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  • Hello everyone! I'm happy to let you know we now have a List of Deaths! I've done up to Season 1 Episode 9. Anybody who's willing to help out, that'd be appreciated! :D


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    • Cool page idea, but it will be tricky. After all, what are we considering a death on this show? Did the gnome in Episode 2 die when Regina turned him to stone? Did Philip die when the wraith stole his soul? Did the Blue Fairy die when The Shadow took her shadow? I could go on, but you get my point.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Cool page idea, but it will be tricky. After all, what are we considering a death on this show? Did the gnome in Episode 2 die when Regina turned him to stone? Did Philip die when the wraith stole his soul? Did the Blue Fairy die when The Shadow took her shadow? I could go on, but you get my point.

      Yeah, I think we could add "status". It would be "definitive" for cases such as Graham, Cora etc. "reversed" for Blue, Gold/Rumple, Charming etc. and "unclear" for transformation like Stephen and Donna, Gaston, The Gnome. What do you think?

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    • I think it would be nice to add "Last Words" parameter. Such as Cora's "You would have been enough" and Gold's "Villains don't get happy endings".

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    • Unclear for Gaston? Rumple turned him into a flower a Belle cut him in two parts. I don't think Gaston is unclear xD

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    • I will add the last words parameter and the Status parameter as well. Cool ideas! We could also have an image per death.

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    • I did make a video some time ago featuring the major death scenes of season 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zgGE2fJx_4

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    • Killian Jones wrote:
      I will add the last words parameter and the Status parameter as well. Cool ideas! We could also have an image per death.

      Sounds like a plan!

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    • Who suggested this idea, just out of curiosity? Was it Lady Junky? I bet it was.

      It seems very tricky and complicated to have such an unnecessary page, for a wide variety of reasons. First and foremost, the aforementioned reason that death isn't always permanent on this show, especially since season 3 and Wonderland: people keep dying left and right and being brought back to life (Rumple, Blue, Charming, Ana...), to the point where it's exhausting, but I digress. Then there are those characters we can't confirm as dead because we just don't know for sure. People thought Black Beard was dead for a long time, till he was confirmed to be alive in 409. Is Morraine dead? She probably is, since she existed maybe hundreds of years ago, but several characters have survived that long on this show, including her contemporaries Rumple and Bae. Is Greg dead? What about the Red King? Do you plan on imposing a rule that states a character HAS to be inarguably killed off? But then we go back to those characters who are resurrected after a while. Is it logical to include them and then remove them? Or to keep the characters on the list permanently because they DID die, even though they're not actually dead anymore? And if you include those non-permanent deaths, will you include a blurb that indicates they've been resurrected?

      Then there's the fact that so many characters that die are nameless and sometimes faceless extras. Are you really gonna keep track of every black knight that meets their maker? Another problem to consider is the chronological mess. You're ordering the deaths by episodic chronology, even though those demises didn't occur in that order, timeline-wise. And some deaths take place in the present day in an episode, some take place in flashbacks. You don't establish any sort of distinction between those.

      I think such an idea is a perhaps a bit narrow-sighted - we considered it for our own wiki and gave up on it because of how difficult it would be to make it happen -, but maybe I'm overcomplicating everything.

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    • Oh and then there's the bridge troll, who died in 1.03 and then again in 3.22 when the timeline was changed. Lol. So there's another problem, characters who are killed off twice, really. Sigh.

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    • Well in case of the Red King or characters like Morraine (who lived a long time ago) i think it's unknown. For characters that deaths are certain (like cora, tamara, mila and others) they can just put that they are dead. In the case of the gnome, i don't think he is dead. He was just turned into stone and we saw that you can undo a person who has been converted into stone (will scarlet ) or even frozen (ana, hand etc.) So the status of the gnome will be "converted into stone". I don't think it's that complicated.

      As for the page, I don't if is really necessary. You can see the status of a character (dead, alive, frozen etc.) at their page (in the infoboxes).

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    • ana, hans*

      don't know if is really*

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    • I understand its trivial interest. Of course we can see the status of the characters on their infoboxes, but lists sum up trivia by appropriate criteria. If someone is interested in knowing who has died on the show, they can't just go around looking up every character and finding their status. There's probably a "Deceased Characters" category of some sort, but still. I find that the idea itself is interesting (I loved the list of deaths on the Desperate Housewives wiki9, just not particularly feasible here.

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    • Thank you for your feedback. We can make the page work, and we will! :P

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    • Well, alright then. :) That's the spirit.

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    • We might want a note that says to roll over the picture for the last words. I just accidentally put my cursor over the picture and that's how I noticed it. Also, are we still doing a status column? I think it would be useful seeing how some deaths are not permanent or are ambiguous as to if it's a death.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote: We might want a note that says to roll over the picture for the last words. I just accidentally put my cursor over the picture and that's how I noticed it. Also, are we still doing a status column? I think it would be useful seeing how some deaths are not permanent or are ambiguous as to if it's a death.

      Yes to both questions :P

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    • I'm loving the page. It's nice to see all the killers in one place. I never knew how many Chamring had killed until know :)

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    • Archie's technical death :'( is he done :'( for the rest of the show?

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    • What?...

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    • Miwaandsplintergirl1 wrote:
      Archie's technical death :'( is he done :'( for the rest of the show?

      No, they are talking about fake Archie's death in Season 2.

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    • I don't think you should include archies fake death on the list? Whats the point? He is alive and that is what matters.

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    • D.Prince wrote:
      I don't think you should include archies fake death on the list? Whats the point? He is alive and that is what matters.

      Archie's alive, but whoever Cora killed and changed the body to look like Archie is dead. So a death still occured.

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    • But someone DID die. Cora killed someone else and masked the corpse with magic. It's just that that specific person was never dealt with directly. :P Blame the writing.

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    • Rena Charming wrote:
      But someone DID die. Cora killed someone else and masked the corpse with magic. It's just that that specific person was never dealt with directly. :P Blame the writing.

      I ninja'd you, lol.

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    • ^^Lol yeah. :p

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    • Bad writing or I was distracted. Never noticed that Cora Killed someone else.

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    • D.Prince wrote:
      Bad writing or I was distracted. Never noticed that Cora Killed someone else.

      It's one of her funnier lines. Something like:

      Hook: So, wait, then who did you kill?

      Cora: How should I know, I just got here.

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    • Thanks for posting this, I guess I didnt get it when I saw the episode. ^^

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    • Rumple didn't die because the Dark One can't kill himself with the dagger... I think that was said in Season 1.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Miwaandsplintergirl1 wrote:
      Archie's technical death :'( is he done :'( for the rest of the show?
      No, they are talking about fake Archie's death in Season 2.


      I know he was thought to be dead but I mean for the rest of the show, is Raphael Sbarge done with the show?

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    • Miwaandsplintergirl1 wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Miwaandsplintergirl1 wrote:
      Archie's technical death :'( is he done :'( for the rest of the show?
      No, they are talking about fake Archie's death in Season 2.

      I know he was thought to be dead but I mean for the rest of the show, is Raphael Sbarge done with the show?

      He shouldn't be. We haven't heard anything about that.

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    • We also haven't heard anything about him filming lately. Pongo has been filming, apparently not his owner, which is odd. Raphael Sbarge is a series regular on another show, maybe that cuts into his OUaT filming.

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    • Pongo is Henry's doge now

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    • Rena Charming wrote:
      We also haven't heard anything about him filming lately. Pongo has been filming, apparently not his owner, which is odd. Raphael Sbarge is a series regular on another show, maybe that cuts into his OUaT filming.

      We don't always here about everyone who's filming every episode they film in. Granny was in 412 and 413, and we didn't know that she was filming beforehand.

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    • CoyoteDork wrote:
      Pongo is Henry's doge now


      huh? What?

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    • Miwaandsplintergirl1 wrote:

      CoyoteDork wrote:
      Pongo is Henry's dog now


      huh? What?

      No, he's not. Only temporarily, in "The Outsider".

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    • Nightlily wrote:

      Miwaandsplintergirl1 wrote:

      CoyoteDork wrote:
      Pongo is Henry's dog now

      huh? What?

      No, he's not. Only temporarily, in "The Outsider".


      I knew about that, thanks for clearing it up :)

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    • taking a dog off a child how cruel

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    • CoyoteDork wrote: taking a dog off a child how cruel

      cruella* xD

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    • Looks pretty good now, as most of the deaths are listed for all four seasons. It looks like we missed Ruth though, and I also think things like the Gnome and the Mermaid should be counted as deaths, we can add the status column to say we are unsure if they are truely dead or not, which we need anyway for reversed deaths, etc. Finally Wonderland has to be done, off the top of my head, looking through the cast lists, here are the deaths, mostly in order: various people (I think we saw two of them in two different episodes) that Jafar and Amara got/attempted to get the genie bottles from, Grendel, Grendel's wife, the Bandersnaches, Orang, Akil, Carpenter, a dragon, Ulima, Mirza, Lizard, Sultan, Amara, Ana (reversed by the well of wonder's water). Hope this helps.

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    • Ruth has been added now. Not sure about the Gnome or mermaid. if they died or are just frozen. I classed those frozen and shattered as dead. :)

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    • Gusey1397 wrote:
      Ruth has been added now. Not sure about the Gnome or mermaid. if they died or are just frozen. I classed those frozen and shattered as dead. :)

      Cool. Yeah, I don't know what to do either. Like I said, maybe a status column is the best way to go, especially since sereral deaths have been undone in various ways. Then we just need the Wonderland stuff, when someone versed in that has a chance.

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    • For the Wonderland season, do I put it as W1? or just W 

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    • I would say just W, since it is how we do for the pics, and more important, since we jusr have one season ^^

      Also we should no forget the comic books :)

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    • Ok, will add soon when I have the time :)

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    • Gusey1397 wrote:
      Ok, will add soon when I have the time :)

      Your awesome! Thanks for working on this.

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    • Yes Gusey, W for Wonderland is good :)

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    • Question to everyone: What would you like to see featured in the stats section? I'm already working on:

      • Character rankings (kills per character)
      • Episode rankings (episodes with most deaths featured)
      • Season rankings (deaths per season)
      • Present vs. Flashback (number of deaths in present vs. number of deaths in flashbacks)

      Do you have any other suggestions?

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    • Perhaps death types that occur the most maybe?? Obviously heart crushing will be pretty high

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    • I like that idea, and yeah heart crushing is not as unique to the queen of hearts as I would have liked it to be, apparently everybody crushes a heart once in a while xD

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    • Well, also heart ripping can "kill" people. I won't say Cora raised zombies, just extremely hurt, unconscious, and pretty much dying people. Maybe heart ripping leaves you on the brink of death at most, but it's crushing the heart which can kill you....eventually (i.e. David's revival).

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    • I like the Present vs Flashback segment idea.

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    • Does anyone die in "Red's Untold Tale"? It should be noted if there is.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Does anyone die in "Red's Untold Tale"? It should be noted if there is.

      Yeah, Amos Slade dies.

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    • CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Does anyone die in "Red's Untold Tale"? It should be noted if there is.
      Yeah, Amos Slade dies.

      Dang. LOL Doesn't he die in the movie, too?

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      CoolDudeAl wrote:
      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
      Does anyone die in "Red's Untold Tale"? It should be noted if there is.
      Yeah, Amos Slade dies.
      Dang. LOL Doesn't he die in the movie, too?

      No, he's attacked (by a bear I think) in the movie, but doesn't die.

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    • I believe that Hercules killed 12 as he had 12 Labors i.e. defeating the 12 monstrous beasts. He completed his final labor by killing Cerberus, with Snow and Meg's help. 

      Also, how did Snow kill 5 and Emma kill 10? Boy, this makes me wonder whether she must be feeling guilty like how she did with Cora (although it could've been out of self-defense and of course not pre-meditated murder). 

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    • A Spy in the Mirror
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