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  • Remember when Rumple said that the Hat can be used to travel to magical worlds? I think he really meant that it can access worlds in their Universe. Recently, it's known that Victorian England can be accessed through the Hat, and Victorian England isn't a magical world. The presence of Magic is there because the White Rabbit and Jafar used it but other than that, it ain't Magical. Like the Land Whithout Magic, the presence of Magic is there, like what the Dragon said, as inhabitants from the Magical Universe uses Magic, somehow, here. But, the Land Without Magic cannot be accessed by the Hat.

    Any suggestions?

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    • Victorian England is a Magical world, that's why the rabbit could go there. They confirmed somewhere that all the worlds the Rabbit can reach are magical.

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    • Yep, what above said. All worlds we have seen are magical except that Land without Magic, which might be on its own. I know Jefferson said things about worlds without magic, but if you take a bean to a land without magic, there must be only one or it drops you off in the closest one.

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    • All of the doors in the hat reminded me of the doors in the trees in the movie A Nightmare Before Christmas.

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      1. Tan Door=Agrabah
      2. Grey Door=Land Without Color
      3. Pink Brick Door=Nursery Rhyme World
      4. Green Door with a Hole=?
      5. Brown Door with Trees=Encahnted Forest
      6. Blue Door with Four Holes=Arendelle
      7. Medieval Brown and Grey Door=?
      8. Light Red Door with Logograms on it=?
      9. Reddish Door=Netherworld
      10. Oriental Style Red Door with Golden Knobs=?
      11. Green Curtain Door=Oz
      12. Looking Glass=Wonderland
      13. Glass Elevator=Willy Wonka World
      14. Normal Door with a Keyhole=Victorian England
      15. Pink Door=?
      16. Greyish Door=?
      17. Stone-like Door=Camelot
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    • There would be no door to neither Agrabah nor Netherworld. Agrabah is a country that neighbors the Enchanted Forest in FTL. Netherworld is a dream state that can be accessed across realms, not a whole different dimension.

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    • ^^ Don't forget Camelot!

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    • Right, Camelot! Forget about that.

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    • WorldHopper22 wrote: Right, Camelot! Forget about that.

      Wait, why?....I understand, lol. Camelot is finally a world (in Ouat: Out of the Past).

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    • I haven't read the comic yet so is Camelot confirmed as a world or is that assumed because Jefferson was there?

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    • WorldHopper22 wrote: I haven't read the comic yet so is Camelot confirmed as a world or is that assumed because Jefferson was there?

      He was on a portal mission, which means he jumped from EF to there, most likely since he's from there.

      Plus it says Camelot there and Enchanted Forest in the ...well Enchanted Forest. I wish they had kingdom names, but oh well! Though we do know there were multiple kingdoms in the ogres war during and after Belle went with Rumple. Her kingdom, of course lasted, with her father I guess helping the kingdom which he belongs to (Avonlea? they never mention it in the comic).

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    • Perhaps the Hat can travel to any world (magical or not) if the world lies within the same Universe. currently, all the worlds are from the same Universe, except the Land Without Magic. Rumple said it can only access worlds with magic, but it's uncertain whether it can access worlds withou magic (except Land Without Magic) because such worlds does not exist in the show yet. Reminder : Rumple isn't the creator of the Hat, so he can't know much about it. Perhaps the creator created it for easy access for him/herself to all the worlds in their universe. 

      Theory : Maybe there are more than 17 doors in the hat? there could be extra corridors and floors not shown in the show yet. There could be more than just 17 Worlds in this universe. 

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    • I agree with the all worlds, except LWM, are in one universe and it is supported. in Agrabah-EF, a merchant wished Cyrus as far from Agrabah as the Earth is from the Sun (~93 million miles). It lands in Wonderland's maze. Wonderland is also noted as being a small world by others.

      The Hat can only travel to magical worlds, just how the White Rabbit can only travel to magical worlds. The only definite way to travel to LWM are magic beans and the DC. The shadow is a bit of a plot hole since why could it exist but the Chernabog not?

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    • I wonder where the door that Gorin was inside leads to. Because the illustration was his prison but the door was already in the book. So I wonder what world it leads to in real life. It must be important if there's an entire picture for it.

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    • WorldHopper22 wrote: I wonder where the door that Gorin was inside leads to. Because the illustration was his prison but the door was already in the book. So I wonder what world it leads to in real life. It must be important if there's an entire picture for it.

      Nothing. The peddler said it was cramped in their and he couldn't even reach the bottle of brandy.

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      WorldHopper22 wrote: I wonder where the door that Gorin was inside leads to. Because the illustration was his prison but the door was already in the book. So I wonder what world it leads to in real life. It must be important if there's an entire picture for it.

      Nothing. The peddler said it was cramped in their and he couldn't even reach the bottle of brandy.

      That's not what I mean. I mean the actual door that the picture depicted. It would be in Jefferson's hat (if the hat was restored). What world would it lead to?

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    • Eskaver wrote:

      WorldHopper22 wrote: I haven't read the comic yet so is Camelot confirmed as a world or is that assumed because Jefferson was there?

      He was on a portal mission, which means he jumped from EF to there, most likely since he's from there.

      Plus it says Camelot there and Enchanted Forest in the ...well Enchanted Forest.

      But the Enchanted Forest isn't a world. It's just a huge country in FTL.

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    • WorldHopper22 wrote:

      Eskaver wrote:

      WorldHopper22 wrote: I haven't read the comic yet so is Camelot confirmed as a world or is that assumed because Jefferson was there?

      He was on a portal mission, which means he jumped from EF to there, most likely since he's from there.

      Plus it says Camelot there and Enchanted Forest in the ...well Enchanted Forest.

      But the Enchanted Forest isn't a world. It's just a huge country in FTL.

      Enchanted Forest is what I call the world. Most call it FTL. Enchanted Forest is a region, not a country.

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    • Chocolate080403 wrote:
      #Tan Door=Agrabah#Grey Door=Land Without Color
      1. Pink Brick Door=Nursery Rhyme World
      2. Green Door with a Hole=?
      3. Brown Door with Trees=Encahnted Forest
      4. Blue Door with Four Holes=Arendelle
      5. Medieval Brown and Grey Door=?
      6. Light Red Door with Logograms on it=?
      7. Reddish Door=Netherworld
      8. Oriental Style Red Door with Golden Knobs=?
      9. Green Curtain Door=Oz
      10. Looking Glass=Wonderland
      11. Glass Elevator=Willy Wonka World
      12. Normal Door with a Keyhole=Victorian England
      13. Pink Door=?
      14. Greyish Door=?
      15. Stone-like Door=?
      1. 16=Camelot
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      1. Tan Door=Agrabah
      2. Grey Door=Land Without Color
      3. Pink Brick Door=Nursery Rhyme World
      4. Green Door with a Hole=Neverland
      5. Brown Door with Trees=Encahnted Forest
      6. Blue Door with Four Holes=Arendelle
      7. Medieval Brown and Grey Door=?
      8. Light Red Door with Logograms on it=?
      9. Reddish Door=Netherworld
      10. Oriental Style Red Door with Golden Knobs=?
      11. Green Curtain Door=Oz
      12. Looking Glass=Wonderland
      13. Glass Elevator=Willy Wonka World
      14. Normal Door with a Keyhole=Victorian England
      15. Pink Door=?
      16. Greyish Door=?
      17. Stone-like Door=Camelot
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    • Well, though it's obvious. The green door with curtains is confirmed in show to be OZ. Robin is seen going through it in the recent promo uploaded on the official Facebook page (Beware of illogical comments!)

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    • The Enchanted Forest is, in my opinion not behind one of the doors. If it was, Jefferson should get to the portal through a door, not by free-falling into it. I think to go back to the EF you kind of jump upwards and the magic happens. xD

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    • I agree. The Enchanted Forest seems to be it's base world. He never uses the hat to travel to EF, just other worlds from EF.

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      I agree. The Enchanted Forest seems to be it's base world. He never uses the hat to travel to EF, just other worlds from EF.


      Not true. Jefferson did Camelot to EF and Wonderland to EF in the comic book. Regina and her father also did Wonderland to EF, same for Hook and Cora :)

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    • I mean hat portal from the place. But you are right about the hat being in Wonderland and I think Camelot in the comics. I always wondered what happens to the hat when he goes through.

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    • It makes no sense that the Hat was with them in Wonderland or in Camelot lol. THey should've had to walk through a door.

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    • I agree. We saw on the show, they go through the hat and the only way back is through the door and Jefferson is without the hat. However, the comics introduced him having his hat with him after travelling through it.(which makes since so no one seals a hat that just sits on the ground.

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    • What I had been thinking, was that the hat simply vanished untill whoever jumped through it comes back. But now idk.

      We know the Hat can be used without having to go through the Portal of Doors, at least in the way the LWM's magic works. The apple went right through it and into the LWM, it's not like it bounced in through a door and then all the way up, at least I don't think so xD So perhaps Jefferson just did that in the Comic, keeping the hat with him. Idk.

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    • With EF (technically FTL) being the 'anchor world' for the hat, this could be how part of it works: one uses the hat in FTL to access the portal of doors to travel to other magical worlds, however, if the hat is in another world besides FTL, as it was when it was located in SB, by default, it opens a portal to FTL. This is shown in "An Apple Red as Blood" and "Broken".

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    • Makes perfect sense. Same happened in Wonderland and Camelot.

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    • The hat itself works in any world. The doors are subordinate to the hat, that is, there are doors on all worlds, but you can only use them using the hat. This means, for example, if I leave the Enchanted Forest and go to Wonderland, I have to go back and forth, but I can not get out of Wonderland without using the hat. That's my theory.

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    • I think the Hat being possible to open in Storybrooke is because of the presence of magic. However, back in their own land, it would have been impossible to get to Storybrooke or the LWM. The free fall act clearly is a portal to enter the room filled with doors.

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    • Once they can get Sebastian Stan back, I'd LOVE it if they did an arc with these doors. Like a mission or something.

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    • Nakis91 wrote: Once they can get Sebastian Stan back, I'd LOVE it if they did an arc with these doors. Like a mission or something.

      Same here <3

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    • Based on the information that we currently have, I believe that the following doors lead to the listed worlds:

      1. Tan Door
      2. Gray Door
      3. Pink Brick Door -- The Three Little Pigs-inspired world or a Nursery Rhyme-inspired world or 18th-19th century-inspired Britain (bricked windows from the window tax)
      4. Lime Green Door with a centered window/mirror
      5. Brown Door with a tree design
      6. Sky Blue Door with four gray handles
      7. Medieval Brown & Gray Door -- Land Without Color
      8. Light Red Door with logograms -- Ancient Egyptian-inspired world (logograms resemble Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs)
      9. Dark Red Door with a white pattern -- Dracula-inspired world (I believe the "white pattern" are cobwebs)
      10. Red Oriental Door -- East Asian-inspired world (not Mulan's homeland which is located in FTL)
      11. Emerald Green Curtain -- Land of Oz
      12. Looking Glass -- Wonderland
      13. Glass Elevator Door -- Charlie and the Chocolate Factory-inspired world (looks more like the Wonkavator from the 1971 film than the Great Glass Elevator drawn on the book or in the 2005 film)
      14. Light Brown Door with windows on the sides -- Victorian England?
      15. Pink Door
      16. Dark Gray Door
      17. Wooden Castle Door with a stone door frame -- Land of Camelot
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    • This would be my theory xD (wishful thinking, not actually theorizing)

      1. Tan Door - Kuzcotopia - Aztec/Incan inspired world. ("Emperor's New Grooves")
      2. Gray Door - Land Without Color - Victor Frankenstein, etc.
      3. Pink Brick Door - Diagon Alley - Alternative England. ("Harry Potter")
      4. Lime Green Door with a centered window/mirror - Magic Bean ish door, leading to anywhere in the Enchanted Forest.
      5. Brown Door with a tree design - Agrabah.
      6. Sky Blue Door with four gray handles - Atlantica.
      7. Medieval Brown & Gray Door - Camelot.
      8. Light Red Door with logograms - Ancient Egypt based land.
      9. Dark BROWN Door with a white pattern - Narnia.
      10. Red Oriental Door - Spirit World. ("Spirited Away")
      11. Emerald Green Curtain: Oz
      12. Looking Glass: Wonderland
      13. Glass Elevator Door - Futuristic land, where all the Sci Fi stories take place.
      14. Light Brown Door with windows on the sides - Alternative Englands (VE, 1920s England, etc.)
      15. Pink Door - Netherworld.
      16. Dark Gray Door - Neverland.
      17. Wooden Door with a stone door frame - (?)

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    • Pink door I think is 1920s world. Would explain who piucked up Cruella and it sort of fits that era.

      We've seen the Enchanted Forest world door, I believe. The one the Apprentice's use or the one that the Author is behind (they sort of look the same).

      So, Worlds we have up coming is Camelot, 1920s England, Arendelle isn't one of them it seems. I guess it's one per world.

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    • Thread may be quite old, but seeing that Camelot and potentially the EF was all once desert, could it be possible that EF had a desert like door?

      (Besides the Door Apprentice used when showing Isaac magic)

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    • I don't think the EF was desert too. I think that was just Camelot xD

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    • Well, I was when using some clues, it wouldn't seem near Aurora's lands and stuff, but then again magic XD

      Another theory of mine is that using the number system of Jefferson's hat and guessing every world is present. If there are 17 doors in a circle the furthest away is either of two options. So, either 3 or 4, probably 4 is the EF door. It's a bit of a stretch, seeing that the merchant guy said he wished Cyrus as far as the Earth is from the sun, not as far as in a hat, lol.

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    • How about the reddish door -Toontown? (Who framed Roger Rabbit)

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    • This may be the wrong place to post this, but I had an idea, could there be a world based on the American Fronteir with characters like Paul Bunyan, Johnny Appleseed (though I think he was a real person) Davy Crockett, and maybe Dorothy could be from there

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    • The door next to the Looking Glass in the concept art looks like it could be some kind of steampunk world.

      The light blue door with the metallic oval mechanism on the front could be Atlantis from Atlantis: The Lost Empire as it looks similar to the energy produced by the Heart of Atlantis and the metal is reminiscent of some of the architecture and technology.

      The golden door could possibly be 19th Century France. However, it could also be an 18th Century Russian-inspired world as the colour and patterns are reminiscent of the famous Amber Room, gifted to the Russian Tsar by the Prussian King in 1716.

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    • A Spy in the Mirror
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