Suggestion About The Frozen and Brave Characters

Edward Zachary Sunrose·11/7/2015 in Wiki-Related Discussion

Both movies have been said by Eddie and Adam to be canon to the show's universe. That's not the point of discussion for this thread, it's a confirmed fact.

My suggestion is that similar to the "For events occuring before/after _________, see _______." statements we have on our main characters' pages, we have a statement like "For events occuring before <insert debut episode here>, see Frozen." for the Frozen characters and "For events occuring before The Bear King, see Brave." (Since The Bear King will be the earliest point we see the Brave characters in, timeline-wise.)

That way, we wouldn't have to write out copy/paste summaries of the movies in every character's description, and if by some horrible misfortune someone hasn't seen either movie, they can just click the link and read about the character's previous history.

Thoughts? It's just a sentence, so it shouldn't be that much trouble. If it's given the go ahead, I'll even do it myself to save everyone the trouble.

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CoolDudeAl·11/8/2015

Eskaver wrote:

Killian Jones wrote:
Yes, I know what you mean, but that's not what I'm talking about. We know that most of what happened in the movie happened. But we can't be judges of what happened and what didn't. Did the characters sing all the songs? Was Elsa's mother Iduna, or was it Gerda? Did Olaf speak? Did Rapunzel go to Arendelle?

This. With so many facts that say otherwise, the in-show would be taken over the words of the writers.

Now in Brave's case, there's not enough information to tell. It can't be exactly compared to Frozen which changed names and other things. It all depends on what we see, but the basic assumption could either be:

--Assume the events of the movie happened based on Word of Writers, changing the discrepancies to fit what happened in-show, or

--Use only things presented in-show

I would go with the "Less is More" approach so that way there is no error or speculative proof. It's better to have facts, rather than speculation. If there's speculation to be allowed than it's not really helpful (unless it's in trivia)

What I have suggested is a less is more approach. One statement, that's it. No fighting over singing, mother's names, Olaf, easter eggs, etc.

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Fij30jigh110·11/9/2015

Oh, my bad, I was under the impression we were considering adding actual summaries for the events of the movies. I am still not sure about a statement calling back to the movies.

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CuteChimecho·11/9/2015

Killian Jones wrote:
Oh, my bad, I was under the impression we were considering adding actual summaries for the events of the movies. I am still not sure about a statement calling back to the movies.

Nope, that's exactly what CoolDudeAI and I were trying to avoid/fix. :p

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Brzoskwinia·11/9/2015

Can't we just mention something like that?: 'Merida is based on the character of the same name from the Disney/Pixar film, Brave, and we meet her some time after the events of the movie.' After all that's what Adam and Eddy said: http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/21/once-upon-time-merida-season-5-spoilers

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CuteChimecho·11/9/2015

Brzoskwinia wrote:
Can't we just mention something like that?: 'Merida is based on the character of the same name from the Disney/Pixar film, Brave, and we meet her some time after the events of the movie.' After all that's what Adam and Eddy said: http://www.ew.com/article/2015/08/21/once-upon-time-merida-season-5-spoilers

We can't quite say that, because as much as Adam and Eddy wish that the movies worked into the show's canon perfectly, they don't, which is why we need a statement that says something more like they are "adapted from," or "based on."

But that general idea, yes.

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Edward Zachary Sunrose·11/9/2015

How about something like "Before the events shown in <enter character's earliest timeline point here>, events similar to <movie> unfolded."

And then for Brave characters, we start bio's with "Ten years after the previous events," and with Frozen characters, we start bio's with "Two years after the previous events,"... Does that sound good?

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CuteChimecho·11/9/2015

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:
How about something like "Before the events shown in <enter character's earliest timeline point here>, events similar to <movie> unfolded."
And then for Brave characters, we start bio's with "Ten years after the previous events," and with Frozen characters, we start bio's with "Two years after the previous events,"... Does that sound good?

I think I can roll with that.

CoolDude?

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CoolDudeAl·11/9/2015

Arctucrus wrote:

I think I can roll with that.

CoolDude?

Works for me. :)

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Edward Zachary Sunrose·11/9/2015

CoolDudeAl wrote:

Arctucrus wrote:

I think I can roll with that.

CoolDude?

Works for me. :)

Cool. Hopefully the staff agrees and we can put this all to bed.

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OUAT IS EPIC·4/24/2017

Lady Junky wrote: Let's be precised. The events of the films are canon, but not the films. Meaning all events of the film happened, but maybe not exactly like it is depicted in the Disney film. For exemple, Elsa singing Let It Go is not canon in OUAT. :)
Well we don't know that. Anna implied that "Love is An Open Door" is canon within the show.

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What do you think?