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  • I think he (or maybe even she! Have they ever addressed to him as him?) is important enough to have his own page. He's always mentionned when talking about the hat and appears to have powers beyond those of Rumplestiltskin.

    Plus he's mentionned in many articles around here without actually explaining who he is.

    Has a character that has never physically appeared in the show yet we know exists and has a degree of importance ever had a page? (Peter Pan comes to mind)

    I'm sure the Lost Wiki had a page about Jacob before he was formally introduced or how the Arrow Wiki had a page for Ra's al-Ghul before we physically saw him.

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    • Am I allowed to suspect this Sorcerer is Master Yen Sid? Just a suspicion.

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    • We don't know for sure Adam and Eddy is going to use him. Maybe it's Merlin from Camelot.

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    • Mesmermann wrote:
      We don't know for sure Adam and Eddy is going to use him. Maybe it's Merlin from Camelot.

      I'm not sure if this would be happen, but it would be neat if the Sorcerer was Dumbledore 

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    • To me, a character that hasn't yet appeared in screen and has been mentioned a couple of times is not enough to warrant a page. If we use this method of creating a page, do you mean to say it should be done for every other character that's been mentioned a number of times and has never appeared within the show? What would help is if it's known as a clear fact if the sorcerer is actually going to make a physical appearance on the show. Like, a confirmation of what episode or if he's being cast. 

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    • No. We do not know if he even exists XD

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    • Charmed-Jay wrote:
      Am I allowed to suspect this Sorcerer is Master Yen Sid? Just a suspicion.

      Adam & Eddie have confirmed that the Sorcerer is NOT from the Fantiasa film; so no, not Yen Sid

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    • After watching the mid-season finale, it looked like a little, well almost the obvious clue TS was also TW, but I'm not gonna jump to any conclusions, bc Rumple told Hook that the abandoned mansion belonged to TS, but then Henry found the secret room later on in the mansion that belongs to TW... now if that's not a coincidence, then I don't know what is... bc I'm not sure if A&E have confirmed this yet, if TS is also TW. So until then, I'm not saying anymore about this. It just seems so obvious that A&E would make them both the same person, and ofc it would save alot of time for auditioning two people, for those two specific roles, since this show and their characters, well TS could be a EF character, yet he could also be a LWM character of TW. idk :(

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    • No, I think it is too early to make a page for him. But he could be listed in the List of Characters page.

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    • DarKingdomHearts wrote: No, I think it is too early to make a page for him. But he could be listed in the List of Characters page.

      Good idea, I agree.

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    • I agree that he should be mentioned in the List of Characters page too but not his own page yet.

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    • XOXO:P wrote:
      After watching the mid-season finale, it looked like a little, well almost the obvious clue TS was also TW, but I'm not gonna jump to any conclusions, bc Rumple told Hook that the abandoned mansion belonged to TS, but then Henry found the secret room later on in the mansion that belongs to TW... now if that's not a coincidence, then I don't know what is... bc I'm not sure if A&E have confirmed this yet, if TS is also TW. So until then, I'm not saying anymore about this. It just seems so obvious that A&E would make them both the same person, and ofc it would save alot of time for auditioning two people, for those two specific roles, since this show and their characters, well TS could be a EF character, yet he could also be a LWM character of TW. idk :(

      Adam and Eddy were asked if The Sorcerer and The Writer were the same person, and they basically said we'll find out in the second half of the season. That being said, I believe they will be the same person, and the person will be Merlin. Also, I agree with most everyone we can wait on a page, since we will be making it during 4B anyway.

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    • I think that eveything we know about him is so vague that it could only be a stub. 


      BTW, how cool would it be if it was Balthazaar (Nick Cage)?

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    • I think we could I mean it is obvious that he exisists. His apprentence was already shown so it is conformed that he exsists, but maybe making a page right now is a little early

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    • Sydsorbet wrote: I think we could I mean it is obvious that he exisists. His apprentence was already shown so it is conformed that he exsists, but maybe making a page right now is a little early

      No, it is not obvious nor confirmed. The Sorcerer might be the Apprentice himself. Or he might be just someone else in disguise. Nothing is obvious nor confirmed untill it trully is. :D

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    • Even though I would love to see a page I agree that we can't really say about the Sorcerer and just have to wait for casting calls and whatever else

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    • ROSSELLA1 wrote:
      I think that eveything we know about him is so vague that it could only be a stub. 


      BTW, how cool would it be if it was Balthazaar (Nick Cage)?

      Epicly awesome for sure! I am personally leaning towards Dastan though {Prince of Persia}

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    • Teyilia wrote:

      ROSSELLA1 wrote:
      I think that eveything we know about him is so vague that it could only be a stub. 


      BTW, how cool would it be if it was Balthazaar (Nick Cage)?

      Epicly awesome for sure! I am personally leaning towards Dastan though {Prince of Persia}

      Either of those would be great. Dastan is a new one and I am personally for it!

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    • I agree with DarKingdomHearts and Applegirl.

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    • Well there could be pages added for characters that haven't been introduced but have just been mentioned and could be listed as the lore of the world until they are introduced...not their own character page yet.

      For instance, the king with the mirror (mentioned by Anna and Ingrid), the black fairy, and the sorcerer have all been mentioned a few times so they atleast exist in the world as folklore or have a history with characters. If its mentioned, its canon technically, right? So why shouldn't it be included somehow on the wiki?

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    • Debate is over :) We have a confirmation the Sorcerer will appear in the second half of the season ^^

      http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/12/26/once-upon-time-hot-seat-spoilers-2/

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    • Okay, but is it possible to still talk about future examples and the ones I listed?

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    • Doublebwl wrote:
      Well there could be pages added for characters that haven't been introduced but have just been mentioned and could be listed as the lore of the world until they are introduced...not their own character page yet.

      For instance, the king with the mirror (mentioned by Anna and Ingrid), the black fairy, and the sorcerer have all been mentioned a few times so they atleast exist in the world as folklore or have a history with characters. If its mentioned, its canon technically, right? So why shouldn't it be included somehow on the wiki?

      The king with a mirror was just a legend, although I suppose the legend itself could have a page. Something like "Arendelle legend". The Black Fairy we should wait, as it very well could be Maleficent or someone else like Morgan La Fey.

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    • Well, the article confirms the Black Fairy will appear, but does not say when. So...

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    • No. The article says someday we will know her identity, but it does not say if she will appear or not.

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    • So the Sorcerer is confirmed, but he/she is not someone we have already met yet ? Hmmm... with three villains plus the Sorcerer being in the back half of season four, I wonder if there will be any stories left to tell after this season ?

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    • That's not because a character appears at a moment that means its story is over. Look Maleficent and Ursula

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    • Lady Junky wrote:
      No. The article says someday we will know her identity, but it does not say if she will appear or not.

      Yeah, but how are we going to know her identity if we don't meet her? You think they are just going to mention that a famous literary character is the Black Fairy in passing, and then just move on?

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    • A Spy in the Mirror
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