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  • Are Aurora and the others who got turned into flying monkeys dead after the shooting in A Curious Thing? They just evaporated when they got shot. Does this mean the end of Aurora and Phillip? And what about their baby? I just can't believe they would kill those charactars off already...

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    • highly doubt Philip and Aurora are dead. Same for Walsh.

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    • No I am very sure they weren't one of the monkeys Emma, Hook, Regina and Charming killed. If they were they would probably mention it by, for instence, snow being like "oh my, we killed Aurora and Philip" but she didn't so I guess WWoW just has a lot of monkeys :)

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    • Don't forget that they didn't have the past year back untill after that moment.

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    • wait is it possible to make them bakc into humans cause if it is i have a thory that they'll make the wizard of oz (sorry forgot his name) into a human and he will help them destroy the wicked witch

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    • Beinqunique wrote:
      wait is it possible to make them bakc into humans

      Jason Burkart who plays Little John, is credited for 3.20.

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    • Well Walsh was able to turn into his "human form" in New York, so it's possible Zelena just has a few of them locked up in her attic or cellar or wherever she keeps them. If Walsh can turn into a human again, they probably can too. Also I doubt they'd kill of Princess Aurora and her prince. They've never killed a princess on the show (unless you'd count Marian as one, but she's not as important/only made one appearance)

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    • Even if those are not Phillip and Aurora, they are SOMEONE. I felt horrified when the good guys killed them all.

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    • Well, we know that one person is Roland's stuffed monkey... 

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    • Yes. That one has a scar similar to Walsh's, but unless he turned back from stuffed monkey to human it does not make sense.

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    • Aurora will appear in the second part of tomorrow's season finale, "There's No Place Like Home", but I do not know if it will be a flashback or not.

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    • Actually, this is a pretty good question. Little John and Aurora (and presumably Phillip) were all reverted back into humans. I wonder... when the monkeys "disappeared into smoke", were they actually being teleported somewhere? Like the ghosts in Pac-Man? 'Cause I don't think Walsh is dead. At all. And presumably whoever was Roland's stuffed animal was turned back into a regular monkey when everyone moved to Storybrooke (like Smee becoming human again when the Curse was broken)

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    • Well, Emma said something interesting in the last episode about that all her exes are dead. She said something like Graham, Neal, and even Walsh. So that would mean that Walsh is dead. Or at least Emma thinks that...

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    • Fred-V wrote:
      Well, Emma said something interesting in the last episode about that all her exes are dead. She said something like Graham, Neal, and even Walsh. So that would mean that Walsh is dead. Or at least Emma thinks that...

      We actually don't know that Walsh is dead at all. She saw him disappear into a puff of smoke in New York. That doesn't scream death to me. It screams retreat. I'm sure Walsh is very much alive and well in Storybrooke, hiding from everyone. I just wanna know how Zelena sent him to this world in the first place...

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    • Well, I'm not saying Walsh is dead, but Emma literally said it. That was my point. We never saw his body so I agree, we don't know if he's dead, but Emma sure as hell thinks that, so probably something happened offscreen. And there's a big chance he's one of the monkeys they killed...

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    • Took forever to find other people who are concerned about this! If they want to go with the monkeys being dead, then I'm gonna need an episode devoted to it. I will never be satisfied with just a line here and there about Walsh from Emma. The monkeys were never really explained when they were featured and their storyline felt like it wasn't wrapped up at the end of the Zelena arc.

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    • Aqua42 wrote:
      Took forever to find other people who are concerned about this! If they want to go with the monkeys being dead, then I'm gonna need an episode devoted to it. I will never be satisfied with just a line here and there about Walsh from Emma. The monkeys were never really explained when they were featured and their storyline felt like it wasn't wrapped up at the end of the Zelena arc.

      They weren't... Only Aurora (not even Philip! :O ) and Little (HA!) John...

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    • Also, I believe some dwarves had been turned into monkeys. Not 100% sure, but at least they were missing. It's a shame they never explained what happened to them. They just faded away when they were shot. The only one we really saw being turned back into human was Little John. And we know Aurora lives, and Philip too. But it's weird and they should've explained it.

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    • They said all familiar faces are back to human form, alive. Probably all, excepting Walsh.

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    • Killian Jones wrote:
      They said all familiar faces are back to human form, alive. Probably all, excepting Walsh.

      If all familiar faces are back to normal, that probably includes Walsh. But he'll most likely never show up again. And I will never get over the theory that suggests that Jefferson was originally supposed to be the Wizard. Or the theory that Frankenstein was. Either one would've been hilarious.

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    • Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:

      Killian Jones wrote:
      They said all familiar faces are back to human form, alive. Probably all, excepting Walsh.

      If all familiar faces are back to normal, that probably includes Walsh. But he'll most likely never show up again. And I will never get over the theory that suggests that Jefferson was originally supposed to be the Wizard. Or the theory that Frankenstein was. Either one would've been hilarious.

      Indeed, I would have rather seen Frankenstein as the wizard instead of Walsh, but meh

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    • Killian Jones wrote:

      Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:

      Killian Jones wrote:
      They said all familiar faces are back to human form, alive. Probably all, excepting Walsh.
      If all familiar faces are back to normal, that probably includes Walsh. But he'll most likely never show up again. And I will never get over the theory that suggests that Jefferson was originally supposed to be the Wizard. Or the theory that Frankenstein was. Either one would've been hilarious.
      Indeed, I would have rather seen Frankenstein as the wizard instead of Walsh, but meh

      I would've been fine with Walsh as long as we'd gotten Emma meeting him in his furniture store, him arriving from Kansas to Oz, what he did for Zelena, how he got to our world (which btw is a HUGE PLOT HOLE) and what happened afterwards. He was such a minor character (though not nearly as minor as the other witches or even Dorothy herself!) that we didn't invest in him...

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    • Not really that big of a plot hole, he probably travelled back to our world the same way he got to Oz. At least in multiple tellings of Oz, the Wizard left by his hot air balloon. I think that there is a chance that Walsh is alive, if the monkeys that were shot just reappeared somewhere. Emma is the only one telling us that he died. Walsh being alive could add to the narrative for Captain Swan, if they wanted to. I mean, there is a reason why they were together for 8 months and she considered marrying Walsh when he proposed.

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    • Aqua42 wrote:
      Not really that big of a plot hole, he probably travelled back to our world the same way he got to Oz. At least in multiple tellings of Oz, the Wizard left by his hot air balloon. I think that there is a chance that Walsh is alive, if the monkeys that were shot just reappeared somewhere. Emma is the only one telling us that he died. Walsh being alive could add to the narrative for Captain Swan, if they wanted to. I mean, there is a reason why they were together for 8 months and she considered marrying Walsh when he proposed.

      True. But travel between the EF and LWM was completely cut-off for that one year. Travel between the magical worlds was possible, maybe even from other magical worlds to the LWM, but Walsh was definitely in the EF with Wicked...

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    • How did she get to EF then? It could be that she travelled from EF to Oz with him and sent him off there. Either way, they handled that plot poorly and rushed through the wrap up so fast that there was no way they could have properly shown the fallout of the monkeys that were shot while trying to do the two episode set up for Frozen.

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    • Aqua42 wrote:
      How did she get to EF then? It could be that she travelled from EF to Oz with him and sent him off there. Either way, they handled that plot poorly and rushed through the wrap up so fast that there was no way they could have properly shown the fallout of the monkeys that were shot while trying to do the two episode set up for Frozen.

      It was always the plan to kill off Zelena in Kansas. All that changed was the last scene of Going Home, which as we all now know, is Elsa coming out of the urn. So they'd always planned to rush through Oz like it never happened.

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    • I don't think Oz was planned out in advance though. As far as I remember, there wasn't a lead in to Zelena's arc like there was with Cora, Neverland, and Frozen. It felt like they knew they wanted to do Frozen, but needed something before that to lead into the reason why Elsa would be in Storybrooke.

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    • There's a thing with flying to other realms. Remember when the Jones's flew their ship to Neverland? Maybe walsh flew to New York.

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    • And Zelena has her slippers... Had... Hopefully not had anymore...

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    • A Spy in the Mirror
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