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    Episode Airing
    23:59, April 16, 2017

    Here it is! [1]

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    • So, the sleeping curse will be broken.....But who is the episode written by? I would have assumed Hales, but given she was recently writing that's probably a later episode.

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    • Leah Fong according to the page.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Leah Fong according to the page.

      Lol, I totally need Adam's eye test. 

      Leah Fong and Chambliss. Hmm.....she co-wrote I'll Be Your Mirror. I guess this is a new combination, so I expect at least a solid episode.

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    • Andrew Chambliss and Leah Fong are writing this one. Just for anyone whose curious

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    • OmegathekidJr wrote:
      Andrew Chambliss and Leah Fong are writing this one. Just for anyone whose curious

      Thanks! I didn't expect the weird new angle.

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    • Oh, I wonder what this could be about...

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    • Andrew Chambliss?

      Oh no....

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      Andrew Chambliss?

      Oh no....

      Explain.

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    • Well, it was about time they broke the Snowing curse! (If that's what it's referring to, I don't see any other option). 

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    • While the name does seem like it's a response to the Snowing curse, it's worth noting that this episode is the debut of Tiger Lily, and speculation states that it will also be the episode with a flashback of Hook, Black Beard, and the Lost Boys. So that sounds more like a Hook-centric, which would be weird for an episode about the Snowing curse.

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    • Title makes me think of the Snowing curse, like others have said, but the actual flashbacks are speculated to be Hook/Tiger Lily/Neverland related. Interesting.

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    • Hook centric?

      Oh no....

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    • I think this title spoiler tells us that the Hook & Blackbeard scene is actually for 6x16 after all. It was weird to begin with that Colin would film an episode earlier than everyone else. There's no actual confirmation that it was a flashback so perhaps Hook just has a b or c-plot in 6x16-6x17 revolving around Neverland people. It could be a present day scene with Blackbeard and lost boys. 

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    • Katmtan explicitly said it was a flashback, and she's usually a reliable source. She also doesn't know for sure if that was filmed for 6x16 or 6x17, but suspects it was 6x16 for basically the same reasons as Jenna.

      Guess we'll find out in April.

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    • Just thinking out loud here: Awake is such a open ended title, it can have 2 or more meanings in the episode. One meaning can be that Snow and Charming break the curse, but it could have another meaning that pertains to Hook and Tiger Lily. The word itself has a few definitions, as you can see:

      1. to wake up; rouse from sleep


      2. to rouse to action; become active


      3. to come or bring to an awareness; become cognizant (often followed by to)


      4. waking; not sleeping


      5. vigilant; alert

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    • Hmm... Tiger Lily was awoken with her Savior power?

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    • Maybe Tiger Lily will help to break the Sleeping Curse?

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    • Wicked Wizard of the West wrote:
      Hmm... Tiger Lily was awoken with her Savior power?

      Makes sense. If Emma is the Enchanted Forest/Storybrooke's Savior and Aladdin is Agrabah's Savior, maybe Tiger Lily is Neverland's Savior.

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    • While Tiger Lily being a savior is an interesting concept, who is her big villain?

      I would bet that SNowing breaking the curse is part of the episode, but it may just be the B plot of the episode.

      Ok, try this on for the A Plot. Neverland was supported by magic for many years, due to both the Shadow and Pan. in "Going Home", both were defeated. The question then becomes what became of Neverland? Pan is dead, the shadow destroyed, the lost boys are in Storybrooke. My thought is that, without all of the magic, anything that was left of Neverland just "went to sleep". Pan did say that magic was dying there, so that may not be a stretch (assuming that you can trust what Pan was saying.)

      Now, in "Mother's Little Helper", let's say that something happens that removes the Black Fairy from the Dark Realm, and she needs to find a new home. Neverland might make a good option, since it is out of the way and presumably dead. And time does work a little wonky there as well, which could be to her liking. So she goes and sets about to make NL her new base of operation.  The return of magic to the island, though, wakes the one remaining person on the Island. Tiger Lily wakes up, and she is the Savior of Neverland, with the BF as her enemy.

      As for getting the main characters tied into this, in researching the Snowing curse, they do find a cure that requires water from Neverland (the same water that counters Dreamshade). Hook, due to his familiarity with NL, agrees (reluctantly) to lead a party back to NL to obtain the water, taking Emma and Regina. They encounter Tiger Lily and find out about the BF. The manage to get the water, and barely escape the island, with Tiger LIly in tow.

      There are obviously a lot of plot holes in the above, and there are a few assumptions about setup that will likely not happen. But it is a start of my headcanon until we get more information.

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    • I am rather indifferent to the whole "Multi-world Saviors", but I can see Tiger Lily being the Savior versus her great evil of The Black Fairy (Although the time period is way off).

      As to Hm's idea, I guess it's fine. I think Black Fairy would be better as some muti-world threat or antagonist to every Savior (that way Jafar can be included in this somehow).  I think Black taking a sort of Dormammu role (Dr. Stange film) and take over worlds, seeing how Black knows about realms of Dark magic and not simply one. It would be cool to see Black as some dominating force, rather than somehow in NL.

      I'll have to see as filming progresses.

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    • I'd say that, if they are going the route of multiple Saviors, each Savior will have their own great evil that they've already more-or-less dealt with, and the Black Fairy will be a new threat that requires all of them banding together separate from their Savior prophecies (or perhaps as a single prophecy about all Saviors). I don't know who Tiger Lily's original enemy would be, though. I'll dig into some Neverland mythology.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote: While the name does seem like it's a response to the Snowing curse, it's worth noting that this episode is the debut of Tiger Lily, and speculation states that it will also be the episode with a flashback of Hook, Black Beard, and the Lost Boys. So that sounds more like a Hook-centric, which would be weird for an episode about the Snowing curse.

      Does that mean pan might appear?
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    • Pan could appear, but we haven't heard anything so I wouldn't get my hopes up.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      I'd say that, if they are going the route of multiple Saviors, each Savior will have their own great evil that they've already more-or-less dealt with, and the Black Fairy will be a new threat that requires all of them banding together separate from their Savior prophecies (or perhaps as a single prophecy about all Saviors). I don't know who Tiger Lily's original enemy would be, though. I'll dig into some Neverland mythology.

      Tiger Lily likes Peter Pan, is jealous of Wendy and Tink, and gets captured by Captain Hook. Not sure who they would align her with on Once, since Pan is bad and Hook is good, though.

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    • The Neverbeast?

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:

      Tiger Lily likes Peter Pan, is jealous of Wendy and Tink, and gets captured by Captain Hook. Not sure who they would align her with on Once, since Pan is bad and Hook is good, though.

      That's a good point. For all we know, Tiger Lily might be in league with the Black Fairy.

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    • More likely, TL avoided Pan, and was one of Killian's many short lived flings, and she's mad at him for breaking her heart.

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    • Tiger Lily casting announcement!

      Who’s cast as Tiger Lily for Once Upon a Time please? — Justine D

      I can exclusively reveal that Native American actress Sara Tomko (The Son) has been tapped to play Tiger Lily, the princess of the “Piccaninny tribe,” for at least two episodes — and that’s bad news for a former resident of Neverland. “As Captain Hook continues on his path to redemption, his dark past is never far away,” executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis tease. “He’s left a long line of adversaries and Tiger Lily is the latest to return and complicate his efforts to leave that past behind.”

      http://ew.com/tv/2017/01/20/spoiler-room-timeless-blacklist-redemption-once-upon-time/

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    • So, Tiger Lily's casting and role are now known. Sigh of relief that she's not some long lost lover because everyone thinks that any woman involved with Hook has some romantic issue. He may have tossed out a thousand romantic issues, but I like when it's not romantic. (Aka Tink, Ariel, Ursula)

      I wonder if she'll be apart of Hook's princess tour. He's on a roll. Aurora (whose heart he stole), Ariel (whose Prince he left hanging), Ursula (whose voice he stole), then helping Cinderella, Emma, and Tink (not a princess) along the way. Hopefully that don't call TL a princess in-show if she's really apart of a tribe.

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    • I think that there was some implication of past romance between Hook and Tink in some interview somewhere. Don't hold me to that, though.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      I think that there was some implication of past romance between Hook and Tink in some interview somewhere. Don't hold me to that, though.

      I feel that Emma implied it, but Hook never seems to show it and Tink solely sees his love for Emma. If there was, it would have been so one-sided.

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    • So, the Snowing part (assuming by the title that there is a Snowing part), will be a B-plot of the episode?

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    • We don't know for sure, but that's the speculation.

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    • AlbOuat wrote:
      So, the Snowing part (assuming by the title that there is a Snowing part), will be a B-plot of the episode?

      We'll have to wait and see from filming. TL could just be showing up at the dead end of the episode, while Snowing are the main plot.

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    • Even though I prefer to have a Tiger Lily, I must say that Sara Tomko really has a Pocahontas look.

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    • Usually, if it's a red herring we find out the proper character in the casting announcement. The only exceptions have been Lily, Jekyll, and Hyde, but those were all plot-related big reveals. I don't see any way that Pocahontas could be a big reveal to the plot. Plus, we have even more evidence that she's from Neverland and yet another confirmation of her connection with Hook. I'm pretty sure it's Tiger Lily.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      Usually, if it's a red herring we find out the proper character in the casting announcement. The only exceptions have been Lily, Jekyll, and Hyde, but those were all plot-related big reveals. I don't see any way that Pocahontas could be a big reveal to the plot. Plus, we have even more evidence that she's from Neverland and yet another confirmation of her connection with Hook. I'm pretty sure it's Tiger Lily.

      Even with Jekyll and Hyde, we never had Adam and Eddy use the Jacob and Nathaniel names in interview quotes. But here we have them directly referring to her as Tiger Lily, when they were quoted. So yeah, looks like it is indeed not a red herring. 

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    • I don't think it is a red herring either at this point. We know an actress aditioned that looked a lot more like Pocohontas, and she didn't get the part, so I'm definitly thinking it's Tiger Lily.

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    • http://tvline.com/2017/01/20/once-upon-a-time-season-5-tiger-lily-cast-sara-tomko/


      In this article they specifically say that Tiger Lily will appear in episode 17 and 18

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    • Sara Tomko is a pretty busy actress, so I wouldn't be surprised if she faded into the background of Storybrooke with Tinker Bell.

      Or is left in Neverland after whatever happens there happens.

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    • My bet would be on Tink and Tiger to both fade into the background. Given the state of Neverland (which is actually unknown at this point) My guess is that Tiger Lily will be leaving there, but the destination remains to be seen.

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    • The question is, how is she gonna arrive in SB? Or is Hook going to present day Neverland? 

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    • Guys, Kat said that the musical ep is being filmed right now. So it must be this ep 617 Awake. This is the Easter Special, the lowest rating ep of the year so I won't be mad if they try something weird, out-of continuity for fans.

      Tiger Lily may just appear by the end of the episode, and her centric with Hook is 618

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    • Wicked Wizard of the West wrote:
      Guys, Kat said that the musical ep is being filmed right now. So it must be this ep 617 Awake. This is the Easter Special, the lowest rating ep of the year so I won't be mad if they try something weird, out-of continuity for fans.

      Tiger Lily may just appear by the end of the episode, and her centric with Hook is 618

      Could be. Unless some child is a sleep and they drifted to Neverland.

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    • Wicked Wizard of the West wrote:
      Guys, Kat said that the musical ep is being filmed right now. So it must be this ep 617 Awake. This is the Easter Special, the lowest rating ep of the year so I won't be mad if they try something weird, out-of continuity for fans.

      Tiger Lily may just appear by the end of the episode, and her centric with Hook is 618

      Probably has to do with Snow and Charming in the sleeping curse then. Guess that works for a musical episode, since they would be in a dream world.

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    • Sleeping curse...?

      Dream world...?

      What if the Neverland scenes are some sort of dream premonition from Snow or Charming, and they actually happen in 6x18?

      What if they were granted by Morpheus?

      Are we meeting the real Morpheus?

      I feel like I'm reading too much into this xDDD

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    • Wicked Wizard of the West wrote:
      Guys, Kat said that the musical ep is being filmed right now. So it must be this ep 617 Awake. This is the Easter Special, the lowest rating ep of the year so I won't be mad if they try something weird, out-of continuity for fans.

      Tiger Lily may just appear by the end of the episode, and her centric with Hook is 618

      But she's guessing 6x20 here. http://katmtan.tumblr.com/post/156254949022/any-idea-if-this-musical-episode-is-going-to-be-a

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    • Around 620. That means it could be 6x18, 6x19, 6x20, 6x21, 6x22... "around" is relative, so without her being specific, it could still mean this episode.

      Given that we thought we were filming 6x16... I think it's safe to assume that they've stopped using the same filming schedule as we've come to expect.

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    • Archie, Grumpy, and Geppetto might return in this episode...... https://twitter.com/RaphaelSbarge/status/825820883608596482

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    • Mmm With those guest stars I think this one will be the musical episode

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    • Let's hope August returns again then, as well as other guests.

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    • Beverley filmed again today, in the forest this time. https://www.instagram.com/p/BP8fYSwlkVk/

      Wonder if some of these returning characters, like Granny, Geppetto, & dwarves, will be in an EF flashback with Snow & Charming....

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    • Clutching at hope for that Granny Flashback <3

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    • Now I'm 99% sure that this ep is the musical one. 

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    • AlbOuat wrote:
      Now I'm 99% sure that this ep is the musical one. 

      I think so as well. Well....

      1. Awake seems to imply that this could just be written off as a dream.

      2. All these characters returning.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      AlbOuat wrote:
      Now I'm 99% sure that this ep is the musical one. 
      I think so as well. Well....

      1. Awake seems to imply that this could just be written off as a dream.

      2. All these characters returning.

      Exactly!

      BTW, Ginny, Josh and Lana are filming in Steveston and people on set are hypotizing that it's a flashback (?). 

      https://twitter.com/aamanda_lee

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    • Yay, lots of people coming back for this one. It does seem like it would make sense if this was the musical episode, I'm still not sure though as I feel like they missed a chance to make a really good music related pun for the title then.

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    • Kat says Bobbie is filming with a surprising someone? https://twitter.com/katmtan/status/826934163425013760

      They change for the old stores. Hello Worthington's Haberdashery, bye bye Three Bears Day Spa. Wait I thought the spa replaced Any Given Sundae? https://twitter.com/yvrshoots/status/826559240286277636

      So given that they're filming flashback for Storybrooke, could it be... Snow Queen? But of course, the story must take place after 2001 to have her around

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    • I definitely don't think this is the musical episode. Wouldn't that be relatively easy for setgoers and someone like Kat to figure out? Seems like there'd be a lot more going into it.

      It looks to me like this will be your regular Snowing centric, maybe with flashbacks to EF times and s1 curse times. These recurring characters recur fairly often and they were all around in Snowing's EF/S1 days too, so that doesn't strike me as out of the ordinary.

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      I definitely don't think this is the musical episode. Wouldn't that be relatively easy for setgoers and someone like Kat to figure out? Seems like there'd be a lot more going into it.

      It looks to me like this will be your regular Snowing centric, maybe with flashbacks to EF times and s1 curse times. These recurring characters recur fairly often and they were all around in Snowing's EF/S1 days too, so that doesn't strike me as out of the ordinary.

      It's indeed interesting, though. It's very rare that we see cursed times.

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    • It's worth noting that sometimes setgoers don't reveal all the information if they're asked (for example, they saw some of the Wish Realm costumes but wouldn't say, or Kat's aforementioned tweet about who Bobbie is filming with). This could be one of those cases.

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    • DatNuttyKid wrote:
      It's worth noting that sometimes setgoers don't reveal all the information if they're asked (for example, they saw some of the Wish Realm costumes but wouldn't say, or Kat's aforementioned tweet about who Bobbie is filming with). This could be one of those cases.

      Still, I think someone would inevitably leak it though. (The wish realm stuff for 6x10-6x11 has come out) Like with Gideon's name - it was shouted on set and a lot of people apparently caught it, but it wasn't immediately released by setgoers that night. A little while later, one decided they had to break the news early xD

      Kat already confirmed the musical was happening. TVLine all but confirms it. So A&E know it's out there - I'm expecting them to be asked about during their panel tomorrow. And apparently crew members/PAs are often willing to tell setgoers what kind of scene is being shot (like if it's flashback, in another realm, etc) so idk. I just think we'd all know when it was happening. I'd be impressed if they hid it.

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    • So according to Kat, they did indeed film 2 Storybrooke flashback scenes today. https://twitter.com/katmtan/status/826972005375238149

      It looks like those scenes were:

      1) David walking in the middle of street, almost gets hit by two cars.  https://twitter.com/yvrshoots/status/826865947185029120

      2) Snow buys flowers from Moe French's stand, then comes across Regina on the street. They talk, Snow ends up throwing flowers in the trash. (Granny, Archie, Pongo & Marco also appear in the shot) https://twitter.com/yvrshoots/status/826921258298142720 https://twitter.com/pursuit23/status/826902285196275713

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    • The Black Fairy is now in Storybrooke! Scene with Rumple. https://twitter.com/LaurenCliftxo/status/826983199154675712

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    • JennaMae wrote: The Black Fairy is now in Storybrooke! Scene with Rumple. https://twitter.com/LaurenCliftxo/status/826983199154675712

      Wahoo! I wonder if she gets a new wardrobe. Like some anti-nun garb...

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    • So the flashback for this episode is sometime during Season 1 then? I'm assuming that because before Emma arrived the characters basically did the same thing over and over (except Regina and Henry), and also David was in a coma. That's very interesting, because what would be relevant for us to see during that time? I mean we know there were pretty big periods of time that were skipped over in Season 1, but what that we need to see now?

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      So the flashback for this episode is sometime during Season 1 then? I'm assuming that because before Emma arrived the characters basically did the same thing over and over (except Regina and Henry), and also David was in a coma. That's very interesting, because what would be relevant for us to see during that time? I mean we know there were pretty big periods of time that were skipped over in Season 1, but what that we need to see now?

      More of Mary Margaret and David's "affair," it sounds like. Not sure what kind of revelation it could possibly bring into the present day though. 

      At least it's not another EF flashback? Haha. This is a little different! Literally bringing season 1 back, lol. 

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      JennaMae wrote: The Black Fairy is now in Storybrooke! Scene with Rumple. https://twitter.com/LaurenCliftxo/status/826983199154675712

      Wahoo! I wonder if she gets a new wardrobe. Like some anti-nun garb...

      ...A bikini?

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    • Here she is: https://twitter.com/sydirishdancer/status/826993617663258624

      You can't see too much but it does look like a wardrobe change...?

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    • Yay! I do love villains (villainesses at least as Once trends to).

      With Once's great job of costuming, I expect great things. Doubt she'd get beyond "rich socialite", no bikini, or schoolgirl, or maid. I was waiting to see if she was the Big Bad, rather than Big Bad that never shows.

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    • Detailed photo of the Black Fairy https://twitter.com/yvrshoots/status/827000597077299200

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    • So why is Rumple just following mummy dearest around Storybrooke? Shouldn't he be, like, angry with her and trying to kill her?

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    • So Gideon's still evil, I guess... And on his own? Weird.

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    • Black Fairy's outfit is interesting. I wasn't expecting her to be quite so covered up.

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    • Oops, sorry guys, apparently Giles was doing reshoots. So he probably stays in the modern outfit that we saw in a BTS pic from 6x15.

      http://katmtan.tumblr.com/post/156700880547/filming-updates-feb-01-2017

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    • I guess she came to SB by ep 16.It must be her and Rumple's centric

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    • Kat has a theory about the Snowing flashback :

      "What if Charming is the one who went back to "Flashback", and he has to convince Snow to believe in him/curse/true love so when they wake up, they wake up together"

      https://twitter.com/katmtan/status/827031387496525824

      https://twitter.com/katmtan/status/827031493989982208

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    • Red Leather Jacket wrote: Kat has a theory about the Snowing flashback :

      "What if Charming is the one who went back to "Flashback", and he has to convince Snow to believe in him/curse/true love so when they wake up, they wake up together"

      https://twitter.com/katmtan/status/827031387496525824

      https://twitter.com/katmtan/status/827031493989982208

      I could see that. If so, this must be her dream world then.

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    • As I expected it, this is not the musical ep. Not yet shoot. Prolly 619/620 ^^

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    • Filming done at Riverview today, a location most previously used as the Storybrooke hospital. Perhaps more "flashbacks" with Mary Margaret and David? https://twitter.com/kingscourtgraph/status/826997777582346240

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    • Snow/David/Regina/Granny/Archie/Marco/dwarves in the woods for another "flashback" scene. http://katmtan.tumblr.com/post/156782580197/do-you-know-who-is-filming-today-and-where

      Snow/Emma/Gideon/Black Fairy in the woods for a present-day scene.  http://katmtan.tumblr.com/post/156790027217/out-of-the-list-you-gave-for-who-filmed-today-do

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      Snow/David/Regina/Granny/Archie/Marco/dwarves in the woods for another "flashback" scene.

      http://katmtan.tumblr.com/post/156782580197/do-you-know-who-is-filming-today-and-where

      Snow/Emma/Gideon/Black Fairy in the woods for a present-day scene.  http://katmtan.tumblr.com/post/156790027217/out-of-the-list-you-gave-for-who-filmed-today-do

      I wonder if we could get her to be more specific with the dwarves. I'm guessing Lee (Grumpy) is there, and we know Gabe (Sneezy) is filming, but I'm not sure which of the other drarves would be. David (Doc), Faustino (Sleepy), and Mig (Bashful) were all filming this year already, so they seem likely. Not sure what is up with Michael (Happy), but I hope he comes back. And Jeffrey (Dopey) doesn't want to do the show anymore.

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    • Can you reveal when Snow and Charming will both be awake on Once Upon a Time? — Miley

      I cannot reveal when, but I can give you a tease about how. “The manner by which they are brought out of the sleeping curse is moving,” Ginnifer Goodwin tells me. “I became emotional every time I read the script and it has nothing really to do with David or me.”

      http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/10/spoiler-room-flash-once-upon-time-arrow/

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    • Interesting that has nothing to do with them, probably Emma then? 

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    • AlbOuat wrote:
      Interesting that has nothing to do with them, probably Emma then? 

      I personally didn't take her quote that way. I thought she was saying that reading the overall story makes her emotional, not something in particular that David or Snow does. But reading it over again, I can see why people are now assuming that they don't break their own curse, so idk. I'm trying to picture a super emotional episode about Snowing's curse breaking.....that's not /really/ about Snowing.....and I can't picture it. 

      But I'm not sure Emma will be involved looking at some of the BTS. The only other main we know of that filmed for the flashback/AU with Snow & David is Regina. 

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    • IMDB is reporting that Young Emma (McKenna) is in this episode.

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    • oh my gosh, please let this not have Emma meeting Snow and Charming as a young girl...

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    • I doubt that would or even could happen. Emma, at the time of the McKenna Grace era, was in Boston in one of the many group homes that she lived in, and would not have had means or opportunity to travel to Maine, even supposing that she could find Storybrooke (which was well hidden magically from the outside, as shown in "Welcome to Storybrooke".

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    • Here's an interview quote about this episode:

      Are there some returning characters that you’re particularly excited to see again?

      EK: This Sunday, I’m excited for them to see what Hook looks like [in the Wish Realm].

      AH: I’m just excited for more digging into the lives of our core characters, from Snow and Charming and more of their back stories, to Emma, and seeing more of young Emma — not just what you see this Sunday, but beyond that. I think that there’s a lot of really emotional stuff for all of them that they’re all going to face in the second half of this season.

      EK: I’m excited for a lot of them. There’s a great Rumple story coming up with him and Bae in the early days. I’m excited for people to see the Black Fairy origin story. There’s also a really fun flashback to Storybrooke during the time of the curse that has got that real Season 1 vibe, and I think that’s a lot of fun.

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    • I Saw that, too. I wonder how they will do a flashback without changing what we know of Storybrooke from season 1. I know we saw a brief bit with Ingrid, but that was handled well, as was enough separated from everyone else to make it work.  But if we get more info with Snow, David, etc, then the continuity checking had better be paying close attention.

      I don't mind retcons, so long as they don't change continuity.

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    • Did we ever find out if the flashback is an actual flashback or just a weird dream sequence?

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Did we ever find out if the flashback is an actual flashback or just a weird dream sequence?

      A&E talked about an upcoming Snowing "flashback". I'm really curious to see in which season 1 arc it takes place. 

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    • Adam just confirmed Mckenna Grace is in this episode. 
      https://twitter.com/AdamHorowitzLA/status/844243774909833216

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      Adam just confirmed Mckenna Grace is in this episode. 
      https://twitter.com/AdamHorowitzLA/status/844243774909833216

      Interesting. I wonder how that would tie into the rest of the epsiode.

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      Adam just confirmed Mckenna Grace is in this episode. 
      https://twitter.com/AdamHorowitzLA/status/844243774909833216

      Guessing we're getting another Young Emma mini flashback.

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    • Omg

      Maybe young Emma went to SB, but someone gave her a memory potion

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    • I think Snowing will see her during a vision within the sleeping curse, similiar to 4x16.

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      Omg

      Maybe young Emma went to SB, but someone gave her a memory potion

      Please stop. XD

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      8Rob wrote:
      Omg

      Maybe young Emma went to SB, but someone gave her a memory potion

      Please stop. XD

      sadly I wouldn't put it past the writers to go this route

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    • Want some tea, anyone? XD

      I really think they just give Rumple a lot of the gems. "Your questions are pointless." "Vial of magic" "Nothing makes sense." I think everyone can use some memory potion but this time in hot cocoa.

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    • Tinkerbell and Evil Queen had a similar exchange in Page 23

      It was like

      -"Where has you been? What has happened to you?" 

      -"It doesn't matter" 

      LOL

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    • IMDB is reporting this actor as Lost Boy 1:

      http://www.imdb.com/name/nm8890940/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t18

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    • Oh it seems Zelena and Regina will duplicate Snow's heart, so they can both have a whole heart again and break the curse. 

      Wasn't that a little too spoilery for the promo?


      Man, this episode is going to be good, but I'm afraid of retcons

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    • I mean, it is literally a retcon (retroactive continuity) but not in the normal way - they're apparently time traveling.

      Which they said we wouldn't have.

      Oh well.

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    • Looks like an interesting episode. So it seems we are going to have Snow and Charming going back in time to try to save Young Emma, other stuff in present day SB, and Hook meeting Tiger Lily in Neverland. Never a dull moment on this show. XD

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    • Unless they choose not to do it.

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    • Hook was in Neverland for centuries, I think he already met Tiger Lily, who HAS to be a savior or something. That's the only way I can see this side storyline being related to the main one

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    • Also, we saw Charming and Snow together in present day, which also spoiled that the curse will be broken in the next episode. 

      That was awkward promo

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    • Okay guys, about the previous episode, what is that plate in Isaac car?! Dec, WED - 1901, 15.. It's seems like a date...

      And the last story in the final scene... Talks about "a fox", "a golden bird", "a village", "a arrow"(???). This have anything about with next episodes, or just "easter eggs" about the show?!

      And seriously? I'm crazy to see this next episode too.. haha

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    • Rodrigonadur wrote:
      Okay guys, about the previous episode, what is that plate in Isaac car?! Dec, WED - 1901, 15.. It's seems like a date...

      And the last story in the final scene... Talks about "a fox", "a golden bird", "a village", "a arrow"(???). This have anything about with next episodes, or just "easter eggs" about the show?!

      And seriously? I'm crazy to see this next episode too.. haha

      We already saw that's "last stories" in the final scene I think. The golden bird, the water babies...

      On the other hand: I don't like the time travel thing. I hope they won't shatter season 3B :S

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      Hook was in Neverland for centuries, I think he already met Tiger Lily, who HAS to be a savior or something. That's the only way I can see this side storyline being related to the main one

      Well, we know from spoilers that Tiger Lily is actually a part of the Black Fairy's backstory, so that's already a big connection since we're entering that mini-arc now. Looks like they're using Hook's travels to tie up the Agrabah stuff and to introduce Tiger Lily as merely a past encounter of his before they try to pull another twist on us. 

      Not sure if she's a savior but there aren't many other options for who that other savior could be. It's gotta be her or one of the 2 new finale characters, unless they reveal later that Gideon is the official savior of the dark realm and that counts.

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    • The promo for this ep looks exciting. Snowing is back together and appears to be going on a time-traveling adventure to save Emma and Killian will continue his adventure in Neverland. Hopefully he'll be doing something that connects to the main part of the ep or the season. Like finding a certain plant that could help him get back to Storybrooke and break the Snowing curse. (I think the heart thing shown was a temporary fix). Or discovering that Tiger Lily is the Savior of Neverland.

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    • This episode seems so good, can't wait!

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    • I doubt they will change the timeline, they didn't last time, they will not now. But I don't get why they are so afraid that Emma will fight the final battle that they want to change her destiny.

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    • Haven't the Charmings learned to not to try to change Emma's future? Anyway, I hope the time travel magically makes sense.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Haven't the Charmings learned to not to try to change Emma's future?

      I guess that's the question we're supposed to ask?

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    • I hope we get the press release today. It is getting kind of late.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      I hope we get the press release today. It is getting kind of late.

      Maybe they secretly cancelled the show because I'm shocked we don't have it. Hopefully within the next few hours.

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    • Not like they already released it on Tuesdays before ^^

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    • Maybe they cancelled the show and won't even air the remaining episodes XD

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      Maybe they cancelled the show and won't even air the remaining episodes XD

      Sure you'd find it a way less funnier if it was the case ^^

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    • This shows how much ABC cares about OUAT right now... Sometimes I really wish the show aired on another network. 

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    • Let's stay calm everyone. I was just joking around. XD

      I'm certain the press release will come as it's not like it's dire to the execution of the show.

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    • Seriously guys, you all need to stop freaking out each time something is happening differently from we expect x)

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    • It's not so bad to joke sometimes. End of off-topic.

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    • My opinion? The press release is SUPER SPOILERY so they're holding off on it for as long as they can.

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    • I know there's a lot going on and she doesn't seem to fit here at all, but I really hope Belle appears in the episode.

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    • HarryPotterRules1 wrote:
      My opinion? The press release is SUPER SPOILERY so they're holding off on it for as long as they can.

      Well, their promo was quite spoilery. I'm guessing we will get one sneak peek by Friday if any at all

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    • Unlikely; we'll probably get the usual two as we always do.

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    • Maybe they lost their intern and now the actual person has to do the work. XD

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    • Can't believe the press release isn't out yet.

      I don't think the press release can be any more spoilery than the promo

      I mean, the promo showed it all

      -We know the curse will be broken

      -We know they'll go to the past because we saw Rumple with long hair

      -And we know they won't change the past

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    • The weird thing is that the Rumple with long hair and the Charmins are in Zelena's farmhouse :S That place was in SB since the first curse? O.O

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    • Maybe they haven't released it because they're still reeling from the series lows or the synopsis is too spoilerly or they're punishing us for some reason. 

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    • Hera Pan wrote:
      The weird thing is that the Rumple with long hair and the Charmins are in Zelena's farmhouse :S That place was in SB since the first curse? O.O

      Are we sure, that's not Granny's? I'm sure it's Granny's Bed and Breakfast.

      This seems to be during the first curse.

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    • Emillian Swanones wrote:
      Maybe they haven't released it because they're still reeling from the series lows or the synopsis is too spoilerly or they're punishing us for some reason. 

      Likely neither. I'm sure they probably just put it on the backburner. Maybe the "fictional" intern had to leave early yesterday and is busy today. XD

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Emillian Swanones wrote:
      Maybe they haven't released it because they're still reeling from the series lows or the synopsis is too spoilerly or they're punishing us for some reason. 
      Likely neither. I'm sure they probably just put it on the backburner. Maybe the "fictional" intern had to leave early yesterday and is busy today. XD

      Maybe we have to wait 18 months or in ABC time doensn't make sense hahaha.

      Mmm, I'm gonna check it again. But the wallpaper looks like Zelena's to me. But it could be Granny's, yeah.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Emillian Swanones wrote:
      Maybe they haven't released it because they're still reeling from the series lows or the synopsis is too spoilerly or they're punishing us for some reason. 
      Likely neither. I'm sure they probably just put it on the backburner. Maybe the "fictional" intern had to leave early yesterday and is busy today. XD

      Maybe they forgot they are airing new shows on Easter. "Oh, the new Once episode, that's this Sunday? I thought we were airing Your A Good Bunny, Charlie Brown for 3 hours." XD

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    • It can be present day Zelena's house since she is the only one who knows how to use the time travel spell

      By the way, do we know if they are using the Zelena's time travel spell? Because 6x18 seems to be an Oz flashback, and it seems it will about.......... Zelena's first attempt to use the time travel spell

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      It can be present day Zelena's house since she is the only one who knows how to use the time travel spell

      By the way, do we know if they are using the Zelena's time travel spell? Because 6x18 seems to be an Oz flashback, and it seems it will about.......... Zelena's first attempt to use the time travel spell

      That would actually make quite a bit of sense. Set up some time travel spell stuff in this episode with Zelena to move into it for her backstory.

      The only problem would be, where will they get their ingredients? Specifically the baby.

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    • Part of me hopes Graham will have a tiny cameo in this during the curse thing. One can dream XD

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      Part of me hopes Graham will have a tiny cameo in this during the curse thing. One can dream XD

      I don't think so. The actor is busy promoting the porn he has been doing

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    • FrancisPaul wrote: Part of me hopes Graham will have a tiny cameo in this during the curse thing. One can dream XD

      That would be awesome! I'd love to see Ruby and Granny's cursed interactions too.

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      FrancisPaul wrote:
      Part of me hopes Graham will have a tiny cameo in this during the curse thing. One can dream XD
      I don't think so. The actor is busy promoting the porn he has been doing

      I don't like Fifty Shades either, but there is a big difference between erotic fiction and porn. If he wants to act in an erotic fiction series, that's his choice, and we shouldn't say he is doing porn, because he is definitly not.

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      Part of me hopes Graham will have a tiny cameo in this during the curse thing. One can dream XD

      Well, they could use some archive footage, maybe. That's really the only way to do it. But better than nothing, and the curse was supposted to be esencially the same day over and over, so it works.

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    • Speaking of stuff, how does everyone think Hook is going to get back? With the tears destroyed, does that mean that Hook can return to Storybrooke? Is Tigerlily going to have magic beans or something? It appears that she'll go to SB as well.

      My thoughts of Titger Lily being a savior seems less likely, but hey, Tiger Lily.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Speaking of stuff, how does everyone think Hook is going to get back? With the tears destroyed, does that mean that Hook can return to Storybrooke? Is Tigerlily going to have magic beans or something? It appears that she'll go to SB as well.

      My thoughts of Titger Lily being a savior seems less likely, but hey, Tiger Lily.

      Tiger Lily is going to have an affaire with Hook. In the past or today, I don't know, but I'm sure they want to add more drama to the CS soap opera.

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    • Hera Pan wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      Speaking of stuff, how does everyone think Hook is going to get back? With the tears destroyed, does that mean that Hook can return to Storybrooke? Is Tigerlily going to have magic beans or something? It appears that she'll go to SB as well.

      My thoughts of Titger Lily being a savior seems less likely, but hey, Tiger Lily.

      Tiger Lily is going to have an affaire with Hook. In the past or today, I don't know, but I'm sure they want to add more drama to the CS soap opera.

      I doubt it. I mean would I put it past them to do that? Nope, but I think it's more like an Ursula or Ariel situtation. Nice guy that double-crosses because revenge.

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    • Don't have any ideas about Hook honestly. (but if it was for me he could just stay in Neverland for good lol).

      Anyway, since we saw Zelena doing something with Regina in the promo, I think they will recreate the time travel spell, only this time they will give volounteerly the ingredients like the sword, the heart and baby Neal (perhaps the dagger too if Rumple agrees). 

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    • AlbOuat wrote:

      Anyway, since we saw Zelena doing something with Regina in the promo, I think they will recreate the time travel spell, only this time they will give volounteerly the ingredients like the sword, the heart and baby Neal (perhaps the dagger too if Rumple agrees). 

      Probably some astral projection into the past of sorts. The Mills sisters seem to be trying to simply make away for them to break the curse. Snow and David seem to go through a magic portal door as well, so I'm not so sure. Perhaps the Mills break the curse and somehow send them back in time with a portal door.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      AlbOuat wrote:

      Anyway, since we saw Zelena doing something with Regina in the promo, I think they will recreate the time travel spell, only this time they will give volounteerly the ingredients like the sword, the heart and baby Neal (perhaps the dagger too if Rumple agrees). 

      Probably some astral projection into the past of sorts. The Mills sisters seem to be trying to simply make away for them to break the curse. Snow and David seem to go through a magic portal door as well, so I'm not so sure. Perhaps the Mills break the curse and somehow send them back in time with a portal door.

      Makes sense as well. Hopefully we'll know it better with the press release. 

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    • In the episode “Awake” – Still trapped in Neverland, Hook aligns himself with Tiger Lily, hoping to find a way back to Emma. Back in Storybook, Regina works to break the sleeping curse that David and Snow are under, and Gold denies The Black Fairy, which brings the two of them to a fearsome impasse. In flashbacks, we learn what Snow and Charming sacrificed in order for Emma to fulfill her destiny as the Savior, on “Once Upon a Time,” SUNDAY, APRIL 16 (8:00–9:00 p.m. EDT), on The ABC Television Network.

      “Once Upon a Time” stars Ginnifer Goodwin as Snow White/Mary Margaret, Jennifer Morrison as Emma Swan, Lana Parrilla as the Evil Queen/Regina, Josh Dallas as Prince Charming/David, Emilie de Ravin as Belle, Colin O’Donoghue as Hook, Jared S. Gilmore as Henry Mills, Rebecca Mader as the Wicked Witch/Zelena and Robert Carlyle as Rumplestiltskin/Mr. Gold.

      Guest starring are Lee Arenberg as Leroy/Grumpy, Beverley Elliott as Granny, Raphael Sbarge as Archie Hopper/Jiminy Cricket, Tony Amendola as Marco/Gepetto, Jaime Murray as Black Fairy, Giles Matthey as Gideon, Mckenna Grace as Young Emma, Sara Tomko as Native American Woman/Tiger Lily, Eric Keenleyside as Sir Maurice/Moe French, Gabe Khouth as Mr. Clark/Sneezy, David-Paul Grove as Doc and Faustino Di Bauda as Sleepy.

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    • PRESS RELEASE FINALLY!!!!!

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    • So......

      Flashback: Snow and Charming awake early during the curse. (No time travel) They pull a Neal (sort of). So, Rumple was awoken as well. Questions ensue.

      Present Day: TL and Hook helps each other in NL shenanigans. Regina and Zelena work together on breaking the sleeping curse. Black Fairy taunts Emma, goes to make a deal (I hope not) with her dear son.

      So.....

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    • Interesting note: TL is labeled as Native American woman. While not Apprentice but perhaps Snow and David run into Tiger Lily who went to SB early DC years because she knows the Black Fairy and about the Dark Curse and offer them a way to break the curse, or change things. Like a fairy godmother of sorts...or some sort of shaman.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      So......

      Flashback: Snow and Charming awake early during the curse. (No time travel) They pull a Neal (sort of). So, Rumple was awoken as well. Questions ensue.

      What? How does the release imply a during the curse flashback? Doesn't it mean a flashback from before the curse?

      BTW, very disappointed by the release. They waited this long, and the synopsis doesn't give at all the impression of the great episode the promo indicates

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:

      What? How does the release imply a during the curse flashback? Doesn't it mean a flashback from before the curse?

      BTW, very disappointed by the release. They waited this long, and the synopsis doesn't give at all the impression of the great episode the promo indicates

      The Flashbacks are those two in SB attire as we saw infilming pics and there in the promo. Flashback during the 28 years of curse. 

      The press release gives me relief they aren't doing some made-up time travel.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      FrancisPaul wrote:

      What? How does the release imply a during the curse flashback? Doesn't it mean a flashback from before the curse?

      BTW, very disappointed by the release. They waited this long, and the synopsis doesn't give at all the impression of the great episode the promo indicates

      The Flashbacks are those two in SB attire as we saw infilming pics and there in the promo. Flashback during the 28 years of curse. 

      The press release gives me relief they aren't doing some made-up time travel.

      True, but I'm worried they'll retcon something about season 1 and the curse. Wasn't David supposed to be in a coma?

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    • AlbOuat wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      FrancisPaul wrote:

      What? How does the release imply a during the curse flashback? Doesn't it mean a flashback from before the curse?

      BTW, very disappointed by the release. They waited this long, and the synopsis doesn't give at all the impression of the great episode the promo indicates

      The Flashbacks are those two in SB attire as we saw infilming pics and there in the promo. Flashback during the 28 years of curse. 

      The press release gives me relief they aren't doing some made-up time travel.

      True, but I'm worried they'll retcon something about season 1 and the curse. Wasn't David supposed to be in a coma?

      I think that TL (whose also listed randomly as Native American Lady) visited in the 1980s-ish and somehow offered them a way to save their child and break the curse. (TL knows the Black Fairy and her curse.) Regina is the only issue since she should notice. (All they have to do is have a memory wipe which seem to be quite often).

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    • Every time I have worst fears about this episode... This 6B is being very disappointing :S

      I don't know how Tigger Lily was going to go to SB if nobody could travel between realms during the curse, because they were frozen.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Interesting note: TL is labeled as Native American woman. While not Apprentice but perhaps Snow and David run into Tiger Lily who went to SB early DC years because she knows the Black Fairy and about the Dark Curse and offer them a way to break the curse, or change things. Like a fairy godmother of sorts...or some sort of shaman.

      This is interesting. But another one of those "Really?! You're going to stuff a flashback there?!" moments if Snow and David really did "wake up" during the curse and had their memories wiped.

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    • And now I no longer think I'll enjoy the episode XD

      I wasn't expecting a during the curse flashback

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    • So I guess the Snowing we see in the promo is not present-day Snowing wanting to change the past, but rather the Snowing who woke up like ~18 years earlier than expected and got a chance to find their daughter at her real age then.

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    • JennaMae wrote:

      Eskaver wrote:
      Interesting note: TL is labeled as Native American woman. While not Apprentice but perhaps Snow and David run into Tiger Lily who went to SB early DC years because she knows the Black Fairy and about the Dark Curse and offer them a way to break the curse, or change things. Like a fairy godmother of sorts...or some sort of shaman.

      This is interesting. But another one of those "Really?! You're going to stuff a flashback there?!" moments if Snow and David really did "wake up" during the curse and had their memories wiped.

      Beats running from the Evil Queen, I wager.

      In all truth, they've bested a dead horse with most of the characters (Regina, Snow, David) while Rumple is more diverse in flashbacks and Belle, Zelena, and Hook apparently have nothing interesting to tell (kidding).

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    • FrancisPaul wrote: And now I no longer think I'll enjoy the episode XD

      I wasn't expecting a during the curse flashback

      Well, filming spoilers told us that it was a "during the curse flashback".

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      FrancisPaul wrote: And now I no longer think I'll enjoy the episode XD

      I wasn't expecting a during the curse flashback

      Well, filming spoilers told us that it was a "during the curse flashback".

      I must've missed those then. I was completely clueless XD Anyway, hope it's better than it seems

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:

      FrancisPaul wrote: And now I no longer think I'll enjoy the episode XD

      I wasn't expecting a during the curse flashback

      Well, filming spoilers told us that it was a "during the curse flashback".
      I must've missed those then. I was completely clueless XD Anyway, hope it's better than it seems

      Now, we're talking! Hope, something Snow can't live without! XD

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    • If Moe is there, anyone thinks Belle might still appear? (Not like we didn't know before the release that he would appear, but it seems weird to have him withou her).

      Also, what if this "awake" thing isn't only Snowing, but the entire town getting their memories back just to have them wiped away again? I can see during the 1990s' Moe confronting Gold about Belle's whereabouts

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      If Moe is there, anyone thinks Belle might still appear? (Not like we didn't know before the release that he would appear, but it seems weird to have him withou her).

      Also, what if this "awake" thing isn't only Snowing, but the entire town getting their memories back just to have them wiped away again? I can see during the 1990s' Moe confronting Gold about Belle's whereabouts

      No, please, because Gold believed that Belle died and he blamed Moe for that in 1x12.

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    • Hera Pan wrote:
      FrancisPaul wrote:
      If Moe is there, anyone thinks Belle might still appear? (Not like we didn't know before the release that he would appear, but it seems weird to have him withou her).

      Also, what if this "awake" thing isn't only Snowing, but the entire town getting their memories back just to have them wiped away again? I can see during the 1990s' Moe confronting Gold about Belle's whereabouts

      No, please, because Gold believed that Belle died and he blamed Moe for that in 1x12.

      Each blamed the other. Moe wasn't aware that she was alive as well

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    • I just find it funny that they spelled Storybrooke wrong, calling it Storybook ;)

      Also, this looks to be a confusingly good episode :)

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    • Gusey1397 wrote:
      I just find it funny that they spelled Storybrooke wrong, calling it Storybook ;)

      Also, this looks to be a confusingly good episode :)

      Also, Geppetto is missing a P. I'm sure I'm 100% wrong, but, to me, this release seems to have been written in a hurry after it was decided for some reason not to release the original one XD

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      Hera Pan wrote:
      FrancisPaul wrote:
      If Moe is there, anyone thinks Belle might still appear? (Not like we didn't know before the release that he would appear, but it seems weird to have him withou her).

      Also, what if this "awake" thing isn't only Snowing, but the entire town getting their memories back just to have them wiped away again? I can see during the 1990s' Moe confronting Gold about Belle's whereabouts

      No, please, because Gold believed that Belle died and he blamed Moe for that in 1x12.
      Each blamed the other. Moe wasn't aware that she was alive as well

      But Gold believed that Belle killed herself after Maurice enclosed her in a tower. If Moe confronts Gold about Belle's whereabouts, Gold would know that Regina lied to him in 1x12.

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    • Hera Pan wrote:
      FrancisPaul wrote:
      Hera Pan wrote:
      FrancisPaul wrote:
      If Moe is there, anyone thinks Belle might still appear? (Not like we didn't know before the release that he would appear, but it seems weird to have him withou her).

      Also, what if this "awake" thing isn't only Snowing, but the entire town getting their memories back just to have them wiped away again? I can see during the 1990s' Moe confronting Gold about Belle's whereabouts

      No, please, because Gold believed that Belle died and he blamed Moe for that in 1x12.
      Each blamed the other. Moe wasn't aware that she was alive as well
      But Gold believed that Belle killed herself after Maurice enclosed her in a tower. If Moe confronts Gold about Belle's whereabouts, Gold would know that Regina lied to him in 1x12.

      Oh, that.

      Sure, but I'm guessing (and my guess is as good as yours at this point) that even Gold's memories of whatever happened during this "awakening" thing were erased. I don't think he remembers any of that. Of course, we can only tell that after we watch it lol

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    • Yeah, I think that too (btw, Moe knows that he has a grandson? O.O).

      I'm very afraid of this "awakening"... Also, one of the writers is Andrew Chambliss, who already messed up the timeline and the curse in "Dark Waters" :S

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    • So, based on the synopsis, the episode still looks as good as it did in the promo. However, I am a bit confused because the promo focused the most on the Snowing stuff, but in the synopsis, the Hook/Tiger Lily part comes first which usually indicates the main storyline for the episode.  I'm also kind of worried about what's going to happen to Young Emma. I think Snowing is going to somehow end up meeting her, but they'll have to leave her. I do like the prospect of Snowing being able to be with their daughter when she was little, however. And vise versa.

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    • So what do you guys think this price is?

      I'm guessing the curse was already broken and Snowing could reunite with their daughter but they were told that, if they did so, a terrible villain known as the Black Fairy wouldn't be defeated.

      Their option was to let the curse be cast once more and forget all of it so that Emma could grow and ultimately face the BF.

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    • Hera Pan wrote:
      Yeah, I think that too (btw, Moe knows that he has a grandson? O.O).

      I'm very afraid of this "awakening"... Also, one of the writers is Andrew Chambliss, who already messed up the timeline and the curse in "Dark Waters" :S

      He didn't mess up the timeline or curse. It works as most already thought. The only issue was Liam's age which wasn't technically stated.

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      So what do you guys think this price is?

      I'm guessing the curse was already broken and Snowing could reunite with their daughter but they were told that, if they did so, a terrible villain known as the Black Fairy wouldn't be defeated.

      Their option was to let the curse be cast once more and forget all of it so that Emma could grow and ultimately face the BF.

      Pretty much. And I'm sure they didn't tell the actors/actresses before this because it didn't really look as if Snow knew anything since Emma and Snow both went to Rumple.

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    • If Emma is the only one who can break the curse, how could it have been broken so they could find her? Who could have broken it?

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      So what do you guys think this price is?

      I'm guessing the curse was already broken and Snowing could reunite with their daughter but they were told that, if they did so, a terrible villain known as the Black Fairy wouldn't be defeated.

      Their option was to let the curse be cast once more and forget all of it so that Emma could grow and ultimately face the BF.

      And my expectations with the episode are going down as new theories arise. Fear wins over me xD. Eskaver, the issues with Liam's age are what messed up the timeline and the curse. The timeline because the was a child. The curse because the lands were frozen, so he shouldn't age. Anyway, the actor is 31 I think, so he could be in his 30s and have aged propertly during the curse. But did Nemo age too?

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    • HRHPrincessSierra wrote:
      If Emma is the only one who can break the curse, how could it have been broken so they could find her? Who could have broken it?

      Magic. I mean Snow and Charming's true love ( which Emma is) is essentially the part that breaks the curse. So, the Dark Curse could likely be broken on an individual basis. Rumple gets his memories back by remembering Emma's name. Graham starts to get his memories back by a kiss from Emma. I don't think it's illogical to think there are alternative ways besides Emma. They are probably just far more difficult and specific.

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    • Hera Pan wrote:

      And my expectations with the episode are going down as new theories arise. Fear wins over me xD. Eskaver, the issues with Liam's age are what messed up the timeline and the curse. The timeline because the was a child. The curse because the lands were frozen, so he shouldn't age. Anyway, the actor is 31 I think, so he could be in his 30s and have aged propertly during the curse. But did Nemo age too?

      Liam and Nemo must have went to a land that wasn't affected by the Dark Curse. There Nemo and Liam aged. So, nothing breaking previous canon. We don't know if all lands were frozen, some seem to imply that they didn't. 

      Nemo aged too. Adults show less signs of age compared to children and teens. So, he could have been just very young and now quite old. Or he stumbled upon a vial of magic.

      Nevertheless, that's not related to this episode.

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    • If they broke the curse before 1x01, this will be the biggest retcon so far

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      If they broke the curse before 1x01, this will be the biggest retcon so far

      If they broke a small portion of the curse, it is completely within the realm of possibility and yes it is a retcon, but retcon doesn't mean bad thing. A retcon is simply information that's essentially new that overrides previous information or implication. 

      Retcon != discontinuity

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    • OMG! Are you suggesting they are going to RETCON THE ENTIRE FIRST SEASON?! why?! Why would they do that?!

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    • HRHPrincessSierra wrote:
      If Emma is the only one who can break the curse, how could it have been broken so they could find her? Who could have broken it?

      Perhaps the Black Fairy herself? As the creator of the curse, perhaps she could just "undo" it?

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    • Farerb wrote:
      OMG! Are you suggesting they are going to RETCON THE ENTIRE FIRST SEASON?! why?! Why would they do that?!

      Well, they aren't. So, good for them. XD

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    • Farerb wrote:
      OMG! Are you suggesting they are going to RETCON THE ENTIRE FIRST SEASON?! why?! Why would they do that?!

      Recipe for a show near cancellation: take the best of its seasons and make it as it never happened, just for the fun of doing that. Boy, that would be sooo funny if they knew the show was ending and decided to erase S1 canon.

      Of course that's not the case, though

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Hera Pan wrote:

      And my expectations with the episode are going down as new theories arise. Fear wins over me xD. Eskaver, the issues with Liam's age are what messed up the timeline and the curse. The timeline because the was a child. The curse because the lands were frozen, so he shouldn't age. Anyway, the actor is 31 I think, so he could be in his 30s and have aged propertly during the curse. But did Nemo age too?

      Liam and Nemo must have went to a land that wasn't affected by the Dark Curse. There Nemo and Liam aged. So, nothing breaking previous canon. We don't know if all lands were frozen, some seem to imply that they didn't. 

      Nemo aged too. Adults show less signs of age compared to children and teens. So, he could have been just very young and now quite old. Or he stumbled upon a vial of magic.

      Nevertheless, that's not related to this episode.

      Well, sounds reasonable. I buy it hahaha. (End of the off-topic).

      Now I wonder if the door that appears at the end of the promo is from the flasback :S Because there wasn't magic in SB... Oh my God.

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    • Hera Pan wrote:

      Now I wonder if the door that appears at the end of the promo is from the flasback :S Because there wasn't magic in SB... Oh my God.

      Magic exists in the LWM. Regina put up a protection spell around the town during the curse. She used hearts during the curse. All items can be used in the LWM. SB somehow got food and supplies during the curse. Etc.

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    • Hera Pan wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      Hera Pan wrote:

      And my expectations with the episode are going down as new theories arise. Fear wins over me xD. Eskaver, the issues with Liam's age are what messed up the timeline and the curse. The timeline because the was a child. The curse because the lands were frozen, so he shouldn't age. Anyway, the actor is 31 I think, so he could be in his 30s and have aged propertly during the curse. But did Nemo age too?

      Liam and Nemo must have went to a land that wasn't affected by the Dark Curse. There Nemo and Liam aged. So, nothing breaking previous canon. We don't know if all lands were frozen, some seem to imply that they didn't. 

      Nemo aged too. Adults show less signs of age compared to children and teens. So, he could have been just very young and now quite old. Or he stumbled upon a vial of magic.

      Nevertheless, that's not related to this episode.

      Well, sounds reasonable. I buy it hahaha. (End of the off-topic).

      Now I wonder if the door that appears at the end of the promo is from the flasback :S Because there wasn't magic in SB... Oh my God.

      True. Even if the curse was broken, they shouldn't be able to use magic in town. Hope they remember that (but they will probably use that imported magic thing).

      Or whoever triggered the breaking of the curse (BF? TL?) has enough magic to open portals in magicless SB.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      HRHPrincessSierra wrote:
      If Emma is the only one who can break the curse, how could it have been broken so they could find her? Who could have broken it?
      Magic. I mean Snow and Charming's true love ( which Emma is) is essentially the part that breaks the curse. So, the Dark Curse could likely be broken on an individual basis. Rumple gets his memories back by remembering Emma's name. Graham starts to get his memories back by a kiss from Emma. I don't think it's illogical to think there are alternative ways besides Emma. They are probably just far more difficult and specific.

      Ok I get it now, yes Magic! But now I'm wondering who will it be and how will they do it? 

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Hera Pan wrote:

      Now I wonder if the door that appears at the end of the promo is from the flasback :S Because there wasn't magic in SB... Oh my God.

      Magic exists in the LWM. Regina put up a protection spell around the town during the curse. She used hearts during the curse. All items can be used in the LWM. SB somehow got food and supplies during the curse. Etc.

      You can use magic items without magic, but just that. The magic that exist in the LWM is some kind of belief magic, and nobody in SB had that hope and that faith or belief to use magic before Rumple bring it back with the potion. The spell around the town (that didn't stop the apprentice to go to see Lily and come back to SB, although perhaps he never was cursed and just travelled from the EF to the forest where SB is) and the supplies are part of the curse, like the reset of the memories, etc. It's not a volunteer magic that they are doing.

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    • Hera Pan wrote:

      Eskaver wrote:
      Hera Pan wrote:

      Now I wonder if the door that appears at the end of the promo is from the flasback :S Because there wasn't magic in SB... Oh my God.

      Magic exists in the LWM. Regina put up a protection spell around the town during the curse. She used hearts during the curse. All items can be used in the LWM. SB somehow got food and supplies during the curse. Etc.

      You can use magic items without magic, but just that. The magic that exist in the LWM is some kind of belief magic, and nobody in SB had that hope and that faith or belief to use magic before Rumple bring it back with the potion. The spell around the town (that didn't stop the apprentice to go to see Lily and come back to SB, although perhaps he never was cursed and just travelled from the EF to the forest where SB is) and the supplies are part of the curse, like the reset of the memories, etc. It's not a volunteer magic that they are doing.

      Item magic can be used in LWM. Or if you are strong enough. The Apprentice used magic in the LWM (that's how he got Isaac to the EF).

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    • Oh, that's right...

      Well then, in SB, with magic, we had Gold, Regina and the apprentice. But we know that the Apprentice will not appear in the episode. What justification can give any other person (everyone we know that appear in the episode a priori can not open portals) to make a door appear that leads to Emma? There's no chance of mayor Mills helping the Charmings and Rumple wanted the curse to be broken so he could go to find Bae. And, if he creates the door, why would not he go for Bae instead of sending the Charmings to Emma?  

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    • Actually, as long as by the end of the episode everything goes back to how we found them in Season 1, I reeeeeeeeally don't mind anything new they have to show from before the Pilot. 

      I'm actually very interested in that. 

      Did a curse last 28 years? Did it get weaker? Did they start waking up? That's like, prehistory, I'm SO into that. 

      Again, as long as by the end of the episode everything is ok and just like we found them in Season 1. 

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    • Nakis91 wrote:
      Actually, as long as by the end of the episode everything goes back to how we found them in Season 1, I reeeeeeeeally don't mind anything new they have to show from before the Pilot. 

      I'm actually very interested in that. 

      Did a curse last 28 years? Did it get weaker? Did they start waking up? That's like, prehistory, I'm SO into that. 

      Again, as long as by the end of the episode everything is ok and just like we found them in Season 1. 

      I agree..... I am ok with this as long as we are back to normal by the end!

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    • HRHPrincessSierra wrote:
      Nakis91 wrote:
      Actually, as long as by the end of the episode everything goes back to how we found them in Season 1, I reeeeeeeeally don't mind anything new they have to show from before the Pilot. 

      I'm actually very interested in that. 

      Did a curse last 28 years? Did it get weaker? Did they start waking up? That's like, prehistory, I'm SO into that. 

      Again, as long as by the end of the episode everything is ok and just like we found them in Season 1. 

      I agree..... I am ok with this as long as we are back to normal by the end!

      What if we are not back to normal by the end and then they are forced to use the time travel spell to make it go back to normal? I mean, I really don't see 618 fitting at all in the plot if the time travel spell isn't involved

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      HRHPrincessSierra wrote:
      Nakis91 wrote:
      Actually, as long as by the end of the episode everything goes back to how we found them in Season 1, I reeeeeeeeally don't mind anything new they have to show from before the Pilot. 

      I'm actually very interested in that. 

      Did a curse last 28 years? Did it get weaker? Did they start waking up? That's like, prehistory, I'm SO into that. 

      Again, as long as by the end of the episode everything is ok and just like we found them in Season 1. 

      I agree..... I am ok with this as long as we are back to normal by the end!
      What if we are not back to normal by the end and then they are forced to use the time travel spell to make it go back to normal? I mean, I really don't see 618 fitting at all in the plot if the time travel spell isn't involved

      There's no time travel at all. So why would they need to Time travel? It's a memory loss thing, not a time travel thing.

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    • My biggest issue here would be David. If the curse was broken for him, then that means time moved again and he healed. So how come he was in coma in 1x01

      Did he stab himself again?

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    • Time didn't necessarily resume, but if it did, it would be cool if they had one day to do whatever they need to do, and when the clock strikes 8:15 time gets frozen again, in which case I'd assume he'd just fall back into a coma.

      Otherwise, the curse temporarily breaking could wake him up. I assume that if Emma had just kissed Henry with true love before Mary Margaret woke him up, he would've immediately woken up.

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    • And my biggest issue is Gold. I hope they don't retcon him to have kept his memories all along, but rather stick to him getting his memories back when he heard Emma's name.

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      My biggest issue here would be David.

      If the curse was broken for him, then that means time moved again and he healed. So how come he was in coma in 1x01

      Did he stab himself again?

      The curse would be cast again or "reset" for the entire town. A.k.a. that time period is wiped from existence. David would just magically get his injuries back. 


      I don't think "retcon" is the right word for my worries about this episode - it's just that it'll be like 6x07, where we had always known that something went down a certain way, but then the writers decided they needed a twist, so they took it back, and were like "Surprise! That actually wasn't it!" Not retcon, but might be just as frustrating. Especially if we see that Snowing had negatively impacted Emma's life somehow at age 7-10.

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    • The weird question is: Were Snow and David going to not save their friends? 

      There's no question that Emma would be the Savior and fulfill her destiny to break the curse. Either Snow and David would deny saving their friends for selfish resasons or let Emma live a sad life for the greater good...thus, this can't be a real difficult ultimatum. They from their perspectives just sent Emma alone for the greater good, so I can't see them backtracking and relearning the same lesson that will be in any way effective for the audience.

      I mean we've seen how much they have given up. Compare Snow tearfully giving David baby Emma and David heroically defending his child and delivering her to safety to whatever we imagine in this episode, I don't think that's a wise choice.

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    • Press release and cast list was not helpful. Oh well. Also, before we freak out about messing up the timeline, why don't we watch the episode first? XD

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    • I feel sorry for Belle. She will probably be forced to kill Gideon in the end.

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    • Avatar Beta wrote:
      I feel sorry for Belle. She will probably be forced to kill Gideon in the end.

      Probably not. Just get his heart back, and good old memory tea and deaging from his papa.

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    • Question: The promo begins with weird pink flowers next to snow. Those looks similar to those surrounding Cupid's shrine and were used in a hate-related spell. They just look so out of place in a snowy area that I just thought the camera must have been on some wacky filter.

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    • I think they not go though the door or maybe. That mean Regina be a evil queen again and Isaac still be the author.

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    • Sneak Peek 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFA5ZAwjPGo

      So, Zel and Reg perform a spell that would weakens the spell's magic called darkness here, but they mean dark magic. Because of a failsafe by Queenie, the heart's weaken instead of the sleeping curse. Thus, the heart's will both be so weak that both will be asleep.

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    • Didn't Regina say the EQ told her everything she knew.....? I guess she forgot this particular piece of information before attempting.

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    • JennaMae wrote: Didn't Regina say the EQ told her everything she knew.....? I guess she forgot this particular piece of information before attempting.

      It makes sense tho. If Regina isn't back to being fully evil, then the Evil Queen can't be completely good.

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      Didn't Regina say the EQ told her everything she knew.....? I guess she forgot this particular piece of information before attempting.

      Well, I guess she told her nothing. I do wonder hate though how magic users just spout "well, clearly there's a failsafe and you'll be dead by tomorrow" stuff. Even scientist and doctors do a little thinking before just spouting it out proudly. XD

      Besides, Zelena and Regina know it's an unbreakable curse (which to be credit is only like 8-ish years (minus 28) old), so I'm surprise they thought weaking the spell would work. Have they tried light magic stuff? I doubt it.

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    • Sneak Peek is okay. Still not sure exactly where we are going with this episode. XD

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    • I think Emma and Hook's reunion TLK will break it. I've thought that since the seperation and a TLK freaking saved Agrabah. And Ginny said the breaking of the curse had nothing to do with Snow. I guess David forgiving and reaccepting of Hook for his daughter might break it as well. Is there such a thing as a TL's hug or something? xD

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    • Silverandcold65 wrote:
      I think Emma and Hook's reunion TLK will break it. I've thought that since the seperation and a TLK freaking saved Agrabah. And Ginny said the breaking of the curse had nothing to do with Snow. I guess David forgiving and reaccepting of Hook for his daughter might break it as well. Is there such a thing as a TL's hug or something? xD

      I'm thinking Ginny might've been talking about Young Emma. I'm not sure how she'll help them break the curse, but she's the subject of their flashback. 

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    • JennaMae wrote:
      Silverandcold65 wrote:
      I think Emma and Hook's reunion TLK will break it. I've thought that since the seperation and a TLK freaking saved Agrabah. And Ginny said the breaking of the curse had nothing to do with Snow. I guess David forgiving and reaccepting of Hook for his daughter might break it as well. Is there such a thing as a TL's hug or something? xD
      I'm thinking Ginny might've been talking about Young Emma. I'm not sure how she'll help them break the curse, but she's the subject of their flashback. 

      Maybe her coming to terms that her daughter's the Savior and "fated to die". But that *would* have to do with her character, so... Hm. =/

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    • Silverandcold65 wrote:
      I think Emma and Hook's reunion TLK will break it. I've thought that since the seperation and a TLK freaking saved Agrabah. And Ginny said the breaking of the curse had nothing to do with Snow. I guess David forgiving and reaccepting of Hook for his daughter might break it as well. Is there such a thing as a TL's hug or something? xD

      Can you imagine all the Charming/Hook fanfictions if they share a True Love Hug lol

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    • This looks like an intriguing episode. But if they are both in the Sleeping Curse at the same time, if one (say Snow) finds a way to wake up,  will they (Snow) fall back asleep if they (Snow) wakes up the other one (Charming)?

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    • Lost Boys miss Pan? I guess they have a creepy relationship with him like Black with her citizens. Good on TL on downing the pirate and everyone around. Surprised it wasn't dreamshade.

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    • Im loving Tiger Lily already.........."Who said this was a rescue?" 

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    • From EW's spoiler room:

      “The backstory that we learn in that episode is also fairly heartbreaking and focuses a lot on the sacrifices that we make for the family as we discover that the Charmings may have had an opportunity to reunite with Emma long before they did.”

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    • Like I think someone mentioned above, it sounds like we can expect for Snowing to get the opportunity to take Emma out of the foster system, but we know they wouldn't have since they already gave her up at birth because they needed her to come back as "the savior" at age 28.

      I get it. But that all still sucks for Emma.

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    • Well, it doesn't change anything for Emma. Chances are Snow and David don't remember making this a non-factor. The only thing that isn't clear is how Regina and Rumple would react. Chances are fate has Emma being the Savior regardless of anything.

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    • So Rumple killed Pan and Hook has to pay for it ???

      And how do they know Pan died?

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      So Rumple killed Pan and Hook has to pay for it ???

      And how do they know Pan died?

      Your questions are pointless. Want some tea?

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      So Rumple killed Pan and Hook has to pay for it ???

      And how do they know Pan died?

      Well the last thing they remembered was Pan inside Pandora Box (they didn't know he switched body with Henry), so by dying they probably meant that. 

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    • Well, the Lost Boys only really know that Hook was once on their side and then led opposition that got rid of Pan. They likely think Pan is dead due to:

      1. He was gone for a long time.

      2. Neverland is light again. Theory has it that as Pan was dying, Neverland was getting darker.

      3. They are aging. With The Shadow destroyed and Pan double dead, there's nothing magical about Neverland anymore since all the magic went into Pan's youth.

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    • I liked the second sneak peek. Very happy with Tiger Lily's look and personality.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      I liked the second sneak peek. Very happy with Tiger Lily's look and personality.

      I hope they develop it more because I'm sort of over the "tough" female character. I love strong female characters, but I'm still recovering from Merida. XD Probably just because Tink played a similar role and scene with Hook.

      Hopefully she comes with a solid backstory besides because "she's supposed to be there".

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    • I'm happy with Tiger Lilly as well. Too bad we  may not get any real backstory for her.

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    • Avatar Beta wrote:
      I'm happy with Tiger Lilly as well. Too bad we  may not get any real backstory for her.

      We may get bits in 6x19.

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    • It seems the press release is not listing all the co-stars either. At least one Lost Boy talked in the sneak peek, and any normal dialog gets you a credit.

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    • 2 actually did, I believe. I think this episode will be prettty spoilery - particularly the Neverland bits.

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    • Less than a half hour til we get to be "awoke". I'm hoping for a good lead in to 618 in this episode.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Less than a half hour til we get to be "awoke". I'm hoping for a good lead in to 618 in this episode.

      I see it as Black trying out Rumple this episode, Zelena the next, and then just going all out because she won't find any allies in town.

      Promo that just aired keeps up the "Once Tonight and Every Sunday"! Banner.

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    • Two minutes away!

      I wonder if the return of Snowing will help the ratings any? Obviously, this is Easter, so it's doubtful, but...

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