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  • I say, this is the best one yet. I was starting to wonder after the sub-par previous two episodes. You guys?

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    • Absolutely wonderful.

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    • Fantastic!

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    • Hook working on his father skills, priceless.... And next season there all going to be in an alternate reality! Omg!

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    • DZAV21 wrote:
      Hook working on his father skills, priceless.... And next season there all going to be in an alternate reality! Omg!

      What do you mean an alternate reality....?

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    • I was quite disappointed with the showdown though. It was far too one-sided. I knew Regina was going to lose given how confident Zelena was and, well, this ep isn't nearly anyway near the end of the season but I was hoping for a bit more of a fight.

      I don't get the thing about Zelena turning green from envy. If that happened to all dark magicians, wouldn't Regina have turned red or purple with rage long since. Is it because of Zelena's raw potential or something to do with her father.

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    • Jmelnick wrote:
      DZAV21 wrote:
      Hook working on his father skills, priceless.... And next season there all going to be in an alternate reality! Omg!
      What do you mean an alternate reality....?


      I mean by the season end Zelena will send them all back in time and alter the events that happened so she gets everything she ever wanted. And most of next season will be Em trying to set things right.

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    • Great episode.... one of the best of the season, so far.

      I loved that OUaT paid tribute to the 1939 film, with the design of Oz. I literally screamed, when Zelena announce she wants to rewrite the past. It seems those time-travel theories, due to recent spoiler pics, might be true.

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    • Regina giving Robin her heart latterly, awesome! Though something tells me Zelena is going to get it and take away there happiness by the time the seasons over.

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    • I love all the episodes, and I always can't wait for the next and the next, etc. So I don't matter :P lol

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    • DZAV21 wrote:
      Jmelnick wrote:
      DZAV21 wrote:
      Hook working on his father skills, priceless.... And next season there all going to be in an alternate reality! Omg!
      What do you mean an alternate reality....?

      I mean by the season end Zelena will send them all back in time and alter the events that happened so she gets everything she ever wanted. And most of next season will be Em trying to set things right.


      Where did you find that out.On thing with Eddy and Adam they said it would be a whole new villian for season four.If your thinking about the theory about please dont act like it's a fact because it's not.

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    • I wish the wicked witch would send them back only that regina and henry must appear too since probably henry wouldn't be born and regina either

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    • This is what I got from the episode. 1. Zelena wants to alter the events of time. 2. Emma is being beyond selfish because she thinks she can take care of the problem then take Henry and abandon her family without batting an eye. 3. Outlaw Queen may end up topping Rumbelle in the adorable factor. 4. Rumple's the Scarecrow, Regina's the Tinman, Charming is the Lion. 5. Robin's in big trouble when Zelena learns he has Regina's heart both literally & metaphoricly. 6. Something tells me we haven't seen the last of those shoes, 7. I don't know who's getting married in the finale but I'm betting something really bad happens at that wedding. 8. Zelena needs to start seeing a therapist. 9. That awkward moment you realize Em was going to marry the wizard of oz turned into a flying monkey. 10. When the time finally comes (and it will) Killian's going to make a wonderful father

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    • Toma Cre wrote: I was quite disappointed with the showdown though. It was far too one-sided. I knew Regina was going to lose given how confident Zelena was and, well, this ep isn't nearly anyway near the end of the season but I was hoping for a bit more of a fight.

      I don't get the thing about Zelena turning green from envy. If that happened to all dark magicians, wouldn't Regina have turned red or purple with rage long since. Is it because of Zelena's raw potential or something to do with her father.

      All the Zelena-Regina confrontations have been letdowns for me. Too middle/high school catfight-ish and very cheesy.

      I also don't get the green with envy plot. Everyone gets envious, so why was Zelena the only one to turn green? My thought was that maybe it's a consequence or side effect of using/wearing the Silver Slippers. I guess it could be tied to her father and powers too though. If so, I suppose Walsh knew because of whatever magical object allowed him to look into Zelena's past.

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    • Toma Cre wrote: I was quite disappointed with the showdown though. It was far too one-sided. I knew Regina was going to lose given how confident Zelena was and, well, this ep isn't nearly anyway near the end of the season but I was hoping for a bit more of a fight.

      I don't get the thing about Zelena turning green from envy. If that happened to all dark magicians, wouldn't Regina have turned red or purple with rage long since. Is it because of Zelena's raw potential or something to do with her father.

      I think it's a combination of her being as magicaly powerfulas she is, and how envy of Regina became her sole reason for existing. Envy was all she was. Possible reason for why it didn't happen to Regina is the Zelena seems to have been born magical, and maybe is not entirely human. Other theory,it didn't start until Rumple pointed it out. Maybe he was messing with her to tech her a lesson?



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    • DZAV21 wrote:
      This is what I got from the episode. 1. Zelena wants to alter the events of time. 2. Emma is being beyond selfish because she thinks she can take care of the problem then take Henry and abandon her family without batting an eye. 3. Outlaw Queen may end up topping Rumbelle in the adorable factor. 4. Rumple's the Scarecrow, Regina's the Tinman, Charming is the Lion. 5. Robin's in big trouble when Zelena learns he has Regina's heart both literally & metaphoricly. 6. Something tells me we haven't seen the last of those shoes, 7. I don't know who's getting married in the finale but I'm betting something really bad happens at that wedding. 8. Zelena needs to start seeing a therapist. 9. That awkward moment you realize Em was going to marry the wizard of oz turned into a flying monkey. 10. When the time finally comes (and it will) Killian's going to make a wonderful father

      2. If Emma were selfish, she wouldn't even be back in Storybrooke. I think she just wants Henry to be safe and live a life free of witches and magic and curses.

      4. Ever thought that maybe someone (from Oz) may have already tried to cast the spell that Zelena is attempting, and the Tinman, Scarecrow and Lion are the original characters who were the victims. Maybe the twist at the end is that everyone is already living in an alternate timeline. May explain why all the fairy tales we know are all screwed up.

      7. Is it confirmed that Aurora and Phillip are already married? They already have a baby on the way but with all the things that have been going on maybe they didn't have time for a formal ceremony yet.

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    • Mewiet wrote:

      All the Zelena-Regina confrontations have been letdowns for me. Too middle/high school catfight-ish and very cheesy.

      I also don't get the green with envy plot. Everyone gets envious, so why was Zelena the only one to turn green? My thought was that maybe it's a consequence or side effect of using/wearing the Silver Slippers. I guess it could be tied to her father and powers too though. If so, I suppose Walsh knew because of whatever magical object allowed him to look into Zelena's past.

      I think it has to do with the magic Zelena dealt in, and yes, it might be a side effect of the Silver Slippers. Remember when Regina went to Rumple asking for Cora's book? She said, "I don't care if it turns me green..." when Rumple warned her of the potency of the spells in the book. So "turning green with envy" would likely be a consequence of magic used, and is not necessarily true for all magic users.

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    • Toma Cre wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:
      This is what I got from the episode. 1. Zelena wants to alter the events of time. 2. Emma is being beyond selfish because she thinks she can take care of the problem then take Henry and abandon her family without batting an eye. 3. Outlaw Queen may end up topping Rumbelle in the adorable factor. 4. Rumple's the Scarecrow, Regina's the Tinman, Charming is the Lion. 5. Robin's in big trouble when Zelena learns he has Regina's heart both literally & metaphoricly. 6. Something tells me we haven't seen the last of those shoes, 7. I don't know who's getting married in the finale but I'm betting something really bad happens at that wedding. 8. Zelena needs to start seeing a therapist. 9. That awkward moment you realize Em was going to marry the wizard of oz turned into a flying monkey. 10. When the time finally comes (and it will) Killian's going to make a wonderful father

      2. If Emma were selfish, she wouldn't even be back in Storybrooke. I think she just wants Henry to be safe and live a life free of witches and magic and curses.

      4. Ever thought that maybe someone (from Oz) may have already tried to cast the spell that Zelena is attempting, and the Tinman, Scarecrow and Lion are the original characters who were the victims. Maybe the twist at the end is that everyone is already living in an alternate timeline. May explain why all the fairy tales we know are all screwed up.

      7. Is it confirmed that Aurora and Phillip are already married? They already have a baby on the way but with all the things that have been going on maybe they didn't have time for a formal ceremony yet.

      4. All I know is, if you're right about this, editing on character pages--not to mention timelines--is going to be a living nightmare.

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    • I think Zelena turned green because she only felt envy. There just wasn't any other feeling left in her body. Kind of like how Tinkerbell felt about Wendy in the original tale of Peter Pan. I seriously doubt it that it has something to do with the slippers. I just think they're there for the sake of the story (-> doesn't sound very dignified, but I don't think they're that important...)

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    • Tinkerbell was a fairy, and was small, thus only one emotion was allowed. Zelena isn't hand-sized. Iwould think that Zelena's envy was extremely strong, but not the only feeling, otherwise she would never have smiled in the episode or expressed irritation over Regina not having her heart in the witch fight.

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    • Wonderful episode. I really loved Robin's and Regina's scenes together.

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      StilI, I have a question:  Zelena needs the three known ingredients to cast her curse. A year passed in the Enchanted Forest. Wouldn't that be enough time to get the heart, brain and the courage required for the curse? Rumple's mind she even took in the EF, why not the other things, too. What prevent her from doing so?

      Considering it and consulting with  a friend I may have come to following conclusion:

      (please tell me, if you think otherwise)

      Zelena has brought our beloved chracters to Storybrooke, so Emma can't be a saviour. Emma can't be the saviour if she's inside the borders of Storybrooke when Zelena's curse (the one she's still collecting ingredients for) is enabled, right? She would be effected by Zelena's curse. Emma can't be a saviour then, although she's a product of true love.

      So the only things left to do now for  Zelena are,

      1.  getting David's and MM's child so that it can't get in her way (because it's likely the baby is also a product of true love)

      2. looking for Regina's heart.

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    • My favorite episode so far, way better than the neverland episodes :D

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    • Absolutely my most favorite episode of the entire show, to date.  Rebecca Mader absolutely killed it.  The WOZ fanatic in me was overjoyed w/ the writer's take on Oz.  I watched it twice.

      The "Second Chance"!!!  UGH.  I lOVE it.  Zelena is so, so wicked.  She might be one of my favorite TV villians of recent times. 

      OutlawQueen melted my heart.  They writing for their scenes is excellent.

      Hook - Pirate, take me away.  God, I hope his intentions are legit.  I always get this nagging feeling that there may be something up w/ him.  PLEASE NO!!!  Looking forward to his episode next week.

      The "Showdown" on Main Street became clear to me, the 2nd tiem I watched.  Regina had to let it be one-sided, in order to stay alive.  She knew Zelena would go for her heart.  So, getting slammed on Doc's Miata and smashed through the clock tower is nothing, compared to having your heart crushed by your half-sister.

      I also loved the reveal of how Zelena turned green because of her jealousy.

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    • I know the shoes were silver in the books, but I wish they had found a way to incorporate both the silver shoes and ruby slippers somehow, maybe they could have been silver, but ruby encrusted or they could have glown red when their power was used, just a small idea 

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    • About those slippers, does it really make sense that the Wizard would give such a valuable item to Zelena on the off-chance that she could obtain something of equal or greater value from Rumple? He could have just traded them himself.

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    • One things for sure if Zelena succeeds in creating an alternet world, next season will be. Awesome! Can you imagine if Regina and Henry we're never born what kind of life the Charming's would have had? Or if Killian hadn't became a pirate? It's almost to wild to think about but we all know Snow, Charming, Em, Killian, Regina, Henry, Belle & Rumple will always find each other somehow because there family.

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    • In season two, do you remember that Regina talked to Dr Whale, Rumpel and Mad BHAtter about certain annoying firl with ruby sillper? So how come Regina does not know Zelena? or maybe she was talking about Dorothy? If that's the case, how did Dorothy come into posession of the slipper?

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    • I liked this episode immensely. I also think at the end of the season, Zelena will once again, say she wants what Regina has. Regina will either tell her she already has it or gives it (not her entire life, but the bad things/ or something cursed) to her.

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    • Teehee.heehee.9 wrote:
      In season two, do you remember that Regina talked to Dr Whale, Rumpel and Mad BHAtter about certain annoying firl with ruby sillper? So how come Regina does not know Zelena? or maybe she was talking about Dorothy? If that's the case, how did Dorothy come into posession of the slipper?

      The conversation was only between Jefferson and Rumple, Regina only happened to be in the same room and she didn't say anything. Whale was not involved at all.

      Jefferson told Rumple he couldn't get the slippers (it's not stated if they were ruby or silver) because they have already been moved to LWM. No mention at all of who was the owner.

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    • By the time jefferson got to Oz, The Wizard and Zelena were gone. I wonder how he got the crystal ball, and what Rumple intended to use with it.

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    • Wonderful episode!!! Definitely one of the best so far :)

      I think Zelena turned green of jealousy because she still couldn't really control the magic that was inside her. She didn't learn it the way Regina did, she was born with it and that's why she has no full control over it and having such strong emotion turned her, well..green.

      Good thing we got a first glimpse at Oz (is it just me or was the CGI better?) and of course the Wizard! 

      OutlawQueen is really one of the cutest things that has ever happened on this show, and I loved Tink finally seeing Robin Hood and realizing that Regina finally met her soulmate :)

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    • Zelena pointed out how Regina is totally ungrateful about the things she does have. Though there were many things Regina had, that she would have changed or used, she learned to make the best of it. (Queendom, Family, friends, Robin Hood) I find Rumple's attitude towards Zelena, almost similar to the sultan's attitude towards Jafar. No matter what Jafar and Zelena did, they would always have issues. Ironically, Zelena just has insatiable jealousy as her sister has insatiable hatred and love. 

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    • Dan Fox wrote:
      By the time jefferson got to Oz, The Wizard and Zelena were gone. I wonder how he got the crystal ball, and what Rumple intended to use with it.

      Jefferson just the slippers was gone, not the owner of the slippers or Zelena. he could have made a deal with her and lied to Rumple about it.

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    • And the crystal ball might have been payment for letting Zelena go. He has gotten himself into a lot of deals. No wonder, he was stuck in Wonderland, daughterless. 

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    • Child of the Moon7 wrote:
      Wonderful episode!!! Definitely one of the best so far :)

      I think Zelena turned green of jealousy because she still couldn't really control the magic that was inside her. She didn't learn it the way Regina did, she was born with it and that's why she has no full control over it and having such strong emotion turned her, well..green.


      Or if you think about it another way, we've seen how powerful magic can physically affect the wielder. Case in point, Rumplestiltskin. He wasn't always "imp-like".  

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    • Fragile Daydreamer wrote:
      Child of the Moon7 wrote:
      Wonderful episode!!! Definitely one of the best so far :)

      I think Zelena turned green of jealousy because she still couldn't really control the magic that was inside her. She didn't learn it the way Regina did, she was born with it and that's why she has no full control over it and having such strong emotion turned her, well..green.


      Or if you think about it another way, we've seen how powerful magic can physically affect the wielder. Case in point, Rumplestiltskin. He wasn't always "imp-like".  

      But that is the DO's curse. A totally different scenario. 

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    • Michael9797 wrote:
      Fragile Daydreamer wrote:
      Child of the Moon7 wrote:
      Wonderful episode!!! Definitely one of the best so far :)

      I think Zelena turned green of jealousy because she still couldn't really control the magic that was inside her. She didn't learn it the way Regina did, she was born with it and that's why she has no full control over it and having such strong emotion turned her, well..green.


      Or if you think about it another way, we've seen how powerful magic can physically affect the wielder. Case in point, Rumplestiltskin. He wasn't always "imp-like".  

      But that is the DO's curse. A totally different scenario. 

      Maybe she is in fact Rumple's daughter and that's why her skin turned green. That wouldn't happen to Neal since he was born before Rumple was the Dark One, but Zelena is Rumple's daughter she would have been born when he had his powers and thus inherited some of his magical traits

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    • Michael9797 wrote:
      Fragile Daydreamer wrote:
      Child of the Moon7 wrote:
      Wonderful episode!!! Definitely one of the best so far :)

      I think Zelena turned green of jealousy because she still couldn't really control the magic that was inside her. She didn't learn it the way Regina did, she was born with it and that's why she has no full control over it and having such strong emotion turned her, well..green.


      Or if you think about it another way, we've seen how powerful magic can physically affect the wielder. Case in point, Rumplestiltskin. He wasn't always "imp-like".  

      But that is the DO's curse. A totally different scenario. 

      true. but what I'm saying is, it's not impossible for the apperance of a person to change due to powerful magic.

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    • Michael9797 wrote:
      Fragile Daydreamer wrote:
      Child of the Moon7 wrote:
      Wonderful episode!!! Definitely one of the best so far :)

      I think Zelena turned green of jealousy because she still couldn't really control the magic that was inside her. She didn't learn it the way Regina did, she was born with it and that's why she has no full control over it and having such strong emotion turned her, well..green.


      Or if you think about it another way, we've seen how powerful magic can physically affect the wielder. Case in point, Rumplestiltskin. He wasn't always "imp-like".  

      But that is the DO's curse. A totally different scenario. 


      except the previous Dark One wasn't an imp or green...

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    • I like to think each Dark One's curse was unique. Maybe Zoso was once a handsome young man XD

      It's my personal theory that the centuries of magic and research may have helped shape Rumple.

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    • Yeah, over time his skin started to change colors and got more scaly. His personality changed too. It wasn't until Bae was gone, that he was full-on crazy. That's when his voice got really high-pitched, and also he would be more ruthless too.

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    • I think Zoso was just using a spell to hide his scaly gray skin.

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    • ^^I find this logical as well XD

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    • I mean, he clearly did not want Rumple to notice he was the Dark One.

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    • He could've disguised himself, and/or wasn't as far along with the Darffk one's curse, because otherwise his voice would alternate pitches frequently.

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    • Dan Fox wrote: He could've disguised himself, and/or wasn't as far along with the Darffk one's curse, because otherwise his voice would alternate pitches frequently.

      We don't know if the voice thing is not something unique to Rumple.

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