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  • Now that Merida will appear in season five who would you like to see in the new flashback's. we have to assume that everything is possible for now, because we have no idea where, when and how Merida's backstory took place. I would like to see the QOD for one last time since IMO they were not given enogh attention at all in S4B, I had much higher expactations of them. And robert as the DO for one last time, to say goodbye. 

    What do all of you think???

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    • Since, I consider EMrida Spoilers, I'll move the thread there.

      Rumple's Dark One will still be present, likely until the end of the show since he has so much history to backfill.

      Make Maelficent the witch and then you can maybe even have a QoD cameo there, maybe Mal beign the crazy witch and Cruella and Ursula talking to her in like a backroom or something, lol.

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    • Is it possible that there won't be flashbacks regularly in every episode?

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      Is it possible that there won't be flashbacks regularly in every episode?


      Yes, it is....but Camelot will have a few for sure. Merida will too. Snow and Charming/ Snow vs Regina have one as well, every half season.

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    • I'd like to see more Maleficent flashbacks. As in actually Sleeping Beauty, not just the character thrown into whatever storyline fits the plot.

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    • Merida? I'd love to see her in Storybrooke. So many iconic characters only show up once in flashbacks, then disappear. *cough*RAPUNZEL*cough*LUMIERE*cough*DOROTHY*cough*

      Dang. I need a lozenge.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      Is it possible that there won't be flashbacks regularly in every episode?

      Yes, it is....but Camelot will have a few for sure. Merida will too. Snow and Charming/ Snow vs Regina have one as well, every half season. 

      Maybe we wont have flashbacks in every episode because Emma is (maybe, but I hope she is) in the EF, the promo was only to how evil, insane and wicked she was gonna look, so we don't now. But if she is in the EF we will only have Merida flashback's and Camelot flashback's. And I think Rumple will appear as the DO again, it's only not known if it's in a flashback dream or anything else.  http://storybrookemirror.tumblr.com/page/2 And is there garanted every half season a Snow versus Evil episode???

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    • OMG!!! OMG!!! OMG!!! Even though it was quite obvious that Rumplestiltskin would return in flashback's I am still very excited!! I want to see villain Hook again, he is much better than Emma loving Hook, unless for him loving Emma means to become a villain again. If she is never going to become who she was before it would be much safer for him to join her. And I want to see Cruella, I liked her, Maybe the witch will be the one to teach Cruella a little magic (she enchanted her car). And I want Maleficent/Aurora flashback's, the sleeping beauty story needed a bit more backstory. And Mulan, obvious. 

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    • I really want to see Maleficent's backstory. We don't know how she became evil, how she could into a dragon, why she hated Aurora and Briar Rose so much ...

      Oh, I wish Maleficent would teach Lily how to use magic and how to be a scary dragon bitch like her :)

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    • I wanted to see Aurora in 4B, it's kinda sad they snobbed her last minute after it seemed they had plans for her last season. Tbh now, I don't expect to see focus on her.

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    • Interesting oppinions!! But Ectually I meant more who would you like to see in the flashback's with Merida. Merida will definatly appear in The Dark Swan. And I think it's in the EF, and I don't know if it's in the past or present, but Emma is there too so I guess it's in the present or in a dream. And  the stone circle is also rebuild. I have real high expeactations of this season!!! 

      http://storybrookemirror.tumblr.com/

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    • If they are doing their own version of Brave's story, I hope they will replace The Witch with Maleficent or maybe the blind Witch from season first.

      I hope Merida is Snow's teacher, so I would like to see their flashback. And I hope to see Queen Elinor, and Mor'du.

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    • Brzoskwinia wrote:
      If they are doing their own version of Brave's story, I hope they will replace The Witch with Maleficent or maybe the blind Witch from season first.

      I don't think they will do that. But it's a great idea :)

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    • Brzoskwinia wrote: If they are doing their own version of Brave's story, I hope they will replace The Witch with Maleficent or maybe the blind Witch from season first.

      They could replace her with Rumple, I know it's kind of repetitive, but she did make a deal with Merida in the movie, it was the usual "magic always comes at a price".

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:

      Brzoskwinia wrote: If they are doing their own version of Brave's story, I hope they will replace The Witch with Maleficent or maybe the blind Witch from season first.

      They could replace her with Rumple, I know it's kind of repetitive, but she did make a deal with Merida in the movie, it was the usual "magic always comes at a price".

      Or Regina's old woman form! Underused, lol.

      Merida runs into Snow and then runs into witch Regina who gives her the thing that curses her mother.

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    • I posted it elsewhere, but I would like to see a flashback for the traditional Snow vs Regina, and have this flashback include Merida (as Snow's Mentor) along with Red.

      That aside, another one would be to go back to a younger Killian, maybe still in the Navy.  I'd like to see if the navy was part of Camelot's military, or if the Kingdom that Killian was a part of was fighting against Camelot. (Not King Arthur, mind you, as Killian's Naval days predate Rumple becoming the Dark One).  Also, maybe finally meet Killian's Dad, who we have all been suspecting was Davy Jones.

      And, as a setup for a future episode, I'd like to go to when Emma was 3 years old and meet the Swan Family.  Remember that Emma was returned to the system because the Family had a child of their own.  While they never said whether the child was a boy or a girl, I would like to see it be a girl. Then Emma, as the Dark One, could seek out revenge on the Family and transform the Swan girl into a Swan (thus really pulling in Swan Lake).

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      I posted it elsewhere, but I would like to see a flashback for the traditional Snow vs Regina, and have this flashback include Merida (as Snow's Mentor) along with Red.

      That aside, another one would be to go back to a younger Killian, maybe still in the Navy.  I'd like to see if the navy was part of Camelot's military, or if the Kingdom that Killian was a part of was fighting against Camelot. (Not King Arthur, mind you, as Killian's Naval days predate Rumple becoming the Dark One).  Also, maybe finally meet Killian's Dad, who we have all been suspecting was Davy Jones.

      And, as a setup for a future episode, I'd like to go to when Emma was 3 years old and meet the Swan Family.  Remember that Emma was returned to the system because the Family had a child of their own.  While they never said whether the child was a boy or a girl, I would like to see it be a girl. Then Emma, as the Dark One, could seek out revenge on the Family and transform the Swan girl into a Swan (thus really pulling in Swan Lake).

      I would think Killian is Arthur's son. Everyone is commenting on how much the actor for Arthur looks like Colin, A&E teased that Camelot may be tied to Hook and may have been around in Hook's naval days.

      I would think. But we all know Guinevere is the woman Lancelot disgraced himself for, and she's Arthur's wife. Meaning all three live in present day, unless Excalibur gives Arthur immortality. I'd say it's a safer bet that Hook had some fun in his pirate days and Arthur is his great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandson.

      And I think we all want to see the Swan family finally, properly introduced. It'd be awesome to bring in Swan Lake through that, making Emma both the Ugly Duckling AND Von Rothbart (the antagonist of Swan Lake) with just a DASH of Odile (the Black Swan).

      And if they name the real Swan daughter Odette, I think I'll freak. LOL

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    • Since we are seeing Camelot this season, I think it would be great if there was a nod to Madam Mim from The Sword in the Stone.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Hmcooper4 wrote:
      I posted it elsewhere, but I would like to see a flashback for the traditional Snow vs Regina, and have this flashback include Merida (as Snow's Mentor) along with Red.

      That aside, another one would be to go back to a younger Killian, maybe still in the Navy.  I'd like to see if the navy was part of Camelot's military, or if the Kingdom that Killian was a part of was fighting against Camelot. (Not King Arthur, mind you, as Killian's Naval days predate Rumple becoming the Dark One).  Also, maybe finally meet Killian's Dad, who we have all been suspecting was Davy Jones.

      And, as a setup for a future episode, I'd like to go to when Emma was 3 years old and meet the Swan Family.  Remember that Emma was returned to the system because the Family had a child of their own.  While they never said whether the child was a boy or a girl, I would like to see it be a girl. Then Emma, as the Dark One, could seek out revenge on the Family and transform the Swan girl into a Swan (thus really pulling in Swan Lake).

      I would think Killian is Arthur's son. Everyone is commenting on how much the actor for Arthur looks like Colin, A&E teased that Camelot may be tied to Hook and may have been around in Hook's naval days.

      I would think. But we all know Guinevere is the woman Lancelot disgraced himself for, and she's Arthur's wife. Meaning all three live in present day, unless Excalibur gives Arthur immortality. I'd say it's a safer bet that Hook had some fun in his pirate days and Arthur is his great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandson.

      And I think we all want to see the Swan family finally, properly introduced. It'd be awesome to bring in Swan Lake through that, making Emma both the Ugly Duckling AND Von Rothbart (the antagonist of Swan Lake) with just a DASH of Odile (the Black Swan).

      And if they name the real Swan daughter Odette, I think I'll freak. LOL

      I do think that Arthur looks a lot like Hook. But it could just be a coincidence. Every time they cast a dark-haired British actor on the show someone thinks that they must be related to Hook. But I do think that it would be cool if Arthur and Killian were relatives.

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    • MasterofCows wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Hmcooper4 wrote:
      I posted it elsewhere, but I would like to see a flashback for the traditional Snow vs Regina, and have this flashback include Merida (as Snow's Mentor) along with Red.

      That aside, another one would be to go back to a younger Killian, maybe still in the Navy.  I'd like to see if the navy was part of Camelot's military, or if the Kingdom that Killian was a part of was fighting against Camelot. (Not King Arthur, mind you, as Killian's Naval days predate Rumple becoming the Dark One).  Also, maybe finally meet Killian's Dad, who we have all been suspecting was Davy Jones.

      And, as a setup for a future episode, I'd like to go to when Emma was 3 years old and meet the Swan Family.  Remember that Emma was returned to the system because the Family had a child of their own.  While they never said whether the child was a boy or a girl, I would like to see it be a girl. Then Emma, as the Dark One, could seek out revenge on the Family and transform the Swan girl into a Swan (thus really pulling in Swan Lake).

      I would think Killian is Arthur's son. Everyone is commenting on how much the actor for Arthur looks like Colin, A&E teased that Camelot may be tied to Hook and may have been around in Hook's naval days.

      I would think. But we all know Guinevere is the woman Lancelot disgraced himself for, and she's Arthur's wife. Meaning all three live in present day, unless Excalibur gives Arthur immortality. I'd say it's a safer bet that Hook had some fun in his pirate days and Arthur is his great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandson.

      And I think we all want to see the Swan family finally, properly introduced. It'd be awesome to bring in Swan Lake through that, making Emma both the Ugly Duckling AND Von Rothbart (the antagonist of Swan Lake) with just a DASH of Odile (the Black Swan).

      And if they name the real Swan daughter Odette, I think I'll freak. LOL

      I do think that Arthur looks a lot like Hook. But it could just be a coincidence. Every time they cast a dark-haired British actor on the show someone thinks that they must be related to Hook. But I do think that it would be cool if Arthur and Killian were relatives.

      Aside from Blackbeard, who is related to Hook (just not genetically), and Liam (who IS related to Hook), what other Britsh, black-haired actors have we had on the show? Black hair is surprisingly rare on this show, I think only Hook and Snow have had it.

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    • It's probably just a coicedence. Everyone gets their feathers ruffled.

      "Oh my, Ingrid is Emma's real mom?" "Oh my, Maleficent is Emma's real mom?" "Oh my, Glinda is related to Emma?"

      These are a few things I heard and it was hilariously wrong. Just because Arthur has balck hair means nothing.

      I thin many are just trying to create family for Hook that he doesn't need. I know some want some sort of backstory for it, but I and some others don't. I know I may dislike him, but really, some time travel voodoo Hook's dfad thing is a stretch and really wishful thinking.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      MasterofCows wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Hmcooper4 wrote:
      I posted it elsewhere, but I would like to see a flashback for the traditional Snow vs Regina, and have this flashback include Merida (as Snow's Mentor) along with Red.

      That aside, another one would be to go back to a younger Killian, maybe still in the Navy.  I'd like to see if the navy was part of Camelot's military, or if the Kingdom that Killian was a part of was fighting against Camelot. (Not King Arthur, mind you, as Killian's Naval days predate Rumple becoming the Dark One).  Also, maybe finally meet Killian's Dad, who we have all been suspecting was Davy Jones.

      And, as a setup for a future episode, I'd like to go to when Emma was 3 years old and meet the Swan Family.  Remember that Emma was returned to the system because the Family had a child of their own.  While they never said whether the child was a boy or a girl, I would like to see it be a girl. Then Emma, as the Dark One, could seek out revenge on the Family and transform the Swan girl into a Swan (thus really pulling in Swan Lake).

      I would think Killian is Arthur's son. Everyone is commenting on how much the actor for Arthur looks like Colin, A&E teased that Camelot may be tied to Hook and may have been around in Hook's naval days.

      I would think. But we all know Guinevere is the woman Lancelot disgraced himself for, and she's Arthur's wife. Meaning all three live in present day, unless Excalibur gives Arthur immortality. I'd say it's a safer bet that Hook had some fun in his pirate days and Arthur is his great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandson.

      And I think we all want to see the Swan family finally, properly introduced. It'd be awesome to bring in Swan Lake through that, making Emma both the Ugly Duckling AND Von Rothbart (the antagonist of Swan Lake) with just a DASH of Odile (the Black Swan).

      And if they name the real Swan daughter Odette, I think I'll freak. LOL

      I do think that Arthur looks a lot like Hook. But it could just be a coincidence. Every time they cast a dark-haired British actor on the show someone thinks that they must be related to Hook. But I do think that it would be cool if Arthur and Killian were relatives.
      Aside from Blackbeard, who is related to Hook (just not genetically), and Liam (who IS related to Hook), what other Britsh, black-haired actors have we had on the show? Black hair is surprisingly rare on this show, I think only Hook and Snow have had it.

      There haven't been that many actors on the shwo that people thought were related to Hook. Really the only ones that you brought up. Arthur might be realted to Hook and he might not be. I guess we'll have to see when the season starts! :)

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    • Hook: Blackbeard, Ursula, Baelfire, Ariel, Emma, Rumple, Smee, Pan, Felix, Belle, Cora, Regina.

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    • One other thing I saw in the TV Guide article is that Josh (or someone) mentions that Charming is going to 'bro out' with Arthur.  So that first rules out that Arthur would have been around during Killian's Naval days (though does not rule out that Killian was fighting for or against the Camelot of that era). But it sets up that Arthur's Camelot is recent history (ie, contemporary with the season 1 flashbacks for the Snow White story) and/or Present day.  And it looks like it might be some real growth for Charming as a character.

      And who knows. I doubt that Arthur is in storybrooke, but it could be possible that one or more of the KOTRT got caught in one of the dark curses.(and let's face it, were going to have to, at some point, accept that other main fairy tale characters exist in storybrooke that we have not yet met).

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    • It's possible that Hook knows Arthur and isn't saying anything. There have been a couple occasions that Hook has held back information. But I don't know. 

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    • MasterofCows wrote:
      It's possible that Hook knows Arthur and isn't saying anything. There have been a couple occasions that Hook has held back information. But I don't know. 

      In this case, I don't think so. Unless it is something about Merlin.  All present signs point to Arthur and Company being contemporary with Snow and Charming.

      I'm still hopeful for some more Naval Background with Killian and Liam.

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    • For Hook I really hope that Davy Jones turns out to be his dad, but I do not need to see him this season (maybe a hint towards it would be nice). However Naval Hook indeed needs to be adressed again.

      For Merida flashbacks I'm just thinking the standard one with Snow in her bandit days (hopefully) along with Red. And I'm also a supporter of Maleficent being the witch in Merida's story. However I wouldn't mind Cruella being it as well because her powers fit better for it, only not her attire xD

      But for Maleficent we need lots and lots of backstory about HER and not other characters. Who did she meet that is Lily's father, why does she hate Briar Rose, what is their whole history together etc. etc.

      And one last thing I really really hope to see is the Headless Horseman. I mean c'mon he would fit so well in this Camelot arc. They really should incorperate him in it.

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      MasterofCows wrote:
      It's possible that Hook knows Arthur and isn't saying anything. There have been a couple occasions that Hook has held back information. But I don't know. 
      In this case, I don't think so. Unless it is something about Merlin.  All present signs point to Arthur and Company being contemporary with Snow and Charming.

      I'm still hopeful for some more Naval Background with Killian and Liam.

      I really want to see another backstory with Killian and Liam too. But the only way that they'll do it is if it somehow fits into the overall storyline. So if they have no connection to Camelot, we probably won't get it this season, at least not in 5A.

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    • Camelot could still be connected to Killian (and Liam), just not the contemporary Camelot with King Arthur.  Not saying that it is, mind you, just saying taht it could. Which means that it is possible that Lt. Killian Jones interacted with an ancester of Arthur Pendragon.  And I could see any number of ways to make that interaction relevant to the present day.

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    • I want Maleficent to have a conection with Merida, maybe Lily's dad lives in her kingdom. And I definatly want to see the old witch from brave, but I don't know who else I want to see.

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