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    • Hopefully someone will ask her. Since she's at the convention maybe that's a good sign.

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    • I hope so. Mulan IS coming back for sure and if Ruby also is coming back then the season is already complete for me xD

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    • When was it confirmed that Mulan is coming back? That makes me excited!

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    • Bgwinstonfc30 wrote: When was it confirmed that Mulan is coming back? That makes me excited!

      I have the source where it says that it in my profile.

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    • Okay, Mulan is not confirmed yet. She was heavily implied to come back last year by A&E. But for now, nothing yet. @Bgwinstonfc30, if you want to know the confirmed info (for now) for the upcoming season, you should read Season Five :)

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    • Lady Junky wrote: Okay, Mulan is not confirmed yet. She was heavily implied to come back last year by A&E. But for now, nothing yet. @Bgwinstonfc30, if you want to know the confirmed info (for now) for the upcoming season, you should read Season Five :)

      I must admit it has yet to be confirmed. But the actress who plays her has said many times she would like to come back and A&E said she's on top of the list of things they would like to address. Like all of us, I expect it to be confirmed.

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    • Ruby is definitely among my favorites from among the non-main cast characters, and I hope that Adam and Eddy can come up with definite story lines that include Ruby for at least a couple of appearances. I think there might some opportunites as the group searches for both Emma and Camelot to utilize Ruby.

      Actually, I'd almost like to see them do a spin-off to cover a hiatus with Meghan as the lead.  There are several Fairy Tales that feature wolves prominently, so a spinoff with a wolf theme could be good for a 11-13 episode standalone arc.  We could also pull in Beverly Eliot, and maybe introduce a few more of the Werewolf clan.  Maybe even have more flashbacks to Anita, and maybe even a Young Widow Lucas (and maybe find out her real name, since I am sure that it isn't Granny).

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      Ruby is definitely among my favorites from among the non-main cast characters, and I hope that Adam and Eddy can come up with definite story lines that include Ruby for at least a couple of appearances. I think there might some opportunites as the group searches for both Emma and Camelot to utilize Ruby.

      Actually, I'd almost like to see them do a spin-off to cover a hiatus with Meghan as the lead.  There are several Fairy Tales that feature wolves prominently, so a spinoff with a wolf theme could be good for a 11-13 episode standalone arc.  We could also pull in Beverly Eliot, and maybe introduce a few more of the Werewolf clan.  Maybe even have more flashbacks to Anita, and maybe even a Young Widow Lucas (and maybe find out her real name, since I am sure that it isn't Granny).

      If that happened I could die in peace.

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      Ruby is definitely among my favorites from among the non-main cast characters, and I hope that Adam and Eddy can come up with definite story lines that include Ruby for at least a couple of appearances. I think there might some opportunites as the group searches for both Emma and Camelot to utilize Ruby.

      Actually, I'd almost like to see them do a spin-off to cover a hiatus with Meghan as the lead.  There are several Fairy Tales that feature wolves prominently, so a spinoff with a wolf theme could be good for a 11-13 episode standalone arc.  We could also pull in Beverly Eliot, and maybe introduce a few more of the Werewolf clan.  Maybe even have more flashbacks to Anita, and maybe even a Young Widow Lucas (and maybe find out her real name, since I am sure that it isn't Granny).

      I so want this to happen! More of Granny's past, more Peter and oh, maybe Cruella could be the main villain in Red's solo arc. I always thought that it's a lost cause that Cruella was not related much with Red/Granny/Anita so far. Hope they have history together. If they can't find a good way to fit Ruby for S5 then this should be a very good way of bringing back Ruby to the 'show'.

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    • She did get her own novel, so I wouldn't be surprised if she got her own spin-off. However I do think she would fit in the Camelot storyline, there must be a way to fit her in.

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    • DarKingdomHearts wrote:
      She did get her own novel, so I wouldn't be surprised if she got her own spin-off. However I do think she would fit in the Camelot storyline, there must be a way to fit her in.

      Um, the novel is her spin off. You have to be delusional to believe that Once would give Ruby a spin-off after not being relevant in two seasons and with a failed prior spin off.

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    • I won't talk about the fact this book is still not sure to be canon. But the fact she got her own novel is not a good news to me. Look who got a novel: the Huntsman and Jefferson. Some characters we won't prolly ever see again on the main show ^^ If they gave them a story it is because they can't conluse their story during OUAT. Same thing with Ruby.

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    • Saying the new book is Canon is a bit presumptuous, though the other OUaT graphic novels have been classified as canon.

      Also, Jefferson did not get a book, He  got a story in a book, along with Regina, Killian, and Rumple & Belle.  Granted, the Huntsman did get a large chunk in Shadow of the Queen, so I guess that qualifies as getting a book.

      But I would not be so doom and gloom on the RRH novel. The chances of getting either Sebastian Stan or Jamie Dornan to appear in an episode, given their current status, would be slim and probably very expensive.  Getting Meghan back, on the other hand, is a more realistic option.  She has indicated that she is willing to return, she does not (to my knowledge) have any current projects interfereing, and she likely does not come with quite as hefty of a price tag.  All in all, it is possible and resonable.

      Of course, that all depends on if Adam and Eddy have a place for her in the story line. It's really up to them at this point.

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    • Did I say the book is canon? No. So, ne need to say what I'm saying is presumptuous when it is clearly not my case ;) I also know Jefferson did not a proper book and just a story, I read and worked on Out of the Past. But, sorry I thought people would understand what I meant when I said he "got a book".

      Then, getting Meghan back is not so more realistic. As it was said some times ago, something happened behind the scenes with her. That's why she was absent for the fourth season. Clearly, they were able to bring back Archie or even Granny during some ep, including the finale. Meghan did not have a project when they did a finale, and it was the perfect occasion for her. So yeah, I don't think Meghan's return is as easy as you said it HmC :)

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    • Sorry, Lady, I was AGREEING with you in stating that saying it's canon is presumptuous.  I apologize for the confusion.

      As for Meghan, I am not privy to the behind the scenes goings on. My statement is simply based on comments that I have heard that state that Meghan is willing to return, and based on the fact that she is currently not involved with a different project, it would appear to be feasible to make that happen.  So, if there is a problem, it does not appear to be from her side (though I will leave room for me being wrong). And I never said it would be easy, just possible and reasonable.

      I go back to my last statement, in that the decision to have her back is in Adam and Eddy's hands.

      Now, if there is a problem between A&E and Meghan, i hope they can resolve it.

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    • I agree with you cooper, I think Meghan can return to the show at any moment but she'll need to have something to do on the show in the first place and that's up to A&E.

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      Sorry, Lady, I was AGREEING with you in stating that saying it's canon is presumptuous.  I apologize for the confusion.


      No no I apologize ^^ I prolly did not understand what you meant :P

      And the thing about Meghan's problem, people are not sure if she has a problem with ABC or A&E. Personally, I think it is with ABC but again not sure ^^

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:

      Now, if there is a problem between A&E and Meghan, i hope they can resolve it.

      I think, the problem is more between Meghan Ory and ABC.

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    • Well, I hope that they can resolve it, regardless.

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    • And what exactly is this problem with ABC or A&E? Is it because she left?

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    • Also, I believe this situation has happened before. Eion Bailey for whatever reason didn't want to be in the show and left. From what I hear he didn't get along with others on set. But he returned 2 years later.

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    • Tails-make-the-fox wrote:
      Eion Bailey for whatever reason didn't want to be in the show and left. From what I hear he didn't get along with others on set. 

      That is what I heard, as well.... and I have a good feeling is was true. Just because the cast and crew hated him, does not mean that Eddy and Adam could not bring him back. Meghan Ory's problem seems to be with ABC, which is a different problen into itself.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:

      Tails-make-the-fox wrote:
      Eion Bailey for whatever reason didn't want to be in the show and left. From what I hear he didn't get along with others on set. 

      That is what I heard, as well.... and I have a good feeling is was true. Just because the cast and crew hated him, does not mean that Eddy and Adam could not bring him back. Meghan Ory's problem seems to be with ABC, which is a different problen into itself.

      Where did you both here those rumors. You say you heard it, but that does not mean it is true.

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    • Maybe a good news for Ruby's fans : http://www.tvguide.com/news/mega-buzz-once-upon-a-time-merida-emma/?rss=breakingnews

      "You don't bring Merida on and not let her shoot her weapon," co-creator Edward Kitsis said, "Merida really fits in. You see her with Snow, you see her with Ruby, you see her with anyone."

      Does it mean that Ruby will be back ? :P

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    • Fan de Lost wrote:
      Maybe a good news for Ruby's fans :

      http://www.tvguide.com/news/mega-buzz-once-upon-a-time-merida-emma/?rss=breakingnews

      "You don't bring Merida on and not let her shoot her weapon," co-creator Edward Kitsis said, "Merida really fits in. You see her with Snow, you see her with Ruby, you see her with anyone."

      Does it mean that Ruby will be back ? :P

      I don't know. It's a possibility and oppurtunity for me.

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    • Fan de Lost wrote: Maybe a good news for Ruby's fans : http://www.tvguide.com/news/mega-buzz-once-upon-a-time-merida-emma/?rss=breakingnews

      "You don't bring Merida on and not let her shoot her weapon," co-creator Edward Kitsis said, "Merida really fits in. You see her with Snow, you see her with Ruby, you see her with anyone."

      Does it mean that Ruby will be back ? :P

      I saw this yesterday, but forgot to post it so thanks :)

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    • I don't see that as confirmation because they haven't really announced her return or neither has she been seen filming.

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    • I don't know - "you see her with Ruby" sounds pretty much like an accidental confirmation that she's back!

      Although, saying that A&E are prone to misleads ALL THE TIME. So for now, I wouldn't read too much into it, especially since Meghan has said she hasn't heard anything yet.

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    • I think if they were just saying she would look good with Ruby, they would have said "You could see her with Ruby", not "you see her with Ruby". However, we're not going to know anthing until Meghan, A&E or ABC announce something.

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    • Honestly, am I the only one who's under the impression there's been some beef between Meghan and some "power that be" at the time she went for Intelligence? Of course it is 10000% rampant speculation and there's really nothing that explicitly suggests that, but for some reasons I have this impression...

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    • GothicNarcissus wrote: Honestly, am I the only one who's under the impression there's been some beef between Meghan and some "power that be" at the time she went for Intelligence? Of course it is 10000% rampant speculation and there's really nothing that explicitly suggests that, but for some reasons I have this impression...

      No, we aren't oblivious to that issue like you think.

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    • I know granny is in the premiere. Meghan was in Vancouver Island 2 weeks ago? Maybe she's in the premiere. :)

      https://instagram.com/p/4x_x8TsNtY/?taken-by=meghanrory

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    • I stood on the outside of this thread, but what's with all the wishful thinking? They have really given you little to go on and if she did appear it;ll be for one scene like season 3 and it's really not the most exciting news or major plot item.

      Granny will always be there. That doesn't relate to Ruby being present at all.

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    • Eskaver wrote: I stood on the outside of this thread, but what's with all the wishful thinking? They have really given you little to go on and if she did appear it;ll be for one scene like season 3 and it's really not the most exciting news or major plot item.

      Granny will always be there. That doesn't relate to Ruby being present at all.

      I don't care. At least it's something :)

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    • Even if it's one scene it's good. The show is about hope so I'm hoping she is in the premiere. When was the last time Meghan was in Vancouver?

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    • Funny you guys should mention Vancouver, because that is exactly where I went when I was in a Disney Cruise Line to Alaska.

      Alright, back to Ruby.

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    • I found an interview with her, and it's in Italian, so when my computer translated it into English it made it kinda weird but mostly readable:

      'The first question that we made ​​to Meghan concerns a doubt shared by many fans of Ruby , who have not had the chance to see her in the season just ended of Once Upon a Time: 'Little Red Riding Hood will be back on the show? "I believe that there are excellent opportunities Ruby reappear in the next season: the authors would like to get her back, so it is very likely that we will review. I myself want to find her Storybrooke and want that she has finally his happy ending. I do not know anything about the possible storyline that will create for you but there are good chances to see you again " , Meghan told us with a big smile. We have then asked to imagine a possible happy ending for the character and make some assumptions about his soul mate: "I think Ruby can find his happy ending helping others ... his friends and his family. Her happiness is probably related to this, rather than a realization totally individual " .

      There's some other stuff in the interview too, but I thought this was the most important. I'm also probably not the first person to talk about this interview, but I haven't seen it anywhere else.

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    • First the writers randomly mention her in an article, now she is in Vancouver, that's 2 coincidences. I repeat, when was the last time Meghan travelled to Vancouver?

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    • I found a possible clue that Meghan will return in season 5.

      It was found on Twitter, and it says behind translation: "Meghan Ory says in an interview that will return in Season 5 of OUAT"

      Here is a Link: https://twitter.com/BraziNewsOuat/status/612348829258616832/photo/1

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:
      First the writers randomly mention her in an article, now she is in Vancouver, that's 2 coincidences. I repeat, when was the last time Meghan travelled to Vancouver?

      She travels there regularly. She was raised on Vancouver Island.  She may still have a home or family in the area.

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    • They could still introduce a child Red since Granny mention getting a red cloak from a sorcerer indicating Merlin gave the cloak to the apprentice who gave it to Granny.

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    • Another clue for her return : http://www.melty.fr/once-upon-a-time-saison-5-meghan-ory-le-retour-de-ruby-est-en-negociation-exclu-a443247.html

      Sorry, but this interview is in French... During her stay in Paris, for the Fairy Tales Convention back in June, Meghan Ory stated her return was in talk for season 5... She said it would be funny to see another side of her character, like her darkness, and thinks Ruby has been living her life during season 3 and 4 ! I really hope she will be able to come back ! What do you think about it ?

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    • As the new Dark One, “There’s a real driving force behind what Emma is doing and why,” says co-creator Adam Horowitz. “Emma [before] was a very smart person who did things for a reason, and that translates. It’s not a rampant evil that’s been unleashed.” Even so, “Emma is going to do something particularly bad,” co-creator Eddy Kitsis assures, “and to the people she loves.” All the more reason for those near and dear to get thee to Camelot and find Merlin, posthaste! Though it’s not as if that realm’s denizens are just sitting around, waiting to help out. “You’ll see a bromance between Charming and King Arthur, but others might be more skeptical [of our heroes],” Kitsis says. The people of Camelot, after all, “have a similar goal to ours.” Elsewhere: Belle will team with Brave’s Merida during her quest to revive Rumple, while everyone is advised to be frightened of pregnant Zelena – “and in the premiere, you will see why,” Kitsis teases. BONUS SPOILER!: “I hope there’s a full moon this year,” Kitsis shares. “You never know who might come out….”

      ...

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    • Exactly, red in her wolf state.

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    • And now this is no longer the question! The real question now is, for how long?

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    • I'm so happy! Dreams come true she's back! Zelena has some competition for my favourite character now!

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    • HalcyonJays wrote:
      I'm so happy! Dreams come true she's back! Zelena has some competition for my favourite character now!


      And watch Emma or Zelena make a wolfskin coat, lol.

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    • In season three finale it was like five seconds or so. I hope she will be one of the regulars again, or was she even a regular?

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    • She was a regular for Season 2, and probably still would be if she didn't leave for Intelligance. And who can blame her? Lead role! And YES Eskaver lol

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    • They could have make a episode of Curella against Red in Season 4, man. Like she was controling Red but Red got empowerment and beat her down, man

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    • Yes!! *_*

      Now... my hopes are that she appears in 5 episodes (at least) and that she does something useful. If that happens, I'm happy, but if I were the writer I'd have her in 7-8 episodes in this arc alone.

      I guess we are going to see her in Camelot with the rest of the gang, that'll be exciting.

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    • Would love for Red to come back and yes when Cruella said "If that old bag still wolfed out, I'd turn her into a coat for my collection!" my mind instantly went to a Cruella-Red showdown that sadly wasn't to be. 

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      And watch Emma or Zelena make a wolfskin coat, lol.

      That would be hilarious and grotesque, at the same time!

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    • Yes she is coming back

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    • She is back, that's good. I wonder how she will be used this season. The problem with Once is that they have so many characters that have to juggle that even when they have actors back in episodes, half the time their roles in them are less than amazing. Like Ashley and Aurora in 4A. Sure it was a cute scene, but did we really need to see them in a Mommy and Me class? What did that do for us? The most interesting part of that whole scene was finding out Aurora's baby was named Phillip.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      She is back, that's good. I wonder how she will be used this season. The problem with Once is that they have so many characters that have to juggle that even when they have actors back in episodes, half the time their roles in them are less than amazing. Like Ashley and Aurora in 4A. Sure it was a cute scene, but did we really need to see them in a Mommy and Me class? What did that do for us? The most interesting part of that whole scene was finding out Aurora's baby was named Phillip.

      The point of the Mommy and Me class was to portray, Emma's pain of not being raised by her parents. She grew up alone, and now had to watch her brother get everything she ever wanted.

      Regarding Ruby in S5: she will probably be used in a similar fashion to how she was in S1.... noticable but not major.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      She is back, that's good. I wonder how she will be used this season. The problem with Once is that they have so many characters that have to juggle that even when they have actors back in episodes, half the time their roles in them are less than amazing. Like Ashley and Aurora in 4A. Sure it was a cute scene, but did we really need to see them in a Mommy and Me class? What did that do for us? The most interesting part of that whole scene was finding out Aurora's baby was named Phillip.
      The point of the Mommy and Me class was to portray, Emma's pain of not being raised by her parents. She grew up alone, and now had to watch her brother get everything she ever wanted.

      Regarding Ruby in S5: she will probably be used in a similar fashion to how she was in S1.... noticable but not major.

      I should have specified, what was the point of Ashley and Aurora in the Mommy and Me class? That scene could have worked just as well without them in it.

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    • It could've worked, but if that was they way they found to show us they are still alive and in SB, which we know, then why not? xD It's better than not having them at all imo.

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    • Oh my I may actually cry, she's coming back!

      This arc is going to kick some ass.

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    • I hope they will develop her relationship with Whale

      That had potential!

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    • I'm really glad that she's back. Do you guys think that they'll address the fact that she's been gone? I'm thinking they might not, but she was pretty important for a good chunk of season 2 so if they didn't I would be confused. 

      I also hope they possibly develop her relationship with Whale - maybe there will be a joint explanation as to why both of them have been gone since season 3. However, I haven't heard anything about David Anders coming back, so i'm not getting my hopes up.

      Also, I bet Beverly Elliott is ecstatic.

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    • Killian Jones wrote:
      It could've worked, but if that was they way they found to show us they are still alive and in SB, which we know, then why not? xD It's better than not having them at all imo.

      I like that they bring them back, I just wish it was for more than one scene with three lines of dialog for them.

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    • Bgwinstonfc30 wrote:
      I'm really glad that she's back. Do you guys think that they'll address the fact that she's been gone? I'm thinking they might not, but she was pretty important for a good chunk of season 2 so if they didn't I would be confused. 

      I also hope they possibly develop her relationship with Whale - maybe there will be a joint explanation as to why both of them have been gone since season 3. However, I haven't heard anything about David Anders coming back, so i'm not getting my hopes up.

      Also, I bet Beverly Elliott is ecstatic.

      I posted this in another thread, but it answers your question, so I'm posting it again here:

      Maybe, but I doubt it. Besides, I think everyone forgets all of season 4 took place over the course of like 2 to 4 weeks (1 to 2 weeks for Frozen, 1 to 2 weeks for Queens of Darkness, with a 6 week time jump seperating them). So while we had a lot of episodes we didn't see Ruby, it was not a lot of time we didn't see Ruby. Ruby being "in the back" every time characters are in Granny's is not that strange if you really think about it. I mean Granny owns the diner and the bed and breakfast, so there is alot of work to be done. And seeing as they already established that Granny is planning on giving Ruby the businesses, it makes sense she would be working on alot of the behind the scenes stuff.

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    • Yes but those were not just random days. She was not around during the Spell of Shattered Sight or the attack of Chernabog or the Alternate Universe events (She had to be in the AU council scene since she was part of the council back in season 1)

      That's why is noticeable, IMO

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    • Could she be outside of SB? Maybe she moved to Bosten, if she was gone, the AU couldn't affect her. And when Granny contacts her and tells her what happens, she comes back. Could be, it's the onlylogical explination.

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    • Alex The OUaT Fan wrote:
      Could she be outside of SB? Maybe she moved to Bosten, if she was gone, the AU couldn't affect her. And when Granny contacts her and tells her what happens, she comes back. Could be, it's the onlylogical explination.

      It's impossible. When they came back to SB via the second DC, Flyings Monkeys were there and no one was able to espace the town. Then, Elsa arrived, and we got the Ice Wall, which went under the control of Ingrid. After the end of the Ice Wall, Ingrid's spell stayed active (cf 411) making impossible a return to SB when you left it. Unles you have the sorcerer's scroll. And the last person who got it? Gold.

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    • It was possible for a few hours of a gap. She could've left then.

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      Alex The OUaT Fan wrote:
      Could she be outside of SB? Maybe she moved to Bosten, if she was gone, the AU couldn't affect her. And when Granny contacts her and tells her what happens, she comes back. Could be, it's the onlylogical explination.
      It's impossible. When they came back to SB via the second DC, Flyings Monkeys were there and no one was able to espace the town. Then, Elsa arrived, and we got the Ice Wall, which went under the control of Ingrid. After the end of the Ice Wall, Ingrid's spell stayed active (cf 411) making impossible a return to SB when you left it. Unles you have the sorcerer's scroll. And the last person who got it? Gold.

      Actually, when Regina and Emma went to NYC and brought back Zelena, Lily, and Robin, I specifically recall Emma commenting on grabbing the scroll before they left Storybrooke. So at last check, the scroll is probably in the possession of one of these two sorceresses (Emma or Regina). Or at least in the front seat of the Yellow Bug.

      As to Ruby, I doubt she left SB. Her only reason to leave SB would be to get away from being a wolf, and escape her Grandma.  but those issues were resolved by the end of season 2. So she has no reason to want to leave SB.

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      Lady Junky wrote:
      Alex The OUaT Fan wrote:
      Could she be outside of SB? Maybe she moved to Bosten, if she was gone, the AU couldn't affect her. And when Granny contacts her and tells her what happens, she comes back. Could be, it's the onlylogical explination.
      It's impossible. When they came back to SB via the second DC, Flyings Monkeys were there and no one was able to espace the town. Then, Elsa arrived, and we got the Ice Wall, which went under the control of Ingrid. After the end of the Ice Wall, Ingrid's spell stayed active (cf 411) making impossible a return to SB when you left it. Unles you have the sorcerer's scroll. And the last person who got it? Gold.
      Actually, when Regina and Emma went to NYC and brought back Zelena, Lily, and Robin, I specifically recall Emma commenting on grabbing the scroll before they left Storybrooke. So at last check, the scroll is probably in the possession of one of these two sorceresses (Emma or Regina). Or at least in the front seat of the Yellow Bug.

      True, but it does not change the main point: Ruby could not use it if she left the town ^^

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    • Techincally, someone could levae Storybrooke with the scroll to find Ruby in the LWM and bring her back. It's 0,0001% of chance, but it is still possible XD

      But I'd rather they don't give an explanation for her being missing. Honestly, she wasn't even MENTIONED in Season Four. If she went missing, or traveled or was kindnapped or anything it won't make sense for no one to have commented on that, I guess.

      (OK, those could have happened off-screen. Like when Emma mentioned to Regina in 405 that no one in town had seen Sidney for a while.)

      I hate when characters that disappear are treated as if no one remembers them. You really wnat me to believe that the Charmings never thought of Spencer again after he tried to get Ruby killed? BTW that's something I'd like to see. Dark Ruby getting revenge over him. King George is to be painly muredered XD

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    • I think Ruby deserves a flashback episode this season, probably in 5b since we already know of 6 episodes for 5A already and none of them hint at including her, and in this flashback I'd like to see Ruby have a confrontation with Cruella during Cruella's stay in the Enchanted Forest. Like Cruella receives word from Rumpel, even though she doesn't know it was him, to come to Maleficent's castle and on her way she runs into Ruby and tries to control her for whatever reason. It would make sense chronologically if you ask me, and it's just something I think would be neat.

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:
      Techincally, someone could levae Storybrooke with the scroll to find Ruby in the LWM and bring her back. It's 0,0001% of chance, but it is still possible XD

      But I'd rather they don't give an explanation for her being missing. Honestly, she wasn't even MENTIONED in Season Four. If she went missing, or traveled or was kindnapped or anything it won't make sense for no one to have commented on that, I guess.

      (OK, those could have happened off-screen. Like when Emma mentioned to Regina in 405 that no one in town had seen Sidney for a while.)

      I hate when characters that disappear are treated as if no one remembers them. You really wnat me to believe that the Charmings never thought of Spencer again after he tried to get Ruby killed? BTW that's something I'd like to see. Dark Ruby getting revenge over him. King George is to be painly muredered XD

      Yeah, King George wasn't seen in a while. Last time we saw in in a deleted scene of Tiny, he was chained up in the mines of Storybrooke for murdering people, framing Red, and making sure Charming never reunites with his wife and daughter again. But since the second curse, I reckon he is still out there somewhere and plotting more chaos and might ally with other villains from the enchanted forest and other realms to bring destruction like The Horned King, Stromboli, evil trees, minotaurs, black dwarfs, Hans (if he ever returns), Shere Khan the tiger, Prince John, Jafar, Blackbeard, Madame Mim, Black Fairy, Trolls, Witches, Evil Talking Animals, Pirates, Regina's Black Knights and other villains.

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    • Mowgli's Road wrote:
      I think Ruby deserves a flashback episode this season, probably in 5b since we already know of 6 episodes for 5A already and none of them hint at including her, and in this flashback I'd like to see Ruby have a confrontation with Cruella during Cruella's stay in the Enchanted Forest. Like Cruella receives word from Rumpel, even though she doesn't know it was him, to come to Maleficent's castle and on her way she runs into Ruby and tries to control her for whatever reason. It would make sense chronolgicaly if you ask me, and it's just something I think would be neat.

      Of the 6 episodes we don't really know what the flashbacks for them are (except 5x04, we know that's Arthur as a child). And even something like The Bear and The Bow could be a Merida, Ruby, and Snow flashback.

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    • It was fortold that she will appear in multiple episodes of 5a. How many episodes as in multiple? Can anyone tell me?

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    • At least 3.

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    • Everthevillain wrote:
      At least 3.

      Is that what it really stands for?

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    • They said the exact same thing with August and he appeared in 4 episodes. That's a good number, though obviously it doesn't mean it will be the same with Ruby.

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    • Maybe less, hopefully more. I just hope they can give her some purpose n the story again (not that she suddenly becomes Neal's babysitter)

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    • Maybe it's sign that she might return as a regular for next season and appear a little more in this season.

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    • NickyHelp wrote:
      Everthevillain wrote:
      At least 3.
      Is that what it really stands for?

      Multiple just means more than 1, but for the purpose of a tv show, it would be silly for someone to say they are appearing in multiple episodes if they just mean 2, so 3 or more is probably what she's going to appear in.

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    • Granny appears in 10+ episodes every season. In fact I don't think Granny ever appeared without Ruby while Ory was in the show, so I'd say it's safe to assume we'll see here in about 8 episodes.

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    • I think she will appear most of the episodes. But seriously guys... We all know that even the writers couldn't give her a role in the series. They just used her for smelling things and finding somebodies, taking Henry home lol. Although she was a regular in season 2, I always see her as a supporting character. She has never been important and she will never will, so is Belle. Giving her some past with Anna or with Mulan doesn't change the fact that she is nothing without Rumple. The same thing goes to Ruby, with Snow this time. So no matter how many episodes she will appear, she will be useless like everytime.

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    • CadoDoan wrote:
      I think she will appear most of the episodes. But seriously guys... We all know that even the writers couldn't give her a role in the series. They just used her for smelling things and finding somebodies, taking Henry home lol. Although she was a regular in season 2, I always see her as a supporting character. She has never been important and she will never will, so is Belle. Giving her some past with Anna or with Mulan doesn't change the fact that she is nothing without Rumple. The same thing goes to Ruby, with Snow this time. So no matter how many episodes she will appear, she will be useless like everytime.

      But she made a great second in command to Snowing, a messenger girl, and a fierce fighter.

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    • NickyHelp wrote:
      CadoDoan wrote:
      I think she will appear most of the episodes. But seriously guys... We all know that even the writers couldn't give her a role in the series. They just used her for smelling things and finding somebodies, taking Henry home lol. Although she was a regular in season 2, I always see her as a supporting character. She has never been important and she will never will, so is Belle. Giving her some past with Anna or with Mulan doesn't change the fact that she is nothing without Rumple. The same thing goes to Ruby, with Snow this time. So no matter how many episodes she will appear, she will be useless like everytime.
      But she made a great second in command to Snowing, a messenger girl, and a fierce fighter.

      As I said: a supporting character

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    • CadoDoan wrote:
      NickyHelp wrote:
      CadoDoan wrote:
      I think she will appear most of the episodes. But seriously guys... We all know that even the writers couldn't give her a role in the series. They just used her for smelling things and finding somebodies, taking Henry home lol. Although she was a regular in season 2, I always see her as a supporting character. She has never been important and she will never will, so is Belle. Giving her some past with Anna or with Mulan doesn't change the fact that she is nothing without Rumple. The same thing goes to Ruby, with Snow this time. So no matter how many episodes she will appear, she will be useless like everytime.
      But she made a great second in command to Snowing, a messenger girl, and a fierce fighter.
      As I said: a supporting character

      But she still made a great main character and regular. Who knows, perhaps she'll be one again.

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    • CadoDoan wrote:
      NickyHelp wrote:
      CadoDoan wrote:
      I think she will appear most of the episodes. But seriously guys... We all know that even the writers couldn't give her a role in the series. They just used her for smelling things and finding somebodies, taking Henry home lol. Although she was a regular in season 2, I always see her as a supporting character. She has never been important and she will never will, so is Belle. Giving her some past with Anna or with Mulan doesn't change the fact that she is nothing without Rumple. The same thing goes to Ruby, with Snow this time. So no matter how many episodes she will appear, she will be useless like everytime.
      But she made a great second in command to Snowing, a messenger girl, and a fierce fighter.
      As I said: a supporting character

      Yes, she is a supporting character, not every character can be a main character, that's not how stories work. But just because she is a supporting character does not make her useless.

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    • Since this thread has already been answered I'm unfollowing it.

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    • The creators hinted that Ruby may possibly appear in 5b as well. They said maybe, and it may obviously be clear that she will appear in 5b.

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    • NickyHelp wrote: The creators hinted that Ruby may possibly appear in 5b as well. They said maybe, and it may obviously be clear that she will appear in 5b.

      Link? I think so, at least in episode 100.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:

      NickyHelp wrote: The creators hinted that Ruby may possibly appear in 5b as well. They said maybe, and it may obviously be clear that she will appear in 5b.

      Link? I think so, at least in episode 100.

      https://twitter.com/onceuponafan/status/632735037402673152

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    • NickyHelp wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote:

      NickyHelp wrote: The creators hinted that Ruby may possibly appear in 5b as well. They said maybe, and it may obviously be clear that she will appear in 5b.

      Link? I think so, at least in episode 100.

      https://twitter.com/onceuponafan/status/632735037402673152

      Oh, I thought that quote was for the whole season. Nice to know they were talking about that episode in particular.

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    • Chameleon-Guy wrote:

      NickyHelp wrote:

      Chameleon-Guy wrote:

      NickyHelp wrote: The creators hinted that Ruby may possibly appear in 5b as well. They said maybe, and it may obviously be clear that she will appear in 5b.

      Link? I think so, at least in episode 100.
      https://twitter.com/onceuponafan/status/632735037402673152

      Oh, I thought that quote was for the whole season. Nice to know they were talking about that episode in particular.

      Still, the 100th episode may not be the only on she will appear in 5b. Just like Mulan.

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