Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-11464223-20131118032545/@comment-24206841-20131124002416

Nickclark89 wrote: What a way of rape and tear the story of JM Barrie who must be dying again in his f*cking grave. And no, I don't mean the fact that he is the father of Rumple, this was kind of obvious since earlier in the season (" family reunion", make the breakfast, bla bla) back then everything pointed that they were brothers, whatever .... HOW ORIGINAL writers, yes sir , what a familiar tree we got here. But the fact is that if they would do well, it would have been cool an adult Peter Pan who never wanted to grow up, because that is the true spirit of the character, "The boy who would not grow up", cool idea. I could care less who is the father of Rumple, this series has us very used to relate everyone with everyone.

The moment I was dreading of, all these weeks has come, DING DONG, bullet straight to my geek heart. Peter Pan is not possessed, nor is captive while another who calls himself Peter Pan takes his place , no no no... He is the real Peter Pan, the child who kidnapped his own grandson and great-grandson, the child who abandoned her own child, the child who tried to kill the family of his son and killed other people , the child who held captive Wendy for nearly 100 years ... The child... Is .. Peter Pan!? Redemption? Peter Pan does not deserve redemption because they doesn't need it, because Peter Pan has never been evil, and this version is a f*cking bastard. Since the season two finale I was hoping an explanation, a corrupted Peter Pan for some reason, but he is evil for what? Never want to grow up? Immortality?

Where is the spoiled and lovely child that we all know and love? Sorry JM Barrie, the four walls of your coffin must be very uncomfortable now.

I left The Walking Dead by outrage to see dear characters of the comic being bad adapted (Andrea's first), and now the same thing is happening here with OUAT. Fool of me that I keep watching fiction based on characters that I love with all my being.

I will wait for upcoming episodes to see what happen.

Yes, my english sucks. Sorry about that. Greetings from Spain. I'm hoping that the theory "Peter Pan held captive while another is kept in his place" might still work. After all I found something fishy about the deal Malcolm made with the Shadow. For some reason I can't connect Malcolm and Peter Pan. Though looking more at it, I guess I can see resemblance :( Hoping I'm wrong...tho think I'm not.) Still Peter Pan seems much more smarter then the man who used to call himself Rumplestiltskin's father. Why did he name him that? Anyway...what if Peter Pan isn't really a person...I mean, maybe he used to be and he created Neverland, but then something terrible happened and he died, but left his Shadow behind so that the Shadow may one day find him again. See the original Peter Pan probably wasn't human, so Shadow, who is basically the essence left over the previous child demi-god Peter Pan, needed a vessel to leave Neverland and find someone worthy to take over. He saw that Malcolm was willing to give anything to stay in Neverland and that he had the mentality of a child so transformed Malcolm to the child-like personage of his previous master all the while searching for his real master, a real boy that had the same mind as the previous and first Peter Pan. Malcolm caught on and it's either he found the real Peter Pan (or at least the second one) by using Hook, becuase Hook did say he made a deal with Pan to get out of the island, could be to capture the real boy would be the ruler of Neverland hence duel at the Jolly Roger, or Henry is actually supposed to be Peter Pan.

u know what, kinda sounds like I'm making my own story, there's more to it, but ya sounds like a whole other story. I'm still curious as to whose Shadow that belongs too.

I hate the twist too (tho I'll admit it was also brilliant, only cause I read what this other person said about it, and I thought the same thing, referencing a little on the Peter Pan syndrome) and how they're protraying Peter Pan...Why are they putting Rumplestiltkin in every story!!! I like Hook vs. Peter Pan just fine!!! Rumplestilkin vs. Peter Pan seems to be the main conflict, I mean why are they making such a meaningless connection that has nothing to do with the original story. Can understand that their retelling it to be different then the original, but relating this and every other frikin fairy tale story in the universe to Rumplestilskin!!! He might as well be the main protagonist, not Emma Swan, that or Henry(but their doing horribly with his character, hopefully next episode will fix that). I love his character fine! They did a great job! Would be great if they told us more of Peter Pan, and why he doesn't want to grow up. I'm still waiting for that. You don't just take a classical beloved character, make him evil, and do so without a good explanation. Peter Pan was supposed to be an innocent child forced into a twisted innocense of never growing up and always forgetting his memories till he's rewinded back to his initial laugh and thoughts. It's okay if Once didn't go that route, just wanted a good explanation to his nature because that was one of the biggest mysteries of the original tale, that and Hook's conflictions over Good Form, that was an awesome show.