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  • Alright, I know it's still a bit early, but filming for Season 4 is nearly done (only 420, 421, and 422 to go), and Adam and Eddy have already made a statement about someone that is at the top of their list for Season 5 (that being Mulan), so I thought we could start discussing what we think we will see in Season 5. Feel free to talk about plot points, stories, new characters, old characters, heroes, villains, lands, etc. Anything you think we could see in Season 5.

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    • Here are some of my predictions:

      Heroes:

      - More Mulan and her backstory

      - More Wizard of Oz characters, including ones from the sequels like Ozma

      - Arthur, Gwen, and other Camelot heroes

      - Alladin and Jasmine

      Villains:

      - Jafar

      - Morgan Le Fay

      - Dracula

      - The Black Fairy

      - The Gnome King from the Oz Books

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    • They already said they are planning a storyline of Mulan next season... so that isn't a prediction


      Here is mine:

      If we are dealing with the author this season.... Season 5 will be the last one. 

      Facing the author and changing the book is the ultimate storyline for OUaT....

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    • Well, I can't really predict much be we might get two more seasons before it ends.

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      They already said they are planning a storyline of Mulan next season... so that isn't a prediction


      Here is mine:

      If we are dealing with the author this season.... Season 5 will be the last one. 

      Facing the author and changing the book is the ultimate storyline for OUaT....

      I don't think so.. A&E will come up with something. I'm quite happy to watch this show until Regina's in a nursing home

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    • Here is what I think a good Season 5 would look like (this is based off ideas of my own and ideas from other people that kinda merged into one large...thing).

      At the end of this season, we find out that the Sorcerer or the Author is Merlin (It could end up being that the Sorcerer is holding the Author captive or maybe vice versa, but we know they're different people). This revelation launches a Camelot themed arc. I've sensed something like this coming with the recent mention of the gauntlet from Camelot. In flashbacks, we find out that Morgan le fay had taken over Camelot. Sometime around October, there would be a Halloween-ish episode where we learn that the Headless Horseman, after being decapitated in Wonderland or the Land Without Color by Cora, made his way to Camelot in Fairy Tale Land and became the main henchman to Morgan. After this episode, both Morgan and the Headless Horseman are seen in Storybrooke, after staying in the shadows for a while. This would be easy for them becasue they are from Camelot - so far the only person in the show that I know has been to Camelot is Rumple, and he keeps alot of secrets, so he might not say anything up to this point about them. Maybe they were planning on confroting Regina or Rumple about something before the dark curse hit and got taken with in the first or second time. Now that they know that Merlin is back, Morgan wants to enact some sort of revenge on him for something he did back in Camelot that disrupted her reign. Near the end of this I think it would be cool for the Headless Horseman to be redeemed in some way. Smaller appearances by Arthur, Guinevere, and other knights in flashbacks would be nice, but I don't see them having a huge presence. There are already a lot of kings and queen and other royalty in the show.

      Since Mulan is going to be a part of Season 5 for sure, I want to include her as well. This is just one theory, going off the assumption that Mulan is in Storybrooke even though we haven't seen her in a while - She becomes indecisive and restless about being in the Merry Men and wants to leave. She is seen at Grannys or the Rabbit Hole trying to make a decision, where she is approached by Morgan. Morgan acts like she wants to help her, but she really just wants to enlist Mulan to fight with her against Merlin. While still under the impression that Morgan can be trusted, she runs into Aurora, who she has been avoiding since coming to Storybrooke. Aurora tries to reconnect with her. When an eventual fight ensues between Morgan and Mulan, Aurora is injured and Mulan becomes a fierce enemy of Morgan. If there could also be a fight scene between the Headless Horseman and her, that would be amazing. All of this would be spread out over a few episodes I think.

      If I had to bring in other characters to participate in all of this besides the main cast, it would probably be ones like Frankenstein/Dr. Whale (a connection to the Headles Horseman - maybe he found a way to keep him alive after being decapitated) a flashback or two from Lancelot since he's dead, King George/Albert Spencer (some connection Arthur or Morgan) the Blue Fairy, August, Red, and Sidney.

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    • this is my idea for Season 5

      at the series finale, the apprentice after getting free from the hat creates a magic door back to the EF. he travels to a castle where we meet the sorcerer who is reading something. the apprentice says something about the author and the sorcerer turns and monologues as he walks to the window. the camera goes down till it stops at a sword in a stone.

      then that leads into either a usual 11 episode Camelot arc or a full season plot. Morgan le Fey will be the villain (the first or the other dark one) who is plotting to take over Camelot which is abandoned after Arthur disappeared and the round table disbanded. Merlin resides inside the castle protected by a force field, a similar one to Cora's to protect Camelot from both dark curses. a trio of round table knights fight to survive against Morgan's forces as the seek the Lady of the Lake. Mordred (in this version he is gay but that really happening is unlikely which is annoying) is trying to seek revenge on Merlin for letting his lover (insert character name) from being taken by the dark curse and he becomes a misunderstood hero. Morgan takes over halfway through and the Storybrooke cast travel to Camelot (like with Neverland) and help Merlin fend off Morgan and find Arthur.

      if that lot lasts the usual 11 episodes then it leads into a Agrabah arc with Jafar being freed from the lamp by Drizela, the sister to Anastasia. Jafar plans on doing something to Storybrooke that involves genies. Mulan helps the main cast with fighting Jafar while she deals with Aurora and Phillip (awkward conversations). Emma while on a case sees two men breaking into Mr. Gold's shop where she is on hot pursuit. she catches one of them, Flynn who back in EF was Prince Eugene, a reckless prince who steals items (cross between story version and Tangled version). he reveals the second thief is Aladdin who is trying to get back Jasmine who they had a falling out with. while this is going on, the author storyline continues to whatever direction it's going. so this goes on for 11 episodes until the finale where Drizela changes sides, Jafar is killed permanently and people singing Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah. until the secret villain reveals himself (or herself) as Blue fairy goes crazy and becomes the black fairy (unless Maleficent is). the end

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    • I do see the series ending in one or two more seasons. And even though I love the show I want to know how it will end.

      But before it does I want to see

      • Camelot arc
      • Aladdin & Jasmine (possibly the return of Jafar)
      • Princess & the Frog
      • Anastasia
      • Mulan
      • Hook's Father
      • And maybe Altantis & Hercules

      If this happens, I'll die a happy man.

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    • WinterWoodsGal wrote:
      8Rob wrote:
      They already said they are planning a storyline of Mulan next season... so that isn't a prediction


      Here is mine:

      If we are dealing with the author this season.... Season 5 will be the last one. 

      Facing the author and changing the book is the ultimate storyline for OUaT....

      I don't think so.. A&E will come up with something. I'm quite happy to watch this show until Regina's in a nursing home

      In other words, until she's the EQ again, you know, the Elderly Queen.

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    • So either we're all misreading everything or they have hinted at a Camelot arc in 5A. We're all expecting it at any rate. Also, remember that Mulan said she has the strongest blade in all the realms? Does Mulan have Excaliber? Something to think about. Might be why she is top of their list for Season 5.

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    • I have very little doubt that we will see Camelot next season (or at least before the series ends). There have been too many references going back to at least the second season (I don't remember any from season 1, but I could be wrong) not to have it.

      We also know that A & E have plans for something with Mulan, so assuming Jamie Chung becomes available, I would expect that.  And given the setup that was given for Mulan in S3, I would anticipate at least a little connection to Robin Hood to occur with that arc (at least in Present day).

      I think with Eion Bailey coming back in the back half of 4, we might get a full-on Pinnochio Episode (We've really only had the Monstro scene and Pinnochio turning into a real boy from the original story, there's a whole lot more), particularly if some of the guesses about the Blue Fairy hold true (with her knowing more than she lets on).

      At some point, we will get the Black Fairy (I'm getting less and less confident that Maleficent will be the Black Fairy, though time will tell). THis might tie into Blue's Backstory as well (and also include the Pinnochio story from above).

      And, at some point, we will get more details on the Dark One.

      That's more than enough right there for one season, and there is still plenty of material, so I don't see this ending after 5 seasons.

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    • For me, by the time ss4B ends, they will have found the author who won't agree or can't write Regina a happy ending

      "He" tells her that if she wants her life changed, she has to earn it by getting "him" the right ingredients to make a magical quill, if she wants "him" to rewrite her story

      These special ingredients can only be found in Camelot, so the group joins Regina to travel to a new realm to collect all of them

      However, they has to face against the outrageously evil Black Fairy, who goes by the name Morgan Le Fay.

      She's the one who captured Merlin while ruling the kingdom

      That's all for ss5A

      ...

      Ss5B willl be about the fallouts from changing the books

      After her story was rewritten, Regina realises that it's not the Happy Ending that she wants

      The slogan of this season will be :

      "Changing the book always comes with a price"

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    • Lets see..... I predict Rumple possibly destroying the author and writing and alternt universe or curse. But that's a big MAYBE!

      In s5 we will get the 100th ep so I bet we will see all the characters both dead and alive at once in that ep.

      Hopefully we will get a Camelot arc...

      There has never been a doubt in my mind Em or Belle will get pregnant but weather that will be in s5 or s6 remains to be seen...

      If we get a Mulan arc the of course we have to have the hottest animated character next to Goliath on Gargoyles, Lee Chang. Plus Mushu and the Huns as villains.

      Hopeful for OQ to get to start a real relationship like CS..

      PLEASE! PLEASE! IM BEGGING ON MY KNESS! KEEP TQOD'S!!!!! I don't care if they become Navengers or if they stay pure evil, JUST DONT LET THEM GO!!!!

      Oh also lets bring in some classic novel characters... The Hunchback, the headless horseman, Mr. Hyde, the phantom of the opera.....

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    • I still want to see Willy Wonka on the show sometime or maybe even Mary Popppins

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    • There are some characters I can see being recurring and some being one time characters next season, and some not being a character at all.

      I can see Mary Poppins being a one off character or a recurring one, but if she was seen too often I think it would be weird. The hunchback would be a cool one-timer as well.

      I've stated before how much I want the Headless Horseman. If he was a one episode character that would be fine, but I think that he could become interesting enough for the show to make him recurring in an arc.

      I think Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde would be too much for the show, but I can see them being alluded to - perhaps one of the characters develops a personality disorder or it cursed to act like someone else.

      I feel like the Phantom of the Opera is way too popular in it's musical form and trying to put him in the show would be too difficult. I would envision him coming from the Land Without Color, and if that world became to cluttered I think it would lose its appeal.

      I don't think that Willy Wonka will ever be on the show. He feels too modern. Of course, we have Dr. Frankenstein on the show and that seemed to work smootly and he's also modern, so who knows.

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    • MARY POPPINS???!!!!........ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • I'm positive Mulan will appear. She'll need her relatives (Yunjin Kim as her mother please!), Shang, an Emperor, Jiminy as her cricket, the tree idiots, Mushu as a god or something to worship and Shan Yu as a villain.

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    • DZAV21 wrote:
      MARY POPPINS???!!!!........ NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Why not? They have Cruella after all

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    • According to Belle, there are only one thing standing in Rumbelle way to happiness: Rumple's power. 

      If Season 5 is actually the last one, I think Belle will ask Rumple to find a way to break the Dark One curse if he wants to save their relationship. 

      So, we'll see in present day how the last Dark One destroys the curse, and, in the flashback, how someone created the dark curse and became the first Dark One.


      By the way, I don't think they will go to Camelot.

      The ratings went down when they went to Neverland.... I think they learned the lesson. 

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      I have very little doubt that we will see Camelot next season (or at least before the series ends). There have been too many references going back to at least the second season (I don't remember any from season 1, but I could be wrong) not to have it.

      We also know that A & E have plans for something with Mulan, so assuming Jamie Chung becomes available, I would expect that.  And given the setup that was given for Mulan in S3, I would anticipate at least a little connection to Robin Hood to occur with that arc (at least in Present day).

      I think with Eion Bailey coming back in the back half of 4, we might get a full-on Pinnochio Episode (We've really only had the Monstro scene and Pinnochio turning into a real boy from the original story, there's a whole lot more), particularly if some of the guesses about the Blue Fairy hold true (with her knowing more than she lets on).

      At some point, we will get the Black Fairy (I'm getting less and less confident that Maleficent will be the Black Fairy, though time will tell). THis might tie into Blue's Backstory as well (and also include the Pinnochio story from above).

      And, at some point, we will get more details on the Dark One.

      That's more than enough right there for one season, and there is still plenty of material, so I don't see this ending after 5 seasons.

      Needing more Pinnocio backstory is a good point. Maybe The Peddler is Stromboli, it makes as much sense as anything else.

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      According to Belle, there are only one thing standing in Rumbelle way to happiness: Rumple's power. 

      If Season 5 is actually the last one, I think Belle will ask Rumple to find a way to break the Dark One curse if he wants to save their relationship. 

      So, we'll see in present day how the last Dark One destroys the curse, and, in the flashback, how someone created the dark curse and became the first Dark One.


      By the way, I don't think they will go to Camelot.

      The ratings went down when they went to Neverland.... I think they learned the lesson. 

      But that's easy though, all Belle would have to do is kiss Rumple, it almost worked in Skin Deep

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    • But they have kissed a lot of times since then.... 

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    • This is the  year  of dgging to learn who the auhor is .  I have no idea who it might be but I can tell you who I would like it to be.  For many many years there has been a mystery surrounding  the true writers of hundreds of fairy tales and nursery ryhyms . Many of them point to woman called Mother Goose.

      The mystery is , who is she, when were they actually written and how many of them did she actually write. Stories from as far back as the 1500s all the way to the 1700's. Some have even magicalized her as  an old woman who actually flew on a gosse, flying into fom one era of time to another.  I think it'd be cool  to see OUAT develope a classic character like that. While I'd love to see that I'd really be surprised to see OUAT oo that deep.

      Mulan hmmm ... never quite got the "joining with the merry men" thing. Mulan is a not really a follower like that. She's more of a lead warrior. What would be cool and real outlandish , since she assumedly is still in the Enchanted forest , is to see her some kind of weird way morph ,through a curse,  into the evil Morgana  from King Arthur , Camelot  , and the Merlin stories. In one of the movies I'm pretty sure  Morgana and her brother ultimately went to war  against King Arthur  to conquer Camelot. Thats right up Mulans ally

      Just like in the movie there could be  be a huge final battle between good and evil . Since Rumple is so hell bent on being the Head huncho, he could call in Morgana and she could use her magic and call in all the evil from Arendale, and all the wicked witches and other evil characters  from all the storeis and then Charming and Snow could call in King Arthur, Lancelot, Robin Hood (who intially was a warrior before he turned to theif)  and ultimately Merlin. Wooooe !! He too was know as the most powerful  magiian of all time but only good To  me that would be awesome finale !!

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    • Mother Goose? Nice idea. i kinda wanna see a Once version of Santa Claus myself. The show's been on four years and it'd be nice to see at least one holiday ep.

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    • Regina's centric episode seems like it's gonna be a Mothers' Day episode.

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    • Tails-make-the-fox wrote:
      Regina's centric episode seems like it's gonna be a Mothers' Day episode.

      The OUaT season finales are usually the Mother's Day episodes..

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    • Umm... no. Specially since it's entitled "Mother" it's probably a centric for Regina when Cora was still alive.

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    • Avatar Beta wrote:
      Mother Goose? Nice idea. i kinda wanna see a Once version of Santa Claus myself. The show's been on four years and it'd be nice to see at least one holiday ep.

      I always wanted to see A Christmas Carol adapted for that

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    • Anubis16 wrote:
      Avatar Beta wrote:
      Mother Goose? Nice idea. i kinda wanna see a Once version of Santa Claus myself. The show's been on four years and it'd be nice to see at least one holiday ep.
      I always wanted to see A Christmas Carol adapted for that


      OH! Rumple as Scrooge, Killian as Past, Henry as Present, Regina as Future...

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    • 8Rob wrote:
      According to Belle, there are only one thing standing in Rumbelle way to happiness: Rumple's power. 

      If Season 5 is actually the last one, I think Belle will ask Rumple to find a way to break the Dark One curse if he wants to save their relationship. 

      So, we'll see in present day how the last Dark One destroys the curse, and, in the flashback, how someone created the dark curse and became the first Dark One.


      By the way, I don't think they will go to Camelot.

      The ratings went down when they went to Neverland.... I think they learned the lesson. 


      I think if they do anything with Camelot, they won't actually go there. They will incorporate things from Camelot into Storybrooke events and bring in characters, and show flashbacks to it. But I don't think they'll actually go to it. It would be like Oz - flashbacks, but no venturing into it.

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    • Avatar Beta wrote:
      Mother Goose? Nice idea. i kinda wanna see a Once version of Santa Claus myself. The show's been on four years and it'd be nice to see at least one holiday ep.

      We had Frankenstein around Halloween in Season 2.

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    • The majority of us seem to want to see the Camelot characters in . When Lancelot came in I was pretty sure they were going to do it but then they killed him off. Well .... atleast Cora said she killed him. We never saw him laid out so he could still be  living.

      What if ....  there was this big final battle that did involve all these good characters like Charming, Snow, Robin Hood, King Arthur ,Galahad and Merlin , fighting againist all those evil characters like Rumple, Morgana/Morgan Lafrey, George the evil King from Enchanted  Forest. Well in final battle of the Camelot story , there is a lot of blood shed  and the  good guy King Arthur and many of the good guys die even with Merlin.

      Lets say that was the last story the Mother Goose character wrote and seeing it didnt have a happy ending, Belle in searching for the writer learns the Mother Goose character had flown away to another relm to retire. Regina then creates a spell that allows her to locate Mother Goose to see if she can rewrite the story with a happy ending.  Mother Goose rewrites the story and with it rewrites Regina's happy ending and then reveals she did because she is Reginas grandmother,

      And they all lived happily ever after.     LOL

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    • I hope Rumple gets a happy ending.

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    • I would love for the entire season 5 to be centered on Camelot with Morgan Le Fay and Madam Mim as villains. I like the idea many people are conjuring about the whole Sorcerer/Author plot leading to Camelot, especially if Merlin really is the sorcerer (I guess he's taking Yen Sid's place a la Rumple and the original Beast). Throughout the show whenever Camelot, the lady of the lake or the sword is mentioned, Arthur's name never pops up (Merlin was hinted at by Charming), even on the Lancelot episode in S2, mention was made of the round table, but never Arthur, or even a hint. This leads me to believe that something went terribly wrong during the fallout of Arthur's story in the EF. There has to be a reason why Camelot has been mentioned in sprinkles throughout the show without so much as a hint of Arthur Robin Hood  and maybe Charming could be the only ones to have a connection to Arthur.

      It's a stretch, but I think it would be really cool if Arthur lives in the LWM. . Much like Neal ended up here, but he doesn't know who he is. Sometime during his reign, Morgan Le Fay cursed him to LWM (if she is the original Dark One, she would have powers beyond the dagger given that its magic isn't from the EF) without his memories and with a new life. Much of the season could be a wild goose chase to find Arthur, bring him to Storybrooke and convince him that he is King Arthur of the original legend. He'll somehow end up believing through Henry. Make Excalibur a tool of magic that only works through Arthur.

      Otherwise, I think it would be an interesting route to take if someone from Whale's world like Dracula or Mr. Hyde becomes the villain of the second half, if next season will be split into two again. I'd love to see A&E explore classic European literature, bring in the Wolfman, Sweeney Todd, etc. It'll give the show a breath of fresh air.

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    • Avatar Beta wrote: I hope Rumple gets a happy ending.

      If he's the villain for the whole of season 4 like Adam and Eddy said he was, then I want him to have to wait a little while for his happy ending.

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    • Baba Yaga please!

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    • Rwo

      Wow, I don't get all the deal with Camelot. Is the source material really that entertaining?

      I'd rather see a season 5 where all the EF's chronology is rewritten again. They all have to choose to redo or not their mistakes, or their life in Storybrooke will somehow drastically change by the end of season 4.

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    • Rwo wrote:
      Wow, I don't get all the deal with Camelot. Is the source material really that entertaining?

      I'd rather see a season 5 were all the EF's chronology is rewritten again. They all have to choose to redo or not their mistakes, or their life in Storybrooke will somehow drastically change by the end of season 4.

      I think why everybody wants Camelot is that we've had references since the 3rd episode of Season 2, with Lancelot. With that much lead up, they really need to finish the story. So, for me at least, it's less about really enjoying Arthurian legend, and more about they starting something and I want them to finish it. I feel this way about Cinderella, Aladdin, and Mulan as well.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Rwo wrote:
      Wow, I don't get all the deal with Camelot. Is the source material really that entertaining?

      I'd rather see a season 5 were all the EF's chronology is rewritten again. They all have to choose to redo or not their mistakes, or their life in Storybrooke will somehow drastically change by the end of season 4.

      I think why everybody wants Camelot is that we've had references since the 3rd episode of Season 2, with Lancelot. With that much lead up, they really need to finish the story. So, for me at least, it's less about really enjoying Arthurian legend, and more about they starting something and I want them to finish it. I feel this way about Cinderella, Aladdin, and Mulan as well.



      I agree 100% with  Gryllian.

      The reason I believe there is such a fascination with the Camelot stories/movies is because  they bring to the the table all that OUAT brings with the Enchanted Forest and more. Better than Snow and Charming  you have a real (not made up) love triangle with drama between King Arthur, Guinivere and Lancelot. Seeing that, that love triangle was a huge part of the Lancelot legend, to bring him into the story and not even hint at it is almost crazy. He has a huge story . He was one of the  greatest warrior legends ever and they treated his story just like he was just a passerby. 

      Then you have this constant mention in OUAT that Rumplestiltskin is the most powerful sorceror ever who everyone fears,  which is only true,  as far as I know, in the OUAT  series. According to historic tales that title belongs to Merlin who is a GOOD sorceror. So to have the 2 together to finally see who is actually the most powerful would be historic. That showdown between the 2 would be the one not to miss. 

      Then theres is Morgan La Frey/Morgana who was set up to literally be born with magic in her blood, which is so different than both Cora and Regina and Zelena who were merely taught magic.  Which makes her more powerful than them all. 

      One Camelot story gives us a flying dragon who has been around for ages and counsels the greats. To me it would be a perfect fit. Whats really different about it is that, usually in a story like this, the good guy wins and lives, but not in all the Camelot stories. Oh ....and in one of the Camelot stories Merlin is found walking around in OUR day and time telling the stories. Whats really interesting is that there still is a debate today over if Camelot is real or just fantasy. If OUAT could get the right writers they could even end it with people wondering in their minds

      So I guess its obvious that I'm a fairy tale fanatic 

      I'm with Gryllian. If there was a way they could find that King Arthur came over in the curse was here and in someway was maybe locked away and Charming found him (because they were probably friends) that would work. Arthur could someway get in touch with Merlin to use his magic and bring in the dragon to help them in their troubles with the evil ones , Rumple, Zelena, and now Cruella, Ursella and Malificent. That'd make for some great fights of magic. 

      Knowing that according to the book Arthur dies, maybe Belle and Henry could set off to find the author to change the ending. While searching Regina uses her powers to help Merlin summon the knights of the round table to help, some which are dead . In learning this she finds Robin to get him come to join in their army.  Marienne thinks its something more and consults with Cruella, Ursella and Malificent  who conspire with her to take down Regina. Robin learns of it and runs away with Regina to prepare for the big battle and ...its on. It'd make for a much better fight  than those they've had with Granny, Red,  a few fairys and 7 dwarfs, LOL

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    • Rwo

      BroKarl wrote:Oh ....and in one of the Camelot stories Merlin is found walking around in OUR day and time telling the stories. Whats really interesting is that there still is a debate today over if Camelot is real or just fantasy. If OUAT could get the right writers they could even end it with people wondering in their minds

      Hum... How the #### someone back in the XII century imagined Merlin in our day???

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    • Rwo wrote:

      BroKarl wrote:Oh ....and in one of the Camelot stories Merlin is found walking around in OUR day and time telling the stories. Whats really interesting is that there still is a debate today over if Camelot is real or just fantasy. If OUAT could get the right writers they could even end it with people wondering in their minds

      Hum... How the #### someone back in the XII century imagined Merlin in our day???

      No the debate is not about Merlin , Historians today debate whether King Arthur was real or just a myth from that time period.

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    • BroKarl wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Rwo wrote:
      Wow, I don't get all the deal with Camelot. Is the source material really that entertaining?

      I'd rather see a season 5 were all the EF's chronology is rewritten again. They all have to choose to redo or not their mistakes, or their life in Storybrooke will somehow drastically change by the end of season 4.

      I think why everybody wants Camelot is that we've had references since the 3rd episode of Season 2, with Lancelot. With that much lead up, they really need to finish the story. So, for me at least, it's less about really enjoying Arthurian legend, and more about they starting something and I want them to finish it. I feel this way about Cinderella, Aladdin, and Mulan as well.


      I agree 100% with  Gryllian.

      The reason I believe there is such a fascination with the Camelot stories/movies is because  they bring to the the table all that OUAT brings with the Enchanted Forest and more. Better than Snow and Charming  you have a real (not made up) love triangle with drama between King Arthur, Guinivere and Lancelot. Seeing that, that love triangle was a huge part of the Lancelot legend, to bring him into the story and not even hint at it is almost crazy. He has a huge story . He was one of the  greatest warrior legends ever and they treated his story just like he was just a passerby. 

      Then you have this constant mention in OUAT that Rumplestiltskin is the most powerful sorceror ever who everyone fears,  which is only true,  as far as I know, in the OUAT  series. According to historic tales that title belongs to Merlin who is a GOOD sorceror. So to have the 2 together to finally see who is actually the most powerful would be historic. That showdown between the 2 would be the one not to miss. 

      Then theres is Morgan La Frey/Morgana who was set up to literally be born with magic in her blood, which is so different than both Cora and Regina and Zelena who were merely taught magic.  Which makes her more powerful than them all. 

      One Camelot story gives us a flying dragon who has been around for ages and counsels the greats. To me it would be a perfect fit. Whats really different about it is that, usually in a story like this, the good guy wins and lives, but not in all the Camelot stories. Oh ....and in one of the Camelot stories Merlin is found walking around in OUR day and time telling the stories. Whats really interesting is that there still is a debate today over if Camelot is real or just fantasy. If OUAT could get the right writers they could even end it with people wondering in their minds

      So I guess its obvious that I'm a fairy tale fanatic 

      I'm with Gryllian. If there was a way they could find that King Arthur came over in the curse was here and in someway was maybe locked away and Charming found him (because they were probably friends) that would work. Arthur could someway get in touch with Merlin to use his magic and bring in the dragon to help them in their troubles with the evil ones , Rumple, Zelena, and now Cruella, Ursella and Malificent. That'd make for some great fights of magic. 

      Knowing that according to the book Arthur dies, maybe Belle and Henry could set off to find the author to change the ending. While searching Regina uses her powers to help Merlin summon the knights of the round table to help, some which are dead . In learning this she finds Robin to get him come to join in their army.  Marienne thinks its something more and consults with Cruella, Ursella and Malificent  who conspire with her to take down Regina. Robin learns of it and runs away with Regina to prepare for the big battle and ...its on. It'd make for a much better fight  than those they've had with Granny, Red,  a few fairys and 7 dwarfs, LOL


      They can't have the whole Camelot story and still focus on the original characters. People here are totally demoting Emma from being a lead and giving it to Arthur. It sounds to me like people want a Camelot series more than they want it on Once Upon A Time.

      They have references to the story because it is still a story, a legend. I don't think those references were supposed to lead to some big arc. I just don't see how they can pull that off without firing all the main cast...

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    • Rwo

      You missed the point BroKarl.

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    • Rwo wrote:
      You missed the point BroKarl.


      OK .... was there a joke to it or something, what did'nt  I get. If its something  that I probaly did'nt get and you want me to , feel free. As I've said before I can get things twisted from time to time 

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    • Also if they do the Camelot storyline for season 5, then I think they should cast Vanessa Williams as Morgana La Fey

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    • Rwo

      BroKarl wrote:

      Rwo wrote:
      You missed the point BroKarl.

      OK .... was there a joke to it or something, what did'nt  I get. If its something  that I probaly did'nt get and you want me to , feel free. As I've said before I can get things twisted from time to time 

      I was underlining the "Merlin walking around in OUR day and time telling the stories" thing. And it's like you deliberately chose to ignore that nonsense of yours.

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    • Farerb wrote:
      BroKarl wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Rwo wrote:
      Wow, I don't get all the deal with Camelot. Is the source material really that entertaining?

      I'd rather see a season 5 were all the EF's chronology is rewritten again. They all have to choose to redo or not their mistakes, or their life in Storybrooke will somehow drastically change by the end of season 4.

      I think why everybody wants Camelot is that we've had references since the 3rd episode of Season 2, with Lancelot. With that much lead up, they really need to finish the story. So, for me at least, it's less about really enjoying Arthurian legend, and more about they starting something and I want them to finish it. I feel this way about Cinderella, Aladdin, and Mulan as well.


      I agree 100% with  Gryllian.

      The reason I believe there is such a fascination with the Camelot stories/movies is because  they bring to the the table all that OUAT brings with the Enchanted Forest and more. Better than Snow and Charming  you have a real (not made up) love triangle with drama between King Arthur, Guinivere and Lancelot. Seeing that, that love triangle was a huge part of the Lancelot legend, to bring him into the story and not even hint at it is almost crazy. He has a huge story . He was one of the  greatest warrior legends ever and they treated his story just like he was just a passerby. 

      Then you have this constant mention in OUAT that Rumplestiltskin is the most powerful sorceror ever who everyone fears,  which is only true,  as far as I know, in the OUAT  series. According to historic tales that title belongs to Merlin who is a GOOD sorceror. So to have the 2 together to finally see who is actually the most powerful would be historic. That showdown between the 2 would be the one not to miss. 

      Then theres is Morgan La Frey/Morgana who was set up to literally be born with magic in her blood, which is so different than both Cora and Regina and Zelena who were merely taught magic.  Which makes her more powerful than them all. 

      One Camelot story gives us a flying dragon who has been around for ages and counsels the greats. To me it would be a perfect fit. Whats really different about it is that, usually in a story like this, the good guy wins and lives, but not in all the Camelot stories. Oh ....and in one of the Camelot stories Merlin is found walking around in OUR day and time telling the stories. Whats really interesting is that there still is a debate today over if Camelot is real or just fantasy. If OUAT could get the right writers they could even end it with people wondering in their minds

      So I guess its obvious that I'm a fairy tale fanatic 

      I'm with Gryllian. If there was a way they could find that King Arthur came over in the curse was here and in someway was maybe locked away and Charming found him (because they were probably friends) that would work. Arthur could someway get in touch with Merlin to use his magic and bring in the dragon to help them in their troubles with the evil ones , Rumple, Zelena, and now Cruella, Ursella and Malificent. That'd make for some great fights of magic. 

      Knowing that according to the book Arthur dies, maybe Belle and Henry could set off to find the author to change the ending. While searching Regina uses her powers to help Merlin summon the knights of the round table to help, some which are dead . In learning this she finds Robin to get him come to join in their army.  Marienne thinks its something more and consults with Cruella, Ursella and Malificent  who conspire with her to take down Regina. Robin learns of it and runs away with Regina to prepare for the big battle and ...its on. It'd make for a much better fight  than those they've had with Granny, Red,  a few fairys and 7 dwarfs, LOL


      They can't have the whole Camelot story and still focus on the original characters. People here are totally demoting Emma from being a lead and giving it to Arthur. It sounds to me like people want a Camelot series more than they want it on Once Upon A Time.

      They have references to the story because it is still a story, a legend. I don't think those references were supposed to lead to some big arc. I just don't see how they can pull that off without firing all the main cast...

      It's no different than any other arc, so I don't know why you don't think it can happen. We just need 5 characters basically: Arthur, Gwenivere, Lancelot, Merlin, and Morgan. It's very do-able, while still focusing on the core cast.

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    • MyPretties wrote:
      Also if they do the Camelot storyline for season 5, then I think they should cast Vanessa Williams as Morgana La Fey


      The women who sang Colors Of The Wind for Pocohantas, singing Mordred's Lullaby????

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    • Bgwinstonfc30 wrote:
      8Rob wrote:
      According to Belle, there are only one thing standing in Rumbelle way to happiness: Rumple's power. 

      If Season 5 is actually the last one, I think Belle will ask Rumple to find a way to break the Dark One curse if he wants to save their relationship. 

      So, we'll see in present day how the last Dark One destroys the curse, and, in the flashback, how someone created the dark curse and became the first Dark One.


      By the way, I don't think they will go to Camelot.

      The ratings went down when they went to Neverland.... I think they learned the lesson. 


      I think if they do anything with Camelot, they won't actually go there. They will incorporate things from Camelot into Storybrooke events and bring in characters, and show flashbacks to it. But I don't think they'll actually go to it. It would be like Oz - flashbacks, but no venturing into it.


      I really really like that idea of seeing how the first dark one came into being.

      And if they do a "Camelot" like you said , it really wont be necessary that they actually go to Camelot. There is so much from the Camelot stories that they can borrow from to kick up the drama an excietment that going there wouldnt be necessary. I do think though that Charming and Snow and Emma need the likes of atleast Merlin to battle some of the evils they are challenged with, He is good so he brings light magic

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    • MyPretties wrote:
      Also if they do the Camelot storyline for season 5, then I think they should cast Vanessa Williams as Morgana La Fey


      Vanessa. Wow!! I would have never even thought of her but I can really see that. Shes a Regina type. It'd be great to see her and Regina go at it. Only thing is ,Vansessa may be a little old for it. That'd make some great drama though.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Farerb wrote:
      BroKarl wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Rwo wrote:
      Wow, I don't get all the deal with Camelot. Is the source material really that entertaining?

      I'd rather see a season 5 were all the EF's chronology is rewritten again. They all have to choose to redo or not their mistakes, or their life in Storybrooke will somehow drastically change by the end of season 4.

      I think why everybody wants Camelot is that we've had references since the 3rd episode of Season 2, with Lancelot. With that much lead up, they really need to finish the story. So, for me at least, it's less about really enjoying Arthurian legend, and more about they starting something and I want them to finish it. I feel this way about Cinderella, Aladdin, and Mulan as well.

      I agree 100% with  Gryllian.

      The reason I believe there is such a fascination with the Camelot stories/movies is because  they bring to the the table all that OUAT brings with the Enchanted Forest and more. Better than Snow and Charming  you have a real (not made up) love triangle with drama between King Arthur, Guinivere and Lancelot. Seeing that, that love triangle was a huge part of the Lancelot legend, to bring him into the story and not even hint at it is almost crazy. He has a huge story . He was one of the  greatest warrior legends ever and they treated his story just like he was just a passerby. 

      Then you have this constant mention in OUAT that Rumplestiltskin is the most powerful sorceror ever who everyone fears,  which is only true,  as far as I know, in the OUAT  series. According to historic tales that title belongs to Merlin who is a GOOD sorceror. So to have the 2 together to finally see who is actually the most powerful would be historic. That showdown between the 2 would be the one not to miss. 

      Then theres is Morgan La Frey/Morgana who was set up to literally be born with magic in her blood, which is so different than both Cora and Regina and Zelena who were merely taught magic.  Which makes her more powerful than them all. 

      One Camelot story gives us a flying dragon who has been around for ages and counsels the greats. To me it would be a perfect fit. Whats really different about it is that, usually in a story like this, the good guy wins and lives, but not in all the Camelot stories. Oh ....and in one of the Camelot stories Merlin is found walking around in OUR day and time telling the stories. Whats really interesting is that there still is a debate today over if Camelot is real or just fantasy. If OUAT could get the right writers they could even end it with people wondering in their minds

      So I guess its obvious that I'm a fairy tale fanatic 

      I'm with Gryllian. If there was a way they could find that King Arthur came over in the curse was here and in someway was maybe locked away and Charming found him (because they were probably friends) that would work. Arthur could someway get in touch with Merlin to use his magic and bring in the dragon to help them in their troubles with the evil ones , Rumple, Zelena, and now Cruella, Ursella and Malificent. That'd make for some great fights of magic. 

      Knowing that according to the book Arthur dies, maybe Belle and Henry could set off to find the author to change the ending. While searching Regina uses her powers to help Merlin summon the knights of the round table to help, some which are dead . In learning this she finds Robin to get him come to join in their army.  Marienne thinks its something more and consults with Cruella, Ursella and Malificent  who conspire with her to take down Regina. Robin learns of it and runs away with Regina to prepare for the big battle and ...its on. It'd make for a much better fight  than those they've had with Granny, Red,  a few fairys and 7 dwarfs, LOL


      They can't have the whole Camelot story and still focus on the original characters. People here are totally demoting Emma from being a lead and giving it to Arthur. It sounds to me like people want a Camelot series more than they want it on Once Upon A Time.

      They have references to the story because it is still a story, a legend. I don't think those references were supposed to lead to some big arc. I just don't see how they can pull that off without firing all the main cast...

      It's no different than any other arc, so I don't know why you don't think it can happen. We just need 5 characters basically: Arthur, Gwenivere, Lancelot, Merlin, and Morgan. It's very do-able, while still focusing on the core cast.


      Absolutely !! I mean .... they bring in strong character every season and their main charcter are never over shadowed. In Neverland that brought in Peter Pan, The Shadow, Tinkerbell , Wendy, her two brothers, the lost boys and Hook was already there. Thats more than 5 characters and those guys didnt overshadow the main characters . The new charcters were added made their contributions ti the story and are now are no longer there and the main characters are stronger than ever now.

      I agree. Those 5 characters mentioned are all that would be needed, and then may be the knights of the round table who would be no more than Reginas knights. These writers know how to bring in strong characters without overshadowing the characters they have.

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    • they could continue the wonderland story , we don't know what happened to the red queen , and i would like more cinderella characters. like drizella

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    • Rwo wrote:

      BroKarl wrote:

      Rwo wrote:
      You missed the point BroKarl.

      OK .... was there a joke to it or something, what did'nt  I get. If its something  that I probaly did'nt get and you want me to , feel free. As I've said before I can get things twisted from time to time 

      I was underlining the "Merlin walking around in OUR day and time telling the stories" thing. And it's like you deliberately chose to ignore that nonsense of yours.


      Maybe Im still not getting it.  I saw a  show that showed Merlin in  our day and time. I think it was the TV show "Merlin".  Why is that nonsense when we are talking about a show with an evil queen, a poisen apple and 7 dwarfs and fairies that are living in our day and time. Don't answer. that. Its not that serious. We're all just fantascizing about things we'd like to see in a fairy tale . Not things we want to see in real life. It just fantasy. 

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    • Rwo

      You were making an all speech about bringing Camelot cast and stories on OUAT, and out of nowhere, you wrote, "in one of the Camelot stories blah-blah Merlin blah our day and time". That absolutely made no freakin sense. You didn't introduce the tv-adaptation thing

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    • Rwo wrote:
      You were making an all speech about bringing Camelot cast and stories on OUAT, and out of nowhere, you wrote, "in one of the Camelot stories blah-blah Merlin blah our day and time". That absolutely made no freakin sense. You didn't introduce the tv-adaptation thing


      Sorry.  It was already a very long post. Adding more detail  would have just made it longer. But thanks for letting me know.


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    • Jerome mills wrote:
      they could continue the wonderland story , we don't know what happened to the red queen , and i would like more cinderella characters. like drizella


      I  agree. I really liked that show. In my opinion I'd be much more interested in seeing things about the classic fairy tale characters  then I would charcters like  Cruella, Elsa and Anna.  I'm not a kid nor do I have any kids so when I saw Elsa and Anna and the whole snow gueen thing I had no idea who these charcters were 


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    • BroKarl wrote:
      Jerome mills wrote:
      they could continue the wonderland story , we don't know what happened to the red queen , and i would like more cinderella characters. like drizella

      I  agree. I really liked that show. In my opinion I'd be much more interested in seeing things about the classic fairy tale characters  then I would charcters like  Cruella, Elsa and Anna.  I'm not a kid nor do I have any kids so when I saw Elsa and Anna and the whole snow gueen thing I had no idea who these charcters were 


      The Snow Queen actually is a classic fairy tale though. Disney wanted to adapt it for a long time, it just kept getting shelved. They we're finally able to figure it out with Frozen, although they took a lot of liberties. But that's why what Once did was so great, they incorporated Frozen and the original story together.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:

      BroKarl wrote:
      Jerome mills wrote:
      they could continue the wonderland story , we don't know what happened to the red queen , and i would like more cinderella characters. like drizella

      I  agree. I really liked that show. In my opinion I'd be much more interested in seeing things about the classic fairy tale characters  then I would charcters like  Cruella, Elsa and Anna.  I'm not a kid nor do I have any kids so when I saw Elsa and Anna and the whole snow gueen thing I had no idea who these charcters were 


      The Snow Queen actually is a classic fairy tale though. Disney wanted to adapt it for a long time, it just kept getting shelved. They we're finally able to figure it out with Frozen, although they took a lot of liberties. But that's why what Once did was so great, they incorporated Frozen and the original story together.

      I think Frozen was 95% liberties and 5% source material.

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    • MyPretties wrote:

      CoolDudeAl wrote:

      BroKarl wrote:
      Jerome mills wrote:
      they could continue the wonderland story , we don't know what happened to the red queen , and i would like more cinderella characters. like drizella

      I  agree. I really liked that show. In my opinion I'd be much more interested in seeing things about the classic fairy tale characters  then I would charcters like  Cruella, Elsa and Anna.  I'm not a kid nor do I have any kids so when I saw Elsa and Anna and the whole snow gueen thing I had no idea who these charcters were 


      The Snow Queen actually is a classic fairy tale though. Disney wanted to adapt it for a long time, it just kept getting shelved. They we're finally able to figure it out with Frozen, although they took a lot of liberties. But that's why what Once did was so great, they incorporated Frozen and the original story together.
      I think Frozen was 95% liberties and 5% source material.

      Yes, it was a pretty liberal inturpitation, but an inturpitation nonetheless.

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    • These aren't predictions. They're hopes.

      Aside from confirmed Mulan backstory, I hope for:

      - Returning appearances from beloved minor characters like Red, Huntsman, Jiminy, Henry Sr., Frankenstein, Jefferson, Cinderella, Tinkerbell.

      - I strangely want more Hansel and Gretel, I think they're the only characters of the day in season 1 to never reappear (aside from Rapunzel in season 3 LOL)

      - I want to know what the hell happened to Anastasia.

      - I want more Daniel. All we know is Regina loved him, we know nothing about HIM.

      - I want clarification on where the Darling children ended up. We all assumed they left Storybrooke, but with Pan's death and Regina's reversing of the Curse, John and Michael should've DIED due to being well over 100 years old and Wendy should've lost all her memories of the past 150 years, and probably get into a car accident as her brothers turned to dust. I hope all three are still in Storybrooke, honestly.

      - I want more of Walsh, Dorothy, Glinda. Zelena's story was very rushed. We didn't get any of these classic characters, nor was it ever confirmed if Walsh was truly dead (Emma sure seemed to think so...)

      I want a lot of loose ends to be tied up, and that might never happen. A&E have straight up said that they have more stories than they'll ever be able to tell on-screen.

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    • Well, we'll see Oz again this season but probably not those characters. You're right though, more Dorothy and classic Oz characters would be nice. 

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    • There are other fairy tales they can start including like the Princess and the Frog, the Princess and the Pea with the pea being a magical item, Aladdin, Sinbad, Thumbelina (they already have miniature characters like Blue Fairy), the Nixie of the mill-pond in addition to what everyone else said

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      These aren't predictions. They're hopes.

      Aside from confirmed Mulan backstory, I hope for:

      - Returning appearances from beloved minor characters like Red, Huntsman, Jiminy, Henry Sr., Frankenstein, Jefferson, Cinderella, Tinkerbell.

      We will get probably get some of these characters next season, but others, like Huntsman and Jefferson, are going to be almost impossible to get, due to the actors commitments to other things.

      - I strangely want more Hansel and Gretel, I think they're the only characters of the day in season 1 to never reappear (aside from Rapunzel in season 3 LOL)

      I wouldn't mind more Hansel and Gretel (or more Rapunzel), but I wouldn't hold my breath for either.

      - I want to know what the hell happened to Anastasia.

      Hopefully that gets answered this season, and we don't have to wait until season 5.

      - I want more Daniel. All we know is Regina loved him, we know nothing about HIM.

      I hate to say this, but Daniel is not important enough to learn more about him. His whole point was to be Regina's first love that Cora killed because Snow told Cora about him and Regina, thus starting Regina down the long dark path of revenge on Snow. Daniel, in and of himself, is what you saw, a simple poor stable boy. There is nothing else to tell.

      - I want clarification on where the Darling children ended up. We all assumed they left Storybrooke, but with Pan's death and Regina's reversing of the Curse, John and Michael should've DIED due to being well over 100 years old and Wendy should've lost all her memories of the past 150 years, and probably get into a car accident as her brothers turned to dust. I hope all three are still in Storybrooke, honestly.

      I feel like they gave the Darlings their happy ending, and are likely to never come up again.

      - I want more of Walsh, Dorothy, Glinda. Zelena's story was very rushed. We didn't get any of these classic characters, nor was it ever confirmed if Walsh was truly dead (Emma sure seemed to think so...)

      This on the other hand, is much more likely to come up, since Zelena's story is appearently not over.

      I want a lot of loose ends to be tied up, and that might never happen. A&E have straight up said that they have more stories than they'll ever be able to tell on-screen.

      Comments in bold above.

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    • I like to see what actually happened to Belle's mother, Colette

      We didn't see her body, did we ?

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      BroKarl wrote:
      Jerome mills wrote:
      they could continue the wonderland story , we don't know what happened to the red queen , and i would like more cinderella characters. like drizella

      I  agree. I really liked that show. In my opinion I'd be much more interested in seeing things about the classic fairy tale characters  then I would charcters like  Cruella, Elsa and Anna.  I'm not a kid nor do I have any kids so when I saw Elsa and Anna and the whole snow gueen thing I had no idea who these charcters were 


      The Snow Queen actually is a classic fairy tale though. Disney wanted to adapt it for a long time, it just kept getting shelved. They we're finally able to figure it out with Frozen, although they took a lot of liberties. But that's why what Once did was so great, they incorporated Frozen and the original story together.


      Let me correct myself. I never saw Frozen so I had never heard of Elsa and Anna but I do have a very very faint memory of seeing a black and white movie about a very mean Snow Queen. Whether it was Disney or not I couldn't tell you.  

      Whats in my memory is... it was about a brother and sister who were playing, and a huge snow storm came and took the little boy away to a Snow Queens palace. If I am remembering correctlty the Snow Oueen took the boy because she was very lonely and while at her palace he begin to freeze but his sister some kind of way found a way  there and saved him. So I'd say OUAT was a liitlle close to the story. Their Snow Queen was kind of lonely which is why she sought out Emma.

      As a kid, a lot of the movies they made of fairy tales were very scarey to me. Especially Snow White and the 7 dwarfs. I remember it being very dark and seeing an old ugly witch meeting Snow White in a dark forest where she gave snow the apple. I definitely dont remember seeing any one it as beautiful and as sassy as Regina. I really like the new touch OUAT gives to these tales.

      I don't  know if I could ever get use to a chuncky fat face Snow White though. She was great before the baby. Now  everytime they show her with long hair now her hair always looks a mess. May be they are doing it so that she looks more motherly than like a beautiful Queen.

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    • interesting idea based on the final show down presented earlier in this post:

      we know that the author exists, but hasn't been seen in a long time so what if mulan's sword is excalabur, leading to Merlin as the sorceror. However, the characters find out who the author...was...but died. That is also why the book is no longer being added to and all the blank books are left behind. Jafar comes in mid season 5 as a genie and wants to lift the storybrook magic sphere with the idea of being able to concur the modern "real world," or land without magic. Because the villians learn that the author is no longer around, fate now lies in the individual choices the characters make. They realize that they now have unbiased hope for their "happy endings" and decide to team up with all the villians and jafar in concuring the world. The heroes have to team up for a final showdown of good vs. evil.

      (i don't think they would actually kill off the author, but it would be an interesting plot twist. and knowing this show, they love throwing in massive curve balls). Thoughts?

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    • I think that this season, we will find out who is the author, but if they can change the book or not is for next season

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    • I honestly don't care who the author is, just so long as he's not like that creator in the second Matrix movie who never shuts up...

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    • Theauthorforsure wrote:
      interesting idea based on the final show down presented earlier in this post:

      we know that the author exists, but hasn't been seen in a long time so what if mulan's sword is excalabur, leading to Merlin as the sorceror. However, the characters find out who the author...was...but died. That is also why the book is no longer being added to and all the blank books are left behind. Jafar comes in mid season 5 as a genie and wants to lift the storybrook magic sphere with the idea of being able to concur the modern "real world," or land without magic. Because the villians learn that the author is no longer around, fate now lies in the individual choices the characters make. They realize that they now have unbiased hope for their "happy endings" and decide to team up with all the villians and jafar in concuring the world. The heroes have to team up for a final showdown of good vs. evil.

      (i don't think they would actually kill off the author, but it would be an interesting plot twist. and knowing this show, they love throwing in massive curve balls). Thoughts?

      I have a theory about who the author might be, who it appears has died (as you suggest) but might not have. I posted it on another site before  I read you guess. Rather than rewrite the whole thing I'll just leave the link and if anyone is interested they can check it out.    

      http://onceuponatime.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:203180

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    • BroKarl wrote:
      Theauthorforsure wrote:
      interesting idea based on the final show down presented earlier in this post:

      we know that the author exists, but hasn't been seen in a long time so what if mulan's sword is excalabur, leading to Merlin as the sorceror. However, the characters find out who the author...was...but died. That is also why the book is no longer being added to and all the blank books are left behind. Jafar comes in mid season 5 as a genie and wants to lift the storybrook magic sphere with the idea of being able to concur the modern "real world," or land without magic. Because the villians learn that the author is no longer around, fate now lies in the individual choices the characters make. They realize that they now have unbiased hope for their "happy endings" and decide to team up with all the villians and jafar in concuring the world. The heroes have to team up for a final showdown of good vs. evil.

      (i don't think they would actually kill off the author, but it would be an interesting plot twist. and knowing this show, they love throwing in massive curve balls). Thoughts?

      I have a theory about who the author might be, who it appears has died (as you suggest) but might not have. I posted it on another site before  I read you guess. Rather than rewrite the whole thing I'll just leave the link and if anyone is interested they can check it out.    

      http://onceuponatime.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:203180

      Colette being the author is a definite possiblility. We know she likes books, we didn't see a body, Blue said the author hasn't been seen in a long time, and it seems odd to me they would cast Belle's mom for what was ultimatly a very small scene, if they didn't have a plan for the actress at a later time.

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    • Sorry I didn't read all these posts xD. Anyway my hopes/predictions for season 5.

      The end of Season 4 will conclude with the redemption of at least Maleficent and hopefully the other villains as well, except for Rumplestiltskin. They finally find out who the Sorcerer is and through him have to find the Author. The Sorcerer appears to be Merlin and the main cast along with some others travel to Camelot. Gold going there for his own plans with the Author.

      I would like this arc to be one that has one main antagonist throughout the whole season, her being Morgana. She is accompanied by the Headless Horseman who formerly was a member of the Round Table (then known as Ichabod Crane) but was decapicated in a mission to  Wonderland by Cora. And he would also have a backstory with Will. Talking about Will. We will have more backstories of him during his time as Knave, and Ana will also appear.

      Morgana is the original Dark One, and somehow found a loophole to still be alive and has taken control over Camelot and has frozen Merlin on an unknown place.

      I hope the season to be constructed that way that we'll find more out about the characters who have been recurring on the show since season 1/2. I would give a bsckstory to two characters in each episode. One in Camelot and one of the recurring. And that their backstories somehow link together, or something.

      Characters I want to see more of: Red (as one of the main chars going to Camelot), Mulan (confirmed), Blue (when are we getting a backstory of her?), Tink (still want to know how she got to Neverland and her relationship with Hook), Dr. Whale (just some more of LWM would be nice, Dracula could make for a nice episode, although I don't see Vlad as a villain), Jefferson (when he's not busy, but dunno for what)

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    • DarKingdomHearts wrote:
      Sorry I didn't read all these posts xD. Anyway my hopes/predictions for season 5.

      The end of Season 4 will conclude with the redemption of at least Maleficent and hopefully the other villains as well, except for Rumplestiltskin. They finally find out who the Sorcerer is and through him have to find the Author. The Sorcerer appears to be Merlin and the main cast along with some others travel to Camelot. Gold going there for his own plans with the Author.

      I would like this arc to be one that has one main antagonist throughout the whole season, her being Morgana. She is accompanied by the Headless Horseman who formerly was a member of the Round Table (then known as Ichabod Crane) but was decapicated in a mission to  Wonderland by Cora. And he would also have a backstory with Will. Talking about Will. We will have more backstories of him during his time as Knave, and Ana will also appear.

      Morgana is the original Dark One, and somehow found a loophole to still be alive and has taken control over Camelot and has frozen Merlin on an unknown place.

      I hope the season to be constructed that way that we'll find more out about the characters who have been recurring on the show since season 1/2. I would give a bsckstory to two characters in each episode. One in Camelot and one of the recurring. And that their backstories somehow link together, or something.

      Characters I want to see more of: Red (as one of the main chars going to Camelot), Mulan (confirmed), Blue (when are we getting a backstory of her?), Tink (still want to know how she got to Neverland and her relationship with Hook), Dr. Whale (just some more of LWM would be nice, Dracula could make for a nice episode, although I don't see Vlad as a villain), Jefferson (when he's not busy, but dunno for what)


      A lot of this is what I would want in the next season, although I'm not sure if I want them to actually go to Camelot. I think they could do enough flashbacks to it and incorporate enough into Storybrooke that they wouldn't need to actually go there.

      Also, I like that Morgana could be the original Dark One, but I also have a theory that The Horned King from the Black Cauldron is the the original Dark One. Either one is good though.

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