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  • Emma- born October 22, 1983

    Henry- born August 15, 2001 (Regina's password)

    Snow White- born April 15, 1956 (Approximate date of the present day events of 2X15. I believe at some point Emma mentions that Mary Margaret is younger than her. This would make her 6 months younger.)

    Prince Charming- born around 1956 (Around the same age as Snow. Both actors were born the same year.)

    Regina- born in February 1948 (This would make her 18 when Snow is 10. The events of 5X12 show her birthday to be in February.)

    Zelena- born April 15 1945 (Her birthday is mentioned in 5X16. In 5X19 the flashback implies she is around 3 years older than Regina.

    Roland- born in early-mid 1979 (He is 4 in 3X03, which takes place around May 2012)

    Elsa- born around 1951 (Based on age of actress. This would make her approximately 28 in 1979, the approximate time of the Frozen flashbacks)

    Anna- born around 1954 (Based on age of actress and her traditional age in relation to Elsa)

    Ingrid- born around 1915 (She is around 35 when she is trapped in the urn on her father's 70th birthday. This would make her around 57 when she arrives in Storybrooke.)



    For the following I am going to assume Bae arrives in England in 1859, the year the Big Ben was built. This would make him, his father, and Hook around 200:

    Baelfire- born March 23, 1845 (Assuming Neal's birthday from his wanted poster is his real birthday)

    Rumpelstiltskin- born around 1804 (This makes him 55 when he becomes the DO, the current age of his actor)

    Hook- born around 1829 (This would make him 30 when Milah dies and approximately 35 in the present,  the age of his actor)

    Liam Jones- born around 1826 (approximately 3 years older than Hook)

    Milah- born around 1813 (This makes her 46 when Rumpel kills her, the actresses current age)  

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    • Cool! ^_^

      But there's one thing, Eva said that Snow was born during the harshest of the winters :/

      So it should be January-March 1956 ?

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    • We don't know that seasons are the same in the EF as they are in LWM.

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    • August is 7 years older than Emma which means he was born around 1976 (It doesn't matter but I had to add it)

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    • Interesting, and good job Begfhn.

      Also, 123a123, August is technically not born, he is made, so he doesn't really have a birthday, other than when he was made, and he was made to be a boy already.

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    • The only characters we know the exact age of, are Emma, Henry, Roland, Cinderella, Violet and August. At least, these are the ones that I can remember off the top of my head.

      David is in his early thirties in season one, according to a newspaper article in "The Shepherd". As for Mary Margaret, Emma stated in "The Heart of the Truest Believer" (where she is still 28) that she and her parents are the same age (biologically, of course), indicating that Snow White is approximately the same age as Emma. Regina was a young woman when Snow White was ten, so if we assume that she is minimum eight years older than Snow, she should be approximately 36 years old in "Pilot", and a couple of years older now. Zelena is a bit older than her.

      As for the rest: All we can do, is guess. A character may be around the same age as the actor, but the actor's age is not a definite indicator of the character's age. It is not unusual for actors to portray characters that are younger than themselves. Emma, for example, is currently thirty years old; however, Jennifer Morrison herself is actually 37. Ashley Boyd is nineteen in "The Price of Gold", while Jessy Schram was almost 26 at the time.

      My personal guess is: Elsa, Anna - early twenties; Ingrid, Milah - early to mid forties (and note that Rachel Shelley was 46 in "Devil's Due", as Begfhn points out, but she was 43 in "The Crocodile"), Baelfire - mid thirties (assuming the data on his wanted poster are meant to represent his biological age), Hook and Arthur - early thirties, Rumplestiltskin - early fifties, Liam and Robin - mid to late thirties, Belle - late twenties to early thirties, Ruby - somewhere in her twenties, Cora - somewhere in her sixties, Geppetto - late sixties to seventy-something, Cruella - late thirties to early forties. The list of characters is long, but I think I'll stop there ;-)

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    • So Henry WAS a fifth-grader when the show started! That means he's either in middle school or a freshman currently.


      WHY DID HE KNOW MORE ABOUT THE GREEK MYTHS THAN EMMA!?!?!?

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    • WilliamOliver11 wrote:
      So Henry WAS a fifth-grader when the show started! That means he's either in middle school or a freshman currently.


      WHY DID HE KNOW MORE ABOUT THE GREEK MYTHS THAN EMMA!?!?!?

      Henry should actually be graduating 8th grade. Too bad the graduation party would be held at Granny's.

      Emma was a troubled youth tossed between homes, so I can get that. She knows something, but not everything which is similar to any random person you ask today. As another 30 year old about Greek myth and I'm sure they know just as much or even less than Emma.

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    • Well, according to my timeline calculations, the show is in April - June 2014 at the moment, so Henry hasn't turned thirteen yet. Which makes him a 7th grader, right?

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    • Nightlily wrote:
      Well, according to my timeline calculations, the show is in April - June 2014 at the moment, so Henry hasn't turned thirteen yet. Which makes him a 7th grader, right?

      Oh, I thought they said he was thirteen, lol. But then agin, the writers don't math well.

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    • Well, Henry told Sir Morgan that he was thirteen in "Dreamcatcher", but he obviously lied to seem "more fitting" to his daughter. Emma makes remarks about Henry acting like a teenager in "The Brothers Jones" and "Our Decay", but she was probably using this word because he is approaching thirteen.

      But I agree, the writers need to get a grip on themselves and do the math.

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    • Nightlily wrote:
      Well, Henry told Sir Morgan that he was thirteen in "Dreamcatcher", but he obviously lied to seem "more fitting" to his daughter. Emma makes remarks about Henry acting like a teenager in "The Brothers Jones" and "Our Decay", but she was probably using this word because he is approaching thirteen.

      But I agree, the writers need to get a grip on themselves and do the math.

      Don't you know, math is the enemy of writers. XD

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Interesting, and good job Begfhn.

      Also, 123a123, August is technically not born, he is made, so he doesn't really have a birthday, other than when he was made, and he was made to be a boy already.

      True. Pinocchio didn't age when he was a puppet and he was only a real boy for a few months before the curse. We don't know when he was made.

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    • Nightlily wrote:
      Well, according to my timeline calculations, the show is in April - June 2014 at the moment, so Henry hasn't turned thirteen yet. Which makes him a 7th grader, right?

      Actually, in 1X20 Mary Margaret mentioned teaching fourth grade. This would make Henry a fourth grader in season 1 and currently finishing sixth grade if we are correct about the timeline. It seems unusual given his age, but I guess it is possible that he is turnung 13 the summer after sixth grade.

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    • Yes, I know what MM said, and it is kind of confusing.... Is it possible, that she is teaching fourth graders and fifth graders? I don't know how the American school system works...

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    • Nightlily wrote:
      Yes, I know what MM said, and it is kind of confusing.... Is it possible, that she is teaching fourth graders and fifth graders? I don't know how the American school system works...

      Well, typically (and given Henry's birthday) he should be in 5th grade unless Henry had to repeat a grade, or started late. However, Regina didn't seem the type for an underachieveing son.

      So, perhaps MM teaches several grades, but more notably was fourth grade because that gave her time to get to know Henry at age 9 to 10 because October was when Henry went to Emma and if she was the way I suspect (4th and 5th) it would give her more than just 2 months to give Henry the book and for Henry to realize things.

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    • She probably teaches more grades, seeing as she is still Henry's teacher in 412.

      Also, when Season 1 started it was 2011, but when MM was released from jail it was already 2012. Wasn't that a different school year as well?

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      She probably teaches more grades, seeing as she is still Henry's teacher in 412.

      Also, when Season 1 started it was 2011, but when MM was released from jail it was already 2012. Wasn't that a different school year as well?

      No. School year started September (roughly) 2011. Henry went to find Emma late October 2011. The school year would end in June 2012.

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    • Oh right. I forgot that in America the school year does not coincide with the civil year

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    • Nightlily wrote:
      Yes, I know what MM said, and it is kind of confusing.... Is it possible, that she is teaching fourth graders and fifth graders? I don't know how the American school system works...

      American here to help everybody out. XD

      The school year traditionally goes from September of one year to June of the next. Also, sometimes classes have two grades together, although it is not common. It's a more experimental situation that schools have tried.

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    • There is actually one thing I would like to change. It is believed that the Frozen timeline follows exact continuity with the movie, making Elsa and Anna 23 and 20 two years after the movie. Kristoff is assumed to be the same age as Anna, based on a scene from the beginning of the movie showing Kristoff as a child. However, David and Kristoff being childhood friends leads me to believe they are closer in age, while David is well into his 20s even by the events of 4X02. I am going to assume that Elsa and Anna are a little older in this show than in the movie. Anna is the same age as Snow and Charming before Arendell is frozen, but then they age for another 6 years before and after the curse.

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    • With so little to go on, I find this thread interesting. 

      Of course, the only person that we know the exact age of is Henry, since we have his complete birthdate, in canon. Emma was celebrating her 28th birthday in the pilot, and we have assumed that the air date of the pilot is the one (and only) time where the Once timeline and the Real World timeline coincide and are lined up exactly (unless there was something else that I missed during the show).  Based on Henry's age at the time he found Emma, we do know the year matched up, so using the pilot date is not an unreasonable assumption, making Emma born sometime in 1983.

      The fact that they show Regina's birthday party during an episode that aired in March in no way ties her birthday to that month, though.  We know that the events of the episode's backstory occurred during a celebration of Regina's birthday, but we have no basis to make any judgement of when that date might be.

      Really, about all we can do is guess, and the information we have is spotty at best. And the guesses given above are about as good as any.

      One point. If we assume that ages were maintained during the Curse, that would make Cinderella 19.  However, when we see Snow and Cinderella together in the EF at Ella's wedding, there does not seem to be 9 years age difference between the 2 ladies. So I would contend that Snow is actually much younger than 28 at the time of the curse, probably more like 22-23. And this age would actually be more culturally in line with the culture portrayed in the EF. (and would make Emma a few years older than her mom. Awkward?)

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    • In Welcome to Storybrooke, a newspaper shows the date to be September 23 on the first day after the curse, further confirming Emma's birthday. As for Snow, Charming, and Ella, they may look closer in age because of the age of the actors, but the show confirms Ella is 19 at the time of the curse. Emma claims that her parents are the same age as her, so they are probably not 5 years younger. It also seems weird for David and Mary Margaret to be that young, considering their roles in Storybrooke.

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    • I would also like to bring up Aurora and Phillip. Traditionally, Aurora was 16, but in this version she was already about to marry Phillip before she was put under the sleeping curse and she was not cursed to prick her finger on her sixteenth birthday. Aurora appears to be closer in age to Snow, especially since she becomes pregnant shortly after the curse is broken. Furthermore, assuming Phillip and Aurora were the same age, Phillip would've aged at least 3 years (from The Outsider until the curse) while Aurora was still under the sleeping curse.

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    • Begfhn wrote:
      I would also like to bring up Aurora and Phillip. Traditionally, Aurora was 16, but in this version she was already about to marry Phillip before she was put under the sleeping curse and she was not cursed to prick her finger on her sixteenth birthday. Aurora appears to be closer in age to Snow, especially since she becomes pregnant shortly after the curse is broken. Furthermore, assuming Phillip and Aurora were the same age, Phillip would've aged at least 3 years (from The Outsider until the curse) while Aurora was still under the sleeping curse.

      Yeah, Aurora's older in this version.

      I do say that Snow and David are hard to put as the smae age as Emma. The actors and actresses are all around the same age, but one would think that by seeing the flashbacks that they'd be younger than Emma by at least 3 to 5 years. Primarily because Regina would be 38, Zelena 40 to their 30 years of age. 

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    • One thing, my estimate is not based on the apparant age of the actors.  And let's face it, Lana, JMo, and Ginny have all portrayed younger (much younger) versions of their characters, going back as far as their late teen years. So I would suggest that the age of the actor is not a valid consideration for determining the age of the Character.

      First, thanks for the additional reference to the Newspaper in "Welcome to Storybrooke". 

      I think the main reason everyone assumes that Snow and David  are late 20's/early 30's is the statement that was made regarding Emma being around the same age as her parents. And by modern standards, a couple getting married and having children in their late 20's is not unreasonable.

      But the setting for the EF is more Renaissance.  Now, there are a variety of views on what marriage looked like in that era, but generally, Men were much older than their brides (upwards of 14 years older), and most women were married before they turned 20.  If we take what we know to be Canon in the show, and combine it with the cultural norms from the Renaissance, then the following woiuld be myguess for the approximation of the ages:

      Ella was 19 when we met her in "The Price of Gold". And that falls right in line with the EF Culture.

      Snow was of Marrying age even in "Labor of Love", and while there is no clear evidence where that episode falls in the timeline, I would suggest that it was probably not more than 2 years before Leopold's tragic death and Snow's escape (with the help of the Huntsman). So if Snow was 14-15 in LoL, I would guess she was 16-17 in "The heart is a lonely hunter", probably 18 when she met David, 19-20 when married, and 21 when she had Emma.

      And allowing for the usual once twist, Aurora is probably still in the 17-19 age range when we first see her in season 2.

      Given that the fimeline for Belle probably falls something like "Her Handsome Hero", "Family Business", and "Skin Deep", with  "The Outsider" and Lacey occuring during the events of Skin Deep, I guess that Belle was probably around 16-17 during Her Handsome hero (allowing a little for a doting and overprotective father) and based on everything else, the events from that point to Skin Deep probably happened quickly, making Belle around 18 at the beginning of Skin Deep, and therefore around 19 by the time of the curse.

      Regina is around 8 years older than Snow. She was around 18 when she was in love with Daniel, and ultimately forced to marry Leopold (which, btw, was also not an uncommon occurance for nobility during the renaissance). And since Snow was 10 during that time (and we have heard Snow mention several times that she was 10 years old at the time), that would put Regina 29, maybe 30, when she cast the curse.

      And Zelena is 2-3 years older than Regina, so she was 33-34 when we first meet her in 3B. based on the guess for Regina's age.

      And without going into the details, I guess that Cora was aproximately 21 when she married Henry and had Regina, making her around 50 when she was killed by Snow.

      Killian, as a officer in the navy, and given the circumstances that led to his joining the navy, was likely in his late 20's, perhaps even early 30's, when he became the pirate and journeyed to Neverland.

      David was probably in his early 20's when we first meet him in "the Shepherd", and is therefore probably 4-5 years older than snow, making him 25-26 when Emma was born.

      Rumple was called up to serve in the Army, probably not long after his wedding. Given his status of town coward, he probably had a difficult time finding a woman willing to take him, yet he was also young enough to serve in the Army. So I would place him at close to 30 when he went to war (they were getting desperate for bodies at the front). And similarly, Milah was older as well, if she was willing to settle on being married to the town coward, but probably older as in being in her mid 20's. which would put her in her mid 30's when she dumped Rumple for Killian (Bae was 8-10 when Milah left).

      Anyway, that's my guess on what their ages are.

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    • Begfhn wrote:
      I would also like to bring up Aurora and Phillip. Traditionally, Aurora was 16, but in this version she was already about to marry Phillip before she was put under the sleeping curse and she was not cursed to prick her finger on her sixteenth birthday. Aurora appears to be closer in age to Snow, especially since she becomes pregnant shortly after the curse is broken. Furthermore, assuming Phillip and Aurora were the same age, Phillip would've aged at least 3 years (from The Outsider until the curse) while Aurora was still under the sleeping curse.

      The more traditional Sleeping Beauty story where she pricks her finger at 16 is probably being saved for Briar Rose, Aurora's mother.

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    • I wouldn't take "Middle Ages, etc" culture into play. Fans always do that but the show never goes into any real detail that confirms anything of the sort.

      Elsa is unmarried and in her mid 20s. Her aunts were unmarried and like 40s or at least late 30s. I would say that I'm kidding but it's in the dialogue that their father (Elsa's grandfather) was turning 70 and Helga brings an escort to potentially marry. I doubt the King was late 50s having his first child, being heirless for a long time which would be a problem in "Middle Ages, etc".

      Now for Rumple, I'd put it at early 50s. Big Ben completion date to 1983 is like ~130 years. And Adam said he's just under 200 (But I assume really close). Then Milah at mid 40s when she died. That would make them roughly mid 30s, late 20s when they got together which I could believe.

      What doesn't help Snow is all the peculiar choices of clothing and how she portrays herself. At some points one could confuse who's the elder between Regina and Snow, lol.

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    • As for the show never going into detail, I would tend to agree on one hand. But the costuming and other cultural aspects that are shown in the EF is consistent with Renaissance era, which is why I chose that era in particular. 

      As for Elsa and the Frozen gang, that particular culture is NOT renaissance in the slightest, but more pre-industrial (late 1700's to mid-1800's), and it definitly comes across that way. Different culture, different rules. Arendelle is not the EF.

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      As for the show never going into detail, I would tend to agree on one hand. But the costuming and other cultural aspects that are shown in the EF is consistent with Renaissance era, which is why I chose that era in particular. 

      As for Elsa and the Frozen gang, that particular culture is NOT renaissance in the slightest, but more pre-industrial (late 1700's to mid-1800's), and it definitly comes across that way. Different culture, different rules. Arendelle is not the EF.

      While I get what you are saying, the whole FTL is a fictional world. So while some things in the EF reflect our renaissance era, we could argue that some things are very different from it. At any rate, I don't think we can guess ages of characters by how old they would be if they were in our world in the 1400's, because they are not in our world.

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    • to make the timeline easier I think you guys should consider the Dark Curse casting Year 0. And Regina's birthday is 30BC (Before the Curse), or Emma return to SB in 28AC (After the Curse) etc

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    • I will agree that using a "renaissance" era culture in FTL is rather arbitrary. But that's my head canon, and I'm sticking to it. :-p

      Making the timeline easier by putting the casting of the DC as year 0 does not really solve anything, in my opinion. We don't know how old many of the people actually are at the time of the first DC casting. Emma was a newborn, and Ella is 19. Beyond that, we have nothing conclusive.

      And my argument on Snow's age is actually not based on the EF/Renaissance setting (though it is consistent with it).  Snow was most likely around 14-15 in Labor of Love (Maybe as young as 13, but not much younger). And while there is nothing clear and exact from a show canon perspectrive regarding the timeline, I still think that LoL was probably 2, maybe 3 years prior to the events of "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree" and "the Heart is a Lonely Hunter", making Snow at most 18 when she fled the Huntsman. and (according to my head canon) Snow was banditing at most 2 years before she met David, putting her at 20 when they met. Give them about 1-2 years of courting, and also defeating the EQ and King George, that puts Snow at 22 when we arrive at the wedding in the Pilot. and it was approximately 1 year from then to the dark curse.

      Also, Snow being 18 (or close to it) when she flees the Huntsman makes sense for another reason. Snow was due to assume the throne when she reached the appropriate age (or so I assume). Regina, as Snow's Stepmother and Leopold's widow, was simply filling the role of Queen Regent until Snow was of ruling age. Now, there is nothing stating when "Of Age" actually is, but 18 seems to be a reasonable conjecture. So, for Regina to retain the throne and have any pretense of making it look 'legitimate', she would need to have Snow removed prior to her turning 18. And with no other (known) heir to the throne, Regina, as Leopold's widow and lawful wife, would have a legimate claim of rulership.

      Of course, the murder attempt failed, but the damage was done, in that Regina successfully usurped the throne. But her rule had no legitimacy. But that is another story for another thread. The point, though, is that, assuming 18 as a reasonable age where Snow could ascend to the throne, Regina would have to have Snow removed from the ruling equation before she could ascend.

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    • I believe that Snow was around 14 in Labor of Love. But she has to have aged many years before The Fruit of the Poisonous Tree (as she aged from Bailee Madison to Geniffer Goodwin). Snow was not necessarilly 18. Maybe the age to take the thrown was 21 like in Frozen. Also, Snow could've already been old enough to be queen, but immediately after her father died she was framed by Regina and sent to be killed. "The Evil Queen" likely only takes place a few months later, as Regina is still trying to convince everyone that Snow is the murderer. At that point Belle is living with Rumpelstiltskin. She only lives with him a few months and is still there when Snow meets Charming. I would say that happens about a year after Snow is banished. She gets engaged a few months after meeting Charming. It takes them about 2 years to take back the kingdom. Then 9 months later Emma is born. This timeline is further confirmedby Belle's timeline. Lacey takes place aout 4 years before the curse, based on Roland's age. The Broken Kingdom/Heroes and Villains takes place about 3 years before the curse, 5 years before Season 5. There is a bit off confusion that these events could take place a year apart because Belle is living with Rumpelstiltskin during both of them. Either way, I estimate Belle's stay with Rumpelstiltskin was 3-4 years before the curse, meaning Snow White was banished at most 5 years before the curse. Maybe she was 21, making her 26 at the time of the curse, which is fairly close to Emma's age.

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    • Jefferson and Dr. Whale are at least as old as Regina, probably older. To be a scientist, even in the fairy tale world, Victor would probably have been in his 20s. Jefferson has a 10 year old daughter at the time of the curse, probably making him in his late 30s. Neither one of them appear any younger in the flashback.

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    • How old is Hook? His actor was only 31 at the beginning of Season2, but his character is probably older. He was in the Enchanted Forest for at least 3 years before the curse and must have aged a little bit when he was running errands for Pan. He was around 8 when his father abandoned him. Liam is 2 to 3 years older. I estimate he was around 18 when he joined the navy, 22 when Liam died, and 24 when he met Milah. This would make him around 32 when Rumple cut off his hand and at least 35 at the time of the curse.

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    • I'm going to try to approximate the birth year of every character based on hints from the show, the approximation of the tieline, and the age of the actors. These are just estimates that I am doing for fun.

      Emma 1983

      Henry 2001

      Snow 1956

      Charming 1956

      Regina 1948

      Rumpel 1809

      Gepetto 1924

      Archie 1889

      Abigail 1956

      George 1921

      Cinderella 1964

      Baelfire 1845

      Leopold 1928

      Cora 1926

      Belle 1958

      Ruby 1961

      Jefferson 1940

      Grace 1973

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      I'm going to try to approximate the birth year of every character based on hints from the show, the approximation of the tieline, and the age of the actors. These are just estimates that I am doing for fun.

      Emma 1983

      Henry 2001

      Snow 1956

      Charming 1956

      Regina 1948

      Rumpel 1809

      Gepetto 1924

      Archie 1889

      Abigail 1956

      George 1921

      Cinderella 1964

      Baelfire 1845

      Leopold 1928

      Cora 1926

      Belle 1958

      Ruby 1961

      Jefferson 1940

      Grace 1973

      Mulan 1961

      Aurora 1958

      Phillip 1958

      Hook 1828

      Liam 1826

      Milah 1816

      Dr. Frankenstein 1944

      Owen 1973

      Tamara 1985

      Eva 1830

      Robin 1948

      Marian 1948

      Roland 1979 or 1980

      Will 1948

      Wendy 1847

      John 1849

      Michael 1853

      Ariel 1956

      Eric 1956

      Zelena 1946

      Rapunzel 1965

      Walsh 1945

      Dorothy 1954

      Elsa 1956

      Anna 1959

      Kristoff 1956

      Ingrid 1920

      Helga 1922

      Gerda 1924

      Ursala 1940

      Isaac 1922

      Arthur 1951

      Guenevere 1951

      Lancelot 1951

      Percival 1964

      Violet 1973

      Merlin 950

      Apprentice 1465

      Merida 1965

      Hercules1954

      Edmond 1950

      Lady Tremaine 1932

      Aladdin 1959

      Jafar 1939

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    • A few edits based on new information:

      Red-November 1956 (The dates of Red's Untold Tale match up with May 1973, assuming the EF uses the same calendar as us. At this point Red is 16 and a half. This makes her almost 27 by the time of the curse, which is close to the actress' real age.)

      Regina-February 1, 1945 (The dates of Regina rising match up with May 1961. At this point Regina is 16. This makes her 38 at the time of the curse.)

      Snow-Winter 1954 (The Queen is Dead takes place after Regina rising. Since Regina rising takes place in May and Snow was born in the winter, it must be at least the following year. Snow is believed to turn 8 in this episode. This makes Snow 29 at the time of the curse. This makes her 1 year older than Emma, which doesn't follow any continuity issues.)

      David- 1958 (According to the timeline, The Doctor takes place before Murder Most Foul because Rumpel has the crystal ball. I don't think hat is good evidence. Rumpel could have had more than one crystal ball, but it doesn't cause any issues. Snow is 10 before David is 6, making her at least 4 years older than him. This makes David 25 at the time of the curse.)

      Cora- 1925 (I heard somewhere that Cora was only in her late 30s at the time of The Stable Boy, making her at most 20 years older than Regina.)

      Zelena- April 15, 1943 (About 2 years older than Regina)

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    • Merida was born in either 1959 or 1960. The events of S5A are said to take place approximately 10 years after Brave and they take place in 2014. The areas in S5A were presumably also frozen in time during the curse since they're in the Fairy Tale Land and Lancelot was from that area and also shown in the Enchanted Forest in the past (I don't know how to explain all the details). This would set Brave in 1976, a total of 38 years before 2014 (10 years that the characters experienced + 28 years of the first curse). This would make Merida 26 when the OUAT characters meet her (she's 16 in Brave).

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    • Snow was atleast 13 or 14 when she meet Regina. Regina would have been no older than 18 at this time. 

      I just watched the episode the queen is dead. Nowhere in the episode did it state a decade later or what Snow age was. It doesn't even say coming of Age. Wikia needs to be edited on that on. However if we were to go about the way she acted and this birthday she was being presented with a crown I would place her around 12-14 years old. The actress that played youn snow was like 12 so I would say Snow was like 12. 

      Regina would have been in the age range of 16-18 as during this time setting the average marriage age was 16 years old. I say more about 16 given that Cora isn't the type to tolerate her daughter not being married when others are. Especially given what Cora is capable of. 

      The issue with everything is that instead of finding someone else to play young Regina like they did with Young snow they just had Lana do it. So basically you have a 12 year old actress and a 30 something year old actress at this point. Ofcourse Regina is going to look years older than Snow given the actresses were atleast around 18+ years apart in age. 


      With that being said Regina would have waited no more than like 10-15 years before casting the curse. Thus Snow would be around 22-28 and Regina 26-31. However 15 years would be way to long. Personally would peg each as 24 and 28 respectfully. 

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    • KnocknickKnock wrote:
      Snow was atleast 13 or 14 when she meet Regina. Regina would have been no older than 18 at this time. 

      I just watched the episode the queen is dead. Nowhere in the episode did it state a decade later or what Snow age was. It doesn't even say coming of Age. Wikia needs to be edited on that on. However if we were to go about the way she acted and this birthday she was being presented with a crown I would place her around 12-14 years old. The actress that played youn snow was like 12 so I would say Snow was like 12. 

      Regina would have been in the age range of 16-18 as during this time setting the average marriage age was 16 years old. I say more about 16 given that Cora isn't the type to tolerate her daughter not being married when others are. Especially given what Cora is capable of. 

      The issue with everything is that instead of finding someone else to play young Regina like they did with Young snow they just had Lana do it. So basically you have a 12 year old actress and a 30 something year old actress at this point. Ofcourse Regina is going to look years older than Snow given the actresses were atleast around 18+ years apart in age. 


      With that being said Regina would have waited no more than like 10-15 years before casting the curse. Thus Snow would be around 22-28 and Regina 26-31. However 15 years would be way to long. Personally would peg each as 24 and 28 respectfully. 

      There are a few things wrong here. It is explicitly stated later in the show that Snow was 10 when she met Regina. At this point Snow's mom has been dead for a couple of years, implying that she died around Snow's eighth birthday. Emma says that she and her parents are around the same age, so Snow would have to be close to 28 at the time of the curse and Regina is clearly older than Emma.

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    • Begfhn wrote:
      KnocknickKnock wrote:
      Snow was atleast 13 or 14 when she meet Regina. Regina would have been no older than 18 at this time. 

      I just watched the episode the queen is dead. Nowhere in the episode did it state a decade later or what Snow age was. It doesn't even say coming of Age. Wikia needs to be edited on that on. However if we were to go about the way she acted and this birthday she was being presented with a crown I would place her around 12-14 years old. The actress that played youn snow was like 12 so I would say Snow was like 12. 

      Regina would have been in the age range of 16-18 as during this time setting the average marriage age was 16 years old. I say more about 16 given that Cora isn't the type to tolerate her daughter not being married when others are. Especially given what Cora is capable of. 

      The issue with everything is that instead of finding someone else to play young Regina like they did with Young snow they just had Lana do it. So basically you have a 12 year old actress and a 30 something year old actress at this point. Ofcourse Regina is going to look years older than Snow given the actresses were atleast around 18+ years apart in age. 


      With that being said Regina would have waited no more than like 10-15 years before casting the curse. Thus Snow would be around 22-28 and Regina 26-31. However 15 years would be way to long. Personally would peg each as 24 and 28 respectfully. 

      There are a few things wrong here. It is explicitly stated later in the show that Snow was 10 when she met Regina. At this point Snow's mom has been dead for a couple of years, implying that she died around Snow's eighth birthday. Emma says that she and her parents are around the same age, so Snow would have to be close to 28 at the time of the curse and Regina is clearly older than Emma.

      Where was that ever stated? Can you give me a source?


      I have watched Once multiple times and I don't remeber it ever stating how old Snow was when her mother died or when she meet Regina. They also never gave any indication on the time between the two events. All they say was Snow was Young or a kid. They at no point give any ages. 

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    • Snow said she was 10 when she met Regina when she was under the control of the mirror thing in Season 4.

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    • Begfhn wrote:
      KnocknickKnock wrote:
      Snow was atleast 13 or 14 when she meet Regina. Regina would have been no older than 18 at this time. 

      I just watched the episode the queen is dead. Nowhere in the episode did it state a decade later or what Snow age was. It doesn't even say coming of Age. Wikia needs to be edited on that on. However if we were to go about the way she acted and this birthday she was being presented with a crown I would place her around 12-14 years old. The actress that played youn snow was like 12 so I would say Snow was like 12. 

      Regina would have been in the age range of 16-18 as during this time setting the average marriage age was 16 years old. I say more about 16 given that Cora isn't the type to tolerate her daughter not being married when others are. Especially given what Cora is capable of. 

      The issue with everything is that instead of finding someone else to play young Regina like they did with Young snow they just had Lana do it. So basically you have a 12 year old actress and a 30 something year old actress at this point. Ofcourse Regina is going to look years older than Snow given the actresses were atleast around 18+ years apart in age. 


      With that being said Regina would have waited no more than like 10-15 years before casting the curse. Thus Snow would be around 22-28 and Regina 26-31. However 15 years would be way to long. Personally would peg each as 24 and 28 respectfully. 

      There are a few things wrong here. It is explicitly stated later in the show that Snow was 10 when she met Regina. At this point Snow's mom has been dead for a couple of years, implying that she died around Snow's eighth birthday. Emma says that she and her parents are around the same age, so Snow would have to be close to 28 at the time of the curse and Regina is clearly older than Emma.

      Yep, this. And I thought it was stated in interviews or something that Regina is 18 in The Stable Boy episode. Which makes Snow 8 years younger than Regina.

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    • Well, assuming suplementary materials can be used, THIS is Regina's age.

      • When Snow is 10, Regina is 18.
      • 18 years later, when the curse is cast, Regina is 36 (according to Emma in 3x01 she and her parents are "the same age"; according to the timeline in 3x11, it's less than a year between 1x01 and 3x011, so Emma is STILL 28 and Regina still 36.)
      • Then there's the "missing year"; Regina turns 37.
      • According to Fiona - and, assuming she's right - then Henry is 14 in 6x22, meaning approx 3 years have passed and Regina should be 40.
      • Then there's a gap of approximately 2 years between "The Final Battle" and Henry leaving in "Hyperion Heights", between 2015 and late 2017 as he's approx 16 years and 10 months old, meaning Regina is about 42 when Henry departs.
      • According to an interview with Lana, it's been "seven years" (for Regina, who is "older, even though she doesn't look it") at the time of the "rescue" of Henry, making her 49.
      • There's an undisclosed time gap here of more than a decade (as Henry has to get with Cinderella, get her pregnant, add the nine months pregnancy, birth and Lucy being 10 when Henry vanishes and presumably before the curse is cast) meaning Regina is, at minimum, 59 years old when the curse is cast, possibly closer to 69 if about two decades pass in the New Enchanted Forest (it took Snow and Charming about 5 years approx to defeat Regina in the original EF, so not too much of a stretch for another couple of years, adding the 10 when Lucy is growing up).
      • Add in another 6 months (nothing in Hyperion Heights says that Lucy and the others have not been aging. No-one says anything about it), meaning Regina is approximately, biologically, 70 at this point though she doesn't look it.
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    • HarryPotterRules1 wrote:
      Well, assuming suplementary materials can be used, THIS is Regina's age.
      • When Snow is 10, Regina is 18.
      • 18 years later, when the curse is cast, Regina is 36 (according to Emma in 3x01 she and her parents are "the same age"; according to the timeline in 3x11, it's less than a year between 1x01 and 3x011, so Emma is STILL 28 and Regina still 36.)

      Where was it stated from Stable boy to when she cast the curse it was 18 years? 

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    • Emma says that she and Snow and David are the same age (3x01) when they're on the boat (and Emma is still 28 at that time) so by means of deduction, there were 18 years between Regina saving Snow (aged 10) and the curse being cast (age 28). 28 - 10 = 18.

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    • Dont waste your time with this. It's impossible to get the characters ages right, unless they say it in the show. Whenever the plot needs it they can fix their ages through spells, curses and potions

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    • Regina was NOT 18 when she first met Snow, there was an episode where Cora talked about how she was becoming an "old maid" (the time when Regina was in love with Daniel, before she met Snow). She had to be in her mid 20s then, an age where most women were expected to already be married and had kids in that era.

      David and MM are definitely in their late 20s given their roles in Storybrooke

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    • Lightdark123 wrote:
      Regina was NOT 18 when she first met Snow, there was an episode where Cora talked about how she was becoming an "old maid" (the time when Regina was in love with Daniel, before she met Snow). She had to be in her mid 20s then, an age where most women were expected to already be married and had kids in that era.

      David and MM are definitely in their late 20s given their roles in Storybrooke

      Canonically, Regina was 18. Royalty get married at young ages (like 16).

      Regina is canonically 8 years older than Snow and Snow was 10, so....

      Cora was just pressuring Regina as Eva died from Cora's poison roughly the previous year.

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    • Snow is cannonically 10 when she first mets Regina. It is also widely accepted that Regina is 18 when this happens.

      Snow is around 18 when her father is killed (which makes sense since they cast Lana to play 18 year old Regina, they'd also cast Ginny to play 18 year old Snow), and she's forced out of the Castle. It could be argued that she's younger but the youngest she could be is 15 since we are told that she was given a horse on her 15th birthday (but I doubt it since in 4X15, where Snow is seen riding this new horse, Regina tells Rumple that she's learned to wait for her revenge and not rush into it).

      The next chunk of the timeline has the least amount of concrete evidence for timings: the time before Snow meets Charming, and the time before Regina trully accepts herself as the Evil Queen. All sorts of flashbacks occur in this part, Snow meets Red, Cora returns to find Regina's true love, and Rumple takes Belle. 

      Thanks to Roland we can work out (roughly) how many years go by after Snow meets Charming before the curse is cast. In 3X03 it's stated that he is 4 years old, so he must be 3 at the time the curse is cast (giving around 1 year ish from when Emma arrived in Storybrooke and breaking the curse, then 1 year until they all go back to the EF). Marian is taken by the Evil Queen at the same time that Snow meets Charming which means Roland has already been born and it takes 3 more years before they go to Storybrooke. During this time Snow is still on the run before eventually being placed under a sleeping curse. Then once Charming has woken her up they start a war with Regina and take back the kingdom. Finally Regina decides to use the curse and takes around 8 months to prepare everything and establish what she wants Storybrooke to be like.

      Adding all of those numbers up tells us that Regina cast the curse (a minimum) of 12 years after her marriage to Leopold. Like I said there could be a few more years between the death of Leopold and when Snow met Charming but for now the best we can say is 1 year.

      Regina is around 30 when she casts the curse and Snow is 22. I know a lot of people use the fact that Emma said she had parents her own age to say that Snow is 28 but I cant justify that, and just imagine that Emma was exagerating for dramatic effect.

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    • Well, noone can say that Snow was 18 when her father died. That's speculation.

      Snow got a tiny pony at the age of 15, We see an older horse, lots of tourney wins, and Ginny's voice in Enter the Dragon, yet Regina can barely do a fireball and can't even teleport. If we assume she's roughly 18 in Enter the Dragon, then more years have passed by. 

      You're more or less calculating a minimum age for Snow/David at 22, but it doesn't mean it's the exact age.

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    • Regina was not 16-18 when she married met Snow. SHe was in her mid-late 20s.

      In 3x01, Emma says to Snow "we're the same age", meaning Snow is in her late 20s. Since the curse hit less than a year after her wedding, we can assume she was the same age on her wedding day. Let's say 27 (ie. a year younger than Emma).

      In 1x02 Maleficent says "weren't you Snow White's age when you were to be married?". Meaning Regina was also in her late 20s, 25 at the youngest. Which fits with the 'old maid' comment.

      I tend to use the rule "unless they give us an exact age, just use the age the actor is". So for example, Colin was 30 when filming his first episodes, so I just put him at 30 then and 32/33 by 6x22.

      I don't think we can use our years for EF characters since they're from another dimension which seems to be set in the Middle Ages

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    • I wouldn’t take 1x02 too seriously as since season 1 they made Snow 10 eventually, not 12 (according to their casting call) and that Snow said “she thought I was prettier than her.” Season 1 also had David as being in his early 30s and Snow roughly the same age.

      It goes without say that things changed canonicity over the seasons.

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    • Yes things did change, but when did Regina's age ever change?

      I go back to the "old maid" comment made by Cora. It would make 0 sense for her to say that about a teenager.

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    • Aine1989 wrote:
      Yes things did change, but when did Regina's age ever change?

      I go back to the "old maid" comment made by Cora. It would make 0 sense for her to say that about a teenager.

      Some comments need context or overidden by other things. (After all, Cora was in her 20s and unmarried.)

      I'll just say that in season 1, Regina's age wasn't something set in stone, but definitely adult. Snow was roughly 12, Daniel was in his early 20s, both according to casting calls (I think), thus Regina was likely around 20. But let's forget about me and let's go to the writers:

      1. Jane implies that Regina's age is not a teenager, but 19 is possible? (2016)

      link: https://twitter.com/JaneEspenson/status/795439667910803456

      2. Most other instances imply a 7 to 9 year age difference between Snow and Regina

      - Regina Rising and other writer statements

      The best way to reconcile that Snow was 10 is if Regina was indeed about 19. 

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    • Primary canon (what is shown in-show) trumps secondary canon (what is said in interviews). 25-29 is roughly what was shown us in the show.

      You can't say Mal's statement in 1x02 doesn't count because other, smaller things in season 1 were also retconned. By that logic, nothing in season 1 can be taken as canon.

      Snow being 10 was also stated in canon (4x09, Snow says, very loudly "I....was...TEN")

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    • ALso question: I am only half watching season 7 (mostly youtubing KnightRook scenes) but have we been given a definite age for Lucy?

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    • To each their own, I attempt to reconcile as somethings are less than apparent. (Like Emma said her parents are the same age, but it's obviously not likely to be true) I ignore certain aspects of the canon as some gets contradictory. If a book and a show is canon, then the writers help clarify.So, Regina was around 19. Nothing actually says Regina's age and the "old maid" doesn't imply an age.

      Lucy is 10. I don't really think it's stated as they really don't talk about her, but Eddy said 9/10.

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    • So if Lucy is 10.... That means the CS baby would be 10/11, since they would be a year, at most, older than Lucy.

      Does unborn CS foetus count as a character?

      I obviously don't think she meant they were exactly her age but around there. Mid-late 20s at least

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    • Aine1989 wrote:
      So if Lucy is 10.... That means the CS baby would be 10/11, since they would be a year, at most, older than Lucy.

      Does unborn CS foetus count as a character?

      Not as of yet. There are weird time mechanics going on this season. 

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    • So..... does this episode mean that Lucy is offically 8 years old?

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    • Aine1989 wrote:
      So..... does this episode mean that Lucy is offically 8 years old?

      No, 10. It seems they've been cursed for about 2 years approx.

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    • Eddy did say 9, then they said 10, so they've probably been curse for about a year or two. 

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    • That makes sense because in 7X08 Jacinda says she hasn't seen Nick in 10 years and she believes he is Lucy's father.

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    • This is completely off topic but when about do you think Peter Pan/Malcolm would’ve been born? I’ve tried to figure it out but I just guess it was probably sometime in the 1700’s

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    • Rwo

      Idk about Malcolm, but Neal, what an unlikely coincidence and according to his wanted poster, met Henry on his 35th birthday, March 23th 2012.

      Which would mean that Mary Margaret's birthday's on March 24th, not exactly winter tho if one was especially rough it could be so because of its length.

      I tried to note every single clue from every dialogue or simply watching how many days would pass by since Valentine's Day, Miners' Day, Kathryn's disappearance with her phone records (she went missing for roughly a week as revealed in "The Stable Boy"), Mary Margaret going back to work asap etc. Her and Emma's journey in the EF was kind of a trick with two timelines to keep in mind, but since time is supposed to go at the same pace between the two worlds, I had the Netherworld scenes and eventually the last day of this little trip to locate every event anyway.

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    • Rwo wrote:
      Idk about Malcolm, but Neal, what an unlikely coincidence and according to his wanted poster, met Henry on his 35th birthday, March 23th 2012.

      Which would mean that Mary Margaret's birthday's on March 24th, not exactly winter tho if one was especially rough it could be so because of its length.

      I tried to note every single clue from every dialogue or simply watching how many days would pass by since Valentine's Day, Miners' Day, Kathryn's disappearance with her phone records (she went missing for roughly a week as revealed in "The Stable Boy"), Mary Margaret going back to work asap etc. Her and Emma's journey in the EF was kind of a trick with two timelines to keep in mind, but since time is supposed to go at the same pace between the two worlds, I had the Netherworld scenes and eventually the last day of this little trip to locate every event anyway.

      We have no clue of Neal's actual birthdate. March 23rd is a false date, because everything about Neal is false. I would assume MM's birthday falls sometime in actual winter (Dec. 21 - Mar. 20). The writers were never good with exact dates though.

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    • HarryPotterRules1 wrote: Well, assuming suplementary materials can be used, THIS is Regina's age.

      • When Snow is 10, Regina is 18.
      • 18 years later, when the curse is cast, Regina is 36 (according to Emma in 3x01 she and her parents are "the same age"; according to the timeline in 3x11, it's less than a year between 1x01 and 3x011, so Emma is STILL 28 and Regina still 36.)
      • Then there's the "missing year"; Regina turns 37.
      • According to Fiona - and, assuming she's right - then Henry is 14 in 6x22, meaning approx 3 years have passed and Regina should be 40.
      • Then there's a gap of approximately 2 years between "The Final Battle" and Henry leaving in "Hyperion Heights", between 2015 and late 2017 as he's approx 16 years and 10 months old, meaning Regina is about 42 when Henry departs.
      • According to an interview with Lana, it's been "seven years" (for Regina, who is "older, even though she doesn't look it") at the time of the "rescue" of Henry, making her 49.
      • There's an undisclosed time gap here of more than a decade (as Henry has to get with Cinderella, get her pregnant, add the nine months pregnancy, birth and Lucy being 10 when Henry vanishes and presumably before the curse is cast) meaning Regina is, at minimum, 59 years old when the curse is cast, possibly closer to 69 if about two decades pass in the New Enchanted Forest (it took Snow and Charming about 5 years approx to defeat Regina in the original EF, so not too much of a stretch for another couple of years, adding the 10 when Lucy is growing up).
      • Add in another 6 months (nothing in Hyperion Heights says that Lucy and the others have not been aging. No-one says anything about it), meaning Regina is approximately, biologically, 70 at this point though she doesn't look it.

      This age is far too old. Margot is currently 25-27 and Zelena is a few years older than Regina which does not even fit into your timeline. A decade younger works because the first part of your timeline works. It’s confirmed that it should be 36-ish years since the casting of the curse do to Henry’s graduation meaning yay JMo is the age of Emma now. Regina is biologically several years older so more than 36/37 and less than 45. Then a few years pass and Henry recasts putting Regina a bit more than 45 likely now, then like a decade passes putting Regina in her mid to late fifties right now.

      This puts Henry in his early 30s, Jace similar and Lucy at eleven due to three birthday candles as the curse broke. Margot has clearly spent some time in a realm where she aged faster as has Alice but they are in their late twenties, Margot likely at 28 and Tilly close to that. Tiana/Sabine is around Henry/Jace’s age while Nook is likely in his early fifties, but possibly mid-forties depending on if he can actually age in his new form, and at 2018 Hook would be about forty. Kelly is likely in the late fifties early sixties and Chad is likely that age, maybe a bit younger but not too much. Ivy is likely in her mid to late twenties while Ana seems to be a few years older than Lucy. Biologically Rumple was still in his early fifties and is also by now has almost lived 250 years. Gothel could be millennia old as is Seraphina though they both look in their twenties in human biology due to magic. This also makes Merlin the third oldest person in the realms at his death. Figuring out Snow and david is impossible and so I won’t even try.

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    • Rwo

      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      We have no clue of Neal's actual birthdate. March 23rd is a false date, because everything about Neal is false.

      Which is why I wrote "according to his wanted poster" x)
      I still need to clarify the 3A timeline with the week they spent in Neverland, but it would be very funny for Zelena to reunite with her sister on her own birthday April 15th! ^^

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    • Also, can we apply LWM calender to the Enchanted Forest? I'm not entirely sure we can, myself...

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    • Rwo

      They use our world's months and number of days. Now is it the same day between the two worlds (say it's winter in Maine while it's summer in the EF), I have no idea.

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    • I wouldn’t bother as I’m pretty sure we are putting more thought into it than the writers.

      As far as we are aware of FTL and many other realms use our Days of the week and standard year, because...reasons.

      Most worlds are on the same timeflow as each other and seasons are not relevant as if you lived in Agrabah, I doubt you’d notice a thing.

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    • I have noticed something... Aurora is the same age as Regina, if not older??? In 415 (I think that was Enter the Dragon, right?) the flashbacks take place before Regina becomes... the Evil Queen herself. Therefore Aurora would be at least 8 years older than Snow, although looking younger biologically (by season 2 Aurora looks like she is in her late teens/early 20s while Snow is already a mature +25 woman).

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    • Rwo

      The Sleeping Curse is quite useful in preserving bodies. Look at Brennan.

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    • Black Necked Swan wrote:
      I have noticed something... Aurora is the same age as Regina, if not older??? In 415 (I think that was Enter the Dragon, right?) the flashbacks take place before Regina becomes... the Evil Queen herself. Therefore Aurora would be at least 8 years older than Snow, although looking younger biologically (by season 2 Aurora looks like she is in her late teens/early 20s while Snow is already a mature +25 woman).

      Aurora and Phillip didn't age for several years due to the sleeping curse and Yaogoui curse respectivly. Then, of course, they didn't age because of the Dark Curse. As Rwo points out, the sleeping curse seems to preseve the age of the body as it is when the curse is first applyed.

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    • Rwo

      Plus Snow is shown to be already a young woman herself at the beginning of "Enter the Dragon", so it looks like both princesses are roughly the same age at this point.

      EDIT: Speaking of "Enter the Dragon", Snow seems to have won 17 medals. Does it mean she is 27?

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    • Rwo wrote:
      Plus Snow is shown to be already a young woman herself at the beginning of "Enter the Dragon", so it looks like both princesses are roughly the same age at this point.

      EDIT: Speaking of "Enter the Dragon", Snow seems to have won 17 medals. Does it mean she is 27?

      No, because you can win more than one medal/ribbon/award a year. Think of the Olympics. Lots of athletes win multiple medals because they compete in multiple events.

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    • Whoa, at Young Snow somehow being 27! Tournaments and such could easily be monthly, quarterly and numerous categories.

      In any case, Serum Queen tells us that Snow got her horse at 15, and it was trained but still young at 15 1/2.

      Snow was likely 18/19 around that time.

      We really don’t have much other context because Regina is the show’s slowest learning magic user of all time.

      If we take deleted scenes into context (of whatever skill she supposedly had)...she could barely handle teleporting and fireballs from Snow being 10 to Snow’s early 20s. I doubt Snow was anyolder than late teens which ties in decently with Red’s Age.

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