Hmcooper4 wrote: So, I am guessing that somewhere off screen, before the cyclone actually hit Granny's, they had actually discussed this and determined that it would be best to not disclose their previous EF identities, but to stick with their Storybrooke Personas. Even when Camelot comes to Storybrooke, David only mentions the part where Arthur is a legend in this realm. Not a lie, but not the whole truth, either, since David clearly knows all about Excalibur (as we saw in episode 3x2).
Also, when your Daughter, Mom, Girlfriend, best friend, etc. is the Dark One, the last thing you want is for people to recognize you.
And before you argue that the people in the EF would know Snow and co, remember that most, if not all, of the people that are likely to know Snow and Co are in Storybrooke. Between Regina's curse and Snow's curse, the EF is pretty much cleared of it's original inhabitants.
I do agree that most, if not all, of Snow's allies and Regina's allies are in Storybrooke. Regina's Curse favored her allies and punished her enemies, while Snow's Curse brought everyone she loved to Storybrooke for protection.
But to say that the EF is pretty much cleared of it's inhabitants is exaggerating a bit much. We know Ariel and Eric didn't get pulled away during the Second, and Hook was able to outrun it. So plenty of EF people could've survived either Curse if the First was as... defeatable as the Second.
Hmcooper4 wrote: So, I am guessing that somewhere off screen, before the cyclone actually hit Granny's, they had actually discussed this and determined that it would be best to not disclose their previous EF identities, but to stick with their Storybrooke Personas. Even when Camelot comes to Storybrooke, David only mentions the part where Arthur is a legend in this realm. Not a lie, but not the whole truth, either, since David clearly knows all about Excalibur (as we saw in episode 3x2).
Also, when your Daughter, Mom, Girlfriend, best friend, etc. is the Dark One, the last thing you want is for people to recognize you.
And before you argue that the people in the EF would know Snow and co, remember that most, if not all, of the people that are likely to know Snow and Co are in Storybrooke. Between Regina's curse and Snow's curse, the EF is pretty much cleared of it's original inhabitants.
But to say that the EF is pretty much cleared of it's inhabitants is exaggerating a bit much. We know Ariel and Eric didn't get pulled away during the Second, and Hook was able to outrun it. So plenty of EF people could've survived either Curse if the First was as... defeatable as the Second.
Not many since Eric was on a far off island and Ariel is a mermaid, lol. The EF was apprantly desolate and barren....except a few miles (I guess) north in Camelot, lol.
Also, I never said the EF was uninhabited. I just said that most of the people that are likely to know Snow and/or Regina are residing in Storybrooke as a result of a curse (or 2). Obviously Percival managed to dodge both curses. But then again, Percival managed to survive one of Regina's temper tantrums. But i would think he's the exception, not the rule.
The thing with the Fury is that..... nothing happened
It's not exciting anymore when a monster/creature appears in town because we already know nothing will happen, pretty much like
-The wraith
-The giant
-The shadow
-The flying monkeys
-Marshmallow
-Chernabog
and now the Fury
It doesn't need like a real threat anymore
I don't even know why they keep bringing these creatures.
It's not exciting anymore when a monster/creature appears in town because we already know nothing will happen, pretty much like
-The wraith
-The giant
-The shadow
-The flying monkeys
-Marshmallow
-Chernabog
and now the Fury
It doesn't need like a real threat anymore
I don't even know why they keep bringing these creatures.
It's a troupe, heroes fighting monsters. Of course the hero is going to win. I mean no one expects them to kill off Regina and replace her with a CGI Fury that doesn't talk. XD It doesn't mean they shouldn't keep showing these things though, because, as I said, it is a troupe, and most of the things are iconic things from stories, which is what the show is all about.
I am MORE THAN CURIOUS about a behind the scenes photo from Larry Andreutti's Flikr page showing Regina ripping her own heart out??? For the past 3 months, I thought she was going to save Robin by choosing to split her heart in two like she did for Snow & Charming in season 3. I have to admit, I'm a little disappointed that didn't happen. I think it would have solidified them more as a couple/"soulmates" and as Robin being more than a recurring guest role on the show.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/110865913@N05/19504866934/in/album-72157656122717678/
Oh, well. I can still make it my own headcanon, right?
And to address your concerns about Emma using magic to heal Robin, my friend on Tumblr said it best.
"The act of saving someone’s life was not the evil part of it. It was the fact that in order to save Robin’s life, Emma had to use the only magic she’s capable of now - Dark Magic. And just like when Regina used it for the first time and was afraid of it because (in her own words) she “loved it,” the fear is that even though the use was for good, Emma gets a taste of that magic and darkness and loves it too much to keep fighting to be who she once was.
I actually thought that was a smart show of writing - how is Emma’s darkness going to be different from Rumple’s? She has used magic now only once to hurt and was talked down, and has it solely because she saved someone’s life."
Now that you mention that Japanese anime commonly uses the theme of people banding together to fight and defeat an enemy, I recall they did that often in Sailor Moon, which I was an avid watcher of when I was a teen.
I liked that Emma was forced into a dilemma of using dark magic again, even if she was doing it for what she believed was a correct reason, which was to save Robin's life. Kind of like what Merlin told her, even when someone does something for the right reasons, bad things will happen. I believe that's true in Emma's case because no matter how much she tries to not use dark magic or only use it one or two times for reasons she deems necessary, there are consequences to that since the very nature of her magic is dark in itself, and the fact there is the allure of power she is getting drawn into. It doesn't matter if Emma has good intentions by using dark magic because the end result is never going to be good simply because it's dark magic she's using, not light magic. In the end, while she was able to save Robin, she had to take a price from Regina for it. Whether Regina paid that price in those six weeks has yet to be seen, but the last episode seems to give the impression Regina did not and Emma didn't tell her about the price either.
Not sure if I said this before, but that whole "Price" conversation between Emma and Rumple sheds a little more light on a lot of Rumple's dealings in previous seasons. "All Magic Comes with a Price", and all of his deals and contracts, really start to make even more sense. I always just accepted it as part of who Rumple was, but now it turns out that it's more of who the Darkness is, and not Rumple.
I mean... it makes sense that "all magic comes with a price" because things need to be in balance... But we never see prices except for when the plot needs it. We didn't see Nyx coming for Rumple for defying Neal's fate by absorbing him. We didn't see the Fury come after Cinderella or Cora (both of whom made deals with Rumple where the price was their firstborn. As in, a life.)
And the only time we've ever seen prices when it comes to good magic is when Tink failed Regina and lost her wings (though that wasn't a magical price, unless you believe in karma), and when Pinocchio was told that his transformation would be undone if he wasn't selfless, brave and true. Though both situations were instigated by Blue, who's even older than the Dark One.
I think this time the price was different because they used DARK magic to spare a life. If Regina cured Robin there would have been no consequences, but she couldn't because the sword was poisoned to kill her.