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  • I think Zelena's planning 1 of 2 possible things. She ether wants to cast a spell to make SB the new Oz like Pan wanted a new Neverland or she wants to cast a super spell to alter the fabric of reality to travel back in time to change where Cora had kept her and had the good life she thinks Regina had. Just a thought.

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    • I don't think she really wants to make a new oz. The only thing we know now it that she wants to get ger revenge on regina ( though she didn't do anything in storybrook to regina so far....) other things, well she wants something with snow and rumple and i don't know anymore

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    • Rwo

      What if she wanted a son? Assuming she's jealous about Regina and the life she had, do you remember what was the thing she loves most and worthed everything she did? Henry, her son. Then, she said to Rumple that she wants the thing he was looking for during years. I don't know anything else than Neal, his son. And damn why is she so interested in Mary Margaret? 'Cause she's gonna have a baby.

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    • What if she has a child in the land without magic that she's looking for?

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    • I KNEW IT! OF CORSE ZELENA WANTS TO ALTER REALITY! That explains Hook & Em's new attire in the SF. I knew it!

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    • Something doesn't add up.

      Dorothy's (or Zelena's) slippers (not ruby!), Lion's (or David's) courage, Scarecrow's (Regina's) heart, all that's left is Tin man's brain (though I think that Zelena has already acquired by capturing Rumplestiltskin - his wisdom may account for it)... But how does courage, heart, and a brain, all fit in to a time-reversal?

      Plus, the Ancient Laws of Magic clearly states that - 

      1. No magical resurrections (You can't bring back the dead)

      2. No magical love inductions (You can't make someone fall in love)

      3. No magical time reversals (You can't change the past)

      We know Jafar successfully executed two of these laws only by altering the laws of magic. So Zelena's gonna alter them, too? And then... reverse... time?

      By the way, jealousy really seems like a bleak excuse for not living her life. She has the powers, she can create a living standard all for herself, by herself. And she should be vengeful on her adopted father, not her sister who doesn't know jack about her.

      Thoughts?

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    • No!She got the Courage(David=Lion),Trying to get Regina's heart(Regina=Tinman) and finally the Scarecrow/Belle.Belle is obveioulsley gonna do somthing with them that will make her change time and EVERYTHING will cahnge.

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    • It's true that Zelena could have created a really comfortable life for herself, probably even ruled Oz but I think she wanted to be loved and accepted more than anything else. Same with Regina, even though she was Queen and lived a life of luxury, it wasn't enough.

      But its interesting how Regina seems to be getting a bit of payback for blaming Snow all those years ago. Now, it is she who is getting blamed for something she had no control over.

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    • Judging by the SF pics she's succeeds in doing something. Em is walking around in FTL clothes (really shabby ones) Killian has both his hands, wears colorful attire and is driving a carriage. Marrian is alive. I'm betting Regina was never born, Cora never died, Marrian never died so her and Robin are together, and who knows about Em, Killian and the Charming's but I'd also guess that Henry was never born as well.

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    • SmallvilleFanatic wrote:
      No!She got the Courage(David=Lion),Trying to get Regina's heart(Regina=Tinman) and finally the Scarecrow/Belle.Belle is obveioulsley gonna do somthing with them that will make her change time and EVERYTHING will cahnge.

      Zelena already said that she had Rumple's brains in the previous episode. But she could have just meant that Rumple was her unwilling strategist and advisor in her schemes.

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    • Well, I think we'll have to wait a couple of weeks (at least) before we see the next attempt on Regina's Heart.  It looks like Zelena wants to get all up in Hook's business next week. ("You're out of your depth, Pirate!").

      And though Zelena has current control of Rumple, I am not convinced that he is the 'Brain' part of the equation.  There were a couple of comments made before season 3B started that mentioned how Belle was going to step up and be a hero using her brain.  And that she was also going to get some time with Rumple.

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    • It would seem, that Zelena does want to alter reality. She wants everything that everyone else has. The question is, who is her primary target.... Regina or someone else?

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      It would seem, that Zelena does want to alter reality. She wants everything that everyone else has. The question is, who is her primary target.... Regina or someone else?

      Well, I'm not sure about everyone else's theories about time travel and all that jazz, but I think you're on the right track (as usual :P). I think her next curse is meant to "alter reality" in the same sense that Regina's curse did, and give her what she wants. I don't know about people coming back from the dead to fulfill that goal, but...hmm. 

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    • Arctucrus wrote:Well, I'm not sure about everyone else's theories about time travel and all that jazz, but I think you're on the right track (as usual :P). I think her next curse is meant to "alter reality" in the same sense that Regina's curse did, and give her what she wants. I don't know about people coming back from the dead to fulfill that goal, but...hmm. 


      ChocolatEyes613 wrote: Thanks for the compliment, my friend. :)

      If it does turn out to be some form of time-travel, it will ironically cause the proper events to happen.... kinda like how time-travel was, in the Harry Potter series. 

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Arctucrus wrote:
      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      It would seem, that Zelena does want to alter reality. She wants everything that everyone else has. The question is, who is her primary target.... Regina or someone else?
      Well, I'm not sure about everyone else's theories about time travel and all that jazz, but I think you're on the right track (as usual :P). I think her next curse is meant to "alter reality" in the same sense that Regina's curse did, and give her what she wants. I don't know about people coming back from the dead to fulfill that goal, but...hmm. 
      Thanks for the compliment, my friend. :) If it does turn out to be some form of time-travel, it will ironically cause the proper events to happen.... kinda like how time-travel was, in the Harry Potter series.

      My pleasure :)

      Hmm? Elaborate please.

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    • SmallvilleFanatic wrote:
      No!She got the Courage(David=Lion),Trying to get Regina's heart(Regina=Tinman) and finally the Scarecrow/Belle.Belle is obveioulsley gonna do somthing with them that will make her change time and EVERYTHING will cahnge.

      Did you mean that Rumple is the Scarecrow?  When Neal died, Zelena appeared on the scene and told Rump that now she had his beautiful brain.

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    • @Arcutucrus:

      Like when Harry and Hermione went back in time, to save Sirius Black. Harry was in two places at once, when he cast the Patronus.... he saved his past self.

      If the time-travel theory is true for the season finale, then Emma and Hook would be the ones "fixing" the timeline. They are the only main characters who do not run the risk, of meeting their past selves. As Emma was not yet born, and Hook was still in Neverland. By going back, they would be ensuring that the past events happen correctly.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      @Arcutucrus:

      Like when Harry and Hermione went back in time, to save Sirius Black. Harry was in two places at once, when he cast the Patronus.... he saved his past self.

      If the time-travel theory is true for the season finale, then Emma and Hook would be the ones "fixing" the timeline. They are the only main characters who do not run the risk, of meeting their past selves. As Emma was not yet born, and Hook was still in Neverland. By going back, they would be ensuring that the past events happen correctly.


      Ironic that Captain Hook went from revenge crazed scerage of the seas to babysitter to Em's plucky sidekick. Haha

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    • DZAV21 wrote:

      Ironic that Captain Hook went from revenge crazed scerage of the seas to babysitter to Em's plucky sidekick. Haha

      Not really.... it was hinted pretty early during Season 2, that Hook likes children.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      DZAV21 wrote:

      Ironic that Captain Hook went from revenge crazed scerage of the seas to babysitter to Em's plucky sidekick. Haha

      Not really.... it was hinted pretty early during Season 2, that Hook likes children.


      Haha I know, I think it's sweet but I just find it funny given the classic tales of Captain Hook.

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    • She said she wanted to change the past, but this is aganist the laws of magic, so she'll have to change the laws of magic to do this. Do you think she'll be making a trip to Wonderland in search of a certain genie?

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    • Anubis16 wrote:
      She said she wanted to change the past, but this is aganist the laws of magic, so she'll have to change the laws of magic to do this. Do you think she'll be making a trip to Wonderland in search of a certain genie?

      Actually no. She is making her own way to change the past and that's why she needs courage, brain, heart and probably Snow's baby as well.


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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      @Arcutucrus:

      Like when Harry and Hermione went back in time, to save Sirius Black. Harry was in two places at once, when he cast the Patronus.... he saved his past self.

      If the time-travel theory is true for the season finale, then Emma and Hook would be the ones "fixing" the timeline. They are the only main characters who do not run the risk, of meeting their past selves. As Emma was not yet born, and Hook was still in Neverland. By going back, they would be ensuring that the past events happen correctly.

      What if they have to time trave to the future so Aurora & Snow White's child can fix the timelime?

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    • If Zelena really got her way and Regina was never born, would there be any real reason for the other EF characters to want to "fix" the timeline (assuming somehow they could recover their memories of the original timeline)?

      Regina is really not all that popular after all even though she has tried to redeem herself.

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    • Toma Cre wrote:
      If Zelena really got her way and Regina was never born, would there be any real reason for the other EF characters to want to "fix" the timeline (assuming somehow they could recover their memories of the original timeline)?

      Regina is really not all that popular after all even though she has tried to redeem herself.


      Because then Snow & Charming wouldn't have met and Em & Henry wouldn't have been born.

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    • DZAV21 wrote:

      Because then Snow & Charming wouldn't have met and Em & Henry wouldn't have been born.

      Exactly.... change one event, and there are endless consequences.

      It would be like Supernatural episode 6x17, My Heart Will Go On. That episode featured an alternate timeline, due to a rogue angel preventing the Titanic from sinking. The new Star Trek films, are also good examples.

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    • Regina is still having trust issues, and let's face it, it takes more that a year to overcome the lifetime of evil she inflicted on everyone. She does have a few allies now (ones that she probably finds unusual in Emma and the Charmings, not to mention Gold, Belle, and Hook, and of course, we shouldn't forget Robin Hood.  And I think a case might could be made for Ariel and Tink as well).

      However, the real problem is that, if the time changed to a time with no Regina, no one would know to change the timeline. All they would know is that the Wicked Queen needed to be overthrown. About the only person that might have a chance of figuring out what is going on is Rumple, primarily because of his ability to see the future, and probably see's may alternate futures.  It would likely be up to Rumple to overcome the new curse.

      However, All of this is based on a time-travel fix. and of all the tools in a writers arsonal, I find that using time travel as a plot device is generally very weak writing, and I hope that the OUaT writers don't go that way.

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    • Do you think the wedding is going to occur in Zelena's alternet reality or before she sends them all back in time in the finale?

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    • Hmcooper4 wrote:

      However, All of this is based on a time-travel fix. and of all the tools in a writers arsonal, I find that using time travel as a plot device is generally very weak writing, and I hope that the OUaT writers don't go that way.


      Oh I absolutely agree with that. Someone mentioned Supernatural and I think the whole time travel thing they introduced in Season 4 and onwards totally shattered the coherency of the plot lines.

      The hard part about getting time travel correct is how to resolve all those paradoxes in a logical manner, and many a time the writers seemn to just ignore that completely.

      Like even in this current scenario - Regina's heart is the one of the key ingredients for Zelena's spell to change the past such that Regina never existed. But no Regina equals no Regina's heart. So the spell couldn't have been cast in the first place...

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    • DZAV21 wrote:
      Because then Snow & Charming wouldn't have met and Em & Henry wouldn't have been born.

      Snow and Charming are soul mates so they may have been destined to find each other one way or another. Plus, we have seen how Rumple was manipulating events in Season 1 to get them together so he would probably accomplish it even if Regina wasn't there to drive Snow out of the castle.

      Emma and Neal would be a more complex case since they would presumably be in separate worlds. But then Zelena, or whoever Rumple found to replace Regina, might have still cast the curse in the alternate timeline.

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    • Toma Cre wrote:

      Hmcooper4 wrote:

      However, All of this is based on a time-travel fix. and of all the tools in a writers arsonal, I find that using time travel as a plot device is generally very weak writing, and I hope that the OUaT writers don't go that way.


      Oh I absolutely agree with that. Someone mentioned Supernatural and I think the whole time travel thing they introduced in Season 4 and onwards totally shattered the coherency of the plot lines.

      The hard part about getting time travel correct is how to resolve all those paradoxes in a logical manner, and many a time the writers seemn to just ignore that completely.

      Like even in this current scenario - Regina's heart is the one of the key ingredients for Zelena's spell to change the past such that Regina never existed. But no Regina equals no Regina's heart. So the spell couldn't have been cast in the first place...

      ...which means we will all be smacking our heads, if that does happen.

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    • Zelena is NOT going to be the Villian of the Fourth Season.A person asked the creators if there's going to be another villian for Season Four and they said yes.

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    • SmallvilleFanatic wrote: Zelena is NOT going to be the Villian of the Fourth Season.A person asked the creators if there's going to be another villian for Season Four and they said yes.

      And Zelena won't appear in the two hour finale

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    • SmallvilleFanatic wrote:
      Zelena is NOT going to be the Villian of the Fourth Season.A person asked the creators if there's going to be another villian for Season Four and they said yes.

      That doesn't mean they can't keep Zelena and have multiple vilains. As far as we know, Zelena can turn into some kind of anti-hero the way Regina and Rumple did, or she can become a sidekick to a more powerful villain.

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    • Prince of Rascia wrote:

      That doesn't mean they can't keep Zelena and have multiple vilains. As far as we know, Zelena can turn into some kind of anti-hero the way Regina and Rumple did, or she can become a sidekick to a more powerful villain.

      Unlikely.... as they also said, that the Wicked Witch would be a Season 3-exclusive character. Zelena is too immature to reform, in the next few episodes.

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    • Well, in the last "Lighting Round" they implied they might not kill Zelena off so everything is possible. She is very interesting and charismatic character so I really hope they'll keep her a bit longer on the show.

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    • Prince of Rascia wrote: Well, in the last "Lighting Round" they implied they might not kill Zelena off so everything is possible. She is very interesting and charismatic character so I really hope they'll keep her a bit longer on the show.

      Well she's not in the press release for Snow Drifts

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    • Um I guess you didn't pay attention cause she will appear in Snow Drifts.

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    • Prince of Rascia wrote: Um I guess you didn't pay attention cause she will appear in Snow Drifts.

      Sorry last time I checked she wasn't listed under Snow Drifts

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    • Toma Cre wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:
      Because then Snow & Charming wouldn't have met and Em & Henry wouldn't have been born.

      Snow and Charming are soul mates so they may have been destined to find each other one way or another. Plus, we have seen how Rumple was manipulating events in Season 1 to get them together so he would probably accomplish it even if Regina wasn't there to drive Snow out of the castle.

      Emma and Neal would be a more complex case since they would presumably be in separate worlds. But then Zelena, or whoever Rumple found to replace Regina, might have still cast the curse in the alternate timeline.

      But the events causing Neal to travel to different realms happened before Zelena was even born, so Neal and Emma would still probably meet as they originally did.  Also, if Zelena's plan is to change things so Rumple chooses her to casts his curse, then Rumple and Bae still must have been separated, as finding Bae was the entire point of the curse.

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    • Stonicus wrote:

      Toma Cre wrote:

      DZAV21 wrote:
      Because then Snow & Charming wouldn't have met and Em & Henry wouldn't have been born.

      Snow and Charming are soul mates so they may have been destined to find each other one way or another. Plus, we have seen how Rumple was manipulating events in Season 1 to get them together so he would probably accomplish it even if Regina wasn't there to drive Snow out of the castle.

      Emma and Neal would be a more complex case since they would presumably be in separate worlds. But then Zelena, or whoever Rumple found to replace Regina, might have still cast the curse in the alternate timeline.

      But the events causing Neal to travel to different realms happened before Zelena was even born, so Neal and Emma would still probably meet as they originally did.  Also, if Zelena's plan is to change things so Rumple chooses her to casts his curse, then Rumple and Bae still must have been separated, as finding Bae was the entire point of the curse.

      Emma wouldn't be a thief.

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    • WinterWoodsGal wrote:Emma wouldn't be a thief.

      Sure she would... she'd still meet Neal, as Neal began realm jumping before Zelena was even born. 

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    • Stonicus wrote:
      WinterWoodsGal wrote:Emma wouldn't be a thief.
      Sure she would... she'd still meet Neal, as Neal began realm jumping before Zelena was even born. 

      No.... Emma would be a thief, because Snow White would still be one.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:

      Stonicus wrote:
      WinterWoodsGal wrote:Emma wouldn't be a thief.
      Sure she would... she'd still meet Neal, as Neal began realm jumping before Zelena was even born. 

      No.... Emma would be a thief, because Snow White would still be one.

      But if Emma was born,

      That means Charming met Snow,

      So Snow wouldn't be a thief,

      Which means Emma would have no reason to be a thief

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    • WinterWoodsGal wrote:

      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:

      Stonicus wrote:
      WinterWoodsGal wrote:Emma wouldn't be a thief.
      Sure she would... she'd still meet Neal, as Neal began realm jumping before Zelena was even born. 
      No.... Emma would be a thief, because Snow White would still be one.

      But if Emma was born,

      That means Charming met Snow,

      So Snow wouldn't be a thief,

      Which means Emma would have no reason to be a thief


      Snow was a thief before she met Charming... it's HOW she met Charming, she was robbing him.  And what Emma becomes has nothing to do with Snow.  Emma becomes a thief because she is a poor homeless orphan. 

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    • Stonicus wrote:

      WinterWoodsGal wrote:

      ChocolatEyes613 wrote:

      Stonicus wrote:
      WinterWoodsGal wrote:Emma wouldn't be a thief.
      Sure she would... she'd still meet Neal, as Neal began realm jumping before Zelena was even born. 
      No.... Emma would be a thief, because Snow White would still be one.

      But if Emma was born,

      That means Charming met Snow,

      So Snow wouldn't be a thief,

      Which means Emma would have no reason to be a thief


      Snow was a thief before she met Charming... it's HOW she met Charming, she was robbing him.  And what Emma becomes has nothing to do with Snow.  Emma becomes a thief because she is a poor homeless orphan. 

      No I'm saying if Regina was never born...

      Uh, show writers, what are you doing to us Oncers

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    • WinterWoodsGal wrote:

      No I'm saying if Regina was never born...

      Then Snow White would never have met Prince Charming, and Emma would never have been born.... which means, the Dark Curse could never be broken.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:
      Then Snow White would never have met Prince Charming, and Emma would never have been born.... which means, the Dark Curse could never be broken.

      And no Dark Curse too ^^ Only a daughter of Cora could cast the Dark Curse according to Rumple. If Regina is not born, only Zelena could cast this Curse... And, if she comes back in time, she'll probably keep her memories so... Why she would help Rumple? :)

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    • If Regina was never born, then would have Zelena been Leopold's wife and Snow's stepmother somehow? I find it impossible to change one's desire for royalty, which was what brought Regina into the world via Cora. I really wonder how Zelena will alter the past.

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    • DZAV21 wrote:
      Toma Cre wrote:
      If Zelena really got her way and Regina was never born, would there be any real reason for the other EF characters to want to "fix" the timeline (assuming somehow they could recover their memories of the original timeline)?

      Regina is really not all that popular after all even though she has tried to redeem herself.


      Because then Snow & Charming wouldn't have met and Em & Henry wouldn't have been born.

      Rumple would have made sure that Emma was born. She was made to break the curse, so I don't think Zelena could have stopped her from being there to do it.

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    • Ruby ridinghood wrote:
      DZAV21 wrote:
      Toma Cre wrote:
      If Zelena really got her way and Regina was never born, would there be any real reason for the other EF characters to want to "fix" the timeline (assuming somehow they could recover their memories of the original timeline)?

      Regina is really not all that popular after all even though she has tried to redeem herself.


      Because then Snow & Charming wouldn't have met and Em & Henry wouldn't have been born.

      Rumple would have made sure that Emma was born. She was made to break the curse, so I don't think Zelena could have stopped her from being there to do it.

      Emma is just the product of true love... Snow and Charming aren't the only true loves out there... there's plenty of other true love babies Rumple could have used...

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    • If we go with the predestination theory, attempt to change the present by going to the past is what actually made the present the way it is. So maybe Zelena already went to the past and changed it but her change resulted in the present we have right now (for example her current version went to the past and died there so it left Regina as the only one who can cast the Curse. If she goes to the past again she will die again so Regina would still be the only one who can cast the Curse). I hope you got what I was talking about :D

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    • Stonicus wrote:
      Ruby ridinghood wrote:
      DZAV21 wrote:
      Toma Cre wrote:
      If Zelena really got her way and Regina was never born, would there be any real reason for the other EF characters to want to "fix" the timeline (assuming somehow they could recover their memories of the original timeline)?

      Regina is really not all that popular after all even though she has tried to redeem herself.


      Because then Snow & Charming wouldn't have met and Em & Henry wouldn't have been born.
      Rumple would have made sure that Emma was born. She was made to break the curse, so I don't think Zelena could have stopped her from being there to do it.
      Emma is just the product of true love... Snow and Charming aren't the only true loves out there... there's plenty of other true love babies Rumple could have used...

      But he used Snow's the KINGS dauther's baby so that probably means something doesn't it?

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    • Stonicus wrote:
      Ruby ridinghood wrote:
      DZAV21 wrote:
      Toma Cre wrote:
      If Zelena really got her way and Regina was never born, would there be any real reason for the other EF characters to want to "fix" the timeline (assuming somehow they could recover their memories of the original timeline)?

      Regina is really not all that popular after all even though she has tried to redeem herself.


      Because then Snow & Charming wouldn't have met and Em & Henry wouldn't have been born.
      Rumple would have made sure that Emma was born. She was made to break the curse, so I don't think Zelena could have stopped her from being there to do it.
      Emma is just the product of true love... Snow and Charming aren't the only true loves out there... there's plenty of other true love babies Rumple could have used...

      When Emma brought up being the product of the true Rumple told her she was the product of magic.

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    • ChocolatEyes613 wrote:

      WinterWoodsGal wrote:

      No I'm saying if Regina was never born...

      Then Snow White would never have met Prince Charming, and Emma would never have been born.... which means, the Dark Curse could never be broken.

      Yeah but ^ people have been saying since Snow and Charming a true lovers they would have met one way or another

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    • Yeah they would of met Charming would have cancled the wedding like before and they would of had Emma she would look the same as she dose in 28 years and they would All live happily Ever After in the Enchanted Forest...Or so they Thought.

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    • SmallvilleFanatic wrote: Yeah they would of met Charming would have cancled the wedding like before and they would of had Emma she would look the same as she dose in 28 years and they would All live happily Ever After in the Enchanted Forest...Or so they Thought.

      And there would be no Henry!

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    • WinterWoodsGal wrote:

      And there would be no Henry!


      I'm definitely cheering for Wicked Witch then.

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    • Prince of Rascia wrote:

      WinterWoodsGal wrote:

      And there would be no Henry!

      I'm definitely cheering for Wicked Witch then.

      Wow you must love Henry.

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    • Prince of Rascia wrote:
      If we go with the predestination theory, attempt to change the present by going to the past is what actually made the present the way it is. So maybe Zelena already went to the past and changed it but her change resulted in the present we have right now (for example her current version went to the past and died there so it left Regina as the only one who can cast the Curse. If she goes to the past again she will die again so Regina would still be the only one who can cast the Curse). I hope you got what I was talking about :D


      That's how like every single episode of Quantum Leap worked... hehehehe...

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    • Stonicus wrote:


      That's how like every single episode of Quantum Leap worked... hehehehe...

      Time travel is one of my favorite themes in Sci Fi shows, movies and books, especially if smartly done. Though it can really be confusing - future is the past, past is the future...

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    • Anubis16 wrote:
      She said she wanted to change the past, but this is aganist the laws of magic, so she'll have to change the laws of magic to do this. Do you think she'll be making a trip to Wonderland in search of a certain genie?


      I was wondering about this too. And question: Jafar already changed the laws of magic . . . but does that only apply to Wonderland? I know they're 2 separate shows, and Storybrook and Wonderland are 2 different realms, but they're still connected. So will the laws of magic have to be changed in Storybrook as well?


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    • Dearie1991 wrote:
      Anubis16 wrote:
      She said she wanted to change the past, but this is aganist the laws of magic, so she'll have to change the laws of magic to do this. Do you think she'll be making a trip to Wonderland in search of a certain genie?

      I was wondering about this too. And question: Jafar already changed the laws of magic . . . but does that only apply to Wonderland? I know they're 2 separate shows, and Storybrook and Wonderland are 2 different realms, but they're still connected. So will the laws of magic have to be changed in Storybrook as well?


      I don't think it matters where you are. I think Jafar could performed the ceremony anywhere and still could break the laws no matter where he went. 

      SPOILER ALERT

      Since the nyx cursed Jafar  do you think he can be used to change the laws of magic like Cyrus and brothers could? It would be nice to see Zelena searching for Jafar's bottle so she can break the laws of magic and change the past.

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    • Anubis16 wrote:
      Dearie1991 wrote:
      Anubis16 wrote:
      She said she wanted to change the past, but this is aganist the laws of magic, so she'll have to change the laws of magic to do this. Do you think she'll be making a trip to Wonderland in search of a certain genie?

      I was wondering about this too. And question: Jafar already changed the laws of magic . . . but does that only apply to Wonderland? I know they're 2 separate shows, and Storybrook and Wonderland are 2 different realms, but they're still connected. So will the laws of magic have to be changed in Storybrook as well?


      I don't think it matters where you are. I think Jafar could performed the ceremony anywhere and still could break the laws no matter where he went. 

      SPOILER ALERT

      Since the nyx cursed Jafar  do you think he can be used to change the laws of magic like Cyrus and brothers could? It would be nice to see Zelena searching for Jafar's bottle so she can break the laws of magic and change the past.


      Hmm. That's an interesting thought. I don't know though. I would love to see the shows be mixed. Not really as in the Wonderland characters be in Storybrook, but more-so as in seeing more of Wonderland while realm traveling. And this may be obvious, I don't know. But Jafar is the 1 who broke the laws of magic, and the only 1 powerful enough to do that . . . so is he the only person powerful enough to do something with the 3 broken laws? Or are the laws of magic now broken for anyone to use? I hope that question makes sense, lol.


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    • (Ok, sorry for bad English...) My theory is:

      Zelena creates the new curse, like the first (season 1), but in the opposite: they are in the Enchanted Forest, and they have "flashbacks" about their lifes in our world, except the Henry thing. Unfortunate implications:

      -Zelena is the boss. All live in a post-apocalyptic EF. Maybe Rumple is his lover/guardian dog/ally/someone who doesn't give a fuck/whatever

      -Since Regina doesn't exit, there's no "savior" stuff. 

      -No Outlaw Queen. 

      -No Henry, because Emma meets Bae in our world.

      -Emma is raised as princess, not as a warrior (unless she lives in the exile, like Snow White). If she's a real lady, no Captain Hook (a pirate + a princess? Impossible)

      -The Charmings never meet.

      -No Pinocchio. He's a child or he's in our world.

      -No Rumple/Gold. Rumple is still the Dark One because he never finds Bae.

      -Half of the Gold deals never exist (including maybe something with Cinderella's baby)

      -Possibly no Rumbelle, unless the Ogre Wars from 1x12 are not made by the curse.

      -Graham is still here, because he doesn't died (I actually like this)

      Thoughts?

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    • SlayerNina wrote:
      (Ok, sorry for bad English...) My theory is:

      Zelena creates the new curse, like the first (season 1), but in the opposite: they are in the Enchanted Forest, and they have "flashbacks" about their lifes in our world, except the Henry thing. Unfortunate implications:

      -Zelena is the boss. All live in a post-apocalyptic EF. Maybe Rumple is his lover/guardian dog/ally/someone who doesn't give a fuck/whatever

      -Since Regina doesn't exit, there's no "savior" stuff. 

      -No Outlaw Queen. 

      -No Henry, because Emma meets Bae in our world.

      -Emma is raised as princess, not as a warrior (unless she lives in the exile, like Snow White). If she's a real lady, no Captain Hook (a pirate + a princess? Impossible)

      -The Charmings never meet.

      -No Pinocchi o. He's a child or he's in our world. -No Rumple/Gold. Rumple is still the Dark One because he never finds Bae.

      -Half of the Gold deals never exist (including maybe something with Cinderella's baby)

      -Possibly no Rumbelle, unless the Ogre Wars from 1x12 are not made by the curse.

      -Graham is still here, because he doesn't died (I actually like this)

      Thoughts?


      A lot of or theories are plausible but look at the pics, Em is a pesant but is wearing a really big strange ring for some reason, Killian isn't a pirate anymore, and it looks like there going back to the day Snow & Charming met.

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