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  • Oh gee... I've no clue which of the 3 murderesses the SEA loving PIRATE has A history with... (sarcastic eye roll.) I can't even imagine....

    We all know he attempted to kill Maleficent (like everyone else.) But I'm thinking that's not the one there talking about. I could easily see Killian seducing Curella then screwing her over but who knows.... Let's see who is the 3d one again?.... Hahaha

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    • did I miss something? Was it confirmed that he has a history with one of TQOD? Because the only one I think is possible is Ursula (she's an immortal goddess, so she could have easily been alive 200+ years ago, and I don't think Mal or Cruella are immortal)

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:
      did I miss something? Was it confirmed that he has a history with one of TQOD? Because the only one I think is possible is Ursula (she's an immortal goddess, so she could have easily been alive 200+ years ago, and I don't think Mal or Cruella are immortal)


      Here you go darlin http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/once_upon_a_time_what_we_know_about_season_4b_so_far-2014-12

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    • DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:
      did I miss something? Was it confirmed that he has a history with one of TQOD? Because the only one I think is possible is Ursula (she's an immortal goddess, so she could have easily been alive 200+ years ago, and I don't think Mal or Cruella are immortal)


      Here you go darlin http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/once_upon_a_time_what_we_know_about_season_4b_so_far-2014-12

      Today is the 22nd, so I hope I can find what the "more on that" is :)

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    • I am betting on him having a history with Maleficent since he knew who she was despite the fact that Regina didn't actually say her name. If not her, my second guess is Ursula. He spent most of his life on sea. Ursula basically ruled the sea. They probably crossed paths once. As for him and Cruella, I doubt they crossed paths. Unless he creators confirmed he had connections to all three. Even then, I got no clue what connection they could have.

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    • Dan Fox wrote: I am betting on him having a history with Maleficent since he knew who she was despite the fact that Regina didn't actually say her name. If not her, my second guess is Ursula. He spent most of his life on sea. Ursula basically ruled the sea. They probably crossed paths once. As for him and Cruella, I doubt they crossed paths. Unless he creators confirmed he had connections to all three. Even then, I got no clue what connection they could have.

      He could have just recognized Mal from somewhere, doesn't mean he actually met her. My bet's on Ursula (Cruella makes no sense whatsoever) Oh and DZAV21, what do you think about the combination of Maleficent, Ursula and Cruella as.....Malursella?!?!?!?! I just randomly came up with that :)

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    • I would love if Hook has a connection to Cruella, because it is the most unlikely.

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:

      Dan Fox wrote: I am betting on him having a history with Maleficent since he knew who she was despite the fact that Regina didn't actually say her name. If not her, my second guess is Ursula. He spent most of his life on sea. Ursula basically ruled the sea. They probably crossed paths once. As for him and Cruella, I doubt they crossed paths. Unless he creators confirmed he had connections to all three. Even then, I got no clue what connection they could have.

      He could have just recognized Mal from somewhere, doesn't mean he actually met her. My bet's on Ursula (Cruella makes no sense whatsoever) Oh and DZAV21, what do you think about the combination of Maleficent, Ursula and Cruella as.....Malursella?!?!?!?! I just randomly came up with that :)


      Sounds like a villain from Power Rangers.:...... Love It!

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote: I would love if Hook has a connection to Cruella, because it is the most unlikely.

      But what would it be? I'm imagining Killian's connection with Ursula being something sailing related, and his connection with Mal being something "i need magic to save someone or to do something" related, but what would he have with Cruella? Did she own the local pet shop in the village where he grew up?

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    • DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      Dan Fox wrote: I am betting on him having a history with Maleficent since he knew who she was despite the fact that Regina didn't actually say her name. If not her, my second guess is Ursula. He spent most of his life on sea. Ursula basically ruled the sea. They probably crossed paths once. As for him and Cruella, I doubt they crossed paths. Unless he creators confirmed he had connections to all three. Even then, I got no clue what connection they could have.

      He could have just recognized Mal from somewhere, doesn't mean he actually met her. My bet's on Ursula (Cruella makes no sense whatsoever) Oh and DZAV21, what do you think about the combination of Maleficent, Ursula and Cruella as.....Malursella?!?!?!?! I just randomly came up with that :)


      Sounds like a villain from Power Rangers.:...... Love It!

      I made it up before Heroes and Villains aired, so I was hoping they would have some sort of shop together in SB called "Malursella INC." or something :) But Powers Rangers villain does come to mind...

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    • Hmmm.  Maybe it's Urs.  I'm thinking her b/c of Hook's time during the lost year w/ Ariel, Blackbeard and the whole trading his ship debacle.  But maybe not possible b/c maybe Urs was already in NYC when the lost year went down. 

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    • DarlingDavies wrote: Hmmm.  Maybe it's Urs.  I'm thinking her b/c of Hook's time during the lost year w/ Ariel, Blackbeard and the whole trading his ship debacle.  But maybe not possible b/c maybe Urs was already in NYC when the lost year went down. 

      Well, I'm thinking that Ursula A) wasn't taken with the first curse and found her own way to the LWM or B) was taken by the first curse and the second curse, and managed to escape before Elsa made the huge ice wall or was able to get past Zelena's monkeys.

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DarlingDavies wrote: Hmmm.  Maybe it's Urs.  I'm thinking her b/c of Hook's time during the lost year w/ Ariel, Blackbeard and the whole trading his ship debacle.  But maybe not possible b/c maybe Urs was already in NYC when the lost year went down. 

      Well, I'm thinking that Ursula A) wasn't taken with the first curse and found her own way to the LWM or B) was taken by the first curse and the second curse, and managed to escape before Elsa made the huge ice wall or was able to get past Zelena's monkeys.


      good thoughts.

      the more i think about it, the idea of a pirate and sea goddess knowing eachother just seems to go together.

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    • Oh dear what if Killian made a deal with Ursula and she comes to SB and turns him into a seamonkey like she did the merpeople???

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    • I think we already know what the connection is:

      In 2x20 we saw Hook fighting Zombie Maleficent.

      I remember Regina left Hook there and suddenly he was back in the library. We saw how that happened. Maybe Maleficent helped him. Maybe they are friends.

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    • Just to toss out another thought...

      As OUAT-fanatics, we all know that Hook knows Mal.  We've seen the episode w/ Hook fighting Mal...So why then is an article out there on the interwebs that mentions a possible connection between Hook and one of TQOD?  If I were the editor of that site, I'd tell my writer, "Um, hey.  The people reading this know he's connected to Maleficent.  So just say so.". 

      What do you think?

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    • 8Rob wrote: I think we already know what the connection is:

      In 2x20 we saw Hook fighting Zombie Maleficent.

      I remember Regina left Hook there and suddenly he was back in the library. We saw how that happened. Maybe Maleficent helped him. Maybe they are friends.

      It was said that Greg and Tamara helped him, remember?

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    • Ok, Hook has a past with one of the Queens of Darkness. Let's examine the facts:

      Killian lived in the land aproximately 300 years prior to everyone else (except Rumple). 

      He spent most of that time in Neverland.

      His only time in FTL was his Early life (up until he fled to Neverland after his second encounter with Rumple), right before the First Curse (when he came back to look for the Dagger and ended up being recruited by the Mills family). and the Missing Year (or what ever you want to call the time between the first and second curses when everyone is in FTL again).

      If his hookup was in Neverland, then the person he encounted almost had to be Ursula, 1 because of the Mermaid population, and 2 She is the only one of the 3 Queens that I see having the ability to travel between realms easily enough.

      If his hookup was in the Early life before Neverland, chances are high that it is Ursula, being a Goddess-type figure that has supposedly been around for a thousand years or more. It could also be Maleficent, assuming that she is also the Black Fairy, as we know that Blue was also around at the time, and it would not be inconceivable that the Black Fairy would be around as well.

      Now, if the encounter happened either at the point that Killian returned from Neverland to FTL, or during the Missing Year, then it could be any of the three ladies, and I can come up with scenerios for each one, particularly given their own opinions of Rumple at that time. 

      BOttom line, here's my odds for who Hook has a History with:

      1. Ursula - 95%

      2. Maleficent - 4%

      3. Cruella - 1 %

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote: Ok, Hook has a past with one of the Queens of Darkness. Let's examine the facts:

      Killian lived in the land aproximately 300 years prior to everyone else (except Rumple). 

      He spent most of that time in Neverland.

      His only time in FTL was his Early life (up until he fled to Neverland after his second encounter with Rumple), right before the First Curse (when he came back to look for the Dagger and ended up being recruited by the Mills family). and the Missing Year (or what ever you want to call the time between the first and second curses when everyone is in FTL again).

      If his hookup was in Neverland, then the person he encounted almost had to be Ursula, 1 because of the Mermaid population, and 2 She is the only one of the 3 Queens that I see having the ability to travel between realms easily enough.

      If his hookup was in the Early life before Neverland, chances are high that it is Ursula, being a Goddess-type figure that has supposedly been around for a thousand years or more. It could also be Maleficent, assuming that she is also the Black Fairy, as we know that Blue was also around at the time, and it would not be inconceivable that the Black Fairy would be around as well.

      Now, if the encounter happened either at the point that Killian returned from Neverland to FTL, or during the Missing Year, then it could be any of the three ladies, and I can come up with scenerios for each one, particularly given their own opinions of Rumple at that time. 

      BOttom line, here's my odds for who Hook has a History with:

      1. Ursula - 95%

      2. Maleficent - 4%

      3. Cruella - 1 %

      WOAH! Overload!!!!!

      Ursula does seem pretty much a given, but if we know A&E, we know they will most likely surprise us. One thing to consider is: Was Mal being plain old murderous when Killian tumbled into her cave in S2, or was it because she knew who he was (and he knew who she was) and she did not like him? Tragic backstory time perhaps?????

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      Ok, Hook has a past with one of the Queens of Darkness. Let's examine the facts:

      Killian lived in the land aproximately 300 years prior to everyone else (except Rumple). 

      He spent most of that time in Neverland.

      His only time in FTL was his Early life (up until he fled to Neverland after his second encounter with Rumple), right before the First Curse (when he came back to look for the Dagger and ended up being recruited by the Mills family). and the Missing Year (or what ever you want to call the time between the first and second curses when everyone is in FTL again).

      If his hookup was in Neverland, then the person he encounted almost had to be Ursula, 1 because of the Mermaid population, and 2 She is the only one of the 3 Queens that I see having the ability to travel between realms easily enough.

      If his hookup was in the Early life before Neverland, chances are high that it is Ursula, being a Goddess-type figure that has supposedly been around for a thousand years or more. It could also be Maleficent, assuming that she is also the Black Fairy, as we know that Blue was also around at the time, and it would not be inconceivable that the Black Fairy would be around as well.

      Now, if the encounter happened either at the point that Killian returned from Neverland to FTL, or during the Missing Year, then it could be any of the three ladies, and I can come up with scenerios for each one, particularly given their own opinions of Rumple at that time. 

      BOttom line, here's my odds for who Hook has a History with:

      1. Ursula - 95%

      2. Maleficent - 4%

      3. Cruella - 1 %


      Nice work. 

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:

      Hmcooper4 wrote: ...

      WOAH! Overload!!!!!

      Ursula does seem pretty much a given, but if we know A&E, we know they will most likely surprise us. One thing to consider is: Was Mal being plain old murderous when Killian tumbled into her cave in S2, or was it because she knew who he was (and he knew who she was) and she did not like him? Tragic backstory time perhaps?????

      Sorry, mate. Didn't mean to overload ya. And you're right, A&E just LOVE to surprise us. Which is one reason I love this show so much.

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      Hmcooper4 wrote: ...

      WOAH! Overload!!!!!

      Ursula does seem pretty much a given, but if we know A&E, we know they will most likely surprise us. One thing to consider is: Was Mal being plain old murderous when Killian tumbled into her cave in S2, or was it because she knew who he was (and he knew who she was) and she did not like him? Tragic backstory time perhaps?????

      Sorry, mate. Didn't mean to overload ya. And you're right, A&E just LOVE to surprise us. Which is one reason I love this show so much.

      Their spontaneity and surprising nature is the reason why I was holding my breath while Rumple was crushing Killian's heart. Even though I knew he wasn't gonna die, A&E always surprise me! :)

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    • All I'm saying is,it doesn't seem like Rumple tried that hard to get to the LWM.

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    • WinterWoodsGal wrote: All I'm saying is,it doesn't seem like Rumple tried that hard to get to the LWM.

      ?

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:

      WinterWoodsGal wrote: All I'm saying is,it doesn't seem like Rumple tried that hard to get to the LWM.

      ?

      Since so many people have gone there using magic beans, portals, magical doors and whatnot. And now Ursula and possibly Cruella.

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    • WinterWoodsGal wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      WinterWoodsGal wrote: All I'm saying is,it doesn't seem like Rumple tried that hard to get to the LWM.

      ?

      Since so many people have gone there using magic beans, portals, magical doors and whatnot. And now Ursula and possibly Cruella.

      Possibly

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    • Ok, here's the deal with Rumple and the LWM. It's not that he didn't try hard to get there. His whole goal was to get there with his magic intact. If you recall his one trip to NYC, he was a bloomin' mess without his magic. His magic is his emotional cane, so to speak. And we've seen this season that he loves power, even more than he loves Belle. (and I have to believe A & E when they say that his wedding vows were genuine).

      Now, Neal got there, but he did not have magic to begin with, so no big deal. We've seen Ingrid there, and she was powerless, and I suspect that Ursula is powerless as well.  So yes, the other ways would have gotten him there, but he would be without Magic (which is exactly what Neal wanted, and exactly what Rumple does not want).  The Dark Curse is the only way to get there with and have any chance of having magic as a part of the bargain.

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    • cruella could be Hook's mom.

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    • That would be frickin weird. I think before that could happen, we need to learn about his Dad first. And who he is.

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    • Dan Fox wrote: we need to learn about his Dad first. And who he is.

      Have you not noticed the resemblance between Hook and Blackbeard? 

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    • And Hook wouldn't even be the first villian to off his dad (or at least try to).

      However, I don't think that Blackbeard is Hook's dad. 

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote: And Hook wouldn't even be the first villian to off his dad (or at least try to).

      However, I don't think that Blackbeard is Hook's dad. 

      Blackbeard CAN'T be Killian's dad. Blackbeard would have to be immortal, since at least 200 years passed between the time Killian's father left him and when Killian tried to off BB.

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:

      Blackbeard CAN'T be Killian's dad. Blackbeard would have to be immortal, since at least 200 years passed between the time Killian's father left him and when Killian tried to off BB.

      So.... when has immortality ever stopped Hook, from trying to kill someone?

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    • I think A&E confirmed back in late season 3 that Blackbeard is not Hook's dad.

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    • WorldHopper22 wrote: I think A&E confirmed back in late season 3 that Blackbeard is not Hook's dad.

      I think it's just wishful thinking. And BB showed no indication of fatherly emotions when dealing with Killian, because Killian wouldn't just be able to fight and talk and "kill" his father without his father saying something fake like "I'm sorry I abandoned you, please forgive me". So even if A&E didn't confirm it, there really isn't any proof at all.

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    • It is possible, Blackbeard is Hook's father. They both could have severed the bond prior to the episode storyline in The Jolly Roger, and that was why neither one acknowledged each other as father and son, but still, I don't think Blackbeard is Hook's father.

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    • Ok, let's think this through.  Killian is 300 years old (give or take).  He started out as a respectable Leftenant abord a fighting ship. His older brother was a Captain in the King's navy (no small feat there).  How do we get from there to Blackbeard is Killian's (and Liam's)  father. Blackbeard would have to be well over 300 himself. and I just don't see the son of a Pirate becoming an officer in the Navy. Let alone 2 sons becoming officers.

      I just don't see it.

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote: Ok, let's think this through.  Killian is 300 years old (give or take).  He started out as a respectable Leftenant abord a fighting ship. His older brother was a Captain in the King's navy (no small feat there).  How do we get from there to Blackbeard is Killian's (and Liam's)  father. Blackbeard would have to be well over 300 himself. and I just don't see the son of a Pirate becoming an officer in the Navy. Let alone 2 sons becoming officers.

      I just don't see it.

      And since Killian said that his father abandoned him, that would probably give him the impression to NOT turn out like his father. So if BB is Killian's father, it seems unlikely that Killian would become a pirate after the example that his father gave him if he was BB.

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:

      Hmcooper4 wrote: Ok, let's think this through.  Killian is 300 years old (give or take).  He started out as a respectable Leftenant abord a fighting ship. His older brother was a Captain in the King's navy (no small feat there).  How do we get from there to Blackbeard is Killian's (and Liam's)  father. Blackbeard would have to be well over 300 himself. and I just don't see the son of a Pirate becoming an officer in the Navy. Let alone 2 sons becoming officers.

      I just don't see it.

      And since Killian said that his father abandoned him, that would probably give him the impression to NOT turn out like his father. So if BB is Killian's father, it seems unlikely that Killian would become a pirate after the example that his father gave him if he was BB.


      I don't think Edward is Killian's father, they didn't seem to have that vibe to me. I've no doubt we will see his dad sometime but I don't think it's Edward.

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote: I just don't see the son of a Pirate becoming an officer in the Navy. Let alone 2 sons becoming officers.

      It was heavily implied, that Hook's father was a pirate.

      Liam and Killian were abandoned by their father, in the middle of the night. They must have considered him a dishonorable coward, from that moment on. They grew up and joined the navy, because they loved the sea.... but did not want to be like their father. The irony was that after Liam died, Killian realized that perhaps pirates were not all bad. Meaning, Hook was truly his father's son, after all that time.

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    • I'm always game for more pirates. And given what Killian's last name is then if his dad is a pirate and still alive then we can all guess who he is. Especially with how OUAT has EVERYONE related to a classic legion somehow.

      Plus it might be fun to see Killian's dad show up and cause havok on his life and relationship.

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    • What is Hook is really Kovu?! Killian/Kovu... Scar's son! And he transformed into a human.

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    • Raelizflo wrote:
      What is Hook is really Kovu?! Killian/Kovu... Scar's son! And he transformed into a human.

      Please, don't do the Lion King!

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    • Raelizflo wrote:
      What is Hook is really Kovu?! Killian/Kovu... Scar's son! And he transformed into a human.

      You are joking.... right?

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    • Raelizflo wrote:
      What is Hook is really Kovu?! Killian/Kovu... Scar's son! And he transformed into a human.


      And Liam was Nuka, Em is Kiara, Robin & Will are Timone & Pumba, Curella is Zera, Charming & Snow are Simba & Nalla, oh and Henry is Rafiki, WTH let's make Regina Vatani, and Ursula one of the Hippos in Upindi.....

      Darlin while I'll agree most of the songs in TLK2 fit Killian (He Lives In You, Not One Of Us, Love Will Find A Way,) and We Are One pretty much describes the Charming's, I highly HIGHLY doubt they would do that to TLK. And if they did I'd have to write a very nasty letter. Especially if they ruined Mufasa....

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    • Althought it's not impossible, I sincerely doubt they would bring The Lion King franchise into the series.   As many fans have already brought up, considering the amount of the time Captain Hook spent sailing the ocean, Ursula seems the most logical Queen of Darkness for him to have crossed path with.  Another possibility is that Hook is related to one of the Queens of Darkness.  As Hook himself pointed out, a lot of people that comes to Storybrooke are related, and there has been a lot of ways for them live long time, such as staying in Neverland, being frozen, or time travel.  So it might be possible of one of TQOD and Captain Hook are family.

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    • DarkRobin wrote:
      Althought it's not impossible, I sincerely doubt they would bring The Lion King franchise into the series.   As many fans have already brought up, considering the amount of the time Captain Hook spent sailing the ocean, Ursula seems the most logical Queen of Darkness for him to have crossed path with.  Another possibility is that Hook is related to one of the Queens of Darkness.  As Hook himself pointed out, a lot of people that comes to Storybrooke are related, and there has been a lot of ways for them live long time, such as staying in Neverland, being frozen, or time travel.  So it might be possible of one of TQOD and Captain Hook are family.

      How on earth could the Lion King be possible on the show? It's a movie about lions...in Africa...WTF?

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    • Dr. Kangaroo wrote:
      DarkRobin wrote:
      Althought it's not impossible, I sincerely doubt they would bring The Lion King franchise into the series.   As many fans have already brought up, considering the amount of the time Captain Hook spent sailing the ocean, Ursula seems the most logical Queen of Darkness for him to have crossed path with.  Another possibility is that Hook is related to one of the Queens of Darkness.  As Hook himself pointed out, a lot of people that comes to Storybrooke are related, and there has been a lot of ways for them live long time, such as staying in Neverland, being frozen, or time travel.  So it might be possible of one of TQOD and Captain Hook are family.
      How on earth could the Lion King be possible on the show? It's a movie about lions...in Africa...WTF?


      They can take their creativity and imagination to a ridiculous level.  Remember how Jiminy the cricket started as a human in this series?  I did state my opinion was that it's unlikely.  

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    • DZAV21 wrote: I'm always game for more pirates. And given what Killian's last name is then if his dad is a pirate and still alive then we can all guess who he is. Especially with how OUAT has EVERYONE related to a classic legion somehow.

      Plus it might be fun to see Killian's dad show up and cause havok on his life and relationship.

      I think it would be awesome if either TQOD brought Davy to SB, or if he has been in SB this whole time and while Killian is walking around SB with Em Davy comes stumbling out of the Rabbit Hole and since Davy is most likely immortal (he is literally heartless) he would still look more or less the same as he did when Killian was young. But since SB didn't have magic for a while, he would look normal.

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote: I'm always game for more pirates. And given what Killian's last name is then if his dad is a pirate and still alive then we can all guess who he is. Especially with how OUAT has EVERYONE related to a classic legion somehow.

      Plus it might be fun to see Killian's dad show up and cause havok on his life and relationship.

      I think it would be awesome if either TQOD brought Davy to SB, or if he has been in SB this whole time and while Killian is walking around SB with Em Davy comes stumbling out of the Rabbit Hole and since Davy is most likely immortal (he is literally heartless) he would still look more or less the same as he did when Killian was young. But since SB didn't have magic for a while, he would look normal.


      You know I read a fic similar to that a while back. Only it involved Davy curse Killian, Em being pregnant, and them pirates coming to SB to take her because of the curse..... Haha

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    • I could see the Lion King being converted to OUAT.  But it'd have to be dark.  VERY dark.  Very Cain & Able.  And I'd hope that there would be not weird sci-fi, Were-Lion people.  Just a true story about brothers who ruled a beautiful, vast land when all turns grim.  And in the LWM, it was just turned into a story about Lions for ticket sales.  If that makes sense? 

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    • So, what you want is a story of a son seeking revenge on his Uncle because the Uncle murdered his brother, the son's dad.  Done with real people, and not Lions.

      I believe that is Hamlet in a nutshell. :)

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      So, what you want is a story of a son seeking revenge on his Uncle because the Uncle murdered his brother, the son's dad.  Done with real people, and not Lions.

      I believe that is Hamlet in a nutshell. :)


      Yes!  I believe some Disney trivia out there in the world confirms that the Lion King used Hamlet as it's basis.

      But that coudl be sooooo amazing.  Their land could be called Pride Rock still.  In the casting, Scar could be this dark haired, dark eyed man w/ a menacing grimmace.  His name could be something else, of course.  But he could actually HAVE a scar on his face.  His leve of evil and bitterness could be on par w/ Regina's, at her darkest.  And I'd say that for this story, it should be one where the villain is not redeemed. They could cast Mufasa as a strong, strapping man.  His wife.  They cast a quirky old man to be Mufasa's advisor (aka, Rafiki).  But again, all names different.  Maybe they actually take their names of inspiration from Hamlet!  Maybe this could tie in w/ the Camelot world. Or perhaps it could be it's own 1-episode backstory.  So many thoughts.

      ...But I wouldn't be able to see it tying to Hook.

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    • The main inspiration & theme for TLK was Hamlet. Unfortunately the theme for TLK2 was that piece of swill Romeo & Juliet. Great music though.

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    • I agree that using some Shakespere could be very effective. Your Idea for Hamlet/Lion King is really good.  the Quirky old man as advisor wouold be Zazu, though.  The role that matches Rafiki could actually be a Wizard. And I would make the Scar figure have an eyepatch, with the scar being seen running above and below the patch.

      You could also bring in Midsummer nights dream, and play total havoc with all of the ships (CS, OQ, SW, etc) on the show. That would definitely be a one or two episode storyline, and very light hearted.

      For tying in Hook, I would go to different source material altogether.  Another classis, Treasure Island, lends itself very well to bringing in some ties to Hook. Or maybe 20000 leagues under the sea.

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    • Haha CS, OQ, and Snowing going though what the couples in AMND did? Hahaha id love it! Id die laughing! Also I really really want a Treasure Island arc. As much as I love the book & Black Sails, id love to see it on OUAT.

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      I agree that using some Shakespere could be very effective. Your Idea for Hamlet/Lion King is really good.  the Quirky old man as advisor wouold be Zazu, though.  The role that matches Rafiki could actually be a Wizard. And I would make the Scar figure have an eyepatch, with the scar being seen running above and below the patch.

      You could also bring in Midsummer nights dream, and play total havoc with all of the ships (CS, OQ, SW, etc) on the show. That would definitely be a one or two episode storyline, and very light hearted.

      For tying in Hook, I would go to different source material altogether.  Another classis, Treasure Island, lends itself very well to bringing in some ties to Hook. Or maybe 20000 leagues under the sea.

      Zazu - that's right!!!  I totally forgot about him.  He'd work, too.  He'd be more of a stiff.  Rafiki would be the quirkier cast. 

      Treasure Island - nice call.

      I could really see the TLK working.  I mean, it's so funny when we see Emma react to fairytales being real.  "Tinkerbell?  Everyone one from my world knows who she is.".  And she had some pretty great reactions to the Wicked Witch being real.  Imagine if she found out that that cute little lion cub Simba was actually a human w/ a dark, evil uncle?  She'd lose her mind.  I know she understands that her family is from the EF, but c'mon.  I think we'd a classic Emma, "Really?" when she stumbles upon proof that TLK is real.  (This being said, I'm sure she's going to do it when she finds out Cruella is real.  She already knows about the existence of Maleficent and probably about Ursula, since she's met Ariel.)

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    • I can see it now...

      Timon: Have you seen my friend Simba?

      Emma: Simba? You mean, like, from the Lion King.  That Simba?

      Timon: I sure don't know any other Simba?

      Emma: Can you describe him?

      Timon: Oh, about 4 feet at the sholders, nice bushy golden hair, long tail, sharp claws and teeth...

      Emma: You mean like a Lion?!? Really?

      Hook: Once again, says the daughter of Snow White and Prince Charming.

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      I can see it now...

      Timon: Have you seen my friend Simba?

      Emma: Simba? You mean, like, from the Lion King.  That Simba?

      Timon: I sure don't know any other Simba?

      Emma: Can you describe him?

      Timon: Oh, about 4 feet at the sholders, nice bushy golden hair, long tail, sharp claws and teeth...

      Emma: You mean like a Lion?!? Really?

      Hook: Once again, says the daughter of Snow White and Prince Charming.


      hahahahah!!!

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      I can see it now...

      Timon: Have you seen my friend Simba?

      Emma: Simba? You mean, like, from the Lion King.  That Simba?

      Timon: I sure don't know any other Simba?

      Emma: Can you describe him?

      Timon: Oh, about 4 feet at the sholders, nice bushy golden hair, long tail, sharp claws and teeth...

      Emma: You mean like a Lion?!? Really?

      Hook: Once again, says the daughter of Snow White and Prince Charming.


      Emma: "Hakuna Matata Pirate.."

      Killian: "Hakuna MaWHAT?"

      Timon: "It means no worries."

      Killian: "Then why not just bloody say that?!"

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    • I still don't think Lion King could be something for Once. I mean, the whole Lion King thing was ruined by the stupid sequel and the even more stupid 1 1/2 movie. We don't need another one who will certainly be just as stupid. I would be fine with some Shakespeare, and even some Lion King references, but don't go in overdrive on this.

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    • Dr. Kangaroo wrote:
      I still don't think Lion King could be something for Once. I mean, the whole Lion King thing was ruined by the stupid sequel and the even more stupid 1 1/2 movie. We don't need another one who will certainly be just as stupid. I would be fine with some Shakespeare, and even some Lion King references, but don't go in overdrive on this.


      all fun above aside, i agree.  we wouldn't want it to be a mockery of the show to make a super cheesy and super literal Lion King.  but if they could bring in the Hamlet tones, it'd be a great story.

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    • DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote: I'm always game for more pirates. And given what Killian's last name is then if his dad is a pirate and still alive then we can all guess who he is. Especially with how OUAT has EVERYONE related to a classic legion somehow.

      Plus it might be fun to see Killian's dad show up and cause havok on his life and relationship.

      I think it would be awesome if either TQOD brought Davy to SB, or if he has been in SB this whole time and while Killian is walking around SB with Em Davy comes stumbling out of the Rabbit Hole and since Davy is most likely immortal (he is literally heartless) he would still look more or less the same as he did when Killian was young. But since SB didn't have magic for a while, he would look normal.


      You know I read a fic similar to that a while back. Only it involved Davy curse Killian, Em being pregnant, and them pirates coming to SB to take her because of the curse..... Haha

      Lol. If only...

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote: I'm always game for more pirates. And given what Killian's last name is then if his dad is a pirate and still alive then we can all guess who he is. Especially with how OUAT has EVERYONE related to a classic legion somehow.

      Plus it might be fun to see Killian's dad show up and cause havok on his life and relationship.

      I think it would be awesome if either TQOD brought Davy to SB, or if he has been in SB this whole time and while Killian is walking around SB with Em Davy comes stumbling out of the Rabbit Hole and since Davy is most likely immortal (he is literally heartless) he would still look more or less the same as he did when Killian was young. But since SB didn't have magic for a while, he would look normal.

      You know I read a fic similar to that a while back. Only it involved Davy curse Killian, Em being pregnant, and them pirates coming to SB to take her because of the curse..... Haha

      Lol. If only...


      IKR?

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    • DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote: I'm always game for more pirates. And given what Killian's last name is then if his dad is a pirate and still alive then we can all guess who he is. Especially with how OUAT has EVERYONE related to a classic legion somehow.

      Plus it might be fun to see Killian's dad show up and cause havok on his life and relationship.

      I think it would be awesome if either TQOD brought Davy to SB, or if he has been in SB this whole time and while Killian is walking around SB with Em Davy comes stumbling out of the Rabbit Hole and since Davy is most likely immortal (he is literally heartless) he would still look more or less the same as he did when Killian was young. But since SB didn't have magic for a while, he would look normal.

      You know I read a fic similar to that a while back. Only it involved Davy curse Killian, Em being pregnant, and them pirates coming to SB to take her because of the curse..... Haha

      Lol. If only...


      IKR?

      A&E should really take some advice from us fans...

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:


      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote: I'm always game for more pirates. And given what Killian's last name is then if his dad is a pirate and still alive then we can all guess who he is. Especially with how OUAT has EVERYONE related to a classic legion somehow.

      Plus it might be fun to see Killian's dad show up and cause havok on his life and relationship.

      I think it would be awesome if either TQOD brought Davy to SB, or if he has been in SB this whole time and while Killian is walking around SB with Em Davy comes stumbling out of the Rabbit Hole and since Davy is most likely immortal (he is literally heartless) he would still look more or less the same as he did when Killian was young. But since SB didn't have magic for a while, he would look normal.

      You know I read a fic similar to that a while back. Only it involved Davy curse Killian, Em being pregnant, and them pirates coming to SB to take her because of the curse..... Haha

      Lol. If only...

      IKR?

      A&E should really take some advice from us fans...


      Hence why a while back I told you, "the authors library full of empty story books just waiting to be filled. Image if a CSer broke in there with a pen?" Haha

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    • DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:


      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote: I'm always game for more pirates. And given what Killian's last name is then if his dad is a pirate and still alive then we can all guess who he is. Especially with how OUAT has EVERYONE related to a classic legion somehow.

      Plus it might be fun to see Killian's dad show up and cause havok on his life and relationship.

      I think it would be awesome if either TQOD brought Davy to SB, or if he has been in SB this whole time and while Killian is walking around SB with Em Davy comes stumbling out of the Rabbit Hole and since Davy is most likely immortal (he is literally heartless) he would still look more or less the same as he did when Killian was young. But since SB didn't have magic for a while, he would look normal.

      You know I read a fic similar to that a while back. Only it involved Davy curse Killian, Em being pregnant, and them pirates coming to SB to take her because of the curse..... Haha

      Lol. If only...

      IKR?

      A&E should really take some advice from us fans...


      Hence why a while back I told you, "the authors library full of empty story books just waiting to be filled. Image if a CSer broke in there with a pen?" Haha

      I just want Em to find a page of a book where it shows what would've happened if she didn't abandon Killian on that beanstalk.That's what I would write if broke in there :)

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    • I just wanted to write a response to several comments, so I didn't "quote" anyone in particular. Speaking of the Lion King…

      1) With Cruella coming into town, it's possible she owns a Lion coat. There could be something that stirs up if Killian was in fact a little lion-cub from the pride and as a refugee from hunters (Cruella, the guy from Bambi, the guy from Tarzan), he seeked help to escape so maybe Rafiki had magic and turned them into Humans, sort of the opposite of what happened to Jiminy Cricket.

      2) Also, wasn't one of Cinderella's mice a man in Storybrooke? People and animals have been turning into each other for a while, so I don't understand the disbelief that it could happen.

      3) It's funny Zazu and Zoso (the Dark one prior to Rumple) have similar names, just an interesting fact.

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    • I'd be fine with Mufasa coming (i always hated Simba anyway) so long as the gut they get to play him looked like the guy that was Mufasa in the Broadway musical I went to see last week, he was so freaking gorgeus!

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    • Raelizflo wrote:

      2) Also, wasn't one of Cinderella's mice a man in Storybrooke? People and animals have been turning into each other for a while, so I don't understand the disbelief that it could happen.

      Ya!  Gus.  He was a mechanic!  He was murdered.  Ruby was framed for it. 


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    • DarlingDavies wrote:

      Raelizflo wrote:

      2) Also, wasn't one of Cinderella's mice a man in Storybrooke? People and animals have been turning into each other for a while, so I don't understand the disbelief that it could happen.

      Ya!  Gus.  He was a mechanic!  He was murdered.  Ruby was framed for it. 

      Yes, well, Gus was from the movie Cinderella. A movie where people interacted with animals. Same for Jiminy. But Lion King is a completely different thing! It's a movie about animals interacting with other animals. Nothing in the movie points to contact with humans. So turning them into humans would just be wrong in my eyes. Also, the mice from Cinderella didn't really behave like real mice would. They even wore clothes and walked on two feet. In the Lion King, on the other hand, the animals had way less human traits...


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    • OKay, you guys are totally making me mad right now. I scroll down through the comments and I see "TLK", and I immediately think "True Love's Kiss". Gawsh, my shipper heart nearly exploded!!!!!

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:
      OKay, you guys are totally making me mad right now. I scroll down through the comments and I see "TLK", and I immediately think "True Love's Kiss". Gawsh, my shipper heart nearly exploded!!!!!


      Oh sorry darlin, we mean The Lion King. :)

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    • DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:
      OKay, you guys are totally making me mad right now. I scroll down through the comments and I see "TLK", and I immediately think "True Love's Kiss". Gawsh, my shipper heart nearly exploded!!!!!


      Oh sorry darlin, we mean The Lion King. :)

      I figured as much, I'm just a little hyper after I saw a pic on Twitter that Christina Perri posted. She and Colin finished up filming for her video a week ago, but she still hasn't posted it yet! I'm anxious! But she sent me overboard once she posted a pic of what I think is a tattoo based off of a picture Colin drew for her. A hook!!! If only Killian and Em were this romantic, I think i'd die from over shipping!!!

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:
      OKay, you guys are totally making me mad right now. I scroll down through the comments and I see "TLK", and I immediately think "True Love's Kiss". Gawsh, my shipper heart nearly exploded!!!!!

      Oh sorry darlin, we mean The Lion King. :)

      I figured as much, I'm just a little hyper after I saw a pic on Twitter that Christina Perri posted. She and Colin finished up filming for her video a week ago, but she still hasn't posted it yet! I'm anxious! But she sent me overboard once she posted a pic of what I think is a tattoo based off of a picture Colin drew for her. A hook!!! If only Killian and Em were this romantic, I think i'd die from over shipping!!!


      Yeah I saw the pics to. I really like the song but I'm looking forward to the video.

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    • DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:
      OKay, you guys are totally making me mad right now. I scroll down through the comments and I see "TLK", and I immediately think "True Love's Kiss". Gawsh, my shipper heart nearly exploded!!!!!

      Oh sorry darlin, we mean The Lion King. :)

      I figured as much, I'm just a little hyper after I saw a pic on Twitter that Christina Perri posted. She and Colin finished up filming for her video a week ago, but she still hasn't posted it yet! I'm anxious! But she sent me overboard once she posted a pic of what I think is a tattoo based off of a picture Colin drew for her. A hook!!! If only Killian and Em were this romantic, I think i'd die from over shipping!!!


      Yeah I saw the pics to. I really like the song but I'm looking forward to the video.

      I like the song enough, but her voice gets a little screechy in the chorus. The video better pay off, though.

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:


      MagicKaty1 wrote:
      OKay, you guys are totally making me mad right now. I scroll down through the comments and I see "TLK", and I immediately think "True Love's Kiss". Gawsh, my shipper heart nearly exploded!!!!!

      Oh sorry darlin, we mean The Lion King. :)

      I figured as much, I'm just a little hyper after I saw a pic on Twitter that Christina Perri posted. She and Colin finished up filming for her video a week ago, but she still hasn't posted it yet! I'm anxious! But she sent me overboard once she posted a pic of what I think is a tattoo based off of a picture Colin drew for her. A hook!!! If only Killian and Em were this romantic, I think i'd die from over shipping!!!

      Yeah I saw the pics to. I really like the song but I'm looking forward to the video.

      I like the song enough, but her voice gets a little screechy in the chorus. The video better pay off, though.


      Darlin. It's got Colin in it..... She could sing like Russell Crow in Les Miserable and it'd still be good.

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    • DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:


      MagicKaty1 wrote:
      OKay, you guys are totally making me mad right now. I scroll down through the comments and I see "TLK", and I immediately think "True Love's Kiss". Gawsh, my shipper heart nearly exploded!!!!!

      Oh sorry darlin, we mean The Lion King. :)

      I figured as much, I'm just a little hyper after I saw a pic on Twitter that Christina Perri posted. She and Colin finished up filming for her video a week ago, but she still hasn't posted it yet! I'm anxious! But she sent me overboard once she posted a pic of what I think is a tattoo based off of a picture Colin drew for her. A hook!!! If only Killian and Em were this romantic, I think i'd die from over shipping!!!

      Yeah I saw the pics to. I really like the song but I'm looking forward to the video.

      I like the song enough, but her voice gets a little screechy in the chorus. The video better pay off, though.


      Darlin. It's got Colin in it..... She could sing like Russell Crow in Les Miserable and it'd still be good.

      And he's wearing a scarf...and a jacket that's not leather...and has both hands....this is gonna be good :)

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    • I believe some mentioned this already, but just in case nobody did.  

      I have been rewatching old episodes, and back in season 2 when Regina used Hook to get the trigger diamond, he recognized Maleficent even though she was in a zombie-form.  She might be the one Hook has a past with.

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    • DarkRobin wrote:
      I believe some mentioned this already, but just in case nobody did.  

      I have been rewatching old episodes, and back in season 2 when Regina used Hook to get the trigger diamond, he recognized Maleficent even though she was in a zombie-form.  She might be the one Hook has a past with.


      I'm still going with Ursula. But I they also say the Charmings have a history with TQOD so maybe they have a history with Curella.

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    • Well, we know that David has a history with Maleficent.  We saw that in season 1.  Now, if Snow also has one, it would not surprise me if it was with Cruella.  Maybe (wishful thinking here) something involving Snow and Red with Cruella.

      In thinking about it, Maleficent has crossed paths (at least) with just about every major, and even most of the semi-major, characters.

      Ursula has been quiet for quite some time, except for Rumple and Belle, and possibly briefly with Regina (from the end of "Ariel"), at least if you believe Ariel's comment regarding Ursula. So, any other interaction is most likely going to have to occur farther in the past, which limits it to Rumple and Killian.

      Cruella is somewhat of a wildcard, though.  We know nothing, really, about her past. Based on the underlying story, She will have a past with Pongo, which leads to a potential background with Jiminy.

      Back to the topic, It makes the most sense that Ursula would have had interactions with Killian in the Past, probably before he departed to Neverland, and maybe even before he became a pirate.  But I would at least leave the door open for other twists, since we know that A & E love to do that type of thing.

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    • Honestly, w/ the flashback of TQOD all together, posing, seems like they hung around a lot.  Very well possible Hook may know them ALL, but have a specific history one of the gals.

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    • There is something eating at me and this is kind of somewhat off-topic. Ursula's last lines in the mid-season finale mentioned something about it being difficult asking her for help. I know it was a reference to the past when Rumple rejected her and the other two. But I also think there was a fallout between the QODs. When you have three powerful, evil, sorceresses. There is bound to be at least one fight. Or huge one. I think they got into a fight in the EF managed not to kill each other, but vowed to never work together unless it was urgent. Which can explain why Ursula is working at an aquarium, and Maleficent was by herself for a period of time. Because she had already split up with the other two. My theory is a little far out there but still possible.

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    • I'm thinking that maybe Killian was lying about what happened with him and his father. I have a theory where Mr. Jones (that's what I'm callin' him now) tried to cheer Killian up after his mother's tragic death or something, and they go sailing. A huge storm comes, there's only one spot on the lifeboat left, and since the lifeboat can't hold any more people than just one more or it'll practically burst, Mr. Jones shows his true colors and leaves Killian behind. Ursula then pities Killian and saves him from the storm, *add in storyline here*, Killian returns home to Liam and they basically become the first version of Ava and Nicholas Zimmer.

      And the reason for Killian lying about Mr. Jones' departure from the family is simple. He would much rather have people think that his father was some cool fugitive who stole the King's crown jewels than the moron who abandoned him on a ship in the middle of a raging storm.

      And that's what I think Killian's connection to TQOD is.

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    • Colin recently said he'd love them to do a "young young Killian backstory" and explore Killian's father and what became of him. So who knows, maybe we'll get that one day.

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    • That backstory fits with all of the other bad parenting backstories we've seen on the show.  And assuming that Ariel is actually related to Ursula, it could also show where Ariel gets her penchant for rescuing humans.

      However, A & E are going to have to really cast well for a young Killian Jones. (though given their success with Cora, Snow, and Emma, I'm not too concerned).

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote: That backstory fits with all of the other bad parenting backstories we've seen on the show.  And assuming that Ariel is actually related to Ursula, it could also show where Ariel gets her penchant for rescuing humans.

      However, A & E are going to have to really cast well for a young Killian Jones. (though given their success with Cora, Snow, and Emma, I'm not too concerned).

      I keep thinking of him and Liam being like Peter and Edmund from the Narnia series. But since Skander Keynes is like 21, that wouldn't work :\

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    • DZAV21 wrote:
      Colin recently said he'd love them to do a "young young Killian backstory" and explore Killian's father and what became of him. So who knows, maybe we'll get that one day.

      There is a possibility we will see that, this season.

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    • I think that Hook has a past with Maleficent. How else would he have known that he was fighting her when they were beneath the library? I think that during his return to the Enchanted Forest from Neverland, he asked around about Rumplestiltskin's dagger and he was probably pointed in the direction of Maleficent, who then pointed him in Belle's direction, who just happened to be being held prisoner by Regina.

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    • I like that idea, though again, it could have been any of TQoD that directed Killian towards Regina's tower to find Belle.  The key here is that someone would first have to know that Belle was of some importance to Rumple.  And even though most people knew that she was his servant, only a very few people would have discovered that she is also a weakness that can be exploited.

      Going this route, though, I think it highly probably that it is, in fact, Maleficent, since whoever it is that points Killian towards Belle would not only have to know about Belle, but also have knowledge on Regina, and Maleficent is the best candidate to fit this category.

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:
      I like that idea, though again, it could have been any of TQoD that directed Killian towards Regina's tower to find Belle.  The key here is that someone would first have to know that Belle was of some importance to Rumple.  And even though most people knew that she was his servant, only a very few people would have discovered that she is also a weakness that can be exploited.

      Going this route, though, I think it highly probably that it is, in fact, Maleficent, since whoever it is that points Killian towards Belle would not only have to know about Belle, but also have knowledge on Regina, and Maleficent is the best candidate to fit this category.

      Why would they need information on Regina to point him in Belle's direction? As long as the one giving Hook the information knew where Belle was, and knew Belle was of some importance to Rumple, it doesn't matter if they knew anything about Regina (except maybe where she lived, since that"s the place where Belle actually is...) So it could still have been any of the Queens...

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    • Well, considering that Belle was Regina's "Guest" when Hook came back to the EF, it would have to be someone that actually knew she was holding her.  Keep in mind that Rumple thought Belle was dead, and given his uncanny collection of knowledge, it would take quite a bit of active work to make sure there was not even a whisper that would betray Belle's presence. So Regina probably did not tell anyone.  But she possibly might have confided in her one friend, particularly knowing that neither was a fan of Rumple's.

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      Dan Fox wrote: I am betting on him having a history with Maleficent since he knew who she was despite the fact that Regina didn't actually say her name. If not her, my second guess is Ursula. He spent most of his life on sea. Ursula basically ruled the sea. They probably crossed paths once. As for him and Cruella, I doubt they crossed paths. Unless he creators confirmed he had connections to all three. Even then, I got no clue what connection they could have.

      He could have just recognized Mal from somewhere, doesn't mean he actually met her. My bet's on Ursula (Cruella makes no sense whatsoever) Oh and DZAV21, what do you think about the combination of Maleficent, Ursula and Cruella as.....Malursella?!?!?!?! I just randomly came up with that :)

      Sounds like a villain from Power Rangers.:...... Love It!

      I made it up before Heroes and Villains aired, so I was hoping they would have some sort of shop together in SB called "Malursella INC." or something :) But Powers Rangers villain does come to mind...


      Go! Go! SB Rangers! xD

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    • QuinnHeartly wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:

      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      Dan Fox wrote: I am betting on him having a history with Maleficent since he knew who she was despite the fact that Regina didn't actually say her name. If not her, my second guess is Ursula. He spent most of his life on sea. Ursula basically ruled the sea. They probably crossed paths once. As for him and Cruella, I doubt they crossed paths. Unless he creators confirmed he had connections to all three. Even then, I got no clue what connection they could have.

      He could have just recognized Mal from somewhere, doesn't mean he actually met her. My bet's on Ursula (Cruella makes no sense whatsoever) Oh and DZAV21, what do you think about the combination of Maleficent, Ursula and Cruella as.....Malursella?!?!?!?! I just randomly came up with that :)

      Sounds like a villain from Power Rangers.:...... Love It!

      I made it up before Heroes and Villains aired, so I was hoping they would have some sort of shop together in SB called "Malursella INC." or something :) But Powers Rangers villain does come to mind...


      Go! Go! SB Rangers! xD

      OOH! That should be a SB show, right after Good Morning Storybrooke :)

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    • I'm voting for Cruella. Partially because Ursula's connection just seems too obivous (Plus her presence was so illusive, not even the people that worship her knew her to be real). I don't know, both Killian and Cruella just seem to have this sensual chemistry about them which would make a great backstory. Maybe she is somehow connected to Killian before became a pirate. Heck, maybe even before he was a sailor like being Liam's wife or maybe she was the one who taught him how to seduce women. The possibilities are endless!!


      As for the immortality part,

      - the writers have confirmed that Cruella has some magic which is in the form of her furs.

      - we have seen so many greek myths in the show already (medusa etc.) most recently the golden fleece in Heroes & Villians. So why not THE GOLDEN FUR of the Nammean Lion from hercules. (Which was said to kept its wearer invulnerable, maybe it does so by providing immortality)

      - she appears to be the most contemporary lookking villian (her clothes & car). Which is what I would expect from a vain immortal, keeping up with modern fashion.

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    • MagicKaty1 wrote:

      QuinnHeartly wrote:


      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:


      MagicKaty1 wrote:

      Dan Fox wrote: I am betting on him having a history with Maleficent since he knew who she was despite the fact that Regina didn't actually say her name. If not her, my second guess is Ursula. He spent most of his life on sea. Ursula basically ruled the sea. They probably crossed paths once. As for him and Cruella, I doubt they crossed paths. Unless he creators confirmed he had connections to all three. Even then, I got no clue what connection they could have.

      He could have just recognized Mal from somewhere, doesn't mean he actually met her. My bet's on Ursula (Cruella makes no sense whatsoever) Oh and DZAV21, what do you think about the combination of Maleficent, Ursula and Cruella as.....Malursella?!?!?!?! I just randomly came up with that :)

      Sounds like a villain from Power Rangers.:...... Love It!
      I made it up before Heroes and Villains aired, so I was hoping they would have some sort of shop together in SB called "Malursella INC." or something :) But Powers Rangers villain does come to mind...

      Go! Go! SB Rangers! xD

      OOH! That should be a SB show, right after Good Morning Storybrooke :)


      And after that will be the Bold And the Magical, followed by Evil And the Restless. xD

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    • Oh I just can't help myself....... Uhm......


      "Today on The Evil and the Restless........... Snow White is eagerly awaiting her wedding to Prince Charming but what she doesn't know know is her beloved has been locked away in a dungeon on Skull Island and has been replaced by his evil twin brother James.... Dun dun dun!.... "Meanwhile" Rumplestiltskin has murdered his wife and placed her inside the wedding cake.... "Meanwhile at the hospital" The Evil Queen and The Swan Princess have both just given birth. The Evil Queen refuses to tell Robin Hood because he won't leave his wife and The Swan Princess is trying hard to push Captain Hook away because she never wanted any of this.... But what neither of them know yet is that The Evil Queen's baby was stillborn and her crazy smothering b*tch mother switched her baby for The Swan Princess's..... Dun dun dun...... "Meanwhile in Neverland" Tinkerbell is nursing a man back to health so that he may return to Storybrooke for revenge on all, a man thought long dead....... Peter Pan... Dun dun dun!!!!!". "Tune in tonight at 6:00 PM for your daily Sly Fox News with weather forecaster Henny Penny...."


      I watched a lot of soaps with my grandmother (god rest her soul) when I was a kid so I know how they work. Haha

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    • DZAV21 wrote: Oh I just can't help myself....... Uhm......


      "Today on The Evil and the Restless........... Snow White is eagerly awaiting her wedding to Prince Charming but what she doesn't know know is her beloved has been locked away in a dungeon on Skull Island and has been replaced by his evil twin brother James.... Dun dun dun!.... "Meanwhile" Rumplestiltskin has murdered his wife and placed her inside the wedding cake.... "Meanwhile at the hospital" The Evil Queen and The Swan Princess have both just given birth. The Evil Queen refuses to tell Robin Hood because he won't leave his wife and The Swan Princess is trying hard to push Captain Hook away because she never wanted any of this.... But what neither of them know yet is that The Evil Queen's baby was stillborn and her crazy smothering b*tch mother switched her baby for The Swan Princess's..... Dun dun dun...... "Meanwhile in Neverland" Tinkerbell is nursing a man back to health so that he may return to Storybrooke for revenge on all, a man thought long dead....... Peter Pan... Dun dun dun!!!!!". "Tune in tonight at 6:00 PM for your daily Sly Fox News with weather forecaster Henny Penny...."


      I watched a lot of soaps with my grandmother (god rest her soul) when I was a kid so I know how they work. Haha

      I would NOT watch that show! Rumple killing Belle, Regina stealing a CS baby, Em wanting nothing to do with Killian, Charming stuck in Neverland, Pan still alive... sounds like a nightmare!

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    • Actually, in defense of DZ, it was Cora that stole the CS baby.

      And I agree, that show sounds like a nightmare.

      However, I fail to see what any of this has to do with Killian having a past with one of TQoD.

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    • Haha I know I know it has nothing to do with the thread Hmcooper4.... But when Quinn suggested it I just couldn't resist.... Haha ;)

      MK1, darlin don't ever watch a soap opera if you don't like that because that's the plot of about every single one. They recycle it over and over again they just use different characters. There's always a dramatic wedding with a murder, always to women pregnant at the same time. One from a affair with a married man and the other from a random ONS that wants nothing to do with either of them. There's always a baby switch and don't get me started on villain's that come back to life. Heck nobody dies on a soap.... Every now and then they'll throw in a hostage situation and a grand party that will last for mouths but that pretty much sums up all soaps. Haha and yes they are nightmares.....

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    • what i don't get is how hook knew mal in 2x20

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    • Ouat man wrote:
      what i don't get is how hook knew mal in 2x20

      Well, Maleficent is a famous Sorceress and quite old so I'm not surprise if he heard of her.

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    • A Spy in the Mirror
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