Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-24386552-20141110024916/@comment-25602483-20141110231038

Andrew.scott.503 wrote:

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:

DarlingDavies wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Dr. Kangaroo wrote: I wonder if Ingrid remembers this when she got out of the urn. Since Elsa doesn't know how she got inside the urn, how can Ingrid know it? Elsa got out of the urn in 2013 in our world and she immediately didn't remember. So Ingrid can't have removed her memories. I just need to see the episode in which we see how Elsa got trapped... Most logical explanation is that since we know Ingrid can wipe memories (like with Emma) she did the same with Elsa before Elsa was put in the urn.

Also, I wish every villain had a Helga in their life! Regina could've coped with Daniel's loss, Rumple would've had someone to curb his homocidal tendencies (at least for about 20-30 years), etc. I wish Helga somehow comes back as Ingrid's hallucination or something. One of the best characters we've ever had and I hate the Duke of Weaselton for her death.

Can she take memories? Is that the concensus? I know Emma keeps saying "you took my memories". But I guess I thought the only memory-taker out there was Grand Pabbie and of course, certain curses. And I am also fairly certain that my interpretation on that could be incorrect. Well, unless Ingrid kidnapped Pabbie (which we know is not the case, as he's already in Storybrooke as a lawn ornament) chances are Ingrid used a memory potion like the ones Zelena, Regina and Blue can all concoct, whether to give them back or take them away. I thought the lawn ornament was an evil Gnome that Regina cursed into stone the first time she tried (and failed) to cast the dark curse (season 1)? The reason why I don't think SQ took Emma's memories is simple. She drank the potion hook gave her and she didn't even remember her past with the snow queen. I think it is more of a repressed memories, maybe amnesia caused by magic can be undone by a simple memory potion, but something that is intentionally repressed due to probably, sever, bad, unfortunately circumstances maybe beyond the memory potion's ability.I mean Emma has already been exposed to two curses that was broken by true love's kiss, the most powerful magic capable of breaking any curse, and yet she never really remembered anything. Emma's past with SQ is sure is mysterious.

OR

Ingrid learned how Gran pabbie takes away memories and did it to Elsa and Emma. I don't know at this point,