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  • Any clues as to whether Once Upon a Time viewers are literally going to “hell” aka the Underworld, and if so, as a whole cast? Or is it possible it comes to Storybrooke? –Karen

    Details — on any confirmed trip to Hell or otherwise – are scarce thus far, but this much I can share: For an early Season 5B episode, the ABC series is guest-casting the roles of a “dashing, strapping young man” who is “single-minded in his pursuit of his destiny: to be the greatest hero who ever lived” and a “plucky, 18-year-old female adventurer with a sly sense of humor and a tough, no-nonsense spirit.”

    source: http://tvline.com/2015/10/29/arrow-season-4-felicitys-mother-returns-spoilers/


    Sounds like Hercules and Megara are coming.

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    • Who is Megara in Greek Myth?

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    • CadoDoan wrote:
      Who is Megara in Greek Myth?

      Wife of Hercules and mother of his children :) When Hera made Hercules as crazy as hell, he killed Megara and their children. To regain his honor, an oracle advised him to do his 12 labours :)

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    • Defenitely Hercules and Megara. Though I hope that they will name him Heracles in the show. Heracles is his true name in Greek Mythology, Hercules is a Roman name. I don't know why Disney decided to call him Hercules then

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    • They'll prolly keep Hercules cos of Disney.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      CadoDoan wrote:
      Who is Megara in Greek Myth?
      Wife of Hercules and mother of his children :) When Hera made Hercules as crazy as hell, he killed Megara and their children. To regain his honor, an oracle advised him to do his 12 labours :)

      Oh yes I remember those 12 labours, thanks. But I still don't think that Greek Myths will fit into OUAT world. I know there is King Midas, Medusa and Fury. But I always thought that those are just references and I think this would be better to keep it that way

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    • Sigh, Herc and Meg, sigh.

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    • YAY HERCULES AND MEG XD

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    • that man sounds a bit self-centered and arrogant. 

      COME ON I don't want Hercules and Megara, for crying out loud.

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    • ah guest stars for an early 5B episode, if its for an episode only, I don't care.

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    • Oh... Oops. I didn't see this until I made mine... Sorry. Is there a way to merge threads? I know other forums can do this.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Oh... Oops. I didn't see this until I made mine... Sorry. Is there a way to merge threads? I know other forums can do this.

      Well, I closed it, lol. First come, first serve, unless you alter your thread topic.

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    • Please let OUaT go dark with Hercules, and have his journey to become a hero turn him into a villian.... it would actually fit the myth.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Oh... Oops. I didn't see this until I made mine... Sorry. Is there a way to merge threads? I know other forums can do this.
      Well, I closed it, lol. First come, first serve, unless you alter your thread topic.

      Well, mine did speculate on whether deceased characters come back and who everyone would like to see come back to life. Does that count if I change the title? :P

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Please let OUaT go dark with Hercules, and have his journey to become a hero turn him into a villian.... it would actually fit the myth.

      I hope so to.....well, not the villain part, but tormented like he was in myth. All I want is Hera to be the Villain that she truly was and stop with Disney's butchering of mythology. I know Once can't resist evil cleavage.

      I sort of don't have the same hype for Hercules, etc because if you have ever played Kingdom Hearts......I'm now exhausted. That and some desert friendly folk as well.

      Also, I'm going to sound odd, but can they drop the whole hero thing. It makes sense but they have offically said hero a bajillion times and have had Regina talk about becoming a hero, Hook questioning if he's a hero, Rumple learning anger ...bravery to become a hero, Henry tryong to impress Violet by becoming a hero (although he is one already), Snow and Charming bragging about being heroes, Emma saying "Make {insert pronoun or name} into a hero", Zelena criticizing Regina claims to be a hero, Belle trying and failing and actually beoming a hero, and Rumple turning some into villains and others into heroes, Cruella chatting evily about those "heroes", ursula claiming that heroes defeat them, Isaac getting applause for his twists on villains and heroes.......and many. many more and this was just the past season and so.

      Can we just go back to "clouding [our] judgement" and "cleave" ourselves of "hero" anmd "villain", before the "stars align" and my "potential for darkness" grows immensely. We can't let this "go in vain".

      Note: All the quoted phrases are the most repeatedand annoying dialogue within the show

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    • If this are Heracles and Megera than I hope it's just for one episode, they shouldn't take the Greek Myth road (or the Roman). I'm okay with the Underworld being introduced but imo the universe of it is too big, and I already thought that doing Camelot was a huge universe.

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    • DarKingdomHearts wrote:
      If this are Heracles and Megera than I hope it's just for one episode, they shouldn't take the Greek Myth road (or the Roman). I'm okay with the Underworld being introduced but imo the universe of it is too big, and I already thought that doing Camelot was a huge universe.

      Don't worry! They'll shrink it down and make the Olympians one, big dysfunctional family sharing one house and dressed like peasants.

      One thing I am worried about, Super Strength!!!!!! Please don't make that a thing. It's his major forte but I can't deal with that. Superhuman strength like the Dark One and stuff, ok, but nothing too major.

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    • eeeiiiiii!!!! I got my wish! :D Finally, some Greek mythology.

      And I bet they'll use the apple of discord somehow, and that means Eris might show up, which would probably mean that we'd also see Hera and Athena! Eeeeiii!!!!!! XD 

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    • Hercules and Megera. First time i'm not excited for the new characters.

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    • My god

      Hercules and Megara!

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      My god

      Hercules and Megara!

      Finally, someone else who seems as excited as I am. Everyone else is acting like a bunch of wet blankets. :P

      Hercules is one of my favorite movies of all time (right up there with Mulan, TLM and Tarzan!) Now that we've had Ariel, Mulan and now Hercules, I cannot WAIT for Tarzan!

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      8Rob wrote:
      My god

      Hercules and Megara!

      Finally, someone else who seems as excited as I am. Everyone else is acting like a bunch of wet blankets. :P

      Hercules is one of my favorite movies of all time (right up there with Mulan, TLM and Tarzan!) Now that we've had Ariel, Mulan and now Hercules, I cannot WAIT for Tarzan!

      If they have a Tarzan arc, I would quit the show! (well if I could, but I can't).

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:

      Finally, someone else who seems as excited as I am. Everyone else is acting like a bunch of wet blankets. :P

      I do not think it is so much a bunch of wet blankets, more that people do not want the Disney versions of Hercules and Megera. The original myths were a lot more interesting and complex.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      8Rob wrote:
      My god

      Hercules and Megara!

      Finally, someone else who seems as excited as I am. Everyone else is acting like a bunch of wet blankets. :P

      Hercules is one of my favorite movies of all time (right up there with Mulan, TLM and Tarzan!) Now that we've had Ariel, Mulan and now Hercules, I cannot WAIT for Tarzan!

      If they have a Tarzan arc, I would quit the show! (well if I could, but I can't).

      Never said a Tarzan ARC. Ariel hardly got an arc, but I still love her.

      Though I do have a perfect idea for a Tarzan arc, though it'd focus more on Jane instead.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:

      Finally, someone else who seems as excited as I am. Everyone else is acting like a bunch of wet blankets. :P

      I do not think it is so much a bunch of wet blankets, more that people do not want the Disney versions of Hercules and Megera. The original myths were a lot more interesting and complex.

      Disney or mythical, I don't really care. We all know there's going to be equal parts Disney, equal parts myth and equal parts Once-ified. So I'm extremely excited about this.

      And just because Hades is seemingly being set up as an antagonist doesn't necessarily mean he's evil.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Oh... Oops. I didn't see this until I made mine... Sorry. Is there a way to merge threads? I know other forums can do this.

      Here I posted your response from the other thread:

      Hades - a mysterious, dangerous and vindictive God-like figure known obscurely as "Distinguished Gentleman" or DG

      Hercules - a dashing, strapping young man who is single-minded in his pursuit of his destiny: to be the greatest hero who ever lived

      Megara - a plucky, 18-year old female adventurer with a sly sense of humor and a tough, no-nonsense spirit

      I AM SO EXCITED! And the episode's title suggests we might see a lot of deceased characters, especially when taking into account Adam's statement about bringing back more old faces!

      The dead characters I want to see are Graham (obviously!), Nealfire (obviously!), Ingrid (I love her, don't judge me, and she could be an ally!), Cruella (she was gone too soon!), Lizard (another one who was gone too soon! Plus connectivity with Wonderland!) and Cora, who will obviously now be married to Hades, since Cora is another name for Persephone, the Queen of the Underworld. Cora's a power-hungry witch. I doubt she'd let any other title be given to her other than Queen.

      Who do you guys wanna see back?

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Oh... Oops. I didn't see this until I made mine... Sorry. Is there a way to merge threads? I know other forums can do this.
      Here I posted your response from the other thread:

      Hades - a mysterious, dangerous and vindictive God-like figure known obscurely as "Distinguished Gentleman" or DG

      Hercules - a dashing, strapping young man who is single-minded in his pursuit of his destiny: to be the greatest hero who ever lived

      Megara - a plucky, 18-year old female adventurer with a sly sense of humor and a tough, no-nonsense spirit

      I AM SO EXCITED! And the episode's title suggests we might see a lot of deceased characters, especially when taking into account Adam's statement about bringing back more old faces!

      The dead characters I want to see are Graham (obviously!), Nealfire (obviously!), Ingrid (I love her, don't judge me, and she could be an ally!), Cruella (she was gone too soon!), Lizard (another one who was gone too soon! Plus connectivity with Wonderland!) and Cora, who will obviously now be married to Hades, since Cora is another name for Persephone, the Queen of the Underworld. Cora's a power-hungry witch. I doubt she'd let any other title be given to her other than Queen.

      Who do you guys wanna see back?

      Thanks. LOL

      I stand by what I said. I want them back lol

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Oh... Oops. I didn't see this until I made mine... Sorry. Is there a way to merge threads? I know other forums can do this.
      Here I posted your response from the other thread:

      Hades - a mysterious, dangerous and vindictive God-like figure known obscurely as "Distinguished Gentleman" or DG

      Hercules - a dashing, strapping young man who is single-minded in his pursuit of his destiny: to be the greatest hero who ever lived

      Megara - a plucky, 18-year old female adventurer with a sly sense of humor and a tough, no-nonsense spirit

      I AM SO EXCITED! And the episode's title suggests we might see a lot of deceased characters, especially when taking into account Adam's statement about bringing back more old faces!

      The dead characters I want to see are Graham (obviously!), Nealfire (obviously!), Ingrid (I love her, don't judge me, and she could be an ally!), Cruella (she was gone too soon!), Lizard (another one who was gone too soon! Plus connectivity with Wonderland!) and Cora, who will obviously now be married to Hades, since Cora is another name for Persephone, the Queen of the Underworld. Cora's a power-hungry witch. I doubt she'd let any other title be given to her other than Queen.

      Who do you guys wanna see back?

      Thanks. LOL

      I stand by what I said. I want them back lol

      I agree with everything you said. It seems like DG is Hades, Male Char is Herc, and Female Char is Meg. We will see lots of the dead characters back via the Underworld, and Cora will be Persephone, aka Queen of the Underworld (even death couldn't stop Cora's power-hungriness XD). I can't believe Persephone was also know as Cora, I did not know that before you said it, and then I double checked using Wikipedia, and I just about fell off my chair. If Adam and Eddy had this planned the whole time they are geniuses! I'm super excited! Everyone can't handle the awesome! I need it to be March already! Yay!!!

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Oh... Oops. I didn't see this until I made mine... Sorry. Is there a way to merge threads? I know other forums can do this.
      Here I posted your response from the other thread:

      Hades - a mysterious, dangerous and vindictive God-like figure known obscurely as "Distinguished Gentleman" or DG

      Hercules - a dashing, strapping young man who is single-minded in his pursuit of his destiny: to be the greatest hero who ever lived

      Megara - a plucky, 18-year old female adventurer with a sly sense of humor and a tough, no-nonsense spirit

      I AM SO EXCITED! And the episode's title suggests we might see a lot of deceased characters, especially when taking into account Adam's statement about bringing back more old faces!

      The dead characters I want to see are Graham (obviously!), Nealfire (obviously!), Ingrid (I love her, don't judge me, and she could be an ally!), Cruella (she was gone too soon!), Lizard (another one who was gone too soon! Plus connectivity with Wonderland!) and Cora, who will obviously now be married to Hades, since Cora is another name for Persephone, the Queen of the Underworld. Cora's a power-hungry witch. I doubt she'd let any other title be given to her other than Queen.

      Who do you guys wanna see back?

      Thanks. LOL

      I stand by what I said. I want them back lol

      I agree with everything you said. It seems like DG is Hades, Male Char is Herc, and Female Char is Meg. We will see lots of the dead characters back via the Underworld, and Cora will be Persephone, aka Queen of the Underworld (even death couldn't stop Cora's power-hungriness XD). I can't believe Persephone was also know as Cora, I did not know that before you said it, and then I double checked using Wikipedia, and I just about fell off my chair. If Adam and Eddy had this planned the whole time they are geniuses! I'm super excited! Everyone can't handle the awesome! I need it to be March already! Yay!!!

      There's no way in Hell (ha!) that they realized the Queen of Hearts could also be the Queen of Hades (Hades is also the name of the Underworld, not just the God).

      But in an interesting parallel, Regina is obsessed with apples. Persephone was cursed by a pomegranate. Both fruits are top suspects for the Biblical Forbidden Fruit, specifically the pomegranate, which when eaten by Persephone, made her stay with her husband Hades in fall and winter.

      The last post in this forum thread explains the connection between Kore (Cora) and Persephone more than I ever could.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Oh... Oops. I didn't see this until I made mine... Sorry. Is there a way to merge threads? I know other forums can do this.
      Here I posted your response from the other thread:

      Hades - a mysterious, dangerous and vindictive God-like figure known obscurely as "Distinguished Gentleman" or DG

      Hercules - a dashing, strapping young man who is single-minded in his pursuit of his destiny: to be the greatest hero who ever lived

      Megara - a plucky, 18-year old female adventurer with a sly sense of humor and a tough, no-nonsense spirit

      I AM SO EXCITED! And the episode's title suggests we might see a lot of deceased characters, especially when taking into account Adam's statement about bringing back more old faces!

      The dead characters I want to see are Graham (obviously!), Nealfire (obviously!), Ingrid (I love her, don't judge me, and she could be an ally!), Cruella (she was gone too soon!), Lizard (another one who was gone too soon! Plus connectivity with Wonderland!) and Cora, who will obviously now be married to Hades, since Cora is another name for Persephone, the Queen of the Underworld. Cora's a power-hungry witch. I doubt she'd let any other title be given to her other than Queen.

      Who do you guys wanna see back?

      Thanks. LOL

      I stand by what I said. I want them back lol

      I agree with everything you said. It seems like DG is Hades, Male Char is Herc, and Female Char is Meg. We will see lots of the dead characters back via the Underworld, and Cora will be Persephone, aka Queen of the Underworld (even death couldn't stop Cora's power-hungriness XD). I can't believe Persephone was also know as Cora, I did not know that before you said it, and then I double checked using Wikipedia, and I just about fell off my chair. If Adam and Eddy had this planned the whole time they are geniuses! I'm super excited! Everyone can't handle the awesome! I need it to be March already! Yay!!!
      There's no way in Hell (ha!) that they realized the Queen of Hearts could also be the Queen of Hades (Hades is also the name of the Underworld, not just the God).

      But in an interesting parallel, Regina is obsessed with apples. Persephone was cursed by a pomegranate. Both fruits are top suspects for the Biblical Forbidden Fruit, specifically the pomegranate, which when eaten by Persephone, made her stay with her husband Hades in fall and winter.

      The last post in this forum thread explains the connection between Kore (Cora) and Persephone more than I ever could.

      I'm betting Cora's mother is Demeter as well, who better to court a miller then the Goddess of Farming and Agruculture. XD

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    • Ughhh please not Hercules and Megara

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Oh... Oops. I didn't see this until I made mine... Sorry. Is there a way to merge threads? I know other forums can do this.
      Here I posted your response from the other thread:

      Hades - a mysterious, dangerous and vindictive God-like figure known obscurely as "Distinguished Gentleman" or DG

      Hercules - a dashing, strapping young man who is single-minded in his pursuit of his destiny: to be the greatest hero who ever lived

      Megara - a plucky, 18-year old female adventurer with a sly sense of humor and a tough, no-nonsense spirit

      I AM SO EXCITED! And the episode's title suggests we might see a lot of deceased characters, especially when taking into account Adam's statement about bringing back more old faces!

      The dead characters I want to see are Graham (obviously!), Nealfire (obviously!), Ingrid (I love her, don't judge me, and she could be an ally!), Cruella (she was gone too soon!), Lizard (another one who was gone too soon! Plus connectivity with Wonderland!) and Cora, who will obviously now be married to Hades, since Cora is another name for Persephone, the Queen of the Underworld. Cora's a power-hungry witch. I doubt she'd let any other title be given to her other than Queen.

      Who do you guys wanna see back?

      Thanks. LOL

      I stand by what I said. I want them back lol

      I agree with everything you said. It seems like DG is Hades, Male Char is Herc, and Female Char is Meg. We will see lots of the dead characters back via the Underworld, and Cora will be Persephone, aka Queen of the Underworld (even death couldn't stop Cora's power-hungriness XD). I can't believe Persephone was also know as Cora, I did not know that before you said it, and then I double checked using Wikipedia, and I just about fell off my chair. If Adam and Eddy had this planned the whole time they are geniuses! I'm super excited! Everyone can't handle the awesome! I need it to be March already! Yay!!!
      There's no way in Hell (ha!) that they realized the Queen of Hearts could also be the Queen of Hades (Hades is also the name of the Underworld, not just the God).

      But in an interesting parallel, Regina is obsessed with apples. Persephone was cursed by a pomegranate. Both fruits are top suspects for the Biblical Forbidden Fruit, specifically the pomegranate, which when eaten by Persephone, made her stay with her husband Hades in fall and winter.

      The last post in this forum thread explains the connection between Kore (Cora) and Persephone more than I ever could.

      I'm betting Cora's mother is Demeter as well, who better to court a miller then the Goddess of Farming and Agruculture. XD

      I doubt they'd make Cora a demi-goddess. Though that would explain her affinity for magic and how Zelena was born so powerful despite Cora not even having learned magic yet.

      Plus, if her mother was Demeter, Goddess of the Harvest, wouldn't Cora... Y'know, never go hungry and thus technically not be poor?

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    • I don't get it. Hercules wasn't even good, why are they doing it? I guess they just don't learn from past mistakes... 😥

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Oh... Oops. I didn't see this until I made mine... Sorry. Is there a way to merge threads? I know other forums can do this.
      Here I posted your response from the other thread:

      Hades - a mysterious, dangerous and vindictive God-like figure known obscurely as "Distinguished Gentleman" or DG

      Hercules - a dashing, strapping young man who is single-minded in his pursuit of his destiny: to be the greatest hero who ever lived

      Megara - a plucky, 18-year old female adventurer with a sly sense of humor and a tough, no-nonsense spirit

      I AM SO EXCITED! And the episode's title suggests we might see a lot of deceased characters, especially when taking into account Adam's statement about bringing back more old faces!

      The dead characters I want to see are Graham (obviously!), Nealfire (obviously!), Ingrid (I love her, don't judge me, and she could be an ally!), Cruella (she was gone too soon!), Lizard (another one who was gone too soon! Plus connectivity with Wonderland!) and Cora, who will obviously now be married to Hades, since Cora is another name for Persephone, the Queen of the Underworld. Cora's a power-hungry witch. I doubt she'd let any other title be given to her other than Queen.

      Who do you guys wanna see back?

      Thanks. LOL

      I stand by what I said. I want them back lol

      I agree with everything you said. It seems like DG is Hades, Male Char is Herc, and Female Char is Meg. We will see lots of the dead characters back via the Underworld, and Cora will be Persephone, aka Queen of the Underworld (even death couldn't stop Cora's power-hungriness XD). I can't believe Persephone was also know as Cora, I did not know that before you said it, and then I double checked using Wikipedia, and I just about fell off my chair. If Adam and Eddy had this planned the whole time they are geniuses! I'm super excited! Everyone can't handle the awesome! I need it to be March already! Yay!!!
      There's no way in Hell (ha!) that they realized the Queen of Hearts could also be the Queen of Hades (Hades is also the name of the Underworld, not just the God).

      But in an interesting parallel, Regina is obsessed with apples. Persephone was cursed by a pomegranate. Both fruits are top suspects for the Biblical Forbidden Fruit, specifically the pomegranate, which when eaten by Persephone, made her stay with her husband Hades in fall and winter.

      The last post in this forum thread explains the connection between Kore (Cora) and Persephone more than I ever could.

      I'm betting Cora's mother is Demeter as well, who better to court a miller then the Goddess of Farming and Agruculture. XD

      I doubt they'd make Cora a demi-goddess. Though that would explain her affinity for magic and how Zelena was born so powerful despite Cora not even having learned magic yet.

      Plus, if her mother was Demeter, Goddess of the Harvest, wouldn't Cora... Y'know, never go hungry and thus technically not be poor?

      Perhaps Demeter had a falling out with the miller and left him and Cora to starve? (because the show obviously needs more villain parents). Even if the original has Demeter love Persephone, it could be an interesting twist on it.

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    • Yay Herc and Meg (hopefully)! Meg is one of my favourite characters so including her would be amazing. Hopefully they have a Merida/Aurora/Mulan/Phillip like role during the arc. DG is most defiantly Hades.

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    • Also, there are photos ciculating (within the OUAT shooting location peeps) that in Stroybrooke, there are two guys roaming around, and they are believed to be Pain and Panic from Hercules.

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    • Am I the only one who thinks all of this is really tacky. Underworld, dead people returning, greek gods, Hercules - it seems too much, I think we're headed towards another mess like 4B.

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    • Farerb wrote:
      Am I the only one who thinks all of this is really tacky. Underworld, dead people returning, greek gods, Hercules - it seems too much, I think we're headed towards another mess like 4B.

      I don't think 4B was a mess. But I do know that this underworld thing is going to be a crap. I mean this once upon a time. Fairytales and legends. Not greek gods and their complex relationships. Now I am even considering to quit the show. The show is getting more and more ridicilous. God knows what nonsense will present in Season 6

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    • CadoDoan wrote:

      I don't think 4B was a mess. I do know that this underworld thing is going to be a crap. I mean this once upon a time. Fairytales and legends. Not greek gods and their complex relationships. Now I am even considering to quit the show. The show is getting more and more ridicilous. God knows what nonsense will present in Season 6

      If you want to quit watching, go right ahead.... no one is stopping you.

      Except, that Greek mythology was woven into the fabric of OUaT since day 1. Prince Charming battled a siren in S1, while Snow White killed Medusa in S3. We were even intoduced to Poseidon the Lord of the Seas, last season. OUaT is about modernizing fairytales and legends, by giving these classic charaters depth and complex realationships. It does not get more classic and complex, than Greek mythology.

      Stop assuming that we are only going to see the Underworld. That is probably just the bridge between the two arcs. The overall theme of S5 seems to be, the unpaid price of magic. Similar, to how S4  had Operation Mongoose.

      The only dead character that was confirmed, for an episode was Cora. She has made an appearance in every season, thus far. So it should not come as a surprise, that she would reappear in the 100th episode. 

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      CadoDoan wrote:

      I don't think 4B was a mess. I do know that this underworld thing is going to be a crap. I mean this once upon a time. Fairytales and legends. Not greek gods and their complex relationships. Now I am even considering to quit the show. The show is getting more and more ridicilous. God knows what nonsense will present in Season 6

      If you want to quit watching, go right ahead.... no one is stopping you.

      Except, that Greek mythology was woven into the fabric of OUaT since day 1. Prince Charming battled a siren in S1, while Snow White killed Medusa in S3. We were even intoduced to Poseidon the Lord of the Seas, last season. OUaT is about modernizing fairytales and legends, by giving these classic charaters depth and complex realationships. It does not get more classic and complex, than Greek mythology.

      Stop assuming that we are only going to see the Underworld. That is probably just the bridge between the two arcs. The overall theme of S5 seems to be, the unpayed price of magic. Similar, to how S4  had Operation Mongoose.

      The only dead character that was confirmed, for an episode was Cora. She has made an appearance in every season, thus far. So it should not come as a surprised, that she would reappear in the 100th episode. 

      I just said considering. And yes. If I don't like the spring premiere, I will. I always trust Adam and Eddy with storytelling but I hope it won't turn out something absurdity, that's all I am saying :)

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    • CadoDoan wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      CadoDoan wrote:

      I don't think 4B was a mess. I do know that this underworld thing is going to be a crap. I mean this once upon a time. Fairytales and legends. Not greek gods and their complex relationships. Now I am even considering to quit the show. The show is getting more and more ridicilous. God knows what nonsense will present in Season 6

      If you want to quit watching, go right ahead.... no one is stopping you.

      Except, that Greek mythology was woven into the fabric of OUaT since day 1. Prince Charming battled a siren in S1, while Snow White killed Medusa in S3. We were even intoduced to Poseidon the Lord of the Seas, last season. OUaT is about modernizing fairytales and legends, by giving these classic charaters depth and complex realationships. It does not get more classic and complex, than Greek mythology.

      Stop assuming that we are only going to see the Underworld. That is probably just the bridge between the two arcs. The overall theme of S5 seems to be, the unpayed price of magic. Similar, to how S4  had Operation Mongoose.

      The only dead character that was confirmed, for an episode was Cora. She has made an appearance in every season, thus far. So it should not come as a surprised, that she would reappear in the 100th episode. 

      I just said considering. And yes. If I don't like the spring premiere, I will. I always trust Adam and Eddy with storytelling but I hope it won't turn out something absurdity, that's all I am saying :)

      It's all fine. You do you. We all have to wait and see.

      I myself will say that I'm not particularly excited about Herc and Meg, not because I don't like them, only partially because I got tired and sick of seeing them, but mostly because it seems like each season they take more and more from Disney each season.

      I'll explain my thoughts in another post.

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    • I would hate if they took them and had 50 % Disney. Meg is someone I always took for as an older woman than Hercules, like at least a couple years different. But even more so, Disney butchered Greek Mythology when they could have made an excellent thing with what was had. Replace Hades with Hera and you pretty much have the real version of the story.

      But you know what would have made this better. Crossing over arcs and stop being short-minded.

      You know who could train Rumple to be a hero, like he wants to be: Herc. Make Merida a rogue agent for Emma or keep her in flashback. Use Herc who actually is trying to be a hero, make a hero out of Rumple and MErida help too on occassion. That would make this upcoming stuff, much more tolerable, because they are going to do what we typically see: Bringing guest stars and drop them off to never be seen again. Every aching season!

      I want to care about these guest people but I know very well we won't see them again, so why should we care. They don't have to show up all the time, but at least sometimes be background stuff.

      Where's the Frozen gang? Off to Arendelle which will fall of the face of the map. What about Merida and Arthur's gang? They will leave and never be heard of again while they too find themselves disvovering Forgotten Character Isle. So, why would Herc, Meg and the DG be any different?

      It's called investment and that's not what they are allowing when they keep up pulling the rug from under our feet and stealing them away forever. If you don't allow me to be able to feel fully invested, then you waste 45% of the show when they are around. Well, that was what it was in Season 4's case.Throw a few wrenches and have some stay on for two more episodes after the arc is over, let them go maybe a few episodes early, but stop will the predictability.

      I want to like Herc and Meg, I really do, but why should I invest in so much, when all I know they'll do is spout verbage with the movie's title (Frozen and Brave), spout song lyrics and titles, and wear terrible outfits and look terribly like their toon counterparts.

      I know many people came to see these Disney characters come to life in a live action fantsy drama, but I did not. I came to see twists on fairytales and legends deal with the real world with fantasy drama spilling over. Not what Disney movie will show up and detract from the core characters. That being said I'll still watch it anyway because I'm sure it'll be at least decent.

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    • What if this arc has nothing to do with Hercules, Meg, Hades, or the underword? I mean right now there is no confirmation. And the people who say those things might obviously be fans who are misdirected. I for one, am not concluding anything until the episode has aired.

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    • I'm excited about this Underworld arc and can't wait to see those characters!

      Well, this was hinted in "The Price" with Charon :P   

      About Hercules and Megara..they can be similar to their Disney counterparts with personality or clothes but I doubt they'll be like Frozen or Brave (I can be wrong, of course)

      I would like to see Ingrid and Elsa at least once again. They're too connected to Emma and can't just "go away forever" (Well,Ingrid is dead but Elsa..)

      Now that the souls will appear in 5B I would like to see Ingrid and Emma together again. Now, Ingrid 's "third sister" is the Dark One. And I would like to see Cruella again, after what she did to her mother, her fathers and all those puppies, I'm curious about what happened to her in the Underworld.

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    • Actually how would Herc's story fit in Once? Presumably they are going to do the story in flashback and such, but...

      The DG is said to be "god-like", but not actually a god. What about Zeus and the others? I assume they'll still be his parents and so on. Herc's story end between choosing between immortality or being with the woman he loves. Knowing Once, it'll be choosing between being with his family (Parental love) and a girl (Romantic love) and show how Once even though it has been shown will still act like Romantic love is truer than all others.

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    • PokeFanClaire wrote:
      I'm excited about this Underworld arc and can't wait to see those characters!

      Well, this was hinted in "The Price" with Charon :P   

      About Hercules and Megara..they can be similar to their Disney counterparts with personality or clothes but I doubt they'll be like Frozen or Brave (I can be wrong, of course)

      I would like to see Ingrid and Elsa at least once again. They're too connected to Emma and can't just "go away forever" (Well,Ingrid is dead but Elsa..)

      Now that the souls will appear in 5B I would like to see Ingrid and Emma together again. Now, Ingrid 's "third sister" is the Dark One. And I would like to see Cruella again, after what she did to her mother, her fathers and all those puppies, I'm curious about what happened to her in the Underworld.

      I really don't want to see this. It will take all the seriousness of death if we suddenly see all dead characters living their afterlife in a different land. What is the point of dying if you're not really dead. So ridiculus. The dead should remain dead and their stories are done and finished.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Actually how would Herc's story fit in Once? Presumably they are going to do the story in flashback and such, but...

      Similar to general Greek mythology, the Nevengers probably need a demi-god to enter the Underworld. Being that Hercules was adapted by Disney, is it the easiest to just use him. It could be interesting if the main characters have to help perform the Labors of Hercules, as payment to Hades for the soul they want to rescue.

      I am almost certain this arc will be stuctured, in a similar fashion to the Camelot arc.... the mission in another land taking place in flashbacks, with a short time-jump to the consequences in Storybrooke.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      Actually how would Herc's story fit in Once? Presumably they are going to do the story in flashback and such, but...
      Similar to general Greek mythology, the Nevengers probably need a demi-god to enter the Underworld. Being that Hercules was adapted by Disney, is it the easiest to just use him. It could be interesting if the main characters have to help perform the Labors of Hercules, as payment to Hades for the soul they want to rescue.

      I am almost certain this arc will be stuctured, in a similar fashion to the Camelot arc.... the mission in another land taking place in flashbacks, with a short time-jump to the consequences in Storybrooke.

      My main point are something you cut out, lol.

      Herc's ending is all about choosing between immortality and romance. But they establish DG as god-like not an actual God, so presumably, Herc is human with some added abilities. Ursula was the ancient sea goddes, Poseidon is the sea king, etc.

      I do know they'd probably have Belle go on an adventure it Herc to help him resist the darkness and tell him about the strength of his heart or something like that. Pretty much Merida version 2.

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    • Farerb wrote:
      PokeFanClaire wrote:
      I'm excited about this Underworld arc and can't wait to see those characters!

      Well, this was hinted in "The Price" with Charon :P   

      About Hercules and Megara..they can be similar to their Disney counterparts with personality or clothes but I doubt they'll be like Frozen or Brave (I can be wrong, of course)

      I would like to see Ingrid and Elsa at least once again. They're too connected to Emma and can't just "go away forever" (Well,Ingrid is dead but Elsa..)

      Now that the souls will appear in 5B I would like to see Ingrid and Emma together again. Now, Ingrid 's "third sister" is the Dark One. And I would like to see Cruella again, after what she did to her mother, her fathers and all those puppies, I'm curious about what happened to her in the Underworld.

      I really don't want to see this. It will take all the seriousness of death if we suddenly see all dead characters living their afterlife in a different land. What is the point of dying if you're not really dead. So ridiculus. The dead should remain dead and their stories are done and finished.

      Say that to the Buddhists who believe in Nirvana. The Christians who believe in Heaven. The Greeks (YAY!) who believed in Hades. The Egyptians who believed in the Afterlife.

      Believing that there is life after death is a staple of most human beliefs. Not only are you criticizing the show with that statement, you are also deeply offending anyone who might believe in such things.

      Your negativity is really, really bringing me down. If you're so upset about all of this Underworld and Hercules stuff, go make your own thread where other people who are disappointed can join you.

      There's nothing wrong with not looking forward to an arc, but when you've had nothing good to say about ANYTHING since the season started, it's EXHAUSTING.

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    • (MOD) No one's opinions should be hindered or not included because they differ from yours.

      This thread is to discuss the upcoming characters, not the Underworld arc, whether you have positive or negative views.

      So, no more discussing the Underworld unless it involves these new characters. No more discussing dead characters you want to see, there's a thread for that. The name of the game is new characters, specifically guy who seems to be "Herc" and the girl who seems to be "Meg". Nothing else.

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    • Farerb wrote:

      I really don't want to see this. It will take all the seriousness of death if we suddenly see all dead characters living their afterlife in a different land. What is the point of dying if you're not really dead. So ridiculus. The dead should remain dead and their stories are done and finished.

      Spoiler alert.... Souls of the Departed is a Bruce Springsteen song. You are taking the title far too literally, and just jumping to conclusions.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Farerb wrote:
      PokeFanClaire wrote:
      I'm excited about this Underworld arc and can't wait to see those characters!

      Well, this was hinted in "The Price" with Charon :P   

      About Hercules and Megara..they can be similar to their Disney counterparts with personality or clothes but I doubt they'll be like Frozen or Brave (I can be wrong, of course)

      I would like to see Ingrid and Elsa at least once again. They're too connected to Emma and can't just "go away forever" (Well,Ingrid is dead but Elsa..)

      Now that the souls will appear in 5B I would like to see Ingrid and Emma together again. Now, Ingrid 's "third sister" is the Dark One. And I would like to see Cruella again, after what she did to her mother, her fathers and all those puppies, I'm curious about what happened to her in the Underworld.

      I really don't want to see this. It will take all the seriousness of death if we suddenly see all dead characters living their afterlife in a different land. What is the point of dying if you're not really dead. So ridiculus. The dead should remain dead and their stories are done and finished.
      Say that to the Buddhists who believe in Nirvana. The Christians who believe in Heaven. The Greeks (YAY!) who believed in Hades. The Egyptians who believed in the Afterlife.

      Believing that there is life after death is a staple of most human beliefs. Not only are you criticizing the show with that statement, you are also deeply offending anyone who might believe in such things.

      Your negativity is really, really bringing me down. If you're so upset about all of this Underworld and Hercules stuff, go make your own thread where other people who are disappointed can join you.

      There's nothing wrong with not looking forward to an arc, but when you've had nothing good to say about ANYTHING since the season started, it's EXHAUSTING.

      Don't put words in my mouth. When someone from your life pass away, you don't get to interact with them, you don't get to see what has been happening with them. it is true for every belief. Doing something will make it seem less serious and more like oh no big deal, you just moved to live in a new apartment, see ya... is that how you want it to be prtrayed?! and if you don't like my opinions then don't read them anymore.

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    • I don't mind as much that we see the departed characters living in a different land, particularly if it is some type of underworld representation. Just don't resurrect them back to the land of the living, at least not without some compelling reason.

      As for the whole Greek plots, there is enough material to do an entire show. I wouldn't mind if the did a few episodes, then planned a spinoff of Greek myth chars in our world. And maybe even use that as a means to play mash up with the mythos (include some Norse, Egyptian, and other mythos in addition to Greek).

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    • For new 5b characters, I'd like to see a Death Gods sort of thing. If the DG really is Hades and a death god (well, ruler of the Underworld), I hope we discover that there are more than one Death Gods vying for souls. You can have Hel (or Hela) trying to get some souls, Anubis, and a few others trying to debate with Hades. Then, it'll at least be reasonable that it isn't all just going to a single mythology. We know that Mjolnir seems to exist, so the Norse are around there somewhere.

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    • I'd love if they made something like Rick Riordan's The House of Hades, with two characters in the underworld trying to return and with their group of friends helpinf them to escape.

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    • SnowKingTE wrote:

      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Oh... Oops. I didn't see this until I made mine... Sorry. Is there a way to merge threads? I know other forums can do this.
      Here I posted your response from the other thread:

      Hades - a mysterious, dangerous and vindictive God-like figure known obscurely as "Distinguished Gentleman" or DG

      Hercules - a dashing, strapping young man who is single-minded in his pursuit of his destiny: to be the greatest hero who ever lived

      Megara - a plucky, 18-year old female adventurer with a sly sense of humor and a tough, no-nonsense spirit

      I AM SO EXCITED! And the episode's title suggests we might see a lot of deceased characters, especially when taking into account Adam's statement about bringing back more old faces!

      The dead characters I want to see are Graham (obviously!), Nealfire (obviously!), Ingrid (I love her, don't judge me, and she could be an ally!), Cruella (she was gone too soon!), Lizard (another one who was gone too soon! Plus connectivity with Wonderland!) and Cora, who will obviously now be married to Hades, since Cora is another name for Persephone, the Queen of the Underworld. Cora's a power-hungry witch. I doubt she'd let any other title be given to her other than Queen.

      Who do you guys wanna see back?

      Thanks. LOL

      I stand by what I said. I want them back lol

      I agree with everything you said. It seems like DG is Hades, Male Char is Herc, and Female Char is Meg. We will see lots of the dead characters back via the Underworld, and Cora will be Persephone, aka Queen of the Underworld (even death couldn't stop Cora's power-hungriness XD). I can't believe Persephone was also know as Cora, I did not know that before you said it, and then I double checked using Wikipedia, and I just about fell off my chair. If Adam and Eddy had this planned the whole time they are geniuses! I'm super excited! Everyone can't handle the awesome! I need it to be March already! Yay!!!
      There's no way in Hell (ha!) that they realized the Queen of Hearts could also be the Queen of Hades (Hades is also the name of the Underworld, not just the God).

      But in an interesting parallel, Regina is obsessed with apples. Persephone was cursed by a pomegranate. Both fruits are top suspects for the Biblical Forbidden Fruit, specifically the pomegranate, which when eaten by Persephone, made her stay with her husband Hades in fall and winter.

      The last post in this forum thread explains the connection between Kore (Cora) and Persephone more than I ever could.

      I'm betting Cora's mother is Demeter as well, who better to court a miller then the Goddess of Farming and Agruculture. XD
      I doubt they'd make Cora a demi-goddess. Though that would explain her affinity for magic and how Zelena was born so powerful despite Cora not even having learned magic yet.

      Plus, if her mother was Demeter, Goddess of the Harvest, wouldn't Cora... Y'know, never go hungry and thus technically not be poor?

      Perhaps Demeter had a falling out with the miller and left him and Cora to starve? (because the show obviously needs more villain parents). Even if the original has Demeter love Persephone, it could be an interesting twist on it.

      Oh, that's really good. Head canon accepted. Now let's see if Adam and Eddy can even come up with something half as good as that. XD

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      CadoDoan wrote:

      I don't think 4B was a mess. I do know that this underworld thing is going to be a crap. I mean this once upon a time. Fairytales and legends. Not greek gods and their complex relationships. Now I am even considering to quit the show. The show is getting more and more ridicilous. God knows what nonsense will present in Season 6

      If you want to quit watching, go right ahead.... no one is stopping you.

      Except, that Greek mythology was woven into the fabric of OUaT since day 1. Prince Charming battled a siren in S1, while Snow White killed Medusa in S3. We were even intoduced to Poseidon the Lord of the Seas, last season. OUaT is about modernizing fairytales and legends, by giving these classic charaters depth and complex realationships. It does not get more classic and complex, than Greek mythology.

      Stop assuming that we are only going to see the Underworld. That is probably just the bridge between the two arcs. The overall theme of S5 seems to be, the unpayed price of magic. Similar, to how S4  had Operation Mongoose.

      The only dead character that was confirmed, for an episode was Cora. She has made an appearance in every season, thus far. So it should not come as a surprised, that she would reappear in the 100th episode. 

      Thank you for this. I don't understand why a lot of people are freaking out over this, when it is one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show. It appeared even earlier than Charming and the Siren, with King Midas in 106. If people didn't see Greek Myths coming from a mile away, I don't know what to tell them.

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    • NickyHelp wrote:
      What if this arc has nothing to do with Hercules, Meg, Hades, or the underword? I mean right now there is no confirmation. And the people who say those things might obviously be fans who are misdirected. I for one, am not concluding anything until the episode has aired.

      We know. You literally say this all the time. And, as I said before, the fandom is right about things like this 99% of the time. We have had more than enough hints and foreshadowing between 502, and writer's comments, and 512's episode title, and these casting calls to conclude that the most likely thing is an Underworld arc. If, on the off chance, we are wrong, well there is the 1% where we are wrong. I'm pretty sure we are not on this, however.

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    • Farerb wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Farerb wrote:
      PokeFanClaire wrote:
      I'm excited about this Underworld arc and can't wait to see those characters!

      Well, this was hinted in "The Price" with Charon :P   

      About Hercules and Megara..they can be similar to their Disney counterparts with personality or clothes but I doubt they'll be like Frozen or Brave (I can be wrong, of course)

      I would like to see Ingrid and Elsa at least once again. They're too connected to Emma and can't just "go away forever" (Well,Ingrid is dead but Elsa..)

      Now that the souls will appear in 5B I would like to see Ingrid and Emma together again. Now, Ingrid 's "third sister" is the Dark One. And I would like to see Cruella again, after what she did to her mother, her fathers and all those puppies, I'm curious about what happened to her in the Underworld.

      I really don't want to see this. It will take all the seriousness of death if we suddenly see all dead characters living their afterlife in a different land. What is the point of dying if you're not really dead. So ridiculus. The dead should remain dead and their stories are done and finished.
      Say that to the Buddhists who believe in Nirvana. The Christians who believe in Heaven. The Greeks (YAY!) who believed in Hades. The Egyptians who believed in the Afterlife.

      Believing that there is life after death is a staple of most human beliefs. Not only are you criticizing the show with that statement, you are also deeply offending anyone who might believe in such things.

      Your negativity is really, really bringing me down. If you're so upset about all of this Underworld and Hercules stuff, go make your own thread where other people who are disappointed can join you.

      There's nothing wrong with not looking forward to an arc, but when you've had nothing good to say about ANYTHING since the season started, it's EXHAUSTING.

      Don't put words in my mouth. When someone from your life pass away, you don't get to interact with them, you don't get to see what has been happening with them. it is true for every belief. Doing something will make it seem less serious and more like oh no big deal, you just moved to live in a new apartment, see ya... is that how you want it to be prtrayed?! and if you don't like my opinions then don't read them anymore.

      The Greek Underworld is able to be gotten to, but is notoriously difficult to do, if you are still living. No one is suggesting they just find a magic door that lets them go visit Ingrid, Cora, Cruella, Eva, Leopold, Neal, etc. whenever they want. They would not be true to Greek Mythology, and would just be dumb all around.

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    • What a tragedy

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    • Not sure what to think, I don't know much about these characters. I hope they don't make Hercules evil, Arthur is okay because he is like that in various legends, but not Herclues too please.

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    • Maybe Emma could get Hercules, the greatest hero who ever lived, to pull the sword. Or would that be too bizarre?

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      Not sure what to think, I don't know much about these characters. I hope they don't make Hercules evil, Arthur is okay because he is like that in various legends, but not Herclues too please.

      In the myths, Hercules brutally slaughters his first wife (Megara) and their children while under a magically induced psychotic break (courtesy of his step-mother Hera, who is his mother in the Disney version and not evil).

      So they could make him unhinged. I don't think they could kill off Megara, though. She's too beloved of a Disney heroine. I could see something like the movie where Meg is trapped in the Underworld and Hercules makes a deal with Hades for her soul?

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      Not sure what to think, I don't know much about these characters. I hope they don't make Hercules evil, Arthur is okay because he is like that in various legends, but not Herclues too please.
      In the myths, Hercules brutally slaughters his first wife (Megara) and their children while under a magically induced psychotic break (courtesy of his step-mother Hera, who is his mother in the Disney version and not evil).

      So they could make him unhinged. I don't think they could kill off Megara, though. She's too beloved of a Disney heroine. I could see something like the movie where Meg is trapped in the Underworld and Hercules makes a deal with Hades for her soul?

      To be fair, Hera is not evil in the myths either, just insanly furious that her husband (Zeus) is always cheating on her.

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    • I wish more people would think positivley about the show. Once is not a show that's going to go win a ton of awards for it's amazing storytelling and writing and it's dyamic characters. It's a show made for people to enjoy watching. But I don't some of you are enjoying it. Why would it be bad for Hercules and Meg to be on the show? And why would Greek myths (arguably the most popular myths, which can be blended easily with what the show has done in the past) be such a bad thing? I don't remember anyone getting upset when Poseidon was cast, but the minute Hercules was suggested it makes a bunch of people upset??? Just....enjoy it. And if you don't like it, and least make an effort to be positive about it.

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    • Bgwinstonfc30 wrote:
      I wish more people would think positivley about the show. Once is not a show that's going to go win a ton of awards for it's amazing storytelling and writing and it's dyamic characters. It's a show made for people to enjoy watching. But I don't some of you are enjoying it. Why would it be bad for Hercules and Meg to be on the show? And why would Greek myths (arguably the most popular myths, which can be blended easily with what the show has done in the past) be such a bad thing? I don't remember anyone getting upset when Poseidon was cast, but the minute Hercules was suggested it makes a bunch of people upset??? Just....enjoy it. And if you don't like it, and least make an effort to be positive about it.

      It wasfine when it was bits here and there, but that whole underworld arc with DG, Hercules, Meg and dead people returning just has "Bad Idea" written all over it. It's just like when I've heard about Cruella and Ursula and I thought that they can't handle that many characters and it'll be just a mess, and I was right, it was a mess. Just like the upcoming arc is going to be bad.

      I qould think more positivley about the show when it is more about characters and less about searching for mushrooms. If they let the story played out instead of rushing everything in order to get to the next arc to introduce yet again unnecessary characters.

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    • Bgwinstonfc30 wrote:
      I wish more people would think positivley about the show. Once is not a show that's going to go win a ton of awards for it's amazing storytelling and writing and it's dyamic characters. It's a show made for people to enjoy watching. But I don't some of you are enjoying it. Why would it be bad for Hercules and Meg to be on the show? And why would Greek myths (arguably the most popular myths, which can be blended easily with what the show has done in the past) be such a bad thing? I don't remember anyone getting upset when Poseidon was cast, but the minute Hercules was suggested it makes a bunch of people upset??? Just....enjoy it. And if you don't like it, and least make an effort to be positive about it.

      Personally, I love Greek Myths. I have no problem with that. But I'm really bored with that situation which they introduce some characters then they go and never come back. This happened to Frozen, will happen to Arthur gang and probably these greek people.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      CadoDoan wrote:

      I don't think 4B was a mess. I do know that this underworld thing is going to be a crap. I mean this once upon a time. Fairytales and legends. Not greek gods and their complex relationships. Now I am even considering to quit the show. The show is getting more and more ridicilous. God knows what nonsense will present in Season 6

      If you want to quit watching, go right ahead.... no one is stopping you.

      Except, that Greek mythology was woven into the fabric of OUaT since day 1. Prince Charming battled a siren in S1, while Snow White killed Medusa in S3. We were even intoduced to Poseidon the Lord of the Seas, last season. OUaT is about modernizing fairytales and legends, by giving these classic charaters depth and complex realationships. It does not get more classic and complex, than Greek mythology.

      Stop assuming that we are only going to see the Underworld. That is probably just the bridge between the two arcs. The overall theme of S5 seems to be, the unpayed price of magic. Similar, to how S4  had Operation Mongoose.

      The only dead character that was confirmed, for an episode was Cora. She has made an appearance in every season, thus far. So it should not come as a surprised, that she would reappear in the 100th episode. 

      Thank you for this. I don't understand why a lot of people are freaking out over this, when it is one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show. It appeared even earlier than Charming and the Siren, with King Midas in 106. If people didn't see Greek Myths coming from a mile away, I don't know what to tell them.

      People "freaking out over it" and it being "one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show" are not mutually exclusive. 

      Of course we saw it coming from a mile away, we're not stupid. We just feel that it's very shoehorned into the show, that it doesn't fit, that these things don't mix, that the stories ONCE adverts itself to have are entirely different from a freaking Mythology, etc. And a lot of us have felt this way from the beginning.

      For me, King Midas and his storyline was the only storyline/character that didn't feel absolutely shoehorned in. It fits in with traditional "classic stories," like the rest of what's on the show. But everything else has felt terribly shoehorned in to me -- like it doesn't fit. A show about fairy tales and other classic stories, if you ask me, definitely does not need Gods and Demi-Gods and the like on it, and considering that that's like 90% of Greek Mythology, it simply doesn't fit. That's just my opinion.

      Now, as far as having seen them "coming a mile away," as you said, again, me personally, of course I always had the thought in the back of my mind that this story was, indeed, yes, very possibly something that could come down the line. That doesn't stop me, however, from hoping that they don't do it, simply because it doesn't feel right to me.

      I've kept up with the show thus far because I've largely/overall enjoyed it, and because the Greek Myths haven't been literally everywhere and all up in my face like they would be with a Greek Myths arc. Now that that's coming (or seems to be), however, for the first time, I'm seriously beginning to consider stopping keeping up with the show.

      Gods and Demigods would just add way, way too much power to the show in a very condensed set of characters. In other words, there's individuals coming on with too much individual power. This seriously unbalances everything, and kind of cheapens every arc that's come so far that has had to do with magic, because now there's going to be characters that could just undo everything or whatever with the lift of a finger. 

      That's just one of many reasons I don't like the idea. 

      But anyways, I think I'm rambling. I hope I've gotten my point across.

      OH. One other thing -- And I've said all this without adding on what everyone else has said; Like how every time we get new characters, we've been desensitized to not invest in them, because once their story is over, they most likely won't show up again; Or how 4B was an absolute disaster and this seems to be following that path; Or how 4A will turn out to be arguably the only thing that felt more shoehorned into the show than this, and how badly that turned out; Or any comment about Disney and how the show is venturing too far into Disneyland (no pun intended) by adapting too many of the classic Disney stories as they are into the show, when originally the entire point of the show was to retell these classic stories in a different, fun, creative, and all-inclusive manner. 

      So. Tl;dr It's not that we didn't see it coming, but yes we are freaking out anyways. The two aren't mutually exclusive. This arc has "TERRIBLE IDEA" written all over it in our opinion, and those're the reasons why. 

      Feel like I'm forgetting something now but oh well, if it comes back to me I'll add it.

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    • Arctucrus wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      CadoDoan wrote:

      I don't think 4B was a mess. I do know that this underworld thing is going to be a crap. I mean this once upon a time. Fairytales and legends. Not greek gods and their complex relationships. Now I am even considering to quit the show. The show is getting more and more ridicilous. God knows what nonsense will present in Season 6

      If you want to quit watching, go right ahead.... no one is stopping you.

      Except, that Greek mythology was woven into the fabric of OUaT since day 1. Prince Charming battled a siren in S1, while Snow White killed Medusa in S3. We were even intoduced to Poseidon the Lord of the Seas, last season. OUaT is about modernizing fairytales and legends, by giving these classic charaters depth and complex realationships. It does not get more classic and complex, than Greek mythology.

      Stop assuming that we are only going to see the Underworld. That is probably just the bridge between the two arcs. The overall theme of S5 seems to be, the unpayed price of magic. Similar, to how S4  had Operation Mongoose.

      The only dead character that was confirmed, for an episode was Cora. She has made an appearance in every season, thus far. So it should not come as a surprised, that she would reappear in the 100th episode. 

      Thank you for this. I don't understand why a lot of people are freaking out over this, when it is one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show. It appeared even earlier than Charming and the Siren, with King Midas in 106. If people didn't see Greek Myths coming from a mile away, I don't know what to tell them.
      People "freaking out over it" and it being "one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show" are not mutually exclusive. 

      Of course we saw it coming from a mile away, we're not stupid. We just feel that it's very shoehorned into the show, that it doesn't fit, that these things don't mix, that the stories ONCE adverts itself to have are entirely different from a freaking Mythology, etc. And a lot of us have felt this way from the beginning.

      For me, King Midas and his storyline was the only storyline/character that didn't feel absolutely shoehorned in. It fits in with traditional "classic stories," like the rest of what's on the show. But everything else has felt terribly shoehorned in to me -- like it doesn't fit. A show about fairy tales and other classic stories, if you ask me, definitely does not need Gods and Demi-Gods and the like on it, and considering that that's like 90% of Greek Mythology, it simply doesn't fit. That's just my opinion.

      Now, as far as having seen them "coming a mile away," as you said, again, me personally, of course I always had the thought in the back of my mind that this story was, indeed, yes, very possibly something that could come down the line. That doesn't stop me, however, from hoping that they don't do it, simply because it doesn't feel right to me.

      I've kept up with the show thus far because I've largely/overall enjoyed it, and because the Greek Myths haven't been literally everywhere and all up in my face like they would be with a Greek Myths arc. Now that that's coming (or seems to be), however, for the first time, I'm seriously beginning to consider stopping keeping up with the show.

      Gods and Demigods would just add way, way too much power to the show in a very condensed set of characters. In other words, there's individuals coming on with too much individual power. This seriously unbalances everything, and kind of cheapens every arc that's come so far that has had to do with magic, because now there's going to be characters that could just undo everything or whatever with the lift of a finger. 

      That's just one of many reasons I don't like the idea. 

      But anyways, I think I'm rambling. I hope I've gotten my point across.

      OH. One other thing -- And I've said all this without adding on what everyone else has said; Like how every time we get new characters, we've been desensitized to not invest in them, because once their story is over, they most likely won't show up again; Or how 4B was an absolute disaster and this seems to be following that path; Or how 4A will turn out to be arguably the only thing that felt more shoehorned into the show than this, and how badly that turned out; Or any comment about Disney and how the show is venturing too far into Disneyland (no pun intended) by adapting too many of the classic Disney stories as they are into the show, when originally the entire point of the show was to retell these classic stories in a different, fun, creative, and all-inclusive manner. 

      So. Tl;dr It's not that we didn't see it coming, but yes we are freaking out anyways. The two aren't mutually exclusive. This arc has "TERRIBLE IDEA" written all over it in our opinion, and those're the reasons why. 

      Feel like I'm forgetting something now but oh well, if it comes back to me I'll add it.

      Finale someone understand something. Once Upon a Time is about FAIRYTALES, like SNOW WHITE, HANSEL AND GRETEL, JACK AND THE BEANSTALK, SLEEPING BEAUTY or LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD. NOT ABOUT MYTHS, like HERCULES, THE MINOTAUR or THE GOLDEN FLEECE. If you want Hades, you have to watching Once Upon a Myth. Everything wich isn't a fairytale or a classic story, MUST NOT APPEAIR. THEY ALREADY SHOW US MANY AWFUL THINGS (like the Frozen arc, the worst idea of the century) BUT NOTHING IS MORE HORRIBLE THAN MYTHS. Do you imagine? Snow White who has a tea in company of Helen of Troy or Aphrodite?!?! Maybe with Percy Jackson!! Are you kidding me?! And, in the past there were only little references of mythology: King Midas is transported in a medieval world, and Pandora's Box isn't the same box of the mythology. Poseidon is based more on Triton, his name is only a silly little reference. The Siren is the Lady of the Lake, fools!  

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    • Arctucrus wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      CadoDoan wrote:

      I don't think 4B was a mess. I do know that this underworld thing is going to be a crap. I mean this once upon a time. Fairytales and legends. Not greek gods and their complex relationships. Now I am even considering to quit the show. The show is getting more and more ridicilous. God knows what nonsense will present in Season 6

      If you want to quit watching, go right ahead.... no one is stopping you.

      Except, that Greek mythology was woven into the fabric of OUaT since day 1. Prince Charming battled a siren in S1, while Snow White killed Medusa in S3. We were even intoduced to Poseidon the Lord of the Seas, last season. OUaT is about modernizing fairytales and legends, by giving these classic charaters depth and complex realationships. It does not get more classic and complex, than Greek mythology.

      Stop assuming that we are only going to see the Underworld. That is probably just the bridge between the two arcs. The overall theme of S5 seems to be, the unpayed price of magic. Similar, to how S4  had Operation Mongoose.

      The only dead character that was confirmed, for an episode was Cora. She has made an appearance in every season, thus far. So it should not come as a surprised, that she would reappear in the 100th episode. 

      Thank you for this. I don't understand why a lot of people are freaking out over this, when it is one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show. It appeared even earlier than Charming and the Siren, with King Midas in 106. If people didn't see Greek Myths coming from a mile away, I don't know what to tell them.
      People "freaking out over it" and it being "one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show" are not mutually exclusive. 

      Of course we saw it coming from a mile away, we're not stupid. We just feel that it's very shoehorned into the show, that it doesn't fit, that these things don't mix, that the stories ONCE adverts itself to have are entirely different from a freaking Mythology, etc. And a lot of us have felt this way from the beginning.

      For me, King Midas and his storyline was the only storyline/character that didn't feel absolutely shoehorned in. It fits in with traditional "classic stories," like the rest of what's on the show. But everything else has felt terribly shoehorned in to me -- like it doesn't fit. A show about fairy tales and other classic stories, if you ask me, definitely does not need Gods and Demi-Gods and the like on it, and considering that that's like 90% of Greek Mythology, it simply doesn't fit. That's just my opinion.

      Now, as far as having seen them "coming a mile away," as you said, again, me personally, of course I always had the thought in the back of my mind that this story was, indeed, yes, very possibly something that could come down the line. That doesn't stop me, however, from hoping that they don't do it, simply because it doesn't feel right to me.

      I've kept up with the show thus far because I've largely/overall enjoyed it, and because the Greek Myths haven't been literally everywhere and all up in my face like they would be with a Greek Myths arc. Now that that's coming (or seems to be), however, for the first time, I'm seriously beginning to consider stopping keeping up with the show.

      Gods and Demigods would just add way, way too much power to the show in a very condensed set of characters. In other words, there's individuals coming on with too much individual power. This seriously unbalances everything, and kind of cheapens every arc that's come so far that has had to do with magic, because now there's going to be characters that could just undo everything or whatever with the lift of a finger. 

      That's just one of many reasons I don't like the idea. 

      But anyways, I think I'm rambling. I hope I've gotten my point across.

      OH. One other thing -- And I've said all this without adding on what everyone else has said; Like how every time we get new characters, we've been desensitized to not invest in them, because once their story is over, they most likely won't show up again; Or how 4B was an absolute disaster and this seems to be following that path; Or how 4A will turn out to be arguably the only thing that felt more shoehorned into the show than this, and how badly that turned out; Or any comment about Disney and how the show is venturing too far into Disneyland (no pun intended) by adapting too many of the classic Disney stories as they are into the show, when originally the entire point of the show was to retell these classic stories in a different, fun, creative, and all-inclusive manner. 

      So. Tl;dr It's not that we didn't see it coming, but yes we are freaking out anyways. The two aren't mutually exclusive. This arc has "TERRIBLE IDEA" written all over it in our opinion, and those're the reasons why. 

      Feel like I'm forgetting something now but oh well, if it comes back to me I'll add it.

      So I see two major points of potential problems, and I have rebuttals to both of them (and if you've followed me long enough on here, you should have also seen that coming from a mile away XD).

      Point 1: "Greek Mythology doesn't fit because it adds overpowered characters to the show." First off, I think everyone needs to remember Greek gods and goddesses are not at the same power level as something like the Christian God, and are more along the lines of powerful magic users. For that reason, I don't think any of them will be more powerful than Merlin, Blue, and The Dark One. They may be immortal or near immortal, but even that is not excusive to them as Merlin, Blue, The Dark One, and anyone who goes to Neverland seem not to age. This goes to another point, the Greek gods and goddesses may be portrayed as even weaker than they were in the Greek Myths. So far we saw Posiden, and think about it, he was using his daughter's singing to kill sailors and he could not defeat a mortal pirate. Yet he still called himself a deity, so we should assume he is the Greek god Posiden. Will his fellow Greek gods be more powerful then him, I doubt it, as Posiden is usually one of the more powerful gods. Finally, just in case the power level of certain gods does go higher, I'd like to point out as a fantasy story goes on, the enimies tend to get more god-like and powerful, sometimes with the final enemy being some sort of deity, so it would not be wrong for more powerful enimies to be introduced the further we go on the show.

      Point 2: "I don't like how they keep introducing new characters, only to never be seen after the arc is over." This is a more general problem with the show, as people would feel this way weather we were getting a Greek Myth arc, a Jungle Book arc, an Agrabah arc, or a LWC arc, but it is a valid criticism. However, I feel that it may not be as true as we think, and that in fact only the Frozen characters will not appear again. I think part of the problem is that many of the characters have not had time to reappear in a flashback (or assuming the Underworld arc is indeed coming up, as a spirit), even though they are intended to be. I think Pan, Ingrid, and Cruella are all intended to appear again at some point even though they are dead. I also think characters like Rupunzel, Ursula, and Glinda are intended to appear again. Finally, I think Mal (a character who I would like to point out was actually reappearing in 4B) is intended to appear again. Part of the problem with the reaccuring guest stars is that they need to appear where it would actually make sense in the plot, but the actors are often busy with other projects. Adam and Eddy are very smart, that they keep very good relations with the actors, and are therefore able to get them to come back. Part of this is they know to respect the actors other commitments though, which means that they don't always get the actors back where they maybe would have liked them. At any rate, I think we are being unfair in saying we see characters for on arc, and then never again, when I think we just haven't seen them reappear yet.

      So there are my thoughts, feel free to weigh in on them.

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    • Simmino44 wrote:
      Arctucrus wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      CadoDoan wrote:

      I don't think 4B was a mess. I do know that this underworld thing is going to be a crap. I mean this once upon a time. Fairytales and legends. Not greek gods and their complex relationships. Now I am even considering to quit the show. The show is getting more and more ridicilous. God knows what nonsense will present in Season 6

      If you want to quit watching, go right ahead.... no one is stopping you.

      Except, that Greek mythology was woven into the fabric of OUaT since day 1. Prince Charming battled a siren in S1, while Snow White killed Medusa in S3. We were even intoduced to Poseidon the Lord of the Seas, last season. OUaT is about modernizing fairytales and legends, by giving these classic charaters depth and complex realationships. It does not get more classic and complex, than Greek mythology.

      Stop assuming that we are only going to see the Underworld. That is probably just the bridge between the two arcs. The overall theme of S5 seems to be, the unpayed price of magic. Similar, to how S4  had Operation Mongoose.

      The only dead character that was confirmed, for an episode was Cora. She has made an appearance in every season, thus far. So it should not come as a surprised, that she would reappear in the 100th episode. 

      Thank you for this. I don't understand why a lot of people are freaking out over this, when it is one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show. It appeared even earlier than Charming and the Siren, with King Midas in 106. If people didn't see Greek Myths coming from a mile away, I don't know what to tell them.
      People "freaking out over it" and it being "one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show" are not mutually exclusive. 

      Of course we saw it coming from a mile away, we're not stupid. We just feel that it's very shoehorned into the show, that it doesn't fit, that these things don't mix, that the stories ONCE adverts itself to have are entirely different from a freaking Mythology, etc. And a lot of us have felt this way from the beginning.

      For me, King Midas and his storyline was the only storyline/character that didn't feel absolutely shoehorned in. It fits in with traditional "classic stories," like the rest of what's on the show. But everything else has felt terribly shoehorned in to me -- like it doesn't fit. A show about fairy tales and other classic stories, if you ask me, definitely does not need Gods and Demi-Gods and the like on it, and considering that that's like 90% of Greek Mythology, it simply doesn't fit. That's just my opinion.

      Now, as far as having seen them "coming a mile away," as you said, again, me personally, of course I always had the thought in the back of my mind that this story was, indeed, yes, very possibly something that could come down the line. That doesn't stop me, however, from hoping that they don't do it, simply because it doesn't feel right to me.

      I've kept up with the show thus far because I've largely/overall enjoyed it, and because the Greek Myths haven't been literally everywhere and all up in my face like they would be with a Greek Myths arc. Now that that's coming (or seems to be), however, for the first time, I'm seriously beginning to consider stopping keeping up with the show.

      Gods and Demigods would just add way, way too much power to the show in a very condensed set of characters. In other words, there's individuals coming on with too much individual power. This seriously unbalances everything, and kind of cheapens every arc that's come so far that has had to do with magic, because now there's going to be characters that could just undo everything or whatever with the lift of a finger. 

      That's just one of many reasons I don't like the idea. 

      But anyways, I think I'm rambling. I hope I've gotten my point across.

      OH. One other thing -- And I've said all this without adding on what everyone else has said; Like how every time we get new characters, we've been desensitized to not invest in them, because once their story is over, they most likely won't show up again; Or how 4B was an absolute disaster and this seems to be following that path; Or how 4A will turn out to be arguably the only thing that felt more shoehorned into the show than this, and how badly that turned out; Or any comment about Disney and how the show is venturing too far into Disneyland (no pun intended) by adapting too many of the classic Disney stories as they are into the show, when originally the entire point of the show was to retell these classic stories in a different, fun, creative, and all-inclusive manner. 

      So. Tl;dr It's not that we didn't see it coming, but yes we are freaking out anyways. The two aren't mutually exclusive. This arc has "TERRIBLE IDEA" written all over it in our opinion, and those're the reasons why. 

      Feel like I'm forgetting something now but oh well, if it comes back to me I'll add it.

      Finale someone understand something. Once Upon a Time is about FAIRYTALES, like SNOW WHITE, HANSEL AND GRETEL, JACK AND THE BEANSTALK, SLEEPING BEAUTY or LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD. NOT ABOUT MYTHS, like HERCULES, THE MINOTAUR or THE GOLDEN FLEECE. If you want Hades, you have to watching Once Upon a Myth. Everything wich isn't a fairytale or a classic story, MUST NOT APPEAIR. THEY ALREADY SHOW US MANY AWFUL THINGS (like the Frozen arc, the worst idea of the century) BUT NOTHING IS MORE HORRIBLE THAN MYTHS. Do you imagine? Snow White who has a tea in company of Helen of Troy or Aphrodite?!?! Maybe with Percy Jackson!! Are you kidding me?! And, in the past there were only little references of mythology: King Midas is transported in a medieval world, and Pandora's Box isn't the same box of the mythology. Poseidon is based more on Triton, his name is only a silly little reference. The Siren is the Lady of the Lake, fools!  

      You can downplay the numerous references to Greek Myths all you want, but they are still there. Furthermore, there are many stories on this show that are not fairy tales (Frankenstein anyone?), and besides is there really any difference between the Greek Myths and a fairy tale? Like if someone told you they were going to read you a fairy tale, and read you Jason and the Golden Fleece (and you didn't know about Greek Mythology), would you really know it was a Greek myth, and not a fairy tale? I'd venture to say that you wouldn't. You know why, because Greek Myths are basically antient fairy tales.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Simmino44 wrote:
      Arctucrus wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      CadoDoan wrote:

      I don't think 4B was a mess. I do know that this underworld thing is going to be a crap. I mean this once upon a time. Fairytales and legends. Not greek gods and their complex relationships. Now I am even considering to quit the show. The show is getting more and more ridicilous. God knows what nonsense will present in Season 6

      If you want to quit watching, go right ahead.... no one is stopping you.

      Except, that Greek mythology was woven into the fabric of OUaT since day 1. Prince Charming battled a siren in S1, while Snow White killed Medusa in S3. We were even intoduced to Poseidon the Lord of the Seas, last season. OUaT is about modernizing fairytales and legends, by giving these classic charaters depth and complex realationships. It does not get more classic and complex, than Greek mythology.

      Stop assuming that we are only going to see the Underworld. That is probably just the bridge between the two arcs. The overall theme of S5 seems to be, the unpayed price of magic. Similar, to how S4  had Operation Mongoose.

      The only dead character that was confirmed, for an episode was Cora. She has made an appearance in every season, thus far. So it should not come as a surprised, that she would reappear in the 100th episode. 

      Thank you for this. I don't understand why a lot of people are freaking out over this, when it is one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show. It appeared even earlier than Charming and the Siren, with King Midas in 106. If people didn't see Greek Myths coming from a mile away, I don't know what to tell them.
      People "freaking out over it" and it being "one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show" are not mutually exclusive. 

      Of course we saw it coming from a mile away, we're not stupid. We just feel that it's very shoehorned into the show, that it doesn't fit, that these things don't mix, that the stories ONCE adverts itself to have are entirely different from a freaking Mythology, etc. And a lot of us have felt this way from the beginning.

      For me, King Midas and his storyline was the only storyline/character that didn't feel absolutely shoehorned in. It fits in with traditional "classic stories," like the rest of what's on the show. But everything else has felt terribly shoehorned in to me -- like it doesn't fit. A show about fairy tales and other classic stories, if you ask me, definitely does not need Gods and Demi-Gods and the like on it, and considering that that's like 90% of Greek Mythology, it simply doesn't fit. That's just my opinion.

      Now, as far as having seen them "coming a mile away," as you said, again, me personally, of course I always had the thought in the back of my mind that this story was, indeed, yes, very possibly something that could come down the line. That doesn't stop me, however, from hoping that they don't do it, simply because it doesn't feel right to me.

      I've kept up with the show thus far because I've largely/overall enjoyed it, and because the Greek Myths haven't been literally everywhere and all up in my face like they would be with a Greek Myths arc. Now that that's coming (or seems to be), however, for the first time, I'm seriously beginning to consider stopping keeping up with the show.

      Gods and Demigods would just add way, way too much power to the show in a very condensed set of characters. In other words, there's individuals coming on with too much individual power. This seriously unbalances everything, and kind of cheapens every arc that's come so far that has had to do with magic, because now there's going to be characters that could just undo everything or whatever with the lift of a finger. 

      That's just one of many reasons I don't like the idea. 

      But anyways, I think I'm rambling. I hope I've gotten my point across.

      OH. One other thing -- And I've said all this without adding on what everyone else has said; Like how every time we get new characters, we've been desensitized to not invest in them, because once their story is over, they most likely won't show up again; Or how 4B was an absolute disaster and this seems to be following that path; Or how 4A will turn out to be arguably the only thing that felt more shoehorned into the show than this, and how badly that turned out; Or any comment about Disney and how the show is venturing too far into Disneyland (no pun intended) by adapting too many of the classic Disney stories as they are into the show, when originally the entire point of the show was to retell these classic stories in a different, fun, creative, and all-inclusive manner. 

      So. Tl;dr It's not that we didn't see it coming, but yes we are freaking out anyways. The two aren't mutually exclusive. This arc has "TERRIBLE IDEA" written all over it in our opinion, and those're the reasons why. 

      Feel like I'm forgetting something now but oh well, if it comes back to me I'll add it.

      Finale someone understand something. Once Upon a Time is about FAIRYTALES, like SNOW WHITE, HANSEL AND GRETEL, JACK AND THE BEANSTALK, SLEEPING BEAUTY or LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD. NOT ABOUT MYTHS, like HERCULES, THE MINOTAUR or THE GOLDEN FLEECE. If you want Hades, you have to watching Once Upon a Myth. Everything wich isn't a fairytale or a classic story, MUST NOT APPEAIR. THEY ALREADY SHOW US MANY AWFUL THINGS (like the Frozen arc, the worst idea of the century) BUT NOTHING IS MORE HORRIBLE THAN MYTHS. Do you imagine? Snow White who has a tea in company of Helen of Troy or Aphrodite?!?! Maybe with Percy Jackson!! Are you kidding me?! And, in the past there were only little references of mythology: King Midas is transported in a medieval world, and Pandora's Box isn't the same box of the mythology. Poseidon is based more on Triton, his name is only a silly little reference. The Siren is the Lady of the Lake, fools!  
      You can downplay the numerous references to Greek Myths all you want, but they are still there. Furthermore, there are many stories on this show that are not fairy tales (Frankenstein anyone?), and besides is there really any difference between the Greek Myths and a fairy tale? Like if someone told you they were going to read you a fairy tale, and read you Jason and the Golden Fleece (and you didn't know about Greek Mythology), would you really know it was a Greek myth, and not a fairy tale? I'd venture to say that you wouldn't. You know why, because Greek Myths are basically antient fairy tales.

      As a child I was obsessed by myths, my dear, so I know a lots of things about Greek Mythology. And you can't tell me that fairytales is another word for saying myths. A myth and a fairytale are very different things, with a different function and a different structure. 

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    • Simmino44 wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Simmino44 wrote:
      Arctucrus wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      CadoDoan wrote:

      I don't think 4B was a mess. I do know that this underworld thing is going to be a crap. I mean this once upon a time. Fairytales and legends. Not greek gods and their complex relationships. Now I am even considering to quit the show. The show is getting more and more ridicilous. God knows what nonsense will present in Season 6

      If you want to quit watching, go right ahead.... no one is stopping you.

      Except, that Greek mythology was woven into the fabric of OUaT since day 1. Prince Charming battled a siren in S1, while Snow White killed Medusa in S3. We were even intoduced to Poseidon the Lord of the Seas, last season. OUaT is about modernizing fairytales and legends, by giving these classic charaters depth and complex realationships. It does not get more classic and complex, than Greek mythology.

      Stop assuming that we are only going to see the Underworld. That is probably just the bridge between the two arcs. The overall theme of S5 seems to be, the unpayed price of magic. Similar, to how S4  had Operation Mongoose.

      The only dead character that was confirmed, for an episode was Cora. She has made an appearance in every season, thus far. So it should not come as a surprised, that she would reappear in the 100th episode. 

      Thank you for this. I don't understand why a lot of people are freaking out over this, when it is one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show. It appeared even earlier than Charming and the Siren, with King Midas in 106. If people didn't see Greek Myths coming from a mile away, I don't know what to tell them.
      People "freaking out over it" and it being "one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show" are not mutually exclusive. 

      Of course we saw it coming from a mile away, we're not stupid. We just feel that it's very shoehorned into the show, that it doesn't fit, that these things don't mix, that the stories ONCE adverts itself to have are entirely different from a freaking Mythology, etc. And a lot of us have felt this way from the beginning.

      For me, King Midas and his storyline was the only storyline/character that didn't feel absolutely shoehorned in. It fits in with traditional "classic stories," like the rest of what's on the show. But everything else has felt terribly shoehorned in to me -- like it doesn't fit. A show about fairy tales and other classic stories, if you ask me, definitely does not need Gods and Demi-Gods and the like on it, and considering that that's like 90% of Greek Mythology, it simply doesn't fit. That's just my opinion.

      Now, as far as having seen them "coming a mile away," as you said, again, me personally, of course I always had the thought in the back of my mind that this story was, indeed, yes, very possibly something that could come down the line. That doesn't stop me, however, from hoping that they don't do it, simply because it doesn't feel right to me.

      I've kept up with the show thus far because I've largely/overall enjoyed it, and because the Greek Myths haven't been literally everywhere and all up in my face like they would be with a Greek Myths arc. Now that that's coming (or seems to be), however, for the first time, I'm seriously beginning to consider stopping keeping up with the show.

      Gods and Demigods would just add way, way too much power to the show in a very condensed set of characters. In other words, there's individuals coming on with too much individual power. This seriously unbalances everything, and kind of cheapens every arc that's come so far that has had to do with magic, because now there's going to be characters that could just undo everything or whatever with the lift of a finger. 

      That's just one of many reasons I don't like the idea. 

      But anyways, I think I'm rambling. I hope I've gotten my point across.

      OH. One other thing -- And I've said all this without adding on what everyone else has said; Like how every time we get new characters, we've been desensitized to not invest in them, because once their story is over, they most likely won't show up again; Or how 4B was an absolute disaster and this seems to be following that path; Or how 4A will turn out to be arguably the only thing that felt more shoehorned into the show than this, and how badly that turned out; Or any comment about Disney and how the show is venturing too far into Disneyland (no pun intended) by adapting too many of the classic Disney stories as they are into the show, when originally the entire point of the show was to retell these classic stories in a different, fun, creative, and all-inclusive manner. 

      So. Tl;dr It's not that we didn't see it coming, but yes we are freaking out anyways. The two aren't mutually exclusive. This arc has "TERRIBLE IDEA" written all over it in our opinion, and those're the reasons why. 

      Feel like I'm forgetting something now but oh well, if it comes back to me I'll add it.

      Finale someone understand something. Once Upon a Time is about FAIRYTALES, like SNOW WHITE, HANSEL AND GRETEL, JACK AND THE BEANSTALK, SLEEPING BEAUTY or LITTLE RED RIDING HOOD. NOT ABOUT MYTHS, like HERCULES, THE MINOTAUR or THE GOLDEN FLEECE. If you want Hades, you have to watching Once Upon a Myth. Everything wich isn't a fairytale or a classic story, MUST NOT APPEAIR. THEY ALREADY SHOW US MANY AWFUL THINGS (like the Frozen arc, the worst idea of the century) BUT NOTHING IS MORE HORRIBLE THAN MYTHS. Do you imagine? Snow White who has a tea in company of Helen of Troy or Aphrodite?!?! Maybe with Percy Jackson!! Are you kidding me?! And, in the past there were only little references of mythology: King Midas is transported in a medieval world, and Pandora's Box isn't the same box of the mythology. Poseidon is based more on Triton, his name is only a silly little reference. The Siren is the Lady of the Lake, fools!  
      You can downplay the numerous references to Greek Myths all you want, but they are still there. Furthermore, there are many stories on this show that are not fairy tales (Frankenstein anyone?), and besides is there really any difference between the Greek Myths and a fairy tale? Like if someone told you they were going to read you a fairy tale, and read you Jason and the Golden Fleece (and you didn't know about Greek Mythology), would you really know it was a Greek myth, and not a fairy tale? I'd venture to say that you wouldn't. You know why, because Greek Myths are basically antient fairy tales.
      As a child I was obsessed by myths, my dear, so I know a lots of things about Greek Mythology. And you can't tell me that fairytales is another word for saying myths. A myth and a fairytale are very different things, with a different function and a different structure. 

      I know alot about Greek Mythology as well. And yes, I understand it was originally a religion, whereas fairy tales never were. I still see similarities between the two though. But I'm interested, what do you see as the different function and different structure?

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    • If you want a thread to vent your frustrations, you can find one. This isn't that thread.

      Once Upon A Time is a show that twist fairytales, folklore, myths and legends (and classical literature and nursery rhymes). It is to take all things fantastical from our childhood to life (and Disney usually owns some of them).

      Once uses literary characters under those categories and can use what they please. I hate to break it to you, but:

      Wonderland isn't a fairy tale, but literature

      Frankenstein isn't a fairytale but literature

      Neverland stuff isn't a fairytale, but literature

      Arthurian legend isn't a fairytale, but legend and literature

      Beowulf is literature

      Bo Peep is a Nursery Rhyme

      Rip Van Winkle is American folklore

      One that Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is literature

      So, Once Upon a Time hasn't been onbly fairytales since episode 6 of season 1, which had Midas a mythological/ legendary character.

      Grek Mythology is myth, legend, and literature.

      So, here's reality and feel free to continue this discussion elsewhere and not on this thread.

      (MOD) This is about characters, not genre that you are confused about being in Once.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      If you want a thread to vent your frustrations, you can find one. This isn't that thread.

      Once Upon A Time is a show that twist fairytales, folklore, myths and legends (and classical literature and nursery rhymes). It is to take all things fantastical from our childhood to life (and Disney usually owns some of them).

      Once uses literary characters under those categories and can use what they please. I hate to break it to you, but:

      Wonderland isn't a fairy tale, but literature

      Frankenstein isn't a fairytale but literature

      Neverland stuff isn't a fairytale, but literature

      Arthurian legend isn't a fairytale, but legend and literature

      Beowulf is literature

      Bo Peep is a Nursery Rhyme

      Rip Van Winkle is American folklore

      One that Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is literature

      So, Once Upon a Time hasn't been onbly fairytales since episode 6 of season 1, which had Midas a mythological/ legendary character.

      Grek Mythology is myth, legend, and literature.

      So, here's reality and feel free to continue this discussion elsewhere and not on this thread.

      (MOD) This is about characters, not genre that you are confused about being in Once.

      It hasn't even been 100% fairytales since Pilot. Pinocchio, Jiminy Cricket, Gepetto and The Blue Fairy, anyone? Pinocchio is a novel, not a fairytale.

      Mulan is a ballad, Robin Hood is also a ballad, both are historical figures, as is Blackbeard and Sir Morgan (both pirates).

      All around this show we've seen things that are hardly considered fairytales. So people need to calm down.

      And I'll be 100% happy because Hercules was one of my favorite movies growing up. Along with Mulan, The Little Mermaid and Tarzan. And this gives me hope for Tarzan.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      If you want a thread to vent your frustrations, you can find one. This isn't that thread.

      Once Upon A Time is a show that twist fairytales, folklore, myths and legends (and classical literature and nursery rhymes). It is to take all things fantastical from our childhood to life (and Disney usually owns some of them).

      Once uses literary characters under those categories and can use what they please. I hate to break it to you, but:

      Wonderland isn't a fairy tale, but literature

      Frankenstein isn't a fairytale but literature

      Neverland stuff isn't a fairytale, but literature

      Arthurian legend isn't a fairytale, but legend and literature

      Beowulf is literature

      Bo Peep is a Nursery Rhyme

      Rip Van Winkle is American folklore

      One that Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is literature

      So, Once Upon a Time hasn't been onbly fairytales since episode 6 of season 1, which had Midas a mythological/ legendary character.

      Grek Mythology is myth, legend, and literature.

      So, here's reality and feel free to continue this discussion elsewhere and not on this thread.

      (MOD) This is about characters, not genre that you are confused about being in Once.

      It hasn't even been 100% fairytales since Pilot. Pinocchio, Jiminy Cricket, Gepetto and The Blue Fairy, anyone? Pinocchio is a novel, not a fairytale.

      Mulan is a ballad, Robin Hood is also a ballad, both are historical figures, as is Blackbeard and Sir Morgan (both pirates).

      All around this show we've seen things that are hardly considered fairytales. So people need to calm down.

      And I'll be 100% happy because Hercules was one of my favorite movies growing up. Along with Mulan, The Little Mermaid and Tarzan. And this gives me hope for Tarzan.

      And also Cruella and Pongo from The Hundred and One Dalmatians. It's a novel and not a fairytale.

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    • PokeFanClaire wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      If you want a thread to vent your frustrations, you can find one. This isn't that thread.

      Once Upon A Time is a show that twist fairytales, folklore, myths and legends (and classical literature and nursery rhymes). It is to take all things fantastical from our childhood to life (and Disney usually owns some of them).

      Once uses literary characters under those categories and can use what they please. I hate to break it to you, but:

      Wonderland isn't a fairy tale, but literature

      Frankenstein isn't a fairytale but literature

      Neverland stuff isn't a fairytale, but literature

      Arthurian legend isn't a fairytale, but legend and literature

      Beowulf is literature

      Bo Peep is a Nursery Rhyme

      Rip Van Winkle is American folklore

      One that Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is literature

      So, Once Upon a Time hasn't been onbly fairytales since episode 6 of season 1, which had Midas a mythological/ legendary character.

      Grek Mythology is myth, legend, and literature.

      So, here's reality and feel free to continue this discussion elsewhere and not on this thread.

      (MOD) This is about characters, not genre that you are confused about being in Once.

      It hasn't even been 100% fairytales since Pilot. Pinocchio, Jiminy Cricket, Gepetto and The Blue Fairy, anyone? Pinocchio is a novel, not a fairytale.

      Mulan is a ballad, Robin Hood is also a ballad, both are historical figures, as is Blackbeard and Sir Morgan (both pirates).

      All around this show we've seen things that are hardly considered fairytales. So people need to calm down.

      And I'll be 100% happy because Hercules was one of my favorite movies growing up. Along with Mulan, The Little Mermaid and Tarzan. And this gives me hope for Tarzan.

      And also Cruella and Pongo from The Hundred and One Dalmatians. It's a novel and not a fairytale.

      And (not counting Brave or Frozen) the most "recent" characters they've introduced. And Pongo was in the Pilot as well.

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    • Farerb wrote:

      It wasfine when it was bits here and there, but that whole underworld arc with DG, Hercules, Meg and dead people returning just has "Bad Idea" written all over it. 

      Stop assuming that OUaT is resurrecting dead people. Souls of the Departed is a Bruce Springsteen song, and the episode is named after it. This show features flashbacks, and Cora has always appeared in every season.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Farerb wrote:

      It wasfine when it was bits here and there, but that whole underworld arc with DG, Hercules, Meg and dead people returning just has "Bad Idea" written all over it. 

      Stop assuming that OUaT is resurrecting dead people. Souls of the Departed is a Bruce Springsteen song, and the episode is named after it. This show features flashbacks, and Cora has always appeared in every season.

      Actually, it seems like all the past Dark Ones are swarming Storybrooke, so... He's not wrong. He's just wrong about who.

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    • (MOD)Stop going off topic, new 5b characters, not dead people and ressurection. Any further posts off topic will be deleted.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Farerb wrote:

      It wasfine when it was bits here and there, but that whole underworld arc with DG, Hercules, Meg and dead people returning just has "Bad Idea" written all over it. 

      Stop assuming that OUaT is resurrecting dead people. Souls of the Departed is a Bruce Springsteen song, and the episode is named after it. This show features flashbacks, and Cora has always appeared in every season.
      Actually, it seems like all the past Dark Ones are swarming Storybrooke, so... He's not wrong. He's just wrong about who.

      I am actually trying to figure out, how incorporating Hercules and Megara is a bad idea. If OUaT wants to have a Greek mythology arc, those characters make the most sense. Every TV show introduces recurring characters, who leave once their arc is over. The only thing that makes OUaT different, is that all the characters are famous in their own right. 

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    • Do you suppose those dark ones we saw can be a tease for some of the new 5B characters? I mean it is like the queens of darkness are a tease for their arrival for 4B.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Farerb wrote:

      It wasfine when it was bits here and there, but that whole underworld arc with DG, Hercules, Meg and dead people returning just has "Bad Idea" written all over it. 

      Stop assuming that OUaT is resurrecting dead people. Souls of the Departed is a Bruce Springsteen song, and the episode is named after it. This show features flashbacks, and Cora has always appeared in every season.
      Actually, it seems like all the past Dark Ones are swarming Storybrooke, so... He's not wrong. He's just wrong about who.
      I am actually trying to figure out, how incorporating Hercules and Megara is a bad idea. If OUaT wants to have a Greek mythology arc, those characters make the most sense. Every TV show introduces recurring characters, who leave once their arc is over. The only thing that makes OUaT different, is that all the characters are famous in their own right. 

      Sure, Hercules and Megara makes the most sense from all the numerous stories from Greek Myth since they had an American DISNEY MOVIE that shitted about Greek Myth and had nothing to do with it and was critisized about it - here is the bad idea.

      I will agree about recurring cast members when OUAT treats them as such like in seasons 1-3.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Farerb wrote:

      It wasfine when it was bits here and there, but that whole underworld arc with DG, Hercules, Meg and dead people returning just has "Bad Idea" written all over it. 

      Stop assuming that OUaT is resurrecting dead people. Souls of the Departed is a Bruce Springsteen song, and the episode is named after it. This show features flashbacks, and Cora has always appeared in every season.
      Actually, it seems like all the past Dark Ones are swarming Storybrooke, so... He's not wrong. He's just wrong about who.
      I am actually trying to figure out, how incorporating Hercules and Megara is a bad idea. If OUaT wants to have a Greek mythology arc, those characters make the most sense. Every TV show introduces recurring characters, who leave once their arc is over. The only thing that makes OUaT different, is that all the characters are famous in their own right. 

      It's not a bad idea at all if they want to do a Greek Mythology arc. Most people will be familiar with them because of the Disney movie.

      The "bad idea" in most people's eyes is the Greek Mythology arc itself. Which I personally think is subjective, but whatever. I'm incredibly hyped for this.

      And yes, Once is different because all of the characters are iconic and famous, so people get really frustrated if their favorites don't get enough screentime or come back every now and then.

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    • Speaking of New Characters, I'm thinking that Nimue is the villain of the arc. (Or she might just be the vessel of Darkness, since she's the first One.)

      That'll be nice, but I feel that these new characters are like a pitstop on the road to Eradicating the Darkness. Herc and Meg, and even the DG is simply involved because they somehow got marked for death or something. So, it'll feel like a legit pit stop and it'll be obvious why the characters are gone after the arc because it was like trvelling through a town for a short time.

      It does make the whole dropping prior arc characters down a plot hole more smooth and not as obvious.

      (Oh, and Once writers and producers probably don't mind poeple's frustatrations because the vocal minority is usually the loudest.)

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Speaking of New Characters, I'm thinking that Nimue is the villain of the arc. (Or she might just be the vessel of Darkness, since she's the first One.)

      That would make Nimue the Big Bad of the entire season, not just an arc.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      Speaking of New Characters, I'm thinking that Nimue is the villain of the arc. (Or she might just be the vessel of Darkness, since she's the first One.)
      That would make Nimue the Big Bad of the entire season, not just an arc.

      Who says the arc I am talking about isn't an entire season? THe Author arc was entire season. I think the Nimue/Darkness arc will be the entire season and maybe more.

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    • As for death god. Hades isn't the god of death. The god of death is really Thanatos that we might see unless A&E merge both Hades & Thanatos into one character.

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    • Dark Fantasy1990 wrote:
      As for death god. Hades isn't the god of death. The god of death is really Thanatos that we might see unless A&E merge both Hades & Thanatos into one character.

      Well, he and most others are called death gods, but are gods of the realm of the dead.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:
      Speaking of New Characters, I'm thinking that Nimue is the villain of the arc. (Or she might just be the vessel of Darkness, since she's the first One.)
      That would make Nimue the Big Bad of the entire season, not just an arc.
      Who says the arc I am talking about isn't an entire season? THe Author arc was entire season. I think the Nimue/Darkness arc will be the entire season and maybe more.

      If she is the villain solely due to being the first Dark One (which is unconfirmed, but very likely), then that would mean she's still alive. After 1,000 years. I don't really buy it, honestly. The whole point of the Dark One is that you have to kill them in order to take their power. Emma was the first one to break this pattern, but I doubt that would somehow revive the First.

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    • We should get the casting of Hades this week, since they are shooting the episode. Can't wait, I'm sure I'll end up disappointed with an actor I've never seen, but I'm hyped to find out.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      We should get the casting of Hades this week, since they are shooting the episode. Can't wait, I'm sure I'll end up disappointed with an actor I've never seen, but I'm hyped to find out.

      It may take a bit longer to find out who was cast, sometimes they don't announce who was cast right away.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      We should get the casting of Hades this week, since they are shooting the episode. Can't wait, I'm sure I'll end up disappointed with an actor I've never seen, but I'm hyped to find out.
      It may take a bit longer to find out who was cast, sometimes they don't announce who was cast right away.

      This is true. But I'm excited.

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    • I'm excited too, but they better not make Hercules or Meg into villains like they did with Pan & Arthur

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    • TheKnightGhost wrote: I'm excited too, but they better not make Hercules or Meg into villains like they did with Pan & Arthur

      I don't think they will. After all I think it was said that they would only appear in one episode, just like they did with bo peep and what they are about to do with Hook's father.

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    • TheKnightGhost wrote:
      I'm excited too, but they better not make Hercules or Meg into villains like they did with Pan & Arthur

      Either one could be a villain or a simple antagonist. There's precedent for both.

      In the myths, Hercules is driven insane and slays his children with Megara (and in some versions, Meg herself as well). In the show, he could easily be insane like Zelena, Regina or Arthur.

      In the Disney movie, Megara works for Hades because she sold her soul to him. But then she repents and sides with Hercules out of love. The same could hold true in Once.

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    • I think we should all know by now, we can't trust anyone on this show.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      TheKnightGhost wrote:
      I'm excited too, but they better not make Hercules or Meg into villains like they did with Pan & Arthur
      Either one could be a villain or a simple antagonist. There's precedent for both.

      In the myths, Hercules is driven insane and slays his children with Megara (and in some versions, Meg herself as well). In the show, he could easily be insane like Zelena, Regina or Arthur.

      In the Disney movie, Megara works for Hades because she sold her soul to him. But then she repents and sides with Hercules out of love. The same could hold true in Once.

      I can see Meg being an anti-hero. But I don't think they'll make Hercules insane. Maybe confused due to something happening, but not crazy.

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    • TheKnightGhost wrote: I think we should all know by now, we can't trust anyone on this show.

      I'm really ok with this. I don't think Hercules looks evil though, just stubborn.

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    • Come to think of it, this wasn't the first time the media made Megara a bad guy, remember the 2005 miniseries? That version is a supporter of Hera and tried to kill Hercules, even marrying his cousin, Eurystheus.

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    • Xena ;)

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    • I think Gods/Goddess in Greek mythology should appear in this season too, such as Zeus, Hera, Aphrodite...etc (that would be awesome)

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    • Marionguyen113 wrote:
      I think Gods/Goddess in Greek mythology should appear in this season too, such as Zeus, Hera, Aphrodite...etc (that would be awesome)

      Agree! I'm sure they'll appear, we have already Poseidon and Ursula as gods so we'll have the others too! :P

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    • I love Greek mythology, it build up my childhood even it's sexual. I love Aphrodite, the goddess of love

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    • I think in the show, she will be a beautiful, seductive, fashion and lovely woman

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    • A Spy in the Mirror
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