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  • Felix backed Pan up 200%. Never doubting or going against him. Which makes me wonder how influenced he was by him. If Pan talked an unbelievable game and Felix believed him. I also wonder if Felix knew that Rumple was Pan's son, Bae was his grandson, and Henry was his great grandson. I feel that if he knew the true twistedness of Pan, he wouldn't have stood by him.

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    • No way. I believe Felix knew everything there was to know about Pan. I think that he is just as twisted as Pan, but protrays himself in a different way. The way I saw it, Felix is unmovingly loyal to him because he loves Pan (not to ship them or anything, but seriously, bromance) and he respects him as if he were a god. (JUST SAYING. TEAM PETER ALL THE WAY. HE ISN'T DEAD. *flails*)

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    • Well for me, shipping all the way, and also yas, Team Peter.


      No but seriously, Felix knew Pan just as much as Pan knew Felix. They're best friends, even if they maybe never made it official, and even though I ship them, I see that it' not canon, but there is definetely a lot of platonic love going on.

      To make it simple, they're both twisted, in their own ways.

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    • YUUUSH X3 I totally ship dem now tho lolz x3

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    • Well, though I don't usually ship. I did ship Peter and Henry. Especially that scene where he was behind Henry aiming the bow for him, like typical boy-girl movie interaction. Of course that was before ...ahem Malcolm *cough

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    • Eskaver wrote:
      Well, though I don't usually ship. I did ship Peter and Henry. Especially that scene where he was behind Henry aiming the bow for him, like typical boy-girl movie interaction. Of course that was before ...ahem Malcolm *cough


      I know this feeling boy. I had the same u.u The impression the show betrayed us.

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    • I just simply wished there was no familial relationship. If anyone rewatches season three without connecting Pan = Malcolm, all the Pan-Henry scenes show that. The whole "give me your heart, I need your heart" and "I wanted your heart, but your mother took it away from me." But then again, Henry was supposedly ten and Peter was like an immortal 16-18 yr old boy... My only ship, besides Snowing at times.

      Peter and Felix were okay. I think their relationship was more one-sided. I see it as a henchman falling for the boss, ...um in loyalty of course.

      If they ever showed a Bae and Peter relationship, if it was nice, I'm sure it probably would explode Henry x Pan lol.

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    • I got the impression that Felix was blindly in love with Pan, and Pan knew and exploited that. Very one sided.

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    • It was forshadowed in 3x04 that Pan's needed Felix's heart for the Dark Curse because Felix was the only Lost Boy that wasn't dancing in the last scene. He felt loved and wanted by Pan so he never heard the music. 

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    • I noticed that too. Which makes Pan the most diabolical character in the series.

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    • I never connected those two things together. I always wondered why he didn't dance along. So, he felt loved. I also love that it was one of the friendly-loyalty things being true love, unless he loved him in other ways....

      I wish we saw more of them because I don't have the slightest clue why he's so loyal when it seems like no one else is. Sadly, I have a slight disconnect when it comes to Malcolm and Peter Pan. Malcolm seemed like a slightly decent guy, but didn't want to take the responsibility of being a father. When he turned to his younger self, he looked sad that he sent Rumple away and maybe actually still loved Rumple and wanted him to side with him. But Peter Pan to others was simply cruel and diabolical and almost sociopathic.

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    • I know what you mean with the Panry relationship, before I watched s3 I got spoilered via tumblr and thought it to be the perfect relationship, but then I found out that Pan is his great-grandfather, so there's that. Even though they still make a pretty good pairing and I still ship them - because if he's Pan and not Malcolm, I don't really see him related to Henry. Does that make sense?


      Moving on, we have Panlix.                                                                                                       And while I can totally see what you mean with the whole "one-sided love" thing, I still say no. Because maybe Pan didn't love Felix as much as vice versa, but I still think he loved him. After all, the curse simply doesn't work if you don't take the heart from a person you love. (or, as it says hereThe heart of "the thing you love most".)                                                                              Oh yes and also the thing with the music. Felix didn't dance around the fire with the other because he simply didn't hear the music anymore. He heard it once, when Peter picked him up first, but after a while he simply didn't feel lost anymore, because he now had Pan.

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    • I agree that the curse says the thing you love most, excluding yourself. Pan probably loves none, but loves/ values Felix a bit more than everyone else. I think the curse excludes the caster (since otherwise it wouldn't make since) and Pan likely loved himself the most and besides himself he loved/ valued Felix above others.

      My headcanon is that since Pan can't actually sacrifice Rumple's heart (since he's immortal) they just planned a substitute. I could care less what Pan says, but I do think Malcolm loved Rumple to a degree. It's not like Malcolm abandoned Rumple in the middle of nowhere or left baby Rumple to die in the woods. Malcolm learned he wasn't ready or capable and left him in capable hands. You can even see the sorrow in Malcolm and then Pan's eyes when he let go of Rumple's hand.

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    • Pan/Malcolm just wanted to be free of his son. Which really it him in the back hard. Cora also abandoned her child (Zelena) too for selfish reasons. "Giving me MY best chance." In her words. In the end they both died and could have had happiness. Pan would have still had Felix and Cora could have had both of her daughters. But the power was more important than any sort of love they had for others.

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    • I think he probably knew more of Pan's dark side than the other Lost Boys, because he could handle it, and the other boys would have run away if they saw that side of Pan. I'm one of the people who have the theory that Felix ended up falling hard for Pan. You could see heartbreak on his face when he realized that he was gonna have to die so Pan could enact the Dark Curse.

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