United Realms: What do do?

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Nick Branson·12/26/2018 in Wiki-Related Discussion

With the United Realms we have a discussion about whether to include all the realms of story that didn't appear in the episode. We also have a discussion about weather to include the Dream World and the Netherworld, and the afterlife realms; Mount Olympus, the Underworld, and "Worse Place".

Along with which realms to include, we are insure whether to say Alice's Daughter was born in the United Realms because time could work differently in Victorian England.

Let's finally settle this once and for all!

Thoughts?

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ShadowDough·12/28/2018

Truest Believer wrote:
Regina clearly said "all the realms of history". That's pretty specific.
I'd say the only exceptions are the Dream World, the Netherworld, Olympus, Underworld and their factions, as those are the realms of the dead and some like the Netherworld, are outside of space & time.
About Alice's Daughter, she's a VE character. I think it can be noted in Trivia or with a reference wether she was born in VE or the UR.

I think you mean "all the realms of story".

The thing is the fact that if Dream World, Underworld or Mount Olympus present in the United Realms is purely speculation. We can't debate which is "exception" by ourselves.

She said "all the realms", yes. But the word "all" may have been used to explain things more clearly. If Regina said, "I love ALL the people", would we count it as a mention for all characters?

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Edward Zachary Sunrose·1/4/2019

I think it should include all of the realms of story, but not include the Dream World, Netherworld, and the Afterlife Worlds. These aren't physical places. Yes, you can travel to them with magic, and yes stories can take place there, but they fundamentally shouldn't be physical locations. I do recall that Mount Olympus the mountain was in the United Realms, but I doubt if you walked up to the top you would be able to interact with the souls there. Maybe you'd see the empty temple Hook was in, and maybe you'd even encounter Zeus, but it's still the Afterlife and I don't think you'd be able to go there.

To say nothing of the Worse Place, which we never even saw. There definitely seems to be no escape from that.

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ShadowDough·1/4/2019

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
I think it should include all of the realms of story, but not include the Dream World, Netherworld, and the Afterlife Worlds. These aren't physical places. Yes, you can travel to them with magic, and yes stories can take place there, but they fundamentally shouldn't be physical locations. I do recall that Mount Olympus the mountain was in the United Realms, but I doubt if you walked up to the top you would be able to interact with the souls there. Maybe you'd see the empty temple Hook was in, and maybe you'd even encounter Zeus, but it's still the Afterlife and I don't think you'd be able to go there.
To say nothing of the Worse Place, which we never even saw. There definitely seems to be no escape from that.

I like your theory. But as I said before, we're not here to discuss our theories. You're saying we shouldn't include Afterlifes, NW and DW. Seems reasonable enough. But only "seems". We cannot debate what world to include by ourselves. We didn't see Netherworld, but who knows? Maybe it is already there and we just didn't happen to see it.

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Lady Junky·1/4/2019

I don't get the issue. If it is not confirmed, then we don't add it. We never added suppositions on the wiki, no reason to start now.

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Matthewdoyle93·1/4/2019

I agree with Lady. If a realm wasn't canonized to exist in the United Realms (like OG Wonderland), just don't add it. I'm pretty sure Adam Horowitz isn't going to answer any OUAT/OUAT in Wonderland questions on Twitter anytime soon and if he was going to provide a list of what makes up the United Realms, he probably would have released it already.

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Walecs·1/4/2019

Nick Branson wrote:
My personal opinion is to only include the realms we have proof they are there. Like what about the Dark Realm, is that there? Its easier just to show the ones there.

Agreed

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Nightlily·8/28/2020

Nick Branson wrote: My personal opinion is to only include the realms we have proof they are there. Like what about the Dark Realm, is that there? Its easier just to show the ones there.

Exactly

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Applegirl·8/28/2020

Regina saying "all the realms" is both specific and very vague, depending on how a person perceives her wording. She could mean literally ALL the realms in existence, even ones that were never seen on the show and only mentioned, but it's also speculative since it's also not known if that's what she truly meant. I think it's better to include the realms that were seen on-screen after she united the realms.

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Matheus1234zx·8/28/2020

Matheus1234zx wrote:
We can't just suppose that time works differently. About the realms that didn't appear in the episode, I say that we shouldn't include them, unless A&E confirms that they are there, like they did with Wonderland

Still stand by that

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Nick Branson·8/28/2020

Consensus reached: Only add confirmed realms to United Realms page

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