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Njcthree wrote: SO here's my question on Lumiere- It was established that "all imagination comes from somewhere" therefore anything thats in movies or stories or anything that we "imagine" has happened already in another realm and is the "source material" for our "imagination"- therefore Lumiere from the 1991 movie and flciker from The Ice King of Oz is based on the Lumiere we saw last night (according to Once Upon a Time mythology) BUT if the wicked witch JUST cursed him into the candle, how could people have "imagined" him years ago. The only thing i can think of is that the wicked witch cursed him into the candle YEARS AGO and that rumple maybe stole the candle from her or got it as part of a deal before he abdonded her in Oz. Therefore those ivents could have been the source for Flicker in Ice King of Oz and Lumiere in the 1991 Beuaty and The Beast Movie.
That's an interesting theory- so your saying that only after zelena brought eveyrone to our land- it made everyone think they've known of lumiere for years?
Yep, unless Lumiere was aready a candle before the original curse.
Other thing, yes, I think too that Lumiere was a candelabra for years. Assuming that Zelena planned her revenge for long as well, it could explain Lumiere's cameo in Skin Deep. Yes, the candelabra itself is different, but come on, IT WAS OBVIOUSLY LUMIERE with the clock guy (can't remember his original name, in France he's known as Big Ben XD)
its an interesting theory but until the creators say it or suggest something like that I don't know if i believe it
Njcthree wrote: its an interesting theory but until the creators say it or suggest something like that I don't know if i believe it
I think they'll just let us decide what we want to believe about it :D
Njcthree wrote: its an interesting theory but until the creators say it or suggest something like that I don't know if i believe it
there's a few questions/things im hoping they'll delve into
1) how time works throughout the realms- does time move slower in other realms- ie- 1 year there is 50 here something like that- (it would explain how the story of snow is 200 years old and yet only a few years passed between snow being awoken by true love and the curse being enacted but it's in the 80's in the LWM.) However- idk if that theory is accurate since a year is missing in both our realm and EF- if we were to stick with that theory that time moves slower in EF and other realms then the year that went by while they were in EF would mean that decades went by here and emma would be an old woman- so time and how it works in other realms. The writers said lands of stories are removed from time so maybe there is no concept of time in other realms? If so then- how did mulan know that they were frozen for 28 years- or did lumiere know that rumples casle was 200 years old- or belle know that her library has been there for 30 years? so im hoping we learn more on how time works in other relams in relation to LWM.
2) I would love see other realms
3) obvously imagination comes form somewhere- but how does this concept work- im curious to know that
Njcthree wrote: its an interesting theory but until the creators say it or suggest something like that I don't know if i believe it
If you watch wonderland- you'll know that at the end we see alice has created her own "alice's adventures in wonderland" (her realms version perhaps) in it she suggests that the red queen and will become the white king and queen- but like lumiere- if our adventures of alice (which was created in the 1800s) talks of a white queen- its safe to assume that anastasia becomes the NEXT WHITE QUEEN ( since she's good now) Maybe Cora's purpose for teaching anastasia magic was to take out the white queen? it;s been written a few times that the red queen and the white were rivals so perhaps anastasia killed the white queen.
when it comes to the mad hatter- i'd assume the first time he was there was when alice went as a child (in hat trick regina tells jeferson that she wants him to take her to a place he's been before) we learn in wonderland the hatter had a cottage in wonderland and everything. He obviously was trapped by Cora later on and remained in wonderland till the curse.
My only question is timeline- when did cora get a new knave (the one we see in Hat Trick and Queen of Hearts) and was the red queen empower when alice first went to wonderland as a child- i would assume so since it's in our books (LWM version) time in wonderland seems to move differently then in alices realm (when she comes back from wonderland both times, many years have passed in her realm) so perhaps a week there in 1 year in alice's realm.
I would love to get a timeline which covers everything- allr ealms we've seen so far!
I liked the way they did Lumiere, I was scared they were gonna have some talking candlestick bouncing around. I'm glad they did the face in the flame thing, that's more suitable for Once Upon A Time.