" is still used, however she is referred to as "Dame Gothel". A lot of things could still be taken from the original, or mashed up with the more modern disney version, as well as it's own ouat twists.

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    • Do we think that these characters will all have their own names or will they be the same? Like is the potential new Rapunzel going to have the same name as the old one or will she have a new name? Like do you think Jacinda is her name instead of Cinderella, or her LWM name? 

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Someone on Tumblr pointed out that Rose might make more sense as Alice rather than Rapunzel because of her accent. If that's the case, Adelaide could be Rapunzel post-haircut. Her hair is a little dark, maybe, though.
      Adelaide has an Australian accent, so that is a mute point. 
      Sophie Lowe (Alice) was Australian though, wasn't she? So Adelaide could be Alice.

      This is very true. Also, I've studied accents and British and Australian are actually very similar. 

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    • JanzPotter wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Someone on Tumblr pointed out that Rose might make more sense as Alice rather than Rapunzel because of her accent. If that's the case, Adelaide could be Rapunzel post-haircut. Her hair is a little dark, maybe, though.
      Adelaide has an Australian accent, so that is a mute point. 
      Sophie Lowe (Alice) was Australian though, wasn't she? So Adelaide could be Alice.
      This is very true. Also, I've studied accents and British and Australian are actually very similar. 

      Actually Sophie Lowe was born in Britain, but moved to Australia at age 10, so she prolly has a mushy accent

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    • Regardless of whether Adelaide Kane or Rose Reynolds is playing Rapunzel, we may have figured out how and why no one aged.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      The official Instagram just posted six images making up a poster with hidden items in them and hints in the description:

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwH7B6gSKK/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "Wishes do come true!", something golden/orange??? (inside the O)

      Pumpkin from Cinderella

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGeXugZgl/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "If the shoe fits....", a glass slipper (inside the top angle of the N)

      Glass Slipper from Cinderella

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGZSvA9SQ/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "Oh dear!", a white rabbit (towards the top of the taller building that is partially behind the tree)

      White Rabbit from Alice In Wonderland

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGTU1ALS_/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "We're positively glowing.", a glowing yellow flower (just above the cloud of fog in the window of the building closer to the POV)

      Flower/Plant from Rapunzel/Tangled

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGI98gqRk/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "We're grinning with anticipation.", an orange cat (in the window of a building, level with top of the ABC logo and to the left)

      Chesire Cat from Alice in Wonderland

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGDj1AOgi/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "We're hopping over to SDCC.", a frog (just left of the tree)

      Frog from The Frog Prince/The Princess and the Frog

      So the glass slipper is clearly Cinderella. The yellow flower sure looks like the magic flower from Tangled, and the frog is likely referring to the Princess and the Frog (or at least the Frog Prince). Could the rabbit and cat be the White Rabbit and Cheshire Cat?

      If so, we might know the last few characters. Mekia is Tiana, Rose is Rapunzel II, and Adelaide is Alice II and/or Gabrielle is the Queen of Hearts II.

      Bolded above what the clues/pics indicate. I'm 100% sure about all of these.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Regardless of whether Adelaide Kane or Rose Reynolds is playing Rapunzel, we may have figured out how and why no one aged.

      Ahhhh! That is so clever!

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    • JanzPotter wrote:
      Do we think that these characters will all have their own names or will they be the same? Like is the potential new Rapunzel going to have the same name as the old one or will she have a new name? Like do you think Jacinda is her name instead of Cinderella, or her LWM name? 

      Cinderella, Rapunzel, Alice, and Tiana will definitly keep there names. Everything else is up in the air. Jacinda is definitly a curse name.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:
      The official Instagram just posted six images making up a poster with hidden items in them and hints in the description:

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwH7B6gSKK/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "Wishes do come true!", something golden/orange??? (inside the O)

      Pumpkin from Cinderella

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGeXugZgl/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "If the shoe fits....", a glass slipper (inside the top angle of the N)

      Glass Slipper from Cinderella

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGZSvA9SQ/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "Oh dear!", a white rabbit (towards the top of the taller building that is partially behind the tree)

      White Rabbit from Alice In Wonderland

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGTU1ALS_/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "We're positively glowing.", a glowing yellow flower (just above the cloud of fog in the window of the building closer to the POV)

      Flower/Plant from Rapunzel/Tangled

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGI98gqRk/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "We're grinning with anticipation.", an orange cat (in the window of a building, level with top of the ABC logo and to the left)

      Chesire Cat from Alice in Wonderland

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BWwGDj1AOgi/?taken-by=onceabcofficial - "We're hopping over to SDCC.", a frog (just left of the tree)

      Frog from The Frog Prince/The Princess and the Frog

      So the glass slipper is clearly Cinderella. The yellow flower sure looks like the magic flower from Tangled, and the frog is likely referring to the Princess and the Frog (or at least the Frog Prince). Could the rabbit and cat be the White Rabbit and Cheshire Cat?

      If so, we might know the last few characters. Mekia is Tiana, Rose is Rapunzel II, and Adelaide is Alice II and/or Gabrielle is the Queen of Hearts II.

      Bolded above what the clues/pics indicate. I'm 100% sure about all of these.

      Definitely, especially with the wordplay clues, too.

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    • So I read an EW (I think? IDK and I don't have the link, sorry) article that had A&E saying Henry was going to travel to other storybooks and there would be some new characters and some alternate versions of characters we already know. To me, this sounds like potential for an alternate EQ since all 5 new people are female and I doubt A&E could resist. I'm not sure how I feel about that idea though. We already have 3 EQ's out there- Standard Regina, Serum Queen, and Wish Realm EQ- do we really need a 4th? I don't think we need to bring our "times the EQ has been a main villain" count up to 3. That feels like the ultimate lack of creativity. Still, as long as a potential alternate EQ isn't our main arc villain or a particularly prevalent character, I think I'd be ok with it. If one of our new recurring was an alternate EQ, as long as they didn't make her a super big deal I think it would be cool. Something similar to the level of Wish Robin? Plus, I want more Serum Queen and I feel like potential alternate EQ would detract from exploring her more.

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    • JanzPotter wrote:
      It is also notable that in the original fairy tale, as recorded by the brother's grimm, the name "Gothel" is still used, however she is referred to as "Dame Gothel". A lot of things could still be taken from the original, or mashed up with the more modern disney version, as well as it's own ouat twists.

      Exactly.... here the character may end up known as Lady Gothel, Duchess of "Suchensuch"

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    • i dont think Cinderella or ella will be her name because of the past ella ..same for lady tremaine

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    • I think I figured alot out, or at least have good guesses:

      Gabrielle - NEW Wicked Stepmother from Cinderella/Mother Gothel from Rapunzel/Dutchess from Wonderland. Curse name: Eve (Similar sound to Evil). 

      Dania - NEW Cinderella. Curse name: Jacinda (Has "Cind" in it).

      Adelaide - NEW Alice. Curse name: Carol (Similar to last name of Wonderland's author).

      Mekia - Tiana from Princess and the Frog. Curse name: Frieda (Similar sound to Frog).

      Rose - NEW Rapunzel. Curse name: Harriet (Has "Hair" sound and letters in it).

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    • Am I the only one who does think there will be an new Alice? Mainly, due to Henry playing a very similar role. 

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    • Who do we think Vladimir is playing, btw? I don't see him fitting any of the male roles in Cinderella, Rapunzel, or The Frog Prince (especially if those last two are mostly pulling from the Disney versions), which just leaves Wonderland characters.

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    • Theory: In the original Rapunzel tale, Rapunzel is taken from a mother and father who live near the witch. What if Rapunzel is Hook and Emma's kid. Somehow she would have had to age quicker, but that hasn't stopped Adam and Eddy before. Or Rapunzel could be someone else from the show's child, I just have a feeling she could be from Hook and Emma, or maybe even she is baby Robin?

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:

      Adelaide - NEW Alice. Curse name: Carol (Similar to last name of Wonderland's author).

      That girl from the audition tape for "Carol" did read from a Jefferson excerpt....... And she does look around the same age as Adelaide. Hmmm.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      I think I figured alot out, or at least have good guesses:

      Gabrielle - NEW Wicked Stepmother from Cinderella/Mother Gothel from Rapunzel/Dutchess from Wonderland. Curse name: Eve (Similar sound to Evil). 

      Dania - NEW Cinderella. Curse name: Jacinda (Has "Cind" in it).

      Adelaide - NEW Alice. Curse name: Carol (Similar to last name of Wonderland's author).

      Mekia - Tiana from Princess and the Frog. Curse name: Frieda (Similar sound to Frog).

      Rose - NEW Rapunzel. Curse name: Harriet (Has "Hair" sound and letters in it).

      I agree with Carol, but the other ones just seem to be wild guesses. And Jacinda of course, since it's pretty confirmed. 

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Who do we think Vladimir is playing, btw? I don't see him fitting any of the male roles in Cinderella, Rapunzel, or The Frog Prince (especially if those last two are mostly pulling from the Disney versions), which just leaves Wonderland characters.

      Who is Vladimir? Sorry I must've missed that.

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:

      Adelaide - NEW Alice. Curse name: Carol (Similar to last name of Wonderland's author).

      That girl from the audition tape for "Carol" did read from a Jefferson excerpt....... And she does look around the same age as Adelaide. Hmmm.

      Also, dark hair, like Adelaide.

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    • JanzPotter wrote:
      Theory: In the original Rapunzel tale, Rapunzel is taken from a mother and father who live near the witch. What if Rapunzel is Hook and Emma's kid. Somehow she would have had to age quicker, but that hasn't stopped Adam and Eddy before. 

      I was just thinking the same thing!

      Especially, since Tangled's Rapunzel was a lost princess. A big part of the story, was her parents hoping she would find her way home. Emma Swan is a princess by birth, and her children would be considered royalty in the Enchanted Forest. Henry is now Prince Charming. So, his half-sister could easily be Rapunzel.

      Man, this family tree is nuts!

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    • JanzPotter wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Who do we think Vladimir is playing, btw? I don't see him fitting any of the male roles in Cinderella, Rapunzel, or The Frog Prince (especially if those last two are mostly pulling from the Disney versions), which just leaves Wonderland characters.
      Who is Vladimir? Sorry I must've missed that.

      This guy. https://twitter.com/yvrshoots/status/886077534697209857

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      JanzPotter wrote:
      Theory: In the original Rapunzel tale, Rapunzel is taken from a mother and father who live near the witch. What if Rapunzel is Hook and Emma's kid. Somehow she would have had to age quicker, but that hasn't stopped Adam and Eddy before. 
      I was just thinking the same thing!

      Especially, since Tangled's Rapunzel was a lost princess. A big part of the story, was her parents hoping she would find her way home. Emma Swan is a princess by birth, and her children would be considered royalty in the Enchanted Forest. Henry is now Prince Charming. So, his half-sister could easily be Rapunzel. Man, this family tree is nuts!

      Do you think Henry is the prince that saves Rapunzel and there is no Flynn Ryder? Maybe they could give Flynn an even Darker Story...

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    • JanzPotter wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Who do we think Vladimir is playing, btw? I don't see him fitting any of the male roles in Cinderella, Rapunzel, or The Frog Prince (especially if those last two are mostly pulling from the Disney versions), which just leaves Wonderland characters.
      Who is Vladimir? Sorry I must've missed that.

      Vladimir is an actor who was spotted on set during Hyperion Heights filming.

      We haven't seen him back, have we? I'm starting to think he's just a one-off character. He could still play Dr. Facilier if they decide against making him black. He might be able to play Flynn or Naveen... I don't know, though. I don't have any ideas of Wonderland characters, either.

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    • JanzPotter wrote:

      Do you think Henry is the prince that saves Rapunzel and there is no Flynn Ryder? 

      Why not.... the love between siblings, would be a nice change of pace. 

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    • I could see him being a darker version of Flynn. One that maybe doesn't save Rapunzel? Instead Henry saves her? Then maybe Flynn and Rapunzel are like the new Belle and Gold? Lol just some crazy theorizing.

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    • Maybe that men is time from wonderland

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      JennaMae wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:

      Adelaide - NEW Alice. Curse name: Carol (Similar to last name of Wonderland's author).

      That girl from the audition tape for "Carol" did read from a Jefferson excerpt....... And she does look around the same age as Adelaide. Hmmm.
      Also, dark hair, like Adelaide.

      Although, perhaps Adelaide Kane is Rapunzel?

      She was one seen filming with Gabrielle Anwar, and her outfit has flowers on it. It could explain, why neither she nor Rose Reynolds is scheduled, to be as SDCC. The producers might want to keep it a secret, as to which actress is playing which character.

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    • Simfabulous wrote:
      Maybe that men is time from wonderland

      Or Maybe a new Mad Hatter!

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    • JanzPotter wrote:
      I could see him being a darker version of Flynn. One that maybe doesn't save Rapunzel? Instead Henry saves her? Then maybe Flynn and Rapunzel are like the new Belle and Gold? Lol just some crazy theorizing.

      Or Flynn Rider/Eugene Fitz-Herbert could be a regular guy, from the LWM?

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:

      Although, perhaps Adelaide Kane is Rapunzel?

      She was one seen filming with Gabrielle Anwar, and her outfit has flowers on it. It could explain, why neither she nor Rose Reynolds is scheduled, to be as SDCC. The producers might want to keep it a secret, as to which actress is playig which character.

      Definitely possible!

      I do think they'll likely reveal all 4 of the "mystery characters" at SDCC though, since all the obvious teases have gone up on the instagram account. They need to start giving some more real info. This is totally not the year for all of the actors to be going around insisting that they can't say anything xD 

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    • JanzPotter wrote:

      Simfabulous wrote:
      Maybe that men is time from wonderland

      Or Maybe a new Mad Hatter!

      Maybe ...but I dont think they will so a new version of every caracters Lol maybe only new version of caracters that they havnt DONe well as cinderella or rapunzel

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    • I'm excited about the possibility of Tangled and the Princess and the Frog/The Frog Prince being on the show as well as the second version of Cinderella and Alice in Wonderland. As of right now, I'm guessing that Rose will play Rapunzel, Mekia will play Tiana (assuming they're going the Disney route , Gabrielle will play the Wicked Stepmother, and Adelaide will play Alice.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      JennaMae wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:

      Adelaide - NEW Alice. Curse name: Carol (Similar to last name of Wonderland's author).

      That girl from the audition tape for "Carol" did read from a Jefferson excerpt....... And she does look around the same age as Adelaide. Hmmm.
      Also, dark hair, like Adelaide.
      Although, perhaps Adelaide Kane is Rapunzel?

      She was one seen filming with Gabrielle Anwar, and her outfit has flowers on it. It could explain, why neither she nor Rose Reynolds is scheduled, to be as SDCC. The producers might want to keep it a secret, as to which actress is playing which character.

      Hmmm... Rose looks more like Disney's Alice (and is British), but she looks a lot like Disney's Rapunzel (when she has blonde hair) too. But I guess Adelaide could fill either of those roles as well. It is worth noting, however, Alice in Wonderland also has flowers ("All in the Golden Afternoon" and also "Who's been painting the roses red?") in the book/movie.

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    • JennaMae wrote:

      I do think they'll likely reveal all 4 of the "mystery characters" at SDCC though.  

      I am sure Gabrielle Anwar and Mekia Cox's characters will be revealed. However, while they will reveal the other two character. They will likely keep it secret as to who is playing whom. Especially, if Rapunzel turns out to be Henry's half-sister.

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    • Really off the wall theory: could Adelaide be Alice and Cyrus's daughter? She definitly has the looks, and assuming Alice got pregnant right after her wedding somewhere in Season 2, and we are about 18 years later from then, Adelaide would be the right age as well. I don't know if they would have named her Alice then though, so I suggest Louisa (after Lewis Carol). She would still fill the role of Alice for NEW Wonderland, by the way.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:

      But I guess Adelaide could fill either of those roles as well. It is worth noting, however, Alice in Wonderland also has flowers ("All in the Golden Afternoon" and also "Who's been painting the roses red?") in the book/movie.

      Except, that Adelaide's costume is mainly pink. The same color Rapunzel wore after her hair was cut. 


      Guesses:

      Gabrielle Anwar - Duchess of Wonderland, Wicked Stepmother, and Mother Gothel

      Mekia Cox - Princess Tiana

      Adelaide Kane - Rapunzel (and possibly Henry's half-sister)

      Rose Reynolds - Cinderella's Stepsister or Alice

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:

      But I guess Adelaide could fill either of those roles as well. It is worth noting, however, Alice in Wonderland also has flowers ("All in the Golden Afternoon" and also "Who's been painting the roses red?") in the book/movie.

      Except, that Adelaide's costume is mainly pink. The same color Rapunzel wore after her hair was cut. 

      Hmm... That's a pretty good point. I'm not sure how Adelaide will look in a giant blonde wig, but I suppose any of the actresses, even if they are a natural blonde, are going to look kind of weird in that. XD

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:

      I'm not sure how Adelaide will look in a giant blonde wig, but I suppose any of the actresses, even if they are a natural blonde, are going to look kind of weird in that. XD

      Probably, similar to the Into the Woods Rapunzel. Who oddly enough, wore a pink gown. 

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    • So, Mekia is a safe bet for Tiana.

      I think Adelaide will portray Alice, because we've already had the Disney version with Sophie, so I think now her Alice will be adapted more from the books. 

      Thus, Rose will probably play Rapunzel, this time based on the Disney movie.

      I like the theory of Gabrielle being a mix of Stepmother and Mother Gothel! 

      Vladimir, I still stick to the theory of him being Naveen or Facilier, but I'm not convinced. 

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    • Actually, Rose is the British girl so she could play Alice.

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    • AlbOuat wrote:
      So, Mekia is a safe bet for Tiana.

      I think Adelaide will portray Alice, because we've already had the Disney version with Sophie, so I think now her Alice will be adapted more from the books. 

      Thus, Rose will probably play Rapunzel, this time based on the Disney movie.

      I like the theory of Gabrielle being a mix of Stepmother and Mother Gothel! 

      Vladimir, I still stick to the theory of him being Naveen or Facilier, but I'm not convinced. 

      I totally agree with this and I think Vladimir will be Facilier.

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    • I agree with the overall thoughts. Actually, I think we've got it!

      Gabrielle could easily be a "Duchess" named "Gothel" that encountered "Alice" (Rose) and kidnapped "Rapunzel" (Adelaide) while eventually marrying Cinderella's (Dania's) father.

      Adelaide will be a more Disney-esque looking Rapunzel, probably with the fairytale origin of not being a princess already. She did have short, brown hair, so....sort of.

      Rose is British, so that's already a good enough thought to make her Alice. But her and Adelaide could switch, but I doubt it.

      Mekia is pretty much Tiana. Don't know how she's at all involved with the rest of the bunch unless they FTL Tiana and toss her as a servant ot something for Gabrielle.

      So, we have Alice 2, Rapunzel 2, Cinderella 2 with a few new ones. I guess it's cool. Maybe Henry's the prince in all the stories, lol. XD

      Gabrielle doesn't necessarily have to be in everyone's story, though. A neat tie-in is that Corona (Tangled) is the Kingdom of the Sun (well in the symbology) and Hyperion is often described as the All-seeing, ever-watching Sun.

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    • Rwo

      I speculate on Rose Reynolds playing Anita Radcliffe (Perdita's owner from "101 Dalmatians") at the Radcliffe Pet Day SPA spotted in New Westminster.

      CoolDudeAl wrote: Really off the wall theory: could Adelaide be Alice and Cyrus's daughter? She definitly has the looks, and assuming Alice got pregnant right after her wedding somewhere in Season 2, and we are about 18 years later from then, Adelaide would be the right age as well. I don't know if they would have named her Alice then though, so I suggest Louisa (after Lewis Carol). She would still fill the role of Alice for NEW Wonderland, by the way.

      Now I see Gabrielle Anwar as older Alice XD

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    • On the Instagram comments, some speculated that what we think is the Chesire Cat is actually an owl. Merlin's perhaps? (It kinda looks both a cat and an owl lol)

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    • AlbOuat wrote:
      On the Instagram comments, some speculated that what we think is the Chesire Cat is actually an owl. Merlin's perhaps? (It kinda looks both a cat and an owl lol)

      This is a cat, especially with that hint.

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      Mekia is pretty much Tiana. Don't know how she's at all involved with the rest of the bunch unless they FTL Tiana and toss her as a servant ot something for Gabrielle.

      Tiana could be Cinderella's best friend, and/or a "rival" princess. The flashbacks seem to be shaping up as OUaT's tribute to Into the Woods.... the granddaddy of twisted fairytale mashups. Henry could have easily met Cinderella, after her prince left her for someone else. 

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    • I agree with the general comments, although I don't want to see a new Alice. Are there any other characters from Alice in Wonderland that would fit the bill?

      I have to admit when I first saw Adelaide on set, my mind went immediately to Alice. So I think, Adelaide will play Alice and Rose wiil play Rapunzel. Tiana makes the most sense for Mekia. For Gabrielle, I have no idea.

      Any idea of when they will anounce these characters? Like what day of Comic Con the Once Upon a TIme panel is?

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      AlbOuat wrote:
      On the Instagram comments, some speculated that what we think is the Chesire Cat is actually an owl. Merlin's perhaps? (It kinda looks both a cat and an owl lol)
      This is a cat, especially with that hint.

      Lucifer the cat.

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    • OUAT: The Darkness wrote:
      I agree with the general comments, although I don't want to see a new Alice. Are there any other characters from Alice in Wonderland that would fit the bill?

      I have to admit when I first saw Adelaide on set, my mind went immediately to Alice. So I think, Adelaide will play Alice and Rose wiil play Rapunzel. Tiana makes the most sense for Mekia. For Gabrielle, I have no idea.

      Any idea of when they will anounce these characters? Like what day of Comic Con the Once Upon a TIme panel is?

      Nevermind found out it wasn't until Saturday.

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    • Rwo wrote:
      I speculate on Rose Reynolds playing Anita Radcliffe (Perdita's owner from "101 Dalmatians") at the Radcliffe Pet Day SPA spotted in New Westminster.

      It is very possible.... we need to remember, that Rose Reynolds does not have many credits, to her name. So, she could very well be a "glorified extra"

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      AlbOuat wrote:
      On the Instagram comments, some speculated that what we think is the Chesire Cat is actually an owl. Merlin's perhaps? (It kinda looks both a cat and an owl lol)
      This is a cat, especially with that hint.
      Lucifer the cat.

      Wait so is the cat supposed to be Lucifer or the Cheshire  Cat?

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    • JanzPotter wrote:

      Wait so is the cat supposed to be Lucifer or the Cheshire  Cat?

      Probably Lucifer from Cinderella.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      JanzPotter wrote:

      Wait so is the cat supposed to be Lucifer or the Cheshire  Cat?

      Probably Lucifer from Cinderella.

      See since the written hint says "grinning" I immediately thought of the Cheshire Cat, because his grin is iconic. To me, Lucifer's isn't nearly as iconic.

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    • JanzPotter wrote:

      See since the written hint says "grinning" I immediately thought of the Cheshire Cat, because his grin is iconic. To me, Lucifer's isn't nearly as iconic.

      So.... just because one immediately thinks something, does not meant that will be correct. 

      Just yesterday we all assumed Rose Reynolds, would be playing Rapunzel, because of her blonde hair. However, now most of us think, Adelaide Kane is actually Rapunzel. While, Gabrielle Anwar might end up playing the Duchess. That is probably where the Wonderland tie-in ends.... for now. 

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    • Yeah I mean it doesn't really matter what the hint is, they all clearly mean Wonderland, Cinderella, Rapunzel and Frog Prince/Princess & the Frog. Like either way, we are still getting both of them. 

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    • So with 6 clues, does this mean six major new characters? Not all of them regular, just highly recurring.

      First is Cinderella (played by Dania), obviously due to the shoe.

      Second is Rapunzel (played by Adelaide), due to the flower.

      Third is Alice (played by Rose), due to the rabbit.

      Fourth is Tiana (played by Mekia), due to the frog.

      Fifth is definitely another Cinderella character (likely Gabrielle), due to the pumpkin.

      So who is Sixth? The clue is the owl/cat/not sure. Possibly the character played by Vlamidir.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      So with 6 clues, does this mean six major new characters? Not all of them regular, just highly recurring.

      First is Cinderella (played by Dania), obviously due to the shoe.

      Second is Rapunzel (played by Adelaide), due to the flower.

      Third is Alice (played by Rose), due to the rabbit.

      Fourth is Tiana (played by Mekia), due to the frog.

      Fifth is definitely another Cinderella character (likely Gabrielle), due to the pumpkin.

      So who is Sixth? The clue is the owl/cat/not sure. Possibly the character played by Vlamidir.

      The Pumpkin/Gabrielle would be Tremaine/Stepmother. And possibly conbined with Gothel and Duchess. I don't think Vlad is the 6th just because the cat/owl probably means either Cinderella or Wonderland. And Vlad is probably a character from Princess and the Frog or Rapunzel. 

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      Not all of them regular, just highly recurring.

      Highly recurring could just mean, being like the Dwarfs or Granny. Not everyone, despite being a fairytale character, plays a significant role to the story.

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    • I feel like they want to only repeat characters that did not have a strong enough role before. Like Cinderella and Rapunzel who had very few episodes, so if they are to re-do other characters it would only be ones with a small number of appearances. 

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    • JanzPotter wrote:
      I feel like they want to only repeat characters that did not have a strong enough role before. Like Cinderella and Rapunzel who had very few episodes, so if they are to re-do other characters it would only be ones with a small number of appearances. 

      Completely agree.... which is also why, I do not think Alice is being redone. While, not many people watched the spinoff, the creators were probably satisfied with how the storyline turned out. 

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    • Yeah, but that is the only reason why they might do Alice. Because she was only on the spinoff and not as many viewers are familiar with the spin off. 

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    • I seriously doubt that the cat is referring to Lucifer. There are already two hints to Cinderella and the description referring to grinning does not make any sense in any context besides the Cheshire Cat.

      I considered the possibility that each of the pictures corresponds to a single character, but I kind of hope not because I'm still against the idea of the main villain (Gabrielle) being the wicked stepmother of the female lead (and she's the only second Cinderella character option, unless, I suppose, Vladimir is playing a Cinderella character). It's too similar to Regina. If she's playing the role of the Queen of Hearts, the Duchess, or Mother Gothel, there's more room for some deviation in her relationship with Cindy and Henry. Furthermore, if she plays the Queen of Hearts, that sets up an interesting connection with Regina because she is the alternate version of Regina's mother.

      Wait.... on the train of thought of Vladimir being the second Cinderella character, that could mean Gabrielle corresponds to the cat. In the book, the Cheshire Cat was the Duchess's pet. This could make sense. Or perhaps the sixth picture, the pumpkin, refers to Tiger Lily, the Fairy Godmother.

      I think there's an even chance of Rose or Adelaide playing Alice or Rapunzel. But whichever role Adelaide is playing will likely correspond

      So here are my guesses:

      • Dania Ramirez as Cinderella II
      • Gabrielle Anwar as Queen of Hearts II or Mother Gothel
      • Mekia Cox as Tiana
      • Adelaide Kane as Alice II or Rapunzel II
      • Rose Reynolds as Rapunzel II or Alice II
      • Vladimir Ruzich as Dr. Facilier

      If the pictures correspond to characters, I have a secondary guess list:

      • Vladimir Ruzich as ??? (pumpkin) or Sara Tomko as the Fairy Godmother (pumpkin)
      • Dania Ramirez as Cinderella II (slipper)
      • Adelaide Kane as Alice II (white rabbit) or Rapunzel II (flower)
      • Rose Reynolds as Rapunzel II (flower) or Alice II (white rabbit)
      • Gabrielle Anwar as the Duchess (cat)
      • Mekia Cox as Tiana (frog)
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    • JanzPotter wrote:
      Yeah, but that is the only reason why they might do Alice. Because she was only on the spinoff and not as many viewers are familiar with the spin off. 

      I would imagine, and hope, that Adam and Eddy are looking at this from a creative standpoint. Both Cinderella and Rapunzel, were characters with underwhelming stories, on OUaT. Heck, The Tower was universally trashed and completely pointless. 

      Wonderland seems to meld better with OUaT, when they show uses side characters. The Mad Hatter and the Queen of Hearts both served significant roles, while they were on. It is not like OUaT can use the American McGee version of Alice. Since, that is not in the public domain. Though, the spinoff did pay tribute to it, by having Alice start out in an asylum. 

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:

      So here are my guesses:

      • Vladimir Ruzich as Dr. Facilier

      If the pictures correspond to characters, I have a secondary guess list:

      • Vladimir Ruzich as ??? (pumpkin) or Sara Tomko as the Fairy Godmother (pumpkin)

      Have you (or anyone else) considered, that Vladimir Ruzich is playing the Grand Duke ?

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DatNuttyKid wrote:

      So here are my guesses:

      • Vladimir Ruzich as Dr. Facilier

      If the pictures correspond to characters, I have a secondary guess list:

      • Vladimir Ruzich as ??? (pumpkin) or Sara Tomko as the Fairy Godmother (pumpkin)
      Have you (or anyone else) considered, that Vladimir Ruzich is playing the Grand Duke ?

      That or the person who is hosting the ball that Jacinda is going to, lol. I just see the Vladimir and think Russian. XD

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    • Vladimir could also maybe be Cinderella's prince, like who she's expected to end up with, but somehow she ends up with Henry. 

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote: Have you (or anyone else) considered, that Vladimir Ruzich is playing the Grand Duke ?
      That or the person who is hosting the ball that Jacinda is going to, lol. I just see the Vladimir and think Russian. XD

      Russia used the title Grand Duke/Duchess for the children, who were not heir to the thone, of the Tsar. This guy is totally playing the Grand Duke from Cinderella.

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    • Here are my theories....

      Gabrielle Anwar is Mother Gothel 

      Adelaide Kane is Rapunzel 2

      Mekia Cox is Tiana 

      Rose Reynolds is Alice 2

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    • Look like a into the Wood season 😂

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    • Simfabulous wrote:
      Look like a into the Wood season 😂

      There's a lot of elements missing for it to be like into the woods. The only similarities are Cinderella and Rapunzel...

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Rwo wrote:
      I speculate on Rose Reynolds playing Anita Radcliffe (Perdita's owner from "101 Dalmatians") at the Radcliffe Pet Day SPA spotted in New Westminster.
      It is very possible.... we need to remember, that Rose Reynolds does not have many credits, to her name. So, she could very well be a "glorified extra"

      I think she is somewhat important, she was announced as being cast, and while you have a slight point with the credit thing, they cast Elizabeth Lail as Anna from Frozen, and she had no professional acting credits.

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    • I like the idea of the villain being a fusion of characters, and I think Gothel would have loved to freeze time to keep herself from aging. She may have lived for a long time constantly finding new ways of staying young and possibly maintaining multiple identities across different worlds.

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    • RavenQuartz wrote:
      I like the idea of the villain being a fusion of characters, and I think Gothel would have loved to freeze time to keep herself from aging. She may have lived for a long time constantly finding new ways of staying young and possibly maintaining multiple identities across different worlds.

      Yep. Although I dislike direct copying from Disney, they could have the tale's elements of the magical flower being stolen and being embedded inside Rapunzel. With the hair cut short (if Adeliade is playing her), she could have plenty reason to go for the curse. Although, who does she love most? (If we are going by the earlier curses).

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      RavenQuartz wrote:
      I like the idea of the villain being a fusion of characters, and I think Gothel would have loved to freeze time to keep herself from aging. She may have lived for a long time constantly finding new ways of staying young and possibly maintaining multiple identities across different worlds.
      Yep. Although I dislike direct copying from Disney, they could have the tale's elements of the magical flower being stolen and being embedded inside Rapunzel. With the hair cut short (if Adeliade is playing her), she could have plenty reason to go for the curse. Although, who does she love most? (If we are going by the earlier curses).

      Closest I can think of is the magical flower. Maybe a new one grew and she sacrificed that to cast the curse.

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    • If we think each picture represents one character, I think it is, with reasoning:

      Pumpkin - Fairy Godmother, which should be Tiger Lily, based on Season 6's finale - one of the main feats she did was turn the pumkin into a carriage, also a pumpkin is orange, just like a tiger lily.

      Glass Slipper - Cinderella - item used to find Cinderella, after leaving it behind.

      White Rabbit - Alice - follows him into Wonderland.

      "Sun" Flower - Rapunzel - gives her hair it's magical powers.

      Chesire Cat - Dutchess - her pet.

      Frog - Tiana - has to kiss one.

      Which says to me that those six characters will be pretty important, and probably played by Sara, Dania, Adelaide, Rose, Gabrielle, and Mekia, respectivly. Sara of course was not announced as she was already cast last season. I also think the Dutchess will double as Cinderella's stepmother and Mother Gothel.

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    • Also, I know they aren't really being discussed currently, but since people keep bringing up Into the Woods, do we think the stepsisters names will be Florinda and Lucinda?

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:

      "Sun" Flower - Rapunzel - gives her hair it's magical powers.

      Agreed with the rest. Plus, on this note, the flower could be called "Rapunzel'. (Thought about those blue flowers in the Jacinda and Henry photo, lol.)

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Also, I know they aren't really being discussed currently, but since people keep bringing up Into the Woods, do we think the stepsisters names will be Florinda and Lucinda?

      Could be, but I guess it depends on if the stepmother has daughters (we haven't seen them yet and I guess they could be dead). Probably wouldn't with the Lucinda and Lucy, XD

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Also, I know they aren't really being discussed currently, but since people keep bringing up Into the Woods, do we think the stepsisters names will be Florinda and Lucinda?

      Well, this Cinderella might be known as Jacinda. Which is similar to the Into the Woods stepsisters' names.

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    • so we are probably going to sa new sep mother et sisters,mother gothel and a vilain from wonderland...if we see princess and the frog probably facilier...Wonder if we will se a new male vilain....I think the horned king could perfectly team up with facilier

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    • Simfabulous wrote:
      f we see princess and the frog probably facilier...Wonder if we will se a new male vilain....

      Quick question.... is Dr. Facilier needed to turn Tiana into a frog, when Rumplestiltskin is still on the show?

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Simfabulous wrote:
      f we see princess and the frog probably facilier...Wonder if we will se a new male vilain....
      Quick question.... is Dr. Facilier needed to turn Tiana into a frog, when Rumplestiltskin is still on the show?

      Depends on how Disney they're going. If it's like their adaptation of Frozen and Brave, yes. If it's like their adaptation of The Little Mermaid and Aladdin, no.

      Although even if it's not Facilier, I doubt it will be Rumple. It'd be a shame for his heroic ending to be completely undone and this is also apparently a different Enchanted Forest. Although... maybe Facilier could play the role of Rumple in the Enchanted Forest II and have a hand in everything? Or would that make more sense for Gabrielle's character?

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:

      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Simfabulous wrote:
      f we see princess and the frog probably facilier...Wonder if we will se a new male vilain....
      Quick question.... is Dr. Facilier needed to turn Tiana into a frog, when Rumplestiltskin is still on the show?

      Depends on how Disney they're going. If it's like their adaptation of Frozen and Brave, yes. If it's like their adaptation of The Little Mermaid and Aladdin, no.

      Although even if it's not Facilier, I doubt it will be Rumple. It'd be a shame for his heroic ending to be completely undone and this is also apparently a different Enchanted Forest. Although... maybe Facilier could play the role of Rumple in the Enchanted Forest II and have a hand in everything? Or would that make more sense for Gabrielle's character?

      when they say a new EF a think they talk about time lol been a few years ...i hope soéééand i think there is a lot to do with facilier and his power lol

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Simfabulous wrote:
      f we see princess and the frog probably facilier...Wonder if we will se a new male vilain....
      Quick question.... is Dr. Facilier needed to turn Tiana into a frog, when Rumplestiltskin is still on the show?

      I think he would still show up in some capacity. Disney villains are too fun to not show up at all.

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    • What if Vladimir plays the new Mad Hatter?

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      What if Vladimir plays the new Mad Hatter?


      Maybe he's both the Mad Hatter and Facilier, I mean they both wear a hat.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      What if Vladimir plays the new Mad Hatter?

      I am sticking with him playing the Grand Duke from Cinderella.

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    • With this speculation about an older Alice for Rose, don't you find that on some pictures Gabrielle's facial features are really very similar to those of Anastasia ? 

      Also she is British, and with the clues on Wonderland and possibility that Ana could hold a link with Cinderella, I don't want to go too far on false tracks, but I really hope a cross-over with the characters from OUATIW.

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    • Kurobator wrote:
      With this speculation about an older Alice for Rose, don't you find that on some pictures Gabrielle's facial features are really very similar to those of Anastasia ? 

      Also she is British, and with the clues on Wonderland and possibility that Ana could hold a link with Cinderella, I don't want to go too far on false tracks, but I really hope a cross-over with the characters from OUATIW.

      From what I heard and read, Emma Rigby is not interested in returning. She is more focused on philanthropy than acting these days. Besides, this version of Cinderella takes place in the future. 

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    • Kurobator wrote: With this speculation about an older Alice for Rose, don't you find that on some pictures Gabrielle's facial features are really very similar to those of Anastasia ? 

      Also she is British, and with the clues on Wonderland and possibility that Ana could hold a link with Cinderella, I don't want to go too far on false tracks, but I really hope a cross-over with the characters from OUATIW.

      However, Ana's days of villainy should be over. I think she'll be original, otherwise, they would really have to retcon or recap non Wonderland viewers. I mean, see how shallow Jafar was, despite Oded Fehr's acting.

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      I mean, see how shallow Jafar was, despite Oded Fehr's acting.

      OUaT truly wasted Oded Fehr's talents!

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Kurobator wrote:
      With this speculation about an older Alice for Rose, don't you find that on some pictures Gabrielle's facial features are really very similar to those of Anastasia ? 

      Also she is British, and with the clues on Wonderland and possibility that Ana could hold a link with Cinderella, I don't want to go too far on false tracks, but I really hope a cross-over with the characters from OUATIW.

      From what I heard and read, Emma Rigby is not interested in returning. She is more focused on philanthropy than acting these days. Besides, this version of Cinderella takes place in the future. 

      Well yes, it's my point. I'm saying that maybe Reynolds can be older Alice and Anwar older Anastasia, so no need Emma Rigby's return.

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    • Kurobator wrote:

      Well yes, it's my point. I'm saying that maybe Reynolds can be older Alice and Anwar older Anastasia, so no need Emma Rigby's return.

      @Eskaver perfectly answered, why the spinoff characters should never come to the main show.   Rose Reynolds could very well just be Cinderella's stepsister.

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    • I think we need more clues to determine some characters.

      Anwar and Kane seem to be on a side, Bobby and Rose seem to be on a side, then there's Colin, Dania, and Andrew with Lucy.

      I'd take Rose as being an adult Grace and a Hatter over any other Wonderland character. I actually think we've played out most versions of Alice. We did the asylum, the Disney, and the warrior versions. Plus, we have had Red/White King and Queen and Queen of Hearts. We had the Jabberwock, Catepiller, and Cards. Again, played out.

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      Kurobator wrote: With this speculation about an older Alice for Rose, don't you find that on some pictures Gabrielle's facial features are really very similar to those of Anastasia ? 

      Also she is British, and with the clues on Wonderland and possibility that Ana could hold a link with Cinderella, I don't want to go too far on false tracks, but I really hope a cross-over with the characters from OUATIW.

      However, Ana's days of villainy should be over. I think she'll be original, otherwise, they would really have to retcon or recap non Wonderland viewers. I mean, see how shallow Jafar was, despite Oded Fehr's acting.

      I agree with that, for Ana. But we don't know yet precisely what they reserve for Anwar's character. Besides, there is always this plot hole in the storyline of Will and Ana, and the producers had explained that they had abandoned the vignette episode past year precisely because they didn't know how to link their story to the main plot.

      Maybe I'm totally wrong and as I said I don't want to go too far on false tracks, but with all this clues about Wonderland, Cinderella, the time jump, the british actors that looks like with some actors from OUATIW, I think that it's maybe a possibility. On the other hand, I don't think Jafar must necessarily be taken as a generality. And then, a guest and a regular are not treated alike in the show.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      I'd take Rose as being an adult Grace and a Hatter over any other Wonderland character. I actually think we've played out most versions of Alice. We did the asylum, the Disney, and the warrior versions. Plus, we have had Red/White King and Queen and Queen of Hearts. We had the Jabberwock, Catepiller, and Cards. Again, played out.

      That's a fair point. A female Mad Hatter could be fun, or perhaps she could be playing the March Hare or the Dormouse. If we're going by "each hidden object corresponds to one character", Grace would still fit the white rabbit for the reasons mentioned in her trivia section.

      The question would be, how would they handle Jefferson? I doubt they'll be able to get Sebastian Stan back. Perhaps he died and would just get a passing mention from Grace while her centric would show the aftermath of his death leading to her becoming the new Hatter/Hare/Dormouse.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      I'd take Rose as being an adult Grace and a Hatter over any other Wonderland character. I actually think we've played out most versions of Alice. We did the asylum, the Disney, and the warrior versions. Plus, we have had Red/White King and Queen and Queen of Hearts. We had the Jabberwock, Catepiller, and Cards. Again, played out.

      A female Hatter could be quite interesting, if written correctly. I completely agree, that the character of Alice, has been played out. There is no need to rehash her again. Honestly, the only Wonderland character that would make sense, is if Gabrielle Anwar is the Duchess. Only, because a duchess is a nobel title. It is not exclusive to the Wonderland stories. 

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    • Do you think they will announce all the characters tomorrow? Or just some of them? Since they bothered to give clues for all 6, I'm gonna assume they are gonna reveal them to the public.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote: Do you think they will announce all the characters tomorrow? Or just some of them? Since they bothered to give clues for all 6, I'm gonna assume they are gonna reveal them to the public.

      Probably not all new caracters in the show ... maybe only the 5 new actress that they annonce fds days ago...

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      Do you think they will announce all the characters tomorrow? Or just some of them? Since they bothered to give clues for all 6, I'm gonna assume they are gonna reveal them to the public.

      I think we'll definitely hear any Disney inserts (whether it's Tiana or Rapunzel) and very likely we'll hear Gabrielle. It's also safe to assume they'll be revealing whatever characters they were hinting at with those images - if they were hints at all. It seems moderately likely that we'll have characters for the remaining four actresses. Vladimir and any other characters that we don't even have actors for yet are less likely unless they tie into the Disney insert (like we might get Naveen, Facilier, Flynn Rider, and/or Mother Gothel).

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    • Friendly reminder: OUaT is only in middle of shooting 7.02. There is no need to announce too many new characters.

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    • Yeah, but I think all of them were in 7x01. So, there shouldn't be any reason why they can't reveal them.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Friendly reminder: OUaT is only in middle of shooting 7.02. There is no need to announce too many new characters.

      It'll be good for advertisement and promotional stuff, but some could wait until the show airs.

      We need something beyond, "Look Once is new! Look Cinderella! Not that one! And our old cast! Yay!"

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    • Calibaz wrote:
      Yeah, but I think all of them were in 7x01. So, there shouldn't be any reason why they can't reveal them.

      Not every actor plays a significan role.

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    • I think (and hope) they will announce all of them.

      I love the theory of Rose being an adult Grace! 

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    • AlbOuat wrote:
      I think (and hope) they will announce all of them.

      They will probably only announce, Gabrielle Anwar and Mekia Cox's characters. Maybe tease Tangled's Rapunzel, but without spoiling who the actress is.

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    • Kurobator wrote:
      With this speculation about an older Alice for Rose, don't you find that on some pictures Gabrielle's facial features are really very similar to those of Anastasia ? 

      Also she is British, and with the clues on Wonderland and possibility that Ana could hold a link with Cinderella, I don't want to go too far on false tracks, but I really hope a cross-over with the characters from OUATIW.

      Are you suggesting Gabrielle is playing an older version of Ana? While possible, if we are to believe Alice's book, Ana should be ruling Wonderland as the White Queen with Will as the White King.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Kurobator wrote:
      With this speculation about an older Alice for Rose, don't you find that on some pictures Gabrielle's facial features are really very similar to those of Anastasia ? 

      Also she is British, and with the clues on Wonderland and possibility that Ana could hold a link with Cinderella, I don't want to go too far on false tracks, but I really hope a cross-over with the characters from OUATIW.

      Are you suggesting Gabrielle is playing an older version of Ana? While possible, if we are to believe Alice's book, Ana should be ruling Wonderland as the White Queen with Will as the White King.

      Few years after Wonderland plot, yes. After that, we don't really know.

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    • Mark Isham posted a pic with a door, possibly in the Hatter's Hat. I'm leaning towards the idea of Rose playing a female Mad Hatter now.

      http://efnewsservice.tumblr.com/post/163265023192/markisham-the-door-to-season-7-ouat-live-at

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    • Wicked Wizard of the West wrote:
      Mark Isham posted a pic with a door, possibly in the Hatter's Hat. I'm leaning towards the idea of Rose playing a female Mad Hatter now.

      http://efnewsservice.tumblr.com/post/163265023192/markisham-the-door-to-season-7-ouat-live-at

      Could be an old picture that he's just using for the sake of a pun...

      but fingers crossed.

      If Rose really is a female Mad Hatter, I think the only real option is for her to be grown-up Grace. Otherwise, the Hatter has no connection to the White Rabbit or the Cheshire Cat. (Unless the hidden images aren't specific per character and are just general per story, but I prefer the idea of grown-up Grace than just some random female Mad Hatter).

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    • Wicked Wizard of the West wrote: Mark Isham posted a pic with a door, possibly in the Hatter's Hat. I'm leaning towards the idea of Rose playing a female Mad Hatter now.

      http://efnewsservice.tumblr.com/post/163265023192/markisham-the-door-to-season-7-ouat-live-at

      Well, the door itself is the Arendelle door inside the new hat. Could be doubling as a new world, but it was used for Arendelle (plus icicles) in the second hat.

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    • Rwo

      Geee it's just from the SDCC booth. Haven't you guys seen the videos?

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    • Rwo wrote: Geee it's just from the SDCC booth. Haven't you guys seen the videos?

      Lol, no harm in seeing if it is plot-related, right? After all, they released the poster photos from SDCC, but they obviously had clues.

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    • Here's to hoping for good SDCC reveals and if we were close!