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  • I like that Once Upon a Time is getting dark and, giving characters tragic endings (OK, these characters weren't exactly perfect, but Gaston was definitely not the worst villain, and Milah had redeemed herself in my opinion). Do you think these characters will escape and be free of the Underworld. We saw in "Last Rites" that souls were escaping the river - do you think we will see characters that we know escape, or are they done with Underworld arc completely?

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    • Suffering for all eternity.

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    • I think they are done with the arc for now. We may see what's going on in the Underworld at a later time (like next season), but not now.

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    • honestly, unless they do a spin-off series (similar to Wonderland, a one-and-done arc) focusing on the UW, we're done with it. I doubt there will be any future need to go and rescue characters.

      Now, if they do choose to do a spin-off of the UW, showing Arthur fighting Cruella for control, then they can choose whether or not to bring back the other characters from the River, and it might be interesting if they allowed it.  James would obviously side with Cruella, and I feel that Gaston and Milah would side with Arthur.  And Pan would be a wildcard, not siding with either side (similar to how Rumple tends to be in the above ground. Like father, like son).

      But, as far as the main show is concerned, any characters in the UW (including the River) are lost except for use in flashbacks (and I don't see many flashbacks where these would be useful characters).

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    • I'm REALLY disappointed with how they ended Milah's character. I was SUPER looking forward to her and Hook reuniting and her passing over or SOMETHING! I thought it was a really abrupt and stupid way to get rid of her. i was also very disappointed that they didn't make Hook look at all upset about how she disappeared, and that he didn't get to see her. He was just like, "oh, boo - MOVING ON!" I was hopeful that maybe they would bring her back somehow before they left the UW but... they didn't. *sigh*

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    • I think the Underworld is going to be written out of existence, by that I mean it is going to be rarely mentioned and characters will act as if the Underworld journey never happened (kind of like the events of 3B are a none issue right now since everyone is BFF with Zelena), so the lost souls probably won't be mentioned anymore (they are really not the type of characters A&E really give a damn about cause why would anybody care about poor Auntie Em, she's not a fan favorite).

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    • Rakkked wrote:
      I'm REALLY disappointed with how they ended Milah's character. I was SUPER looking forward to her and Hook reuniting and her passing over or SOMETHING! I thought it was a really abrupt and stupid way to get rid of her. i was also very disappointed that they didn't make Hook look at all upset about how she disappeared, and that he didn't get to see her. He was just like, "oh, boo - MOVING ON!" I was hopeful that maybe they would bring her back somehow before they left the UW but... they didn't. *sigh*

      That was never going to happen cause the writers don't want to undermine CS with them dealing with actual conflicts. It's kind of like how Emma was able to move on and be with Hook like two days after Neal died skipping the mourning period.

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    • Farerb wrote:
      Rakkked wrote:
      I'm REALLY disappointed with how they ended Milah's character. I was SUPER looking forward to her and Hook reuniting and her passing over or SOMETHING! I thought it was a really abrupt and stupid way to get rid of her. i was also very disappointed that they didn't make Hook look at all upset about how she disappeared, and that he didn't get to see her. He was just like, "oh, boo - MOVING ON!" I was hopeful that maybe they would bring her back somehow before they left the UW but... they didn't. *sigh*
      That was never going to happen cause the writers don't want to undermine CS with them dealing with actual conflicts. It's kind of like how Emma was able to move on and be with Hook like two days after Neal died skipping the mourning period.

      You know, not everything on the show is about Emma and Killian. I will agree that the writing has some problems to overcome, but let's not blame everything on poor writing, or writing that is overly focused on "Captain Swan".

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    • Nope.

      We done with them. 

      Milah, James, Peter Pan and Gaston damned for all eternity in the river of souls. 

      And Cora is in heaven........ god this show is so crazy XD


      Farerb wrote:
      (kind of like the events of 3B are a none issue right now since everyone is BFF with Zelena)

      Zelena is the new Regina

      Thanks to Regina, they lost Emma -----> BBF with Regina now

      Thanks to Zelena, they lost baby Neal ------> BBF with Zelena now

      Belle helps them and babysits Neal  -------> don't give a danm about her

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    • At least Auntie Em has some company with her in the river.  Misery loves company, right?

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    • I love how everyone is freaking out about these characters being in the River of Lost Souls, like you weren't worried about them when you just thought they were dead. XD

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    • With Hades not existing anymore and the fact that after he went to Storybrooke the souls started to display some intelligence and the nature oft the river is changing, I think that it is either gonna let the souls move on, or free them and they move on their way,

      That or Arthur finds a way to help them move on as its what he feels he needs to do to move on.  He thinks his unfinished business is to repair the Underworld and maybe free the souls.

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      Farerb wrote:
      Rakkked wrote:
      I'm REALLY disappointed with how they ended Milah's character. I was SUPER looking forward to her and Hook reuniting and her passing over or SOMETHING! I thought it was a really abrupt and stupid way to get rid of her. i was also very disappointed that they didn't make Hook look at all upset about how she disappeared, and that he didn't get to see her. He was just like, "oh, boo - MOVING ON!" I was hopeful that maybe they would bring her back somehow before they left the UW but... they didn't. *sigh*
      That was never going to happen cause the writers don't want to undermine CS with them dealing with actual conflicts. It's kind of like how Emma was able to move on and be with Hook like two days after Neal died skipping the mourning period.
      You know, not everything on the show is about Emma and Killian. I will agree that the writing has some problems to overcome, but let's not blame everything on poor writing, or writing that is overly focused on "Captain Swan".

      I'm well aware that not every bad writing decision they made is about Emma and Hook (Zelena, s4B for example), in the case of Milah and Hook not meeting, which is what I was commenting about, is pretty much about Hook and Emma.

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    • Farerb wrote:
      Hmcooper4 wrote:
      Farerb wrote:
      Rakkked wrote:
      I'm REALLY disappointed with how they ended Milah's character. I was SUPER looking forward to her and Hook reuniting and her passing over or SOMETHING! I thought it was a really abrupt and stupid way to get rid of her. i was also very disappointed that they didn't make Hook look at all upset about how she disappeared, and that he didn't get to see her. He was just like, "oh, boo - MOVING ON!" I was hopeful that maybe they would bring her back somehow before they left the UW but... they didn't. *sigh*
      That was never going to happen cause the writers don't want to undermine CS with them dealing with actual conflicts. It's kind of like how Emma was able to move on and be with Hook like two days after Neal died skipping the mourning period.
      You know, not everything on the show is about Emma and Killian. I will agree that the writing has some problems to overcome, but let's not blame everything on poor writing, or writing that is overly focused on "Captain Swan".
      I'm well aware that not every bad writing decision they made is about Emma and Hook (Zelena, s4B for example), in the case of Milah and Hook not meeting, which is what I was commenting about, is pretty much about Hook and Emma.

      I will disagree. The way that they moved the story along in the episode, Emma was not in the least bit threatened by Milah, and while it might have been nice to see Killian and Milah meet again, that ship sailed along time ago. There would not have been a conflict (my opinion). If anything, the way that Milah responded to Emma, I could have seen that line ending with Milah telling Killian that she is glad that he moved on and was able to find love again, except that storyline got cut short.

      Milah going into the water was more, in my opinion, about Rumple and Milah and their past. Rumple still harbored deep resentment towards Milah for abandoning Bae. He was willing to work with her because his goal was to get out of the UW and return to Belle as quick as possible. manipulating Milah to assist in rescuing Killian was just a means to that end, until Hades showed up. Once Hades made the deal with Rumple, Milah was just someone that was in the way of his goal, which is why Rumple dunked her in the river. And Rumple had to make his move before Emma returned, because she would have stopped Rumple, and he did not want to tip his villainous hand.

      The plot was about the story, not any single ship except Rumple and Milah. And in my opinion, as much as I didn't want to see Milah dunked in the water, I thought the story was well executed.

      Of course, none of us can read the writers minds, so we don't know for sure how they intended everything to be interpreted.

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    • if u guys didnt know in the 5B well the S5 DVD extras where A&E have confirmed this to be canon but more into the sense of it been a special clip b/w cruella and mordred (played by james marsters) it had been 40yrs since cruella's defeat against arthur. so shes drinks in the rabbit hole which mordred has taken over from liam's position granted. rumor still floats around that morgana is still his mother and shes still arthurs sister. but was it ever really confirmed mordred was actually arthurs son, that plot twist on almost every adaptation ive read seems more far feteched than usual. its funny bc after all these years, we really never got blue's origin tale lol and more or less how arthur was who he was. i wouldv liked it if they changed his backstory and made mordred his son/half-nephew with morgana and fun fact of arthur was a descendant of nimlin's love. it srsly haunts me that dark1hook got away with killing merlin, the most powerful wizard ever, bc of nimue's influence on him was written so poorly. it was like we finally got disney-hook through darkhook

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    • A Spy in the Mirror
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