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  • Emma arrives in Storybrooke on October 22. "True North" takes place a month later in late November. Approximately two weeks later (three weeks after Emma becomes sheriff) Henry looses his book ("The Fruit of the Poisonous Tree") There is a time gap of about two months be fore the next episode "Skin Deep", which takes place on Valentines Day. On February 19, Kathryn goes missing. Gold makes a deal with Regina some time between these two events (February 14-19). One week later, in "Stable Boy", Emma finds Kathryn (Feb. 21-26). Marry Margret is released from prison and goes back to teaching within the next few days (late Feb.- early March). That night, Emma runs away with Henry. The next day, Regina gives Emma a poisoned apple turnover that Henry eats. Within hours Emma fights a dragon, saves Henry, breaks the curse, and is sent to the Enchanted Forest. One week later (Lady of the Lake), Henry tries to rescue his mom and grandma (Early March). Less than a month after the curse is broken Ruby goes through her first wolf phase (Child of the Moon). In this episode it is mentioned that Mary Margaret was suspected of murder a few months ago. That is an error. It was a month and a half at most. Within the next two days, Emma and Mary Margaret return to Storybrooke (March-Early April 2012). The next day, Cora frames Regina of murdering Archie. A few days (maybe weeks) later, Archie returns. Later that night, Gold tries to pass the town line, Belle gets shot, and Hook gets hit by a car. The next day, Gold asks Emma to help him find his son. An unspecified amount of time later (no more than a few days) they leave for New York (March to early May). The next day (approximately) Henry meets his father Neal/Baelfire. Two days later, Regina plots to kill Mary Margaret (Welcome to Storybrooke). The next day (approximately) Marry Margaret confronts Regina who shows her her heart. One week later, Marry Margaret tells David (Selfless, Brave, and True). It is unclear how much time passes before the next episode "Lacey" (possibly a time gap of a few weeks). In this episode Greg and Tamarra kidnap Hook, who they release the next day in "The Evil Queen". It is unclear how much time passes within this episode (a few days at most). Regina is kidnapped and tortured by Greg and Tamara. That same day, Neal is sent through a portal. The next day Greg and Tamara atttempt to destroy Storybrooke. They don't succeed but manage to kidnap Henry and take him to Neverland. His family leaves to find him (March-June 2012). Five days later, Ariel arrives in Storybrooke. No more than a few days later, Henry's famiily returns to Storybrooke. About two days later, everyone but Emma and Henry are sent back to the Enchanted Forest (Late March to Late June). There is a time gap here of one year before Emma and Henry return to Storybrooke (Late March- Late June 2013). It is only a matter of days (weeks at most) before the curse is broken and Mary Margaret has a baby. The next day, Emma and Hook are sent back in time. They manage to make it back but accidently take Maid Marian and Elsa with them (April - July 2013). The first half of season 4 takes place over an unspecified amount of time but ends around November 6, 2013 when the fairies are reported missing. There is a time gap of six weeks before the fairies are released (December 18 approximately). Three weeks later, Regina learns about Zelena (January 8, 2014 approximately). Regina wastes almost no time before planning to go to NY and warn Robin. Her plans are delayed slightly by Cruella. A few days later, Emma and Regina find Lily and Robin Hood. Shortly after, they return to Storybrooke, leading to the events of "Operation Mongoose" (Mid January 2014)

    Season 1: 4-5 months

    Season 2: 1-3.5 months

    Season 3a: 1-2 weeks

    Gap: 1 year

    Season 3b: No more than a few weeks

    Season 4a: 4 months?

    Gap: 6 weeks

    Season 4b: 3-4 weeks

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    • Well I never pay attention because its quite confusing but I do know these: 

      1) Events in Season 4B lasted two weeks or a month maximum (excluding the six weeks gap).

      2) Seasons are supposed to happen back to back. In Storybrooke its probably still 2013. 

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    • Storybrooke is Early 2014. 

      Season 1-3a was 2011 and mid 2012. 3b started in 2013 and then Blue's missing person report said Nov 6, which means 4a was towards the end of the year. Then six to nine weeks later is 4b.

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    • Exactly.

      Season 1 starts in October of 2011 (coninciding with the premiere date of OUaT, surprisingly). There were small time gaps during season 1 that were not necessarily spelled out, but I know like 2 weeks between Grahams death and Emma stepping up for sherrif, plus however long it took for campaigning and election stuff. So, overall, Season 1 was probably 6-8 months.

      Season 2 starts at the end of season one, or roughly late spring of 2012. Emma and Snow were in the EF for probably a week (which covered 9 episodes). The Cora/Hook/New York City portion covered probably 1-2 more weeks, and the Greg and Tamara part were about 1-2 weeks.  So Season 2 was, at most, 2 months of time passage.

      Season 3 starts right at the end of Seaons 2, so it is early-mid summer 2012. The entire Neverland Arc takes about a week, which brings us to late summer 2012.  3B starts with a 1 year jump, so that puts it Late Summer 2013.  The WWotW arc was no more than a week, so we are probably up to around September 2013. (Frozen was not released until Thanksgiving 2013).

      Season 4 starts, again, right where they left season 3. During the Frozen Arc, we know that Blue was reported missing on Nov 6, 2013, and that was right before Anna and Elsa returned to Arendelle (just in time to catch the Frozen Priemier at the Arendelle 24 IMAX). From the point where Blue went missing, there were at most 2 days before the Arendelle gang departs, so the arc ended, and Rumple was banished, around Nov 8-9.

      Season 4B picks up 9 weeks afterward (Heart of Gold), or roughly Mid-January 2014. and again the action is fast and furious, so I would hazard a guess that Operation:Mongoose ends roughly Feb 1, 2014.

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    • I'm having trouble to believe that 3B happened during summer what with all the blizzards and snow...

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    • That, my friend, is the joy of filming on location (in this case, Vancouver).  The shows timeframe might have been summer, but the filming was occurring from December - February/March (which is the dead of winter in Vancouver, and as I recall, that particular year was a harsh winter).  

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    • It is currently January 2014

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    • The flashback in "Smash the Mirror" takes place in 1982. It would have to be early 1982, almost 2 years before the curse, since it takes place before most of the Snow White story and the Belle story.

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    • All possible places for time gaps (more than a week between episodes)

      "The Heart is a Lonely Hunter"-"Desperate Souls" (two weeks)

      "The Fruit of the Posionous Tree"-"Skin Deep" (about two months)

      "Lady of the Lake"-:"The Crocodile" or "The Crocodile" to "The Doctor" (Less than 3 weeks)

      "Slefless, Brave, and True"-"Lacey" (Unknown)

      "Going Home" (1 year)

      "White Out"-"Rocky Road" (Unknown)

      "The Apprentice"-"Breaking Glass" (Unknown)

      "Family Business"-"The Snow Queen" (Unknown)

      "Heroes and Villans" (Six weeks)

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    • When was Henry born? According to "Tallahasse", Henry should have been born no earlier than September 2001. In "The Cricket Game" (March-Early April 2012) Emma says Henry is 11.She is rounding up at least 5 months.

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    • Working backwards from the curse, I am going to try to figure out the approximate time of each event (in real world time). This will help figure out the exact placement in the timeline of each event and create a timeline that includes all realms.

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    • Begfhn wrote:
      Working backwards from the curse, I am going to try to figure out the approximate time of each event (in real world time). This will help figure out the exact placement in the timeline of each event and create a timeline that includes all realms.

      Good luck! But approximates are hard and difficult to disern unless close dtail is shown and you see the dates provided within the episodes!

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    • Timeline of all events before the curse:

      Think Lovely Thoughts-Manhattan-Good Form-The Crocodile-Desperate Souls-Nasty HabbitsThe Return-Second Star to the Right (Bae arrives in the  real world)-The Crocodile (Rumpel kills Milah)-Second Star to the Right (Bae is taken by Pan's shadow)-And Straight On Til Morning-Manhattan (Rumpels last visit with the seer)-That Still Small Voice-Sympathy For the DeVil-Bleeding Through/It's Not Easy Being Green-The Miller's Daughter-Poor Unfortunate Soul-The Snow Queen-The Queen is Dead-Operation MongooseThe Stable Boy-We Are Both-The Doctor/In the Name of the Brother/It's Not Easy Being Green-Kansas-Quite a Common Fairy-Coming Home (Hook and Tinkerbelle)-Enter the Dragon-A Tale Of Two Sisters (Elsa's parents)-Darkness at the Edge of Town-The Fruit of the Poisonous Tree-The Heart is a Lonely Hunter-Red Handed-Child of the Moon-Heart of Gold-Mother-A Tale of Two Sisters-Whie Out-Rocky Road-The Apprentice-Family Business-Smash the Mirror-Skin Deep (Belle moves in with Rumpelstiltskin)-Lacey-Heroes and Villans-The Evil Queen-Tiny-The Shepherd-The Price of Gold (Rumpelstiltskin's deal with Cinderella)-Going Home (Rumpelstiltskin and Belle)-Snow Falls-Skin Deep (Belle moves out)-Hat Trick-Dreamy/The Outsider-Ariel/Skin Deep-7:15 a.m./True North-What Happened to Frederick-Heart of Darkness-An Apple as Red as Blood- Pilot/A Land Without Magic/Lost Girl (Charming Awakening Snow)-Lost Girl-Lady of the Lake-The Cricket Game-Pilot/The Thing You Love Most/The New Neverland (Snow and Charming's wedding)-The New Neverland-Unforgiven-The Price of Gold (Cinderella gets married and finds out she's pregnant)-Best Laid Plans-The Price of Gold (Rumpelstiltskin's imprisonment)-Pilot/The Stranger/Going Home (preperation for curse)-Queen of Hearts(Cora fakes her death)-The Thing You Love Most-Queen of Hearts (Cora creates a barrier)

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    • Wow you people have too much time on your hands O_O But speaking of the OUAT timeline, I don't recall any holiday episodes. I would so love a OUAT Thanksgiving & Christmas episode! Either of them would've fit perfectly at the end of season 3b or 4a. It would just be so fun seeing the Storybrooke residents get all festive! Maybe add some snow for a nice backdrop. Unfortunately, I don't think Storybooke celebrates Thanksgiving or Christmas (not that we know of anyway).

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    • SkyCloud24 wrote:
      Wow you people have too much time on your hands O_O But speaking of the OUAT timeline, I don't recall any holiday episodes. I would so love a OUAT Thanksgiving & Christmas episode! Either of them would've fit perfectly at the end of season 3b or 4a. It would just be so fun seeing the Storybrooke residents get all festive! Maybe add some snow for a nice backdrop. Unfortunately, I don't think Storybooke celebrates Thanksgiving or Christmas (not that we know of anyway).

      Bursting your bubble with the arrow of Cupid, there was a Valentine's episode.

      Also, they don't celebrate Thanksgiving or Christmas. They probably are ploytheistic. "Oh gods!" was used often in the EF. We past Thanksgiving which was the cursed of Shattered Sight and Ingrid's death and Rumple's banishment prior to it by a few weeks. Then, we skipped over the winter holidays.

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    • However, it is interesting to note that the Storybrooke residents are aware of the holidays (like Thanksgiving).  David even made the comment about it after it was discovered that Neal (Henry's Father) was Baelfire, making Rumple Henry's other Grandfather.

      David (to Mary Margaret): It's a good thing we don't celebrate Thanksgiving.  That dinner would suck. (Quote is likely paraphrased, as I don't remember the exact quote.)

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    • Hello! I've tried to figure out the approximate time of each event (in real world time), and I figured out that we have many times clues, at least in the very first episodes. This is what I figured out for now. I only placed some of the events happening each day. What do you think?

      Tuesday 23 October

      (I know the show is supposed to stars on Sunday 23, but Regina says “Every Thursday” two days after, so it’s a Tuesday for all we know)

      Henry goes to Boston and brings Emma to Storybrooke

      Wendesday 24 October

      Emma helps finding Henry and decides to stay in town for a week

      Thursday 25 October

      I think Mary and Whale’s date is this same day, since it must a be a Thursday (the next day is a school day, but two days after is not)

      Emma and Regina battle all the day. Emma is kicked out of granny’s. Mary Margaret goes out on a Date with Doctor Whale and finds Emma sleeping in her car.

      Friday 26 October

      Henry’s class visit the Hospital. Mary Margaret reads to john Doe.

      Saturday 27 October

      John Doe is missing from the Hospital. Emma and Mary Margaret find him.

      1 WEEK GAP ( Ashley runs on a Saturday)

      Halloween

      Friday 2 November

      Emma walks henry to school. She meet Ashley and tells her to change her life.

      Saturday 3 November

      Ashley runs on a Saturday (Regina says: “I don’t enjoy this Saturday city councils”)

      Ashley is missing and Emma finds her. Graham offers her a job.(“See you on Monday”)

      Monday 5 November

      As Emma takes her sheriff badge, the Mines collapses.

      Tuesday 6 November

      Henry and Archie get trapped in the mines. Mary resign from the hospital.

      Friday 9,Saturday 10 or Sunday11 November

      (I count back from Wednesday, when Grahams die).

      David’s welcome party at home after which he lives his wife

      Monday 12 November

      Regina confronts Mary about David.

      David talk to Mary at the school but gain back his memories and goes back home with Katheryn.

      Emma finds out that Graham and Regina have an affair.

      Tuesday 13 November

      Graham says: “You've been avoiding me... since last night when you saw me”

      Graham kiss Emma and see the wolf

      Wednesday 14 November

      Regina says (I bring flowers every wendesday to my father’s grave).

      Graham’s dead’s.

      TWO WEEKS GAP (Two weeks exactly, Since that’s the time the mayor has to propose a new Sherriff)

      Thanksgiving

      Thursday 29 November

      (The first day Graham didn’t work was a Thursday)

      Regina fires Emma

      Friday 30 November

      Emma runs for Sheriff. Emma saves Regina from a fire at the townhouse.

      Saturday 1 December

      Emma expose Mr. Gold at the debate and is elected Sheriff.

      Monday 3 December

      Emma first day as Sheriff

      Monday 10 December

      Emma finds Ava and Nicholas shoplifting.

      Tuesday 11 December

      Emma says “A month Ago” but this being a Month and two weeks after Emma arrives in town, it is closer to a month ago that two month ago. No one says a month and two weeks ago…

      Emma finds Ava and Nicholas’ father.

      August arrives in town.

      Wednesday 12 December

      August talk to Henry.

      Emma finds out that Mary is stalking David. Mary meets Katheryn and discover that she think, she is pregnant.

      Thursday 13 December

      Emma says: “I gave him directions to Granny's the other night. “ Referring to August who arrived two days before.

      Mary fins a dove in the wood. The Storm comes.

      Friday 14 December

      Mary and David stars an affair.

      Saturday 15 December

      Regina claims: “if they were checked out three weeks ago, well, that means they burned... in a fire” The fire was two weeks ago, so the documents from 3 weeks ago burnt.

      Henry finds out that the storm destroy the castle and the book is missing. Emma calls Sidney for help, and plant a Bug at Regina’s office.

      Monday 17 December

      (It’s a working day)

      Sidney mess with the brakes from the sheriff car, and Emma breaks in the mayor Office.

      They need at least a day to build the play house.

      Wednesday 18 December

      Henry is trying to rewrite the book. Emma and Sidney confront Regina at the city council and lose. Regina tells Emma she is no longer allowed to see Henry.

      Thursday 19 December

      August is defoliating the book. Sidney is now Emma’s allies, but he secretly works for Regina.

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    • I am going to organize the EF events by approximate number of years before the curse:

      Think Lovely Thoughts: 170 yrs

      Manhattan-Good Form-The Crocodile: 145 yrs

      Desperate Souls-Nasty HabbitsThe Return-Second Star to the Right -The Crocodile -Second Star to the Right -And Straight On Til Morning: 130 yrs

      That Still Small Voice: 60 yrs

      Bleeding Through/It's Not Easy Being Green-The Miller's Daughter: 45 yrs

      Poor Unfortunate Soul: 30 yrs

      The Snow Queen: 25 yrs

      The Queen is Dead: 20 yrs

      The Stable Boy-We Are Both-The Doctor/In the Name of the Brother/It's Not Easy Being Green-Kansas: 18 yrs

      The Fruit of the Poisonous Tree-The Heart is a Lonely Hunter-Red Handed-Child of the Moon-Heart of Gold-Mother-A Tale of Two Sisters-Whie Out-Rocky Road-The Apprentice-Family Business-Smash the Mirror-Skin Deep (Belle moves in with Rumpelstiltskin)-Lacey-The Evil Queen: 4 yrs

      The Shepherd-The Price of Gold (Rumpelstiltskin's deal with Cinderella)-Going Home (Rumpelstiltskin and Belle)-Snow Falls-Skin Deep (Belle moves out)-Hat Trick-Dreamy/The Outsider-Ariel/Skin Deep-7:15 a.m./True North-What Happened to Frederick-Heart of Darkness-An Apple as Red as Blood- Pilot/A Land Without Magic/Lost Girl (Charming Awakening Snow)-Lost Girl: 3 yrs

      Pilot/The Thing You Love Most/The New Neverland (Snow and Charming's wedding)-The New Neverland-Unforgiven: 9 months

      The Price of Gold (Cinderella gets married and finds out she's pregnant): 8-9 months

      Best Laid Plans: more than 2 months

      The Price of Gold (Rumpelstiltskin's imprisonment): less than a month

      Pilot/The Stranger/Going Home (preperation for curse)-Queen of Hearts(Cora fakes her death)-The Thing You Love Most-Queen of Hearts (Cora creates a barrier): a few days


      I put episodes together if they occur within a short amount of time of one another. If anyone thinks my timing is off, please correct me. Remember, this is just an approximation.

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    • The first two and a half seasons take place over 6-7 months meaning 3A ends in April or May. This means the gap in Season 3 must be more than a year. When 3B begins Henry is in school meaning it is not summer break. It is most likely September 2013 given that 4B ends in November 2014. This means the time gap would actually be at least 16 months, but it would still round to a year. This would also further confirm that Henry is 12 at the beginning of 3B. It still doesn't explain how Henry is 11 in Season 2. If Henry was conceived in 2001 he was not born until at least August, so it wouldn't make sense for him to round up his age in March. It is also mentioned muliple times that Emma was 18 when she had Henry. If Henry is already 10 in Pilot, it implies that Emma was actually only 17, so Henry must have just turned 10. Also, Henry is in fourth grade in season 1, meaning he would still be in fourth grade in season 2, so it is unlikely that he would be 11. Every time Henry's age has been mentioned as 11 has been an error. Henry is never 11 on the show. He is appproximately 10 yrs 8 months at the end of 3A and has just turned 12 at the beginning of 3B. Henry was likely born early September 2001. This means he was 10 years old and in fourth grade (the grade Mary Margaret teaches) for the first two seasons. During the forgotten year he was in fifth grade. When he returns to Sorybrooke in 3B he has just started sixth grade. It is currently the following January so he is closer to 12 than 13.

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    • This would also explain Aurora's pregnancy. Aurora turns into a monkey 8 months before the second curse and gives birth imediately after the curse is broken. This implies that Aurora was 9 months pregnant 8 months before the curse. She just found out she was pregnant in "Quite a Common Fairy" which was only about a week before Pan's curse returned everyone to the EF, so some time must have passed.

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    • October 23, 2011

      Season 1: 4 months

      Late Feb/Early March 2012

      Season 2: 2 months

      Late April/Early May

      3A: 1.5 weeks

      May 2012

      Gap: 16 months

      September 2013

      3B: 1 week

      September

      4A: 2 months

      November

      Gap: 6 weeks

      Late December

      4B: 1 month

      Late January 2014

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    • Buzzkill: Rumple is roughly 300 years old, so you'll have to do some adjusting. 

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    • Why does everyone think that Rumple is 300 years old? I keep hearing that all the time, but that is certainly not what the show says. The show has stated that he is approximately two hundred. In "Going Home", his father says that Mr. Gold is a couple hundred years old, and in "Family Business", Hook (who knew Rumplestiltskin before he became the Dark One) refers to himself as approximately two hundred years old.

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    • The writers say so. Prior to Poor Unfortunate Soul, Eddy (I think) says that Hook and Ursula's story takes place in 1819

      http://www.ew.com/article/2015/03/20/spoiler-room-scoop-greys-glee-orphan-black-and-more

      That is 164 years piror to the curse. Hook and Rumple clearly have been around for some unknown stretch of time before that. Add 30 years to that and that event happened like 200 years ago. Rumple was Dark  One for a some unknown amount of years before that and he was like 50 before becoming Dark One, so he is definitely older than 250. So saying roughly 300 isn't farfetched whatsoever.

      Couple hundred is vague (200-400), less than 500. Hook says he's like 200, but that's probably him flirting or whatever, since Emma also calls him 300 years old.

      So, 50(or more) + 164 (From Ursula to DC) + 30 (1DC and 2DC) + ???? (between becoming Dark One and Ursula) = 244 and higher

      Hopefully, that makes sense! This time the writers aren't incompetent with numbers!

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    • About 1819: Note that Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz are not quoted as saying so; this is just something that is stated by the journalist, in the article. Also, Hook and Baelfire traveled to Neverland sometime after Big Ben was completed, and Big Ben was completed in 1859, meaning that "Poor Unfortunate Souls", which takes place nearly a century after Hook went to Neverland, cannot take place any earlier than circa 1958. Sorry, but the year 1819 is wrong, pure and simple.

      About Rumple and Hook's age: Emma never actually says that Hook is 300 years old, she just asks, "What are you, like 300?".

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    • I can take that, sure.

      http://www.tvguide.com/news/once-upon-a-time-kristin-bauer-unforgiven/

      Words from the horse's mouth. Hook is about 385. Might be joking, but even if he meant 285, then Rumple would still be 300. Who knows!

      Robert Carlyle said he was like 300, which is where it originated.

      http://www.ew.com/article/2012/10/17/robert-carlyle-rumpelstiltskin

      I know about the whole Big Ben thing which is why they should have made it a separate world, but what can you do. I don't think they know for sure.

      Neal also said he was a couple hundred as did Hook. Bae may have been there around 1859, but he would hardly be 200s then. Hook also says that. Rumple then is at least years older than them.

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    • Eskaver, you are free to believe what you want, of course. But the policy here, on the wiki, is that whenever the show creators or cast members say something that is contradicted by the show, then we go with what the show says. Pure and simple. The show itself is the number one canon here, and trumps anything else.

      Also, please remember that the show creators have been wrong before. For example: They have stated that Emma's birthday is October 23., but the show itself states that it is October 22. (see Emma's page for more details). They have also stated that the events of season 3B take place in the early part of the year 2013, but this is contradicted in "Darkness on the Edge of Town" (read the article for more details), where Mother Superior's missing person form places these events at the end of 2013.

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    • I concede. Carry on.

      I'll find something hopefully, but all they say on the show is centuries. So, 200 to 300, I'll wager. I do take show canon above the rest, but Rumple's age being 300 seems to make sense...until the whole Big Ben issue.

      Continue the discussion ;D

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    • We're currently in early July 2013 on the show. I posted a Timeline some months ago on Tumblr and asked Adam about it, with him replying that without checking their official timeline in the office, seemed pretty accurate.

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    • No, we're not. Sorry, but that's not what the show says. According to Mother Superior's missing person form, she was reported missing on November 12., and the current events take place a few months later. As I said: The policy on the wiki, is that whenever the show creators or cast members say something that is contradicted by the show, then we go with what the show says. The show itself is the number one canon, and trumps anything else.

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    • Nightlily wrote:
      No, we're not. Sorry, but that's not what the show says. According to Mother Superior's missing person form, she was reported missing on November 12., and the current events take place a few months later. As I said: The policy on the wiki, is that whenever the show creators or cast members say something that is contradicted by the show, then we go with what the show says. The show itself is the number one canon, and trumps anything else.

      You mean the set dressing that was never supposed to be focused on? LOL Well then why does Heart Of Gold, which takes place just a week later at most, say Rumple is in the hospital on Christmas on his heart monitor? I personally don't put any stock in set dressing (like Regina calling her apples Honeycrisps, when they're actually Red Delicious), and will definitely take Adam's word over props that we weren't meant to focus on.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Nightlily wrote:
      No, we're not. Sorry, but that's not what the show says. According to Mother Superior's missing person form, she was reported missing on November 12., and the current events take place a few months later. As I said: The policy on the wiki, is that whenever the show creators or cast members say something that is contradicted by the show, then we go with what the show says. The show itself is the number one canon, and trumps anything else.
      You mean the set dressing that was never supposed to be focused on? LOL Well then why does Heart Of Gold, which takes place just a week later at most, say Rumple is in the hospital on Christmas on his heart monitor? I personally don't put any stock in set dressing (like Regina calling her apples Honeycrisps, when they're actually Red Delicious), and will definitely take Adam's word over props that we weren't meant to focus on.

      But the policies......

      I guess Rumple did a whole lot of walking to New York until he discovered he could just catch a bus XD Unless he made it to Neal's apartment a week before leaving with Cruella and Ursula.....I have no clue. And no celebration of Christmas!!! I'll have to give that some hard thinking. I usually put stock in Adam and Eddy and the writers because they write the show, because otherwise, the show contradict itself. I mean Robn says he met Rumple once, when he didn't. Hook has amnesia and thinks Emma told him about something when he was in the actual scene when it happened. Robin also didn't "know" the Wicked Witch. And the classic, you can't love without a heart......until you actually can. Imagine my face when watching emotionless Cora and emotionless Will in Wonderland alongside Regina loving without her heart during the same week.

      I guess when the show contradicts itself....we follow the writers, I guess.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: You mean the set dressing that was never supposed to be focused on? LOL Well then why does Heart Of Gold, which takes place just a week later at most, say Rumple is in the hospital on Christmas on his heart monitor? I personally don't put any stock in set dressing (like Regina calling her apples Honeycrisps, when they're actually Red Delicious), and will definitely take Adam's word over props that we weren't meant to focus on.

      Actually, the form is seen in close-up, so we are clearly meant to focus on it. As for "Heart of Gold", we can assume that Gold and Robin Hood arrived in New York City a few weeks after they left - Gold does, after all, meet up with Ursula six weeks after he was banished, as seen in "Heroes and Villains".

      Sunrose, you are free to believe whatever you want. But we will not add to the timeline that the story takes place in July 2013, just because Adam said so. The show clearly says something else. On this wiki, the show is the number one canon. When the writers or cast members say something that is contradicted by the show, we go with what the show says. The show trumps anything else. What you believe, is your business, but the wiki does not take Adam's word over the show. Period.

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    • I don't see why some people (not just here, mostly elsewhere) always point at them not celebrating Christmas as some big deal. Just because we don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Like, "it can't be that far into winter, we haven't seen Christmas!"

      I mean, yeah, it'd help with timing, but so much of this show is fluid and not set in stone.

      Besides, I hate hokey holiday episodes.

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    • Nightlily wrote:

      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: You mean the set dressing that was never supposed to be focused on? LOL Well then why does Heart Of Gold, which takes place just a week later at most, say Rumple is in the hospital on Christmas on his heart monitor? I personally don't put any stock in set dressing (like Regina calling her apples Honeycrisps, when they're actually Red Delicious), and will definitely take Adam's word over props that we weren't meant to focus on.

      Actually, the form is seen in close-up, so we are clearly meant to focus on it. As for "Heart of Gold", we can assume that Gold and Robin Hood arrived in New York City a few weeks after they left - Gold does, after all, meet up with Ursula six weeks after he was banished, as seen in "Heroes and Villains".

      Sunrose, you are free to believe whatever you want. But we will not add to the timeline that the story takes place in July 2013, just because Adam said so. The show clearly says something else. On this wiki, the show is the number one canon. When the writers or cast members say something that is contradicted by the show, we go with what the show says. The show trumps anything else. What you believe, is your business, but the wiki does not take Adam's word over the show. Period.

      Never said the WIKI had to, I was just answering that user's question, not demanding the timeline be changed. So where did I say in this thread that the forum had to change their views? All I did was answer the question that was posted by the user, only to be contradicted by yourself because it's against the wiki policy... Yet I never brought it up.

      In any case, I will stick with my timeline and you can stick to yours, there's no problem whatsoever.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Never said the WIKI had to, I was just answering that user's question, not demanding the timeline be changed. So where did I say in this thread that the forum had to change their views? All I did was answer the question that was posted by the user, only to be contradicted by yourself because it's against the wiki policy... Yet I never brought it up.

      In any case, I will stick with my timeline and you can stick to yours, there's no problem whatsoever.

      Good point. I'm sorry if I sounded overly harsh.

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    • Nightlily wrote:

      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Never said the WIKI had to, I was just answering that user's question, not demanding the timeline be changed. So where did I say in this thread that the forum had to change their views? All I did was answer the question that was posted by the user, only to be contradicted by yourself because it's against the wiki policy... Yet I never brought it up.

      In any case, I will stick with my timeline and you can stick to yours, there's no problem whatsoever.

      Good point. I'm sorry if I sounded overly harsh.

      No problem, I know the subject of "do we follow the show or do we follow the writers' answers on Twitter, or the interviews, etc." is kinda touchy here sometimes.

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    • It seems like every episode in 4B only takes about a day. I don't see how it could possibly be 3 weeks from Darkness at the Edge of Town to Heart of Gold.

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    • Begfhn wrote:
      It seems like every episode in 4B only takes about a day. I don't see how it could possibly be 3 weeks from Darkness at the Edge of Town to Heart of Gold.

      Yeah, that is very confusing. I'll have to do a rewatch when I get season 4.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Begfhn wrote:
      It seems like every episode in 4B only takes about a day. I don't see how it could possibly be 3 weeks from Darkness at the Edge of Town to Heart of Gold.
      Yeah, that is very confusing. I'll have to do a rewatch when I get season 4.

      See, I called it poor planning, but Rumple said to Ursula and Cruella to keep up appearances and make allies. Since we never saw it onscreen, I guess that's what they did for those at least two of those three weeks......offscreen is where lots of things happen. It sometimes makes it looked more like dropped plot lines whenthey do that.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Begfhn wrote:
      It seems like every episode in 4B only takes about a day. I don't see how it could possibly be 3 weeks from Darkness at the Edge of Town to Heart of Gold.
      Yeah, that is very confusing. I'll have to do a rewatch when I get season 4.
      See, I called it poor planning, but Rumple said to Ursula and Cruella to keep up appearances and make allies. Since we never saw it onscreen, I guess that's what they did for those at least two of those three weeks......offscreen is where lots of things happen. It sometimes makes it looked more like dropped plot lines whenthey do that.

      Probably.

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    • I think some time passes between the end of Heroes and Villains and the beginning of Darkness at the Edge of Town.

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    • That's the issue. It can be hard to gauge the passage of time when it's not explicitly stated in the show, and time doesn't always move forward at the same pace between episodes.

      It can be easy to miss the verbal clues too.

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    • Update on what I've learned from reading the wiki:

      In 5X01 Henry says his mother always uses his birthday as a password and in another episode Regina uses the password 815. This would imply Henry was born August 15, which seems unlikely but not impossible. Emma and Neal met in 2001. Even if they met on January first and conceived Henry that day, he would have been born after 32 weeks, 8 weeks early. Since this doesn't totally contradict any earlier information, I'll go with it.


      In "Heart of Gold" Rumple's monitor reads December 25, 2014. This is definitely wrong because it should be 2014. December 25 is also 7 weeks after November 6 and the timegap in season 4 is only 6 weeks. The show does this a lot. This is not a reliable way of keeping track of dates. Let's assume the November 6 thing is still correct, since it doesn't contradict anything. It would be mid January at the end of season 4 (late Feb- Early March after 5X01)


      In Second Star to the Right the Big Ben can be heard, which was not built until 1859. Since it has been confirmed that the England Baelfire is in is the real England, Bae could not have been born earlier than 1845. This makes him at most 167 in 2012. That would round to 200, which is how old he claims to be in 2X05. This means Rumpel could have just turned 200 before the breaking of the curse, but cannot be any older. I am going to assume Second Star to the Right takes place in 1859 or within the next few years because that follows the best continuity.

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    • The last episode might have given us some important information that can help us determine what year (and possibly month) certain past events occured.  In 5X04 the past events where Guenevere and Lancelot find the DO's dagger took place 5 years ago. This is not including the time of the curse which lasted 28 years AND 4 MONTHS (which most people don't take into account). Based on the placemet of Lacey, I thought it should be closer to six years, but there are ways to work around it.

      In Lacey, Roland was not yet born. The flashbck in 5X04 takes place right before Heroes and Villians. This flashback SUPPOSEDLY takes place right after Lacey.

      Let's assume that 5X04 takes place cocurrently to Roland's birth: In 3A Roland is said to be 4. Robin could be rounding up. 4 years earlier in EF time would be around December 1979. It is currently around February 2014, almost exactly 2 years since the curse was broken. Five years ago would be around October 1980. These two events are 10 months apart. If we split the difference we get May 1980. This means the events of 5X04 took place 5 years and 5 months ago and Roland was 3 years and 7 months in 3X03 (They could have rounded up by 5 months. It is the same amount they round up Henry's age in Season 2).


      Again, this is only under the assumption that 5X04 takesplace cocurrently to Roland's birth. There are many factors I didn't include. Marian appears to be days away from giving birth in Lacey. We don't know that Heroes and Villans takes place right after. It says so on the EF timeline page, but couldn't that have taken place any time when Belle was living with Rumple? Didn't she live with him for almost a year? Is my estimate of the EF timeline correct?

      If anyone has an answer to any of these questions, please share.

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    • Begfhn wrote:
      It is currently around February 2014, almost exactly 2 years since the curse was broken. 

      It's closer to August 2013, not February 2014. Alexandra Herman is 18 months old as of The Snow Queen, which places the current timeline in May 2013 since she was born in November 2011. It's been at least 12 weeks since then (the six week jump between Heroes and Villains and Darkness On The Edge Of Town, and the subsequent six week jump between Operation Mongoose Part 2 and The Dark Swan), which equals three months. That would be August 2013. September 2013 at the latest.

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    • We don't know if they rouded with the timeline themselves. I believe that Roland was born shortly after Belle went to Rumple, which shortly after she freed Robin. BElle was lijely put out after that spring.

      Plus, Robin definitely could have been rounding, or it's just 5 years and some months. Roland was 4 (give or take some months) after Cora, so that was at least a month or so.

      So, I agree with every thing, but I headcanon that it was for months from Winter until Spring, so at most six months.

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    • You both have some good points. I based my timing off of the fact that Mother Superior went missing on Nov 6, but there's no proof in that. Every other time they show a date on screen, it has been wrong. I'm also not sure about the 18 month thing because it wasn't mentioned on the show. For now, I'll go with that. That was only a few days before the 4A finale. Then there's a 6 week gap. 4B is at least 3 weeks. This is not a prediction. Words that appear across the screen take priority over anything else. The last episode took place during the 6 weeks in Camelot. So let's say its August. This actually makes more sense. "Quite A Common Fairy" took place around April 2012. If it is only 1 year and 4 months later, it is likely that Roland is only 5. Assuming Robin was not rounding up, Roland was born no later than December 1979. 5 years ago in EF time (33 years 4 months) would be April 1980. There could be a 4 month gap between these two events, or they could take place closer together with little rounding.

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    • In this weeks episode Hery says he's 13. that is way off. According to our estimate, Henry should have just turned 12. This would make a little more sense if it was March 2014, following the continuity of Mother Superior going missing on Nov 6. This would mean Henry is rounding up 5 months.

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    • Begfhn wrote:
      In this weeks episode Hery says he's 13. that is way off. According to our estimate, Henry should have just turned 12. This would make a little more sense if it was March 2014, following the continuity of Mother Superior going missing on Nov 6. This would mean Henry is rounding up 5 months.

      Yeah, but the timeline guy says it's two years after the Curse. So, then yeah, it's 2014.

      The curse was technically not broken in exactly 28 years anyway. 2012 was around the time season 2 happened and Rumple had a dream of Henry's birthday which must have been close (relatively). So, he was probably 11 plus 2 = 13 in 2014.

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    • It depends on when Henry's birthday is, too. I think someone roughly determined that it's early in the year once, so I don't personally find it a stretch to believe he's had 3 birthdays since Emma arrived.

      Besides, it's a TV timeline, it's not going to be easy to set it into stone, there has to be some flexibility, and there were always be parts that don't perfectly match.

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    • Henry was born in 2001, and his birthday's apparently August 15.

      So... Do with that what you will.

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    • August 15 based on....?

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    • Utter solitude wrote:
      August 15 based on....?

      Regina's password.

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    • oh yeah XD

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    • Honestly, the only thing that's really out of place in the Storybrooke timeline is Valentine's Day happening in Skin-Deep. It can't be true because:

      • It's one month between Red-Handed and Child Of The Moon (Granny's arm hurts during full moon - very fast-paced events around Kathryn's disappearance - first full moon since the curse broke).
      • Next thing we know, it's Snow's birthday "in the middle of the coldest winter". Now, the second half of March doesn't qualify as the middle of winter, does it?

      If we assume that Valentine's Day was either a continuity error or… err… the Curse made it up, we still have Snow's birthday in the middle of winter, make it to mid-February / very early March by the end of S3A, then we are back to Storybrooke one year later and we can have all the blizzards we want during S3B.

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    • GothicNarcissus wrote:
      Honestly, the only thing that's really out of place in the Storybrooke timeline is Valentine's Day happening in Skin-Deep. It can't be true because:
      • It's one month between Red-Handed and Child Of The Moon (Granny's arm hurts during full moon - very fast-paced events around Kathryn's disappearance - first full moon since the curse broke).
      • Next thing we know, it's Snow's birthday "in the middle of the coldest winter". Now, the second half of March doesn't qualify as the middle of winter, does it?

      If we assume that Valentine's Day was either a continuity error or… err… the Curse made it up, we still have Snow's birthday in the middle of winter, make it to mid-February / very early March by the end of S3A, then we are back to Storybrooke one year later and we can have all the blizzards we want during S3B.

      Kathryn's phone records are from February too. Valentine's Day in Skin Deep is fine.

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    • FrancisPaul wrote:

      GothicNarcissus wrote:
      Honestly, the only thing that's really out of place in the Storybrooke timeline is Valentine's Day happening in Skin-Deep. It can't be true because:
      • It's one month between Red-Handed and Child Of The Moon (Granny's arm hurts during full moon - very fast-paced events around Kathryn's disappearance - first full moon since the curse broke).
      • Next thing we know, it's Snow's birthday "in the middle of the coldest winter". Now, the second half of March doesn't qualify as the middle of winter, does it?

      If we assume that Valentine's Day was either a continuity error or… err… the Curse made it up, we still have Snow's birthday in the middle of winter, make it to mid-February / very early March by the end of S3A, then we are back to Storybrooke one year later and we can have all the blizzards we want during S3B.

      Kathryn's phone records are from February too. Valentine's Day in Skin Deep is fine.

      Also it could be that Snow was born in the Southern Hemisphere of FTL. Then she would've been born in July (the coldest month in the Southern Hemisphere). I don't know if that fixes any timeline issues.

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    • Eddiefunny wrote:

      FrancisPaul wrote:

      GothicNarcissus wrote:
      Honestly, the only thing that's really out of place in the Storybrooke timeline is Valentine's Day happening in Skin-Deep. It can't be true because:
      • It's one month between Red-Handed and Child Of The Moon (Granny's arm hurts during full moon - very fast-paced events around Kathryn's disappearance - first full moon since the curse broke).
      • Next thing we know, it's Snow's birthday "in the middle of the coldest winter". Now, the second half of March doesn't qualify as the middle of winter, does it?

      If we assume that Valentine's Day was either a continuity error or… err… the Curse made it up, we still have Snow's birthday in the middle of winter, make it to mid-February / very early March by the end of S3A, then we are back to Storybrooke one year later and we can have all the blizzards we want during S3B.

      Kathryn's phone records are from February too. Valentine's Day in Skin Deep is fine.

      Also it could be that Snow was born in the Southern Hemisphere of FTL. Then she would've been born in July (the coldest month in the Southern Hemisphere). I don't know if that fixes any timeline issues.

      Or there seasons are different, as you said. It could probably snow 6 out of the 12 months for all we know!

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    • GothicNarcissus wrote:

      • It's one month between Red-Handed and Child Of The Moon (Granny's arm hurts during full moon - very fast-paced events around Kathryn's disappearance - first full moon since the curse broke).

      Actually, no. It's maximum one month between Broken and "Child of the Moon" (since it is the first full moon since the curse broke), but there are at least two months between "Red-Handed" and "Child of the Moon" (because Charming says, "A few months ago, everyone thought Mary Margaret was guilty of murder.").

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    • I think we can all agree that the storybrooke events of this arc took at most three weeks. It should be around late March 2014. There were no continuiy errors in he past few episodes, in relation to time. Although, I am confused about the timing of the Mulan flashback.

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    • Many agree that all the events leading up to the completion of Season 4's Operation Mongoose takes place in mid-January 2014. Afterwards, the time jump of six weeks of the Camelot quest, I approximated and double-checked that the present-day Storybrooke events of Season 5A take place over a period of 4 days (no longer than a week, which seems very quick!).

      "The Dark Swan" to "The Price" = 1 day [Emma even tells Henry that "yesterday" or during the events of "The Dark Swan", everyone failed her except him]. 

      "The Price" to "Siege Perilous" = 1 day (approx.) [in "The Price", Emma wants to remove Excalibur from the stone, and so in "Siege Perilous", she plans to cut through the stone with Happy's axe].

      "Siege Perilous" to "The Broken Kingdom" = same day [Emma kidnaps Gold at the end of "Siege Perilous" and keeps him there till "The Broken Kingdom" and it is still daylight, indicating a continuation from the previous episode].

      "The Broken Kingdom" to "Dreamcatcher" = same day (approx.) [Emma still has Gold captive and tasks Merida to make him a hero, and it is still daylight, indicating a continuation from the previous episode].

      "Dreamcatcher" to "The Bear and the Bow" = 1 day [Regina even mentions that Emma accidentally revealed some information to her "yesterday" or during the events of "Dreamcatcher"].

      "The Bear and the Bow", "Nimue" & "Birth" all occur on the same day [1. David, Mary Margaret, Regina, and Belle are all wearing the same clothes throughout the episodes in present-day Storybrooke, however they don't appear in "Nimue". Plus, Emma restores Excalibur probably right after Gold pulls it out of its stone in "Nimue" and later confronts Arthur with the restored blade in "Birth"].

      "Birth" to "Broken Heart" = 1 day [the night scene continues after Birth, however the next scenes are focused on the day after and the subsequent night].

      "Broken Heart" to "Swan Song" = same day [Hook invites Nimue to Storybrooke and the events of the Dark Ones' siege and Hook's sacrifice in Storybrooke continue over the same night]. 

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    • After doing a little research, I think I have a better understanding of the timeline of present day events:

      Emma arrives in Storybrooke on October 22, 2013. She decides to stay on October 23. She is arrested and released on October 24. Mary Margaret goes on a date with Dr. Whale on October 25. David wakes up on October 26. David reunites with Catherine on October 27. Ashley has her baby on Novemeber 5. The mines collapse on November 7. Archie saves Henry's life on November 8. David comes home on November 14 (In 1X05 he says he can go home in a week). Graham kisses Emma on November 15. Graham dies on November 16. Emma becomes sheriff on December 1. She meets Nick and Ava on Decmeber 2 and finds their father on December 3. Mary Margaret sneeks out to see David on December 9. They save a bird on December 10. They kiss on December 11. Henry burries his book on December 17. It goes missing on Decmber 18 (almost 3 weeks after Emma becomes sheriff). Emma tries to expose Regina in front of everyone on December 19. There is a gap of 2 months until the events of Skin Deep on February 14. David breaks up with Catherine on March 4. She goes missing on March 5. Minors Days in on March 6. Ruby finds a heart on March 7, 2012 (the night of a full moon in Maine). Mary Margaret is arrested and escapes on March 8. She returns to prison on March 9. Catherine is found on March 10. Mary Margaret is welcomed home on March 11. She foes back to teaching on March 12. Henry is poisoned on March 13. The curse is broken on March 14 at 8:15 am. The same day, Emma and Mary Margaret are sent to the EF. On March 15, Regina lets David take Henry. Emma meets Cora on March 21 (1 week after she breaks the curse). The events of 2X04 and 2X05 happen within the next 2 weeks. Emma climbs the beanstalk and Ruby worries about becoming a wolf on April 6 (the next full moon). Aurora talks to Henry on April 7. The Charmings are reunited on April 8. Archie's fake murder happens on April 9. Emma investigates on April 10. Archie's funeral is on April 11. The same night Belle is shot over the town line. Mr. Gold claims Emma's favor to hime on April 12. They leave for New York on April 13. They find Bae on April 14. They return and Snow kills Cora on April 15 (which corresponds to Winter in the EF).  Regina wants revenge on April 16. She shows Snow her heart on April 17. Snow finds August on April 24 (one week later). Emma finds out about the magic beans on April 27. Regina is kidnapped on April 28. Neal is sent through a portal on April 29. Henry is taken to NL on April 30. John and Michael arrive in Storybrooke on May 5 (5 days later). The gang returns from NL on May 7. Pan's curse is discovered on May 8. Pan's curse is enacted on May 9.



      On October 4, 2013 (a little more than a year later) Emma returns to Storybrooke. She tries to track down the wicked witch on October 5. David's sword is srolen on October 6. Emma finds Neal on October 7. Neal's funral is on October 8. Regina fights Zelena on October 9. Hook helps "Ariel" on October 10. Snow communicates with Cora on October 11. The curse is broken and Baby Neal is born on October 12. Emma and Hook go back in time on October 13. Storybrooke is frozen on October 14. Emma meets Elsa on October 15. Ingrid freezes Marian on October 16. Hook and Emma go on a date on October 17. Ingrid releases Sydney from the mirror on Ocober 18. Emma searches for her connection to the Snow Queen on October 19. Emma looses control of her powers on November 4. She visits Mr. Gold on November 5. Gold traps the fairies and Ingid casts the spell of shattered sight on November 6. On November 7, Gold is banished from Storybrooke. He returns with Queens of Darkness on December 19 (six weeks later). They bring back Maleficent on December 21. Pinochhio is transformed into August on January 7. Hook helps Ursula on January 8. The author is released on January 9, 2014. The same day Regina discovers Zelena is with Robin. (9 weeks after Heroes and Villains). Emma kills Cruella on January 10. Emma reunites Lilly with her mother on January 11. Emma becomes the DO on January 12. She wakes up in the EF on January 13. She is reunited with her family on January 14. On February 23, Hook becomes the DO. Hook casts the dark curse on February 24. The gang wakes up in Storybrooke on February 25 (6 weeks after they arrive in Camelot). Emma tries to pull Excalinbur out of the stone on Februart 26. Emma recruits Gold on February 27. Emma attempts to make Gold a hero on February 28. Gold saves Belle from Merida on March 1. Zelena gives birth on March 16 (3 weeks after Hook becomes the DO). Emma turns to her family for help on March 17. Hook attempts to kill Rumpelstiltskin on March 18. Hook sacrifices himself on March 19. They are in the UW for about three weeks, so it is approximately April 9, 2014.

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    • I am going to try to do the same with past events. This is going to be harder and less exact. I cannot give exact dates unless they are hinted somewhere:

      Merlin drinks from the grail in 1014. Nimue becomes the dark one in 1514. Rumple is born in 1809. Rumple's father abandons him in 1819. Killian is born in 1828. Killian's father abandons him in 1836. Rumple leaves for the ogre war in the summer of 1844. He returns shortly after his son is born on March 23, 1845 (Neal's birthday according to his wanted poster). Killian and Liam join the navy in 1846. Liam dies in 1849. Hook meets milah and they run away together in 1851. Rumpel becomes the DO on March 23, 1859 (Bae's 14th birthday). Bae is separated from Rumpel in September 1859. Some time within the next 6 months, Rumpel kills Milah. Bae moves in with the Darlings in March 1860. A few weeks later he is taken to Neverland. Rumpel's second visit with the Seer takes place shortly after he kills Milah and a long time before he meets Cora. Jiminy and his parents steal from a puppet show in 1898. Jiminy becomes a cricket in 1923. Jonathan proposes to Cora in July 1944. Zelena is born on April 15, 1945 (her birthday according to Hades). Cora marries Henry some time before May 1947.  Regina is born in February 1948 (regina's birthday according to Souls of the Departed).  Snow White is born on April 15, 1956 (approximate date of 2X15). Ingrid and her sisters visit Rumpelstiltskin in 1955. Hook meets Ursula before 1959 (He has been trying to kill Rumpelstiltskin for nearly a centrury). Young Arthur tells Guenavere about Merlin's prophecy around 1960. Around the same time, young Regina and Zelena  Snow's mother dies on April 15, 1964. Regina meets Snow and marries Leopold in late 1966. In December 1966, Isaac becomes the author. Isacc meets Cruella some time after this, but before she meets Maleficent and Ursula. The events of It's Not Easy Being Green, Kansas, The Doctor, In the Name of the Brother, and Quite a Common Fairy happen within a year of Regina getting married. Snow meets Hercules in 1970. Elsa's parents die in 1974. The events of Frozen take place in 1977. Arthur becomes king around 1978. Regina meets Maleficent in early 1979. Shortly after, she kills Leopold, banishes Snow, and Snow meets Red. Rumepl acquires the dark curse shortly after Regina meets Maleficent, but before he meets Belle. Rumpel sends Robin Hood after Zelena at least 6 months before he runs into him again. Belle meets Gaston during the summer of 1979. Around September, Anna searches for the truth about her parents. She returns in October and the snow queen freezes Arendel. Belle moves in with Rumpelstiltskin in November. Exactly 13 years after Daniel's death Regina's mother return. Robin steals Rumpel's wand in December. Shortly after, Regina disquises herself to find Snow. In January 1980, Jack and James kill a family of giants. In February, James dies and David replaces him. Within the next few days, Rumpel kills Cinderella's fairy god mother, Regina kills Marian, and Snow and Charming meet. Lancelot and Guenavere search for the dagger in March 1980. Shortly after, Rumpel returns from Camelot and Belle gets kidnapped. Rumpel celebrates Bae's birthday onMarch 23. Within the next few days, he bans Belle from his castle. In April 1980, Grumpy meets Nova and Belle meets Mulan. A few days later, Regina deceives Ariel. In May 1980, Snow tries to break up Charming's wedding and Regina sends Hansel and Gretel after the blind witch. In June, Charming finds Snow, gets kidnapped, Snow is forced to eat a poison apple, Charming saves her, and they vow to take back the kingdom. At some point during the battle they meet Lancelot. In February 1981 or 1982 Regina unhappily celebrates her birthday and Cora takes Henry to Wonderland. Shortly after, Regina traps Jefferson in Wonderland. Snow and Charming have successfully taken back the kingdom and get married in January 1983. In February they return from their honeymoon and Snow learns she's pregnant. Shortly after, Cinderella gets married and learns that she's pregnant.  At some point before August, Snow and Charming kidnap Lily and send her to our world. At around the same time, Pinocchio becomes a real boy. In September, Rumpel is locked up. The rest of the events leading to the curse happens fast and the curse takes place on October 22. Zelena meets Hades right before or after the first curse. Merida meets Mulan right before the first curse. (It doesn't make sense fo them to meet during season 2 because Mulan is with Aurora the entire time. It is slightly over 2 years in EF time between the past and present events of The Bear King. On October 23, Kurt and Owen find themselves in Storybrooke. Bae escapes from Neverland in early 1992. Neal and Emma meet and Emma becomes pregnant in January 2001. They move to Tallahasse and Emma is arrested in February. By, April she knows that she's pregnant. Henry is born on August 15, 2001. On September 5 he is adopted. On October 1, 2011 Mary Margaret gives Henry the book.

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    • There is a lot of new information and inconsistency regarding the timeline this season. As usual, I will try to make sense of it. I am going to ignore past events for now because it may be confusing and may find out more in the next few episodes. As for where we are in the present:

      Last season was assumed to have ended around April. However, Snow went back to teahcing this season, so it is probably not the end of the school year. Maybe I misinterpreted the timeline and it is actually September. Hery is now in high school, but should only be in seventh grade. Maybe middle school and high school are combined. Belle just finished her first trimester of pregnancy. That means its been 3 months (plus however long Belle was in Pandora's box) since Swan Song. I assumed the UW arc only lasted  around 3 weeks, but I could be wrong. Belle was already experiencing morning sickness, so it was probably longer. I don't believe 2 months could have already passed this season.

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    • Well, I do feel like there was a time jump (be it a small one) between two episodes. I can't remember which ones. Because Hook moved in and Snow started to work. And I'm sure that does happen over night. Maybe a few days or so.

      Actually there might be tiny little jumps between a couple of episodes this season. I'm gonna have go back and look.

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    • Eddiefunny wrote:
      Well, I do feel like there was a time jump (be it a small one) between two episodes. I can't remember which ones. Because Hook moved in and Snow started to work. And I'm sure that does happen over night. Maybe a few days or so.

      Actually there might be tiny little jumps between a couple of episodes this season. I'm gonna have go back and look.

      Snow also made it sound like she hasn't taught in a while, but she was seen teaching in 4X13, which should have only been a few months ago. It is probably the beginning of the next school year.

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    • Okay. I'm going to try and reinterpret the past and present timeline based on the new information we have.

      In the past:

      Belle moves in with Rumpelstilskin in October 1980. That same month Roland is born. Lance and Guen find the dagger in March 1981. Immediately after, Belle is kidnapped by the queens of darkness. Rumpel starts to develop feelings for Belle and visits Dr. Jeckel.  Belle is banished in April 1981. Lancelot marries Snow and Charming in June 1982. Snow and Charming successfully take back the kingdom in late 1982. Later that year they are almost killed by the Count of Monte Cristo and they attend Cinderella's ball. In January 1983, Snow and Charming get married again and Regina announces the curse. Within the next month Snow and Charming go on their honeymoon, meet the queens of darkness, and attend Cinderella's wedding. Within the 9 months before the curse Regina hires Hook to kill Cora, Hook kills his father, Liam meets Captain Nemo and they go to an underwater realm without magic, Hook meets Cora, Cora fakes her death, and Cora creates a forcefeild protecting her and Hook from the curse. 28 years later Emma arrives in SB and time unfreezes. Hook goes with his crew, not including Smee who is in SB, to find another way to kill Rumple. He then faces off with his brother who is around 40. He later meets Mulan a few days before Emma's arrival. At some point while Aurora is trying to bring Phillip back, Mulan takes a break and trains Merida.

      In the present:

      Let's say the second curse took place in October 2013, almost a year and a half after Pan's curse. Season 3b and 4 could have taken 2 months, ignoring the blue fairy's missing poster. Adding another 10 weeks till the end of 4 puts us in late February to early March. They were in Camelot for 6 weeks until April. Emma's curse lasted about 3 weeks, bringing us to May. This is when Belle got pregnant. Let's say the UW arc took 6 weeks becuase Belle was experiencing morning sickness. When Emma mentions her parents' anniversary to James she is referring to their first wedding. Belle was under the sleeping curse for about a week. Season 6 starts in July and it is currently September. That would make sense in relation to Belle's pregnancy and Snow's teaching.

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    • In last night's episode, in the alternate universe, Emma celebrated her birthday. Does that mean it is her birthday in the real world? The wish didn't change time. If so, it actually fits in very well with the timeline. Last night was Emma's 31st birthday, making it October 23, 2014, exactly 3 years after the start of the show. This would be two months into the school year, fitting in perfectly with Snow going back to teaching.

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    • Lol, I'm pretty sure it means nothing. The entire wish realm is fabricated in its history. Nothing says that it is her birthday in the present because she never mentions it and noone does at all. It was clear that it was just a nod to the pilot (like everything else was).

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    • Whether or not it was really Emma's birthday, I'm going to estimate it to be around October 2014. As for the flashbacks of the seaon, since it is the midpoint of the season, I'm going to try to place them in order. The Agraba flashbacks from 6X01 and 6X05 do not correspond to any other events on the timeline. I'm not even sure the Agrabah from OUATIW is the same realm since there is no continuity in the stories. That being said, I can only assume these flashbacks happened shortly before the curse, based on the characters' ages. The 6X02 flashback took place some time after Snow and Charming took back the kingdom and before they got married. 6X03 took place after Snow and Charming took back the kingdom and I would assume it was before they got married. This slightly changes the timeline placement of 2X10 and 1X04. 6X04 and 6X08 both took place when Belle was Rumpel's servant. 6X06 took place some time during season 1, slightly altering the placement of 2X09 and 5X11. I think it was agreed that 6X07 took place after David defeated Bo Peep and before "The Evil Queen". That is still a pretty wide time range, but I don't have enough information to be any more specific.

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    • I only said that for sure was the fact that Henry's knighting ceremony was heavily implied to be the next day although I don't think we notice any change in time. But I would guess it is indeed fall given the start to school (although they had pumpkin stuff last season for whatever reason.)

      On the other notes, Agrabah is the same realm, just a different province. I would agree that it was right before the curse, but we also know that Jafar didn't seemingly go to Wonderland that long before either. (I think the curse froze time when Alice in the asylum).

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    • GothicNarcissus wrote:
      Honestly, the only thing that's really out of place in the Storybrooke timeline is Valentine's Day happening in Skin-Deep. It can't be true because:
      • It's one month between Red-Handed and Child Of The Moon (Granny's arm hurts during full moon - very fast-paced events around Kathryn's disappearance - first full moon since the curse broke).
      • Next thing we know, it's Snow's birthday "in the middle of the coldest winter". Now, the second half of March doesn't qualify as the middle of winter, does it?

      If we assume that Valentine's Day was either a continuity error or… err… the Curse made it up, we still have Snow's birthday in the middle of winter, make it to mid-February / very early March by the end of S3A, then we are back to Storybrooke one year later and we can have all the blizzards we want during S3B.

      Winter traditionally ends in March, but in 2012 winter extended into early May (at least in New England, which is where the show takes place), so middle of the coldest winter is still fine. Especially if in FTL, she lives closer to the north, which would make the winter last a bit longer.

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    • I'm not sure exactly where we are in the present timeline. I assume it's been no more than a week since Emma went to the wish realm. As for the recent flashbacks:

      6X12 takes place when David is 6, around 1962. This also confirms that Pinocchio is around the same age or older than David.

      6X13 takes place right after 1X08.

      I believe 6X14 takes place right before 1X21.

      6X15 probably takes place almost immediately after 3X06.

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    • I'd like to ask: how much time season 5B takes?

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    • I estimated it to be 6 weeks.

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    • Apparently I was very off about the tieline. It is at least February 2015, since Isaac wants tickes to Hamilton.

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    • Begfhn wrote:
      Apparently I was very off about the tieline. It is at least February 2015, since Isaac wants tickes to Hamilton.

      OMG, but then baby Neal should be around 2 years, more or less. And baby Robin should be around the year.

      Adam said in Twitter: For the record, in the #OnceUponATime universe #Hamilton hit Broadway about 18 months earlier than in our universe.

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    • If I try some wiggle room logic and go backwards then...

      January 2014- Hamilton debuts or is about to. 6x16

      Late November 2013- Fall Formal in Storybrooke. 6x08...also Frozen debuts in LWM!

      Early Nov 2013- 6x01: Christmas decor goes up, as is typical of post-Halloween AMerica.

      June/July (Camelot Quest) to September 2013- 5A, Camelot Quest and there were pumpkins in 5x05. Plus, Chambliss said that we were only 2 years beyond the curse in present day 5x04, which just so happens to be so close. XD

      April to June 2013- Season 4, 4A is said to be before Frozen debuted.

      ???? to April 2013- season 3B

      ???? to ??? 2013: is the missing year. 

      Feb 2012 to ??? 2012: Season 2 and 3A. Snow's birthday is very likely in March. 

      Oct 2011 to Feb 2012: Season 1, National Miners' Day is in December, yet SB's in February.

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    • How could be in December if "Skin Deep", that's before "Dreamy", takes place in February?

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    • Hera Pan wrote:
      How could be in December if "Skin Deep", that's before "Dreamy", takes place in February?

      Then just ignore the Miner's day stuff. I was just saying that National Miner's day is in December. It would have been cool if they tied that together, but I'm guessing Miner's day in SB is the town's own version. I'll edit it for clarification.

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    • Begfhn wrote:
      Apparently I was very off about the tieline. It is at least February 2015, since Isaac wants tickes to Hamilton.

      I would not hold much by the Hamilton reference. Since, OUaT made a similar mistake with Lily loving Harry Potter.... which was not yet popular in the States.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Begfhn wrote:
      Apparently I was very off about the tieline. It is at least February 2015, since Isaac wants tickes to Hamilton.
      I would not hold much by the Hamilton reference. Since, OUaT made a similar mistake with Lily loving Harry Potter.... which was not yet popular in the States.

      Well, perhaps HP became popular in US 18 mos earlier...

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      Well, perhaps HP became popular in US 18 mos earlier...

      It would have only just been published in the U.K. at that time. Scholastic only obtained the publishing rights, when Lily namedropped the series. Harry Potter did not gain real traction, until WB announced they were making the movie.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Eskaver wrote:

      Well, perhaps HP became popular in US 18 mos earlier...

      It would have only just been published in the U.K. at that time. Scholastic only obtained the publishing rights, when Lily namedropped the series. Harry Potter did not gain real traction, until WB announced they were making the movie.

      Lol, I was joking. In a way saying that it's a discontinuity unless HP isn't the same in LWM as our universe.

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    • Hera Pan wrote:

      Adam said in Twitter: For the record, in the #OnceUponATime universe #Hamilton hit Broadway about 18 months earlier than in our universe.

      REALLY? Can't believe he couldn't admit they made a mistake

      So, the land without magic IS NOT our world. But an anternate version of our world. That is, a different realm

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    • 8Rob wrote:

      Hera Pan wrote:

      Adam said in Twitter: For the record, in the #OnceUponATime universe #Hamilton hit Broadway about 18 months earlier than in our universe.

      REALLY? Can't believe he couldn't admit they made a mistake

      So, the land without magic IS NOT our world. But an anternate version of our world. That is, a different realm

      The LWM was never our world, unless you thought Walt Disney was a magic-wielding man who wrote true stories that totally he created.

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      8Rob wrote:

      Hera Pan wrote:

      Adam said in Twitter: For the record, in the #OnceUponATime universe #Hamilton hit Broadway about 18 months earlier than in our universe.

      REALLY? Can't believe he couldn't admit they made a mistake

      So, the land without magic IS NOT our world. But an anternate version of our world. That is, a different realm

      The LWM was never our world, unless you thought Walt Disney was a magic-wielding man who wrote true stories that totally he created.

      It was said to be our world

      In the "Magic is Coming" special (a recap of season 1), it was stayed that the land without magic is our world

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    • 8Rob wrote:

      Eskaver wrote:

      8Rob wrote:

      Hera Pan wrote:

      Adam said in Twitter: For the record, in the #OnceUponATime universe #Hamilton hit Broadway about 18 months earlier than in our universe.

      REALLY? Can't believe he couldn't admit they made a mistake

      So, the land without magic IS NOT our world. But an anternate version of our world. That is, a different realm

      The LWM was never our world, unless you thought Walt Disney was a magic-wielding man who wrote true stories that totally he created.

      It was said to be our world

      In the "Magic is Coming" special (a recap of season 1), it was stayed that the land without magic is our world

      There was a lot of proof going that it wasn't. As far as I figured, it was only intended to be be based off of our world and it's events, not much else. At the very least, season 4 really went against that fact. On a technical sense, it can never be our world since it isn't a true story.

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    • 8Rob wrote:

      REALLY? Can't believe he couldn't admit they made a mistake

      Lol.... did you ever expect him to?

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    • They admitted a mistake when it said 200 years ago instead of 500. So this idea that they can't admit mistakes is superfluous and incorrect.

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    • Bae becomes 14 before rumple becomes the dark one. Considering that Big Ben was built in 1859, and that not that much time passes between the Ogre Wars and Bae arrival in London, I'd say that bae is 14 when he arrives in London, and he arrives in London around 1861.

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    • In the season finale, Archie says that Emma has been in a mental hospital for 2 years, since the end of season 1. This would make it early 2014. However, Henry's age is mentioned as 14. This is a contradiction. Henry was only 10 in season 1. It is possible that the black fairy's curse messed with everyone's concept of time. I'm going to assume that this episode gives us no new information about the timeline.

      Also, we got three flashforward involving future Henry and his daughter. Anyone have any idea how they fit into the timeline?

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    • 123456K wrote:
      Bae becomes 14 before rumple becomes the dark one. Considering that Big Ben was built in 1859, and that not that much time passes between the Ogre Wars and Bae arrival in London, I'd say that bae is 14 when he arrives in London, and he arrives in London around 1861.

      Hook explicitly stated this season that he was over 200. That means he would have to have been born before 1914. But this would make Hook in his late 40s when he went to Neverland. I don't know what to do with this contradiction. It is only off by a few years. Hook could be around 185.

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    • Begfhn wrote:
      123456K wrote:
      Bae becomes 14 before rumple becomes the dark one. Considering that Big Ben was built in 1859, and that not that much time passes between the Ogre Wars and Bae arrival in London, I'd say that bae is 14 when he arrives in London, and he arrives in London around 1861.
      Hook explicitly stated this season that he was over 200. That means he would have to have been born before 1914. But this would make Hook in his late 40s when he went to Neverland. I don't know what to do with this contradiction. It is only off by a few years. Hook could be around 185.

      I think Hook was making an approach, but after see that Cora was in her 30s during "The Stable Boy" I won't be surprised if Hook is in his 40s.

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    • Begfhn wrote:

      Also, we got three flashforward involving future Henry and his daughter. Anyone have any idea how they fit into the timeline?

      I really have no idea, could take place before Lucy met Henry in Seattle or even after.

      However, if Henry is 28 then we must be in 2029

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    • Watch them say everything looks like 2017 because is a different realm, where their 2029 is like our 2017

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      They admitted a mistake when it said 200 years ago instead of 500. So this idea that they can't admit mistakes is superfluous and incorrect.

      But that was some just letters on the screen

      I'm talking about admitting a mistake in the plot

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    • Begfhn wrote:
      In the season finale, Archie says that Emma has been in a mental hospital for 2 years, since the end of season 1. This would make it early 2014. However, Henry's age is mentioned as 14. This is a contradiction. Henry was only 10 in season 1. It is possible that the black fairy's curse messed with everyone's concept of time. I'm going to assume that this episode gives us no new information about the timeline.

      Also, we got three flashforward involving future Henry and his daughter. Anyone have any idea how they fit into the timeline?

      S6 finale was probably still 2014 spring. We don't know how many years passed until Adult Henry is found by Lucy (we assume 28, and that interview says that's 10 years older Henry, which would make Lucy younger than she seems and Henry a very precocious dad).

      Anyway, Adult Henry and Lucy's story must take place at least in 2024, but probably even later.

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    • I thought it was already confirmed that Lucy was 10. So it has to be more than 10 years later. I hope Henry's at least 18 when he has her.

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    • Begfhn wrote:
      I thought it was already confirmed that Lucy was 10. So it has to be more than 10 years later. I hope Henry's at least 18 when he has her.

      It said Henry was 10 years older from the Finale. Thus he would about 24-26 years old. Thus he would have been about 14-16 when he got a girl pregnant which is niether impossible or shocking. 

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    • I am betting that Henry is 28 when Lucy finds him. This would fit with Emma being 28 when she returned to Storybrooke, and with Gideon being 28 when he returned from the Dark Realm.  28 seems to be one of those magic numbers for Once (just like Lost had it's share of magic numbers, some of which have been incorporated into Once as well). And I feel that 28 would fit with what we saw of Henry as an adult, and would be in range for having a 10-ish year old daughter.

      So, for argument sake, let's go with Henry being 28.  Current year of the show at s6 finale, by best guess, is 2014, making Henry somewhere between 13 and 14 at the time. Let's say he's 14, which would make the current year for the show next season be 2028 (or roughly 10 years into the future). Until we get some additional markers, this is the head canon that I am going with.

      This would also make Henry 18 when Lucy is born, which would again mirror what happened with Emma. What I will be interested to see is who the Mother of Lucy, and therefore the wife of Henry, is. While I will allow for the possibility of Violet, I really don't think this would fit, and I am betting that we will see a new character for this role. (sorry, got off topic just a bit).

      back on topic, and repeating what I said earlier, my guess is that 14 years pass between s6 finale and s7 premiere, and some of this gap will become fodder for flashbacks in the future.

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    • It's already confirmed the mother is not Violet


      This is like "How I Met Your Mother" - Fairytale edition

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      I am betting that Henry is 28 when Lucy finds him. This would fit with Emma being 28 when she returned to Storybrooke, and with Gideon being 28 when he returned from the Dark Realm.  28 seems to be one of those magic numbers for Once (just like Lost had it's share of magic numbers, some of which have been incorporated into Once as well). And I feel that 28 would fit with what we saw of Henry as an adult, and would be in range for having a 10-ish year old daughter.

      So, for argument sake, let's go with Henry being 28.  Current year of the show at s6 finale, by best guess, is 2014, making Henry somewhere between 13 and 14 at the time. Let's say he's 14, which would make the current year for the show next season be 2028 (or roughly 10 years into the future). Until we get some additional markers, this is the head canon that I am going with.

      This would also make Henry 18 when Lucy is born, which would again mirror what happened with Emma. What I will be interested to see is who the Mother of Lucy, and therefore the wife of Henry, is. While I will allow for the possibility of Violet, I really don't think this would fit, and I am betting that we will see a new character for this role. (sorry, got off topic just a bit).

      back on topic, and repeating what I said earlier, my guess is that 14 years pass between s6 finale and s7 premiere, and some of this gap will become fodder for flashbacks in the future.

      http://ew.com/tv/2017/05/14/once-upon-time-finale-season-7-spoilers-horowitz-kitsis/


      Confirms it is a 10 year older version of Henry. Which would make him about 24-26 years old. We have no idea the little girl age. She could be anywhere between 6 and 10 years old. Thus Henry could have gotten a girl pregnant at 14 or 18 years old.

      There is also the possibility that he adopted her. He meet a girl and fell in love. She had a daughter from a previous relationship and he took her in. 

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    • It was already confirmed in the casting call they were looking for a 10 year old girl. If they were specifically were looking for a 10yo there must be a reason why.

      And if Henry is in his mid-twenties (I hoping he's 28) he literally would have to have met someone straight after the finale and got her pregnant for this age to work. Even though it's not impossible. I find it ridiculous.

      That's why I'm thinking more and more Lucy was adopted if these ages are correct.

      But what I want is that Henry, end of finale, was 13 (2014), he had a daughter at 18. And now in the present he is 28 (2032) with a 10yo daughter. So the jump was 15 years.

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    • Sadly, casting calls mean close to nothing when it comes to ages. They often mistake the timeline

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    • If Henry is 24 years old and Lucy is actually 10 years old, as the casting call said, then that means Henry conceived his daugther shortly after the season 6 finale

      O_ó

      They won't do that of course

      I bet Henry will be 28 years old in season 7.

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    • I'm hearing a lot of rumours that season 7 takes place 10 years in the fuure. Henry would have to have a dayghter within the next year. I find that very hard to believe. I'm going with Henry being 28, making it 2029.

      Henry's age has been inconsisent throughout the show, as has he timeline since the curse. Is it currently 2014 or 2015?

      One thing that's always been unclear is the age of characters at different points in the timeline. Characters look the same at all ages and give no indication of how old they are.

      How old was Snow when the queen first banished her? I always go with early 20s. This means the queen did nothing evil for over 10 years. Every flashback with Snow running from the queen seems too take place within a year of her meeting Charming.

      How old is Hook supposed to be, physically? Even if he is in his early 20s when he meets Milah, that would put him in his mid to late 30s by the time of the curse.

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    • you know, I realize that the article says a "10 year older version of Henry", but the first question I would ask is whether that 10 years is actualy 10 years. when talking off the cuff, it is easy to round numbers to something that is somewhat arbitrary. 10 years could mean anything from 8 years upwards to 12 or even 13 years (or maybe even more).  I know that I have caught myself saying that something was an arbitrary "10 years ago", when in actuality it was more like 12-13 years.  So, I am just going to leave it open until the writers decide to settle the issue. (and keep in mind that there is always the option that the writers never actually specify Henry's age at this point).

      However, Given that Henry is in the 13-14 year old range at the end of season 6, if it is an actual 10 year age difference, then Lucy would have had to have been conceived within a year of the finale, (something that is not impossible, but I would prefer that the show not go that route, as teen pregnancy can be a very touchy subject, and older women having relationships with teenage boys would be even touchier). However, if Henry is 28, then that puts the pregnancy when he is 18, which is still a little sketchy (in my opinion). and that also gives a 3-4 year period for him to journey to the EF (which I am assuming is where he meets the mom).

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      Hera Pan wrote:

      Adam said in Twitter: For the record, in the #OnceUponATime universe #Hamilton hit Broadway about 18 months earlier than in our universe.

      REALLY? Can't believe he couldn't admit they made a mistake

      So, the land without magic IS NOT our world. But an anternate version of our world. That is, a different realm

      It is our world. It is a fictional version of our world, because it is a tv show, just like any other tv show you watch that has our world.

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    • I did it! I put the entire timeline together to the best of my abilities. A lot of it still seems off because the show is bad at consistency. Most of the dates, I just made up. If anything seems really off, please comment.




      Episode

      Event

      Approximate Date

      5X07

      Merlin becomes immortal.

      1014

      5X07

      Nimue becomes the dark one.

      1514

      6X19

      Flashback

      Winter 1810

      3X08

      Flashback

      1820

      Not Shown

      Hook is born.

      1830

      5X11

      Brenan Jones sells his children to Captain Silver.

      1840

      2X14

      Baelfire is born.

      March 23, 1846

      5X15

      Flashback

      1848

      3X05

      Flashback

      1851

      5X14

      Flashback

      1852

      2X04

      Milah runs off with Hook.

      1852

      1X08

      Flashback

      March 20-23, 1860

      6X13

      Flashback

      March 23-25, 1860

      3X04

      Flashback

      May 1860

      1X19

      Flashback

      June 1860

      2X21

      Bae arrives in England.

      June 1860

      2X04

      Rumpelstiltskin kills Milah.

      1860

      2X14

      Rumpelstiltskin sees the seer again.

      1860

      2X21

      Bae goes to Neverland.

      December 1860

      2X22

      Flashback

      December 1860

      1X05

      Young Jiminy wants to be free from his parents.

      1903

      1X05

      Geppetto’s parents turn into dolls.

      1928

      4X07

      Ingrid discovers she has powers.

      1931

      3X18

      Flashback

      July 1942 - April 15, 1943

      2X16

      Flashback

      1944- February 1, 1945

      Not Shown

      Snow is born

      March 28, 1954

      6X19

      Flashback

      1955

      6X12

      David and James are born.

      1956

      4X07

      Flashback

      1956

      Not Shown

      Red is born

      November 1956

      4X16

      Flashback

      1957

      4X04

      Arthur tells Guinevere about the prophecy.

      1960

      Regina Rising

      Book

      May 5-24, 1961

      2X15

      Flashback

      March 28, 1962

      6X12

      David’s father dies.

      1962

      1X18

      Flashback

      March 1964

      2X02

      Flashback

      1964

      3X16

      Flashback

      1964

      3X20

      Flashback

      1964

      2X05

      Flashback

      1964

      2X12

      Flashback

      1964

      3X03

      Flashback

      1965

      4X22

      Isaac becomes author.

      December 1966

      4X19

      Flashback

      1967

      5X13

      Flashback

      1968

      Out of the Past

      Jefferson meets Priscilla.

      1972

      4X18

      Oz Flashback

      1973

      Red’s Untold Tale

      Book

      May 12-18, 1973

      Out of the Past

      Grace is born.

      1973

      Out of the Past

      Priscilla dies.

      1975

      5X04

      Arthur becomes king.

      1975

      Not Shown

      Frozen events

      Summer 1978

      4X15

      Flashback

      1979

      4X13

      Flashback

      1979

      1X11

      Flashback

      1979

      1X07

      Flashback

      1979

      1X15

      Flashback

      1979

      2X07

      Flashback

      1979

      6X17

      Flashback

      January 1980

      4x01

      Flashback

      February 1980

      4X02

      Flashback

      February 1980

      4x03

      Flashback

      February 1980

      4X04

      Flashback

      March 1980

      4X06

      Flashback

      March 1980

      4X08

      Flashback

      March 1980

      4X09

      Flashback

      March 1980

      1X12

      Belle moves in with Rumpelstiltskin

      March 1980

      6X07

      Flashback

      March 1980

      4X21

      Flashback

      March 1980

      2X19

      Flashback

      March 1980

      3X11

      Rumpelstiltskin celebrates his son’s birthday.

      March 23, 1980

      6X09

      Flashback

      March 1980

      2X20

      Flashback

      April 1980

      2X13

      Flashback

      July 1980

      1X06

      Flashback

      August 1980

      1X03

      Flashback

      August 1980

      5X04

      Rumpelstiltskin visits Camelot.

      September 1980

      4X12

      Flashback

      September 1980

      6X04

      Flashback

      September 1980

      1X12

      Rumpelstiltskin banishes Belle.

      September 1980

      1X14

      Flashback

      October 1980

      2X11

      Flashback

      October 1980

      3X06

      Flashback

      October 1980

      6X05

      Flashback

      October 1980

      6X01

      Flashback

      October 1980

      6X15

      Flashback

      October 1980

      1X10

      Flashback

      November 1980

      1X09

      Flashback

      November 1980

      1X13

      Flashback

      November 1980

      1X16

      Flashback

      November 1980

      6X14

      Flashback

      November 1980

      1X21

      Flashback

      November 1980

      1X22

      Flashback

      November 1980

      3X02

      Flashback

      November 1980

      3X11

      Hook meets Tinkerbell.

      December 1980

      5X12

      Flashback

      February 1, 1981

      1X17

      Flashback

      February 1981

      2X03

      Flashback

      July 1981

      2X10

      Flashback

      November 1982

      6x02

      Flashback

      December 1982

      6X03

      Flashback

      December 1982

      Various

      Snow and Charming’s wedding

      January 1983

      3X10

      Flashback

      January 1983

      4x14

      Flashback

      February 1983

      1X04

      Cinderella’s wedding

      February 1983

      1X04

      Cinderella learns she’s pregnant.

      February 1983

      6X16

      Flashback

      1983

      4X17

      Flashback

      August 1983

      1X20

      Pinocchio becomes a real boy.

      August 1983

      1X04

      Rumpelstiltskin’s imprisonment

      August 1983

      1X01

      Snow and Charming visit Rumpelstiltskin’s cell.

      September 1983

      6x20

      Flashback

      September 1983

      2X09

      Regina hires Hook to kill Cora.

      September 1983

      5X11

      Hook kills his father.

      September 1983

      2X09

      Cora fakes her death.

      September 1983

      1X20

      Geppetto agrees to build a wardrobe.

      October 1983

      3X11

      Snow and Charming worry.

      October 1983

      Not Shown

      Liam meets Captain Nemo.

      October 1983

      Various

      Curse

      October 23, 1983

      2X17

      Flashback

      October 23-27, 1983

      1X20

      Pinocchio abandons Emma.

      January 1984

      5X01

      Emma meets Merlin

      1989

      5X11

      Flashback

      December 1990

      6X17

      Flashback

      1993

      6X20

      Emma records herself singing.

      1993

      3X21

      Flashback

      1995

      4X05

      Flashback

      1998

      4X20

      Flashback

      1999

      4X11

      Ingrid almost adopts Emma.

      1999

      2X06

      Emma meets Neal

      January 2001

      3X22

      Flashback

      January 2001

      2X06

      Emma gets arrested

      February 2001

      2X06

      Emma learns she’s pregnant

      April 2001

      3X01

      Henry is born

      August 15, 2001

      3X09

      Flashback

      September 5, 2001

      5X20

      Flashback

      2009-2010

      3X11

      Mary Margaret gives Henry the book

      October 1, 2011

      1X01

      Present

      October 23, 2011

      2X18

      August meets Tamara.

      October 24, 2011

      1X02

      Present

      October 24, 2011

      1X03

      Present

      October 2011

      1X04

      Present

      November 2011

      1X11

      Emma runs into Ingrid in the ice cream shop.

      November 2011

      1X05

      Present

      November 2011

      1X06

      Present

      November 2011

      1X07

      Present

      November 2011

      1X08

      Present

      November 2011

      2X18

      Neal meets Tamara

      November 2011

      1X09

      Present

      November 2011

      1X10

      Present

      December 2011

      1X11

      Present

      December 2011

      6X06

      Flashback

      2012

      6X18

      Flashback

      2012

      1X12

      Present

      February 13-14, 2012

      1X13

      Present

      February 16-17, 2012

      1X14

      Present

      February 18-19, 2012

      1X15

      Present

      February 20, 2012

      1X16

      Present

      February 21, 2012

      1X17

      Present

      February 21, 2012

      1X18

      Present

      February 22-23, 2012

      1X19

      Present

      February 24, 2012

      1X20

      Present

      February 27, 2012

      1X21

      Present

      February 28, 2012

      1X22

      Present

      February 28-29, 2012

      2X01

      Present

      February 29, 2012

      2X02

      Present

      March 1, 2012

      2X03

      Present

      March 7, 2012

      2X04

      Present

      March 2012

      2X05

      Present

      March 18-19, 2012

      2X06

      Present

      March 19, 2012

      2X07

      Present

      March 20-21, 2012

      2X08

      Present

      March 22, 2012

      2X09

      Present

      March 22, 2012

      2X10

      Present

      March 22-24, 2012

      2X11

      Present

      March 25, 2012

      2X12

      Present

      March 25-26, 2012

      2X13

      Present

      March 26, 2012

      2X14

      Present

      March 27, 2012

      2X15

      Present

      March 28, 2012

      2X16

      Present

      March 28, 2012

      2X17

      Present

      March 29-30, 2012

      2x18

      Present

      April 6, 2012                 

      5X09

      Flashback

      April 2012

      2X19

      Present

      April 13, 2012

      2X20

      Present

      April 14, 2012

      2X21

      Present

      April 14, 2012

      2X22

      Present

      April 15, 2012

      3X01

      Present

      April 16, 2012

      3X02

      Present

      April 16, 2012

      3X03

      Present

      April 17, 2012

      3X04

      Present

      April 18, 2012

      3X05

      Present

      April 19, 2012

      3X06

      Present

      April 20, 2012

      3X07

      Present

      April 20, 2012

      3X08

      Present

      April 21, 2012

      3X09

      Present

      April 21, 2012

      3X10

      Present

      April 22, 2012

      3X11

      Present

      April 23, 2012

      3X12

      Flashback

      April 24, 2012

      3X13

      Flashback

      April 24, 2012

      3X15

      Flashback

      September 2012

      3X17

      Flashback

      December 2012

      3X14

      Flashback

      December 2012

      3X19

      Aurora and Phillip turn into monkeys.

      January 2013

      3X19

      Snow casts the curse

      September 25, 2013

      3X12

      Present

      September 24-26, 2013

      3X13

      Present

      September 27, 2013

      3X14

      Present

      September 28, 2013

      3X15

      Present

      September 29, 2013

      3X16

      Present

      September 30, 2013

      3X17

      Present

      October 1, 2013

      3X18

      Present

      October 2, 2013

      3X19

      Present

      October 3, 2013

      3X20

      Present

      October 3, 2013

      3X21

      Present

      October 4, 2013

      3X22

      Present

      October 4, 2013

      4X01

      Present

      October 4-5, 2013

      4X02

      Present

      October 6, 2013

      4X03

      Present

      October 7, 2013

      4X04

      Present

      October 8, 2013

      4X05

      Present

      November 2013

      4X06

      Present

      November 2013

      4X07

      Present

      January 9, 2014

      4X08

      Present

      January 10, 2014

      4X09

      Present

      January 10, 2014

      4X10

      Present

      January 11, 2014

      4X11

      Present

      January 11, 2014

      4X12

      Present

      January 12, 2014

      4X18

      New York Flashback

      January 2014

      4X13

      Present

      March 7, 2014

      4X14

      Present

      March 8, 2014

      4X15

      Present

      March 9, 2014

      4X16

      Present

      March 10, 2014

      4X17

      Present

      March 26, 2014

      4X18

      Present

      March 26, 2014

      4x19

      Present

      March 27, 2014

      4X20

      Present

      March 28, 2014

      4X21

      Present

      March 29, 2014

      4X22

      Present

      March 30, 2014

      4X23

      Present

      March 30, 2014

      5X01

      Present

      March 30-31, 2014

      5X02

      Flashback

      April 1, 2014

      5X03

      Flashback

      May 8, 2014

      5X04

      Present

      May 9, 2014

      5X05

      Flashback

      May 10, 2014

      5X06

      Flashback

      May 11, 2014

      5X07

      Present

      May 12, 2014

      5X08

      Flashback

      May 13, 2014

      5X09

      Present

      May 14, 2015

      5X10

      Flashback

      May 14, 2015

      5X02

      Present

      May 15, 2015

      5X03

      Present

      May 16, 2015

      5X05

      Present

      May 17, 2015

      5X06

      Present

      May 18, 2015

      5X08

      Present

      June 3, 2014

      5X10

      Present

      June 4-5, 2014

      5X11

      Present

      June 6, 2014

      5X12

      Present

      June 7, 2014

      5X13

      Present

      June 8, 2014

      5X14

      Present

      June 9, 2014

      5X15

      Present

      June 15, 2014          

      5X18

      Flashback

      July 2014

      5X16

      Present

      July 19, 2014

      5X17

      Present

      July 20-21, 2014

      5X18

      Present

      July 21, 2014

      5X19

      Present

      July 22, 2014

      5X20

      Present

      July 23, 2014

      5X21

      Present

      July 24, 2014

      5X22

      Present

      July 25, 2014

      5X23

      Present

      July 25, 2014

      6X01

      Present

      July 26, 2014

      6X02

      Present

      July 27, 2014

      6X03

      Present

      August 2014

      6X04

      Present

      September 2-5, 2014

      6X05

      Present

      September 6, 2014

      6X06

      Present

      September 7, 2014

      6X07

      Present

      September 8, 2014

      6X08

      Present

      September 12, 2014

      6X09

      Present

      September 13, 2014

      6X10

      Present

      September 14, 2014

      6X11

      Present

      September 14, 2014

      6X12

      Present

      September 15, 2014

      6X13

      Present

      September 16, 2014

      6X14

      Present

      September 17, 2014

      6X15

      Present

      September 18, 2014

      6X16

      Present

      September 19, 2014

      6X17

      Present

      September 20, 2014

      6X18

      Present

      September 26, 2014

      6X19

      Present

      September 27, 2014

      6X20

      Present

      September 28, 2014

      6X21

      Present

      September 29, 2014

      6X22

      Present

      September 29, 2014

      6X22

      Future

      2029

        Preparing Editor Spell
    • Good job on the timeline! I haven't looked at the whole thing yet, but from browsing it, it looks good.

        Preparing Editor Spell
    • Nice job indeed. I once did a timeline of the show as well (with no dates though) and noticed that yours differs in the following points:

      - You forgot the 5x05 flashback (Merlin becomes a tree)

      - You forgot the 4x04 flashback (Zoso tries to steal Merlin's hat)

      - You forgot the 3x16 flashback (Zelena is found in Oz)

      - I also added the events from Wonderland; Jafar meets the sultan (W07), then Amara (W04) around 1950; Cyrus becomes a Genie at any point before that (W11)

      - You say the flashback in 6x19 is set in 1955, but it is actually set much earlier (as you indeed wrote); unless you meant 4x19 as...

      - ... "Sympathy for DeVil"'s flashback (missing in your timeline) is set around 1955

      - I also included the events from Brave and Frozen for reference; the pre-title sequence takes place in 1966 and the events of Brave take place in 1976; Frozen takes place in 1967 (Elsa kills Anna), 1970 (young Anna and Elsa), 1977 (their parents die), 1980 (most of the movie). This seems to be off with your timeline, since you set the 4A arc in 1980.

      - Alice returns from Wonderland around 1969 (W01)

      - Jafar kills Amara around 1975 (W04). At some point after that Jafar kills the Sultan's son (W07)

      - After "Heart of Gold"'s flashback and before the 4A arc, Will steals Maleficent's glass (W03) and escapes to Wonderland with Ana (W05), then Cora rips Will's heart (W11)

      - You wrote 6x17 instead of 5X17

      - Aladdin/Jafar and Jafar flashbacks between 3x06 and 1x10 are set this way: Jafar and Aladdin first meet (6x05), Alice gets Will's heart back (W12), Cyrus' bottles ends in Wonderland (W02) and is found by Alice (W01), Cyrus says to Alice he loves her (W02), Jafar gets to Aladdin (6X01), Jasmine meets Ariel (6x15), Cyrus gets a magical tent to live in with Alice (W08), Jafar kidnaps Cyrus (W01), Alice returns home (W06)

      - A 5X12 flashback is set before the end of 5x11, but that's just a tiny detail

      - The 6x16 flashback is set between 6x09 and 6x10

        Preparing Editor Spell
    • I will fix all of the mistakes as soon as I can. I will also try to add the Wonderland events, but I need to do a little more research. 4A has to take place no later than 1980 because it is before Roland is born. It also takes place before all the Belle and Rumpel and Snow and Charming events.

        Preparing Editor Spell
    • Begfhn wrote:
      I will fix all of the mistakes as soon as I can. I will also try to add the Wonderland events, but I need to do a little more research. 4A has to take place no later than 1980 because it is before Roland is born. It also takes place before all the Belle and Rumpel and Snow and Charming events.

      Frozen flashbacks took place before (or in) 1978/ 1979 (before the Snowing drama and Belle with Rumple) except the end of 4x08 with Ingrid travelling to our world, that event took place some years later. She should have been searching a way to take back Elsa's urn from Rumple, but she didn't get a way, so she finally accepted the apprentice proposal and used the magic door.

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    • Episode

      Event

      Approximate Date

      5X07

      Merlin becomes immortal.

      1014

      5X07

      Nimue becomes the dark one.

      1514

      5X05

      Merlin becomes a tree.

      1514

      6X19

      Flashback

      Winter 1810

      3X08

      Flashback

      1820

      Not Shown

      Hook is born.

      1830

      5X11

      Brenan Jones sells his children to Captain Silver.

      1840

      2X14

      Baelfire is born.

      March 23, 1846

      5X15

      Flashback

      1848

      3X05

      Flashback

      1851

      5X14

      Flashback

      1852

      2X04

      Milah runs off with Hook.

      1852

      4X04

      Zoso tries to steal Merlin’s hat.

      1859

      1X08

      Flashback

      March 20-23, 1860

      6X13

      Flashback

      March 23-25, 1860

      3X04

      Flashback

      May 1860

      1X19

      Flashback

      June 1860

      2X21

      Bae arrives in England.

      June 1860

      2X04

      Rumpelstiltskin kills Milah.

      1860

      2X14

      Rumpelstiltskin sees the seer again.

      1860

      2X21

      Bae goes to Neverland.

      December 1860

      2X22

      Flashback

      December 1860

      1X05

      Young Jiminy wants to be free from his parents.

      1903

      1X05

      Geppetto’s parents turn into dolls.

      1928

      4X07

      Ingrid discovers she has powers.

      1931

      3X18

      Flashback

      July 1942 - April 15, 1943

      3X16

      Baby Zelena is found.

      April 16, 1943

      2X16

      Flashback

      1944- February 1, 1945

      W07

      Flashback

      1950

      W04

      Jafar meets Amara.

      1950

      Not Shown

      Snow is born

      March 28, 1954

      5X19

      Flashback

      1955

      6X18

      Zelena meets Stanum.

      1956

      6X12

      David and James are born.

      1956

      4X07

      Flashback

      1956

      Not Shown

      Red is born

      November 1956

      4X16

      Flashback

      1957

      4X04

      Arthur tells Guinevere about the prophecy.

      1960

      Regina Rising

      Book

      May 5-24, 1961

      2X15

      Flashback

      March 28, 1962

      6X12

      David’s father dies.

      1962

      1X18

      Flashback

      March 1964

      2X02

      Flashback

      1964

      3X16

      Flashback

      1964

      3X20

      Flashback

      1964

      2X05

      Flashback

      1964

      2X12

      Flashback

      1964

      3X03

      Flashback

      1965

      4X22

      Isaac becomes author.

      December 1966

      4X19

      Flashback

      1967

      5X13

      Flashback

      1968

      Out of the Past

      Jefferson meets Priscilla.

      1972

      W01

      Alice discovers Wonderland.

      1972

      4X18

      Oz Flashback

      1973

      W03

      Flashback

      1973

      W05

      Flashback

      1973

      W11

      Flashback

      1973

      Red’s Untold Tale

      Book

      May 12-18, 1973

      Out of the Past

      Grace is born.

      1973

      Out of the Past

      Priscilla dies.

      1975

      5X04

      Arthur becomes king.

      1975

      4X01

      Elsa’s parents die.

      1975

      W04

      Jafar turns Amara into a snake staff.

      1975

      Not Shown

      Brave events

      1976

      Not Shown

      Frozen events

      Summer 1978

      4X15

      Flashback

      1979

      4X13

      Flashback

      1979

      1X11

      Flashback

      1979

      1X07

      Flashback

      1979

      1X15

      Flashback

      1979

      2X07

      Flashback

      1979

      5X17

      Flashback

      January 1980

      4x01

      Flashback

      February 1980

      4X02

      Flashback

      February 1980

      4x03

      Flashback

      February 1980

      4X04

      Flashback

      March 1980

      4X06

      Flashback

      March 1980

      4X08

      Flashback

      March 1980

      4X09

      Flashback

      March 1980

      1X12

      Belle moves in with Rumpelstiltskin

      March 1980

      6X07

      Flashback

      March 1980

      4X21

      Flashback

      March 1980

      2X19

      Flashback

      March 1980

      3X11

      Rumpelstiltskin celebrates his son’s birthday.

      March 23, 1980

      6X09

      Flashback

      March 1980

      2X20

      Flashback

      April 1980

      2X13

      Flashback

      July 1980

      1X06

      Flashback

      August 1980

      1X03

      Flashback

      August 1980

      5X04

      Rumpelstiltskin visits Camelot.

      September 1980

      4X12

      Flashback

      September 1980

      6X04

      Flashback

      September 1980

      1X12

      Rumpelstiltskin banishes Belle.

      September 1980

      1X14

      Flashback

      October 1980

      2X11

      Flashback

      October 1980

      3X06

      Flashback

      October 1980

      6X05

      Flashback

      October 1980

      W02

      Jafar sends Cyrus to Wonderland.

      October 1980

      6X01

      Flashback

      October 1980

      6X15

      Flashback

      October 1980

      1X10

      Flashback

      November 1980

      1X09

      Flashback

      November 1980

      1X13

      Flashback

      November 1980

      1X16

      Flashback

      November 1980

      6X14

      Flashback

      November 1980

      1X21

      Flashback

      November 1980

      1X22

      Flashback

      November 1980

      3X02

      Flashback

      November 1980

      3X11

      Hook meets Tinkerbell.

      December 1980

      5X12

      Flashback

      February 1, 1981

      1X17

      Flashback

      February 1981

      2X03

      Flashback

      July 1981

      W01

      Alice meets Cyrus.

      1981

      W08

      Flashback

      1982

      W12

      Flashback

      1982

      2X10

      Flashback

      November 1982

      6x02

      Flashback

      December 1982

      6X03

      Flashback

      December 1982

      W06

      Alice meets Millie.

      January 1983

      Various

      Snow and Charming’s wedding

      January 1983

      3X10

      Flashback

      January 1983

      4x14

      Flashback

      February 1983

      1X04

      Cinderella’s wedding

      February 1983

      1X04

      Cinderella learns she’s pregnant.

      February 1983

      W01

      Alice is put in an asylum.

      1983

      5X16

      Flashback

      1983

      4X17

      Flashback

      August 1983

      1X20

      Pinocchio becomes a real boy.

      August 1983

      1X04

      Rumpelstiltskin’s imprisonment

      August 1983

      1X01

      Snow and Charming visit Rumpelstiltskin’s cell.

      September 1983

      6x20

      Flashback