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I loved this episode!

This I didn't like (putting this first because it's smaller)

1. Charming's "It's who we are". And the general idea around that family in general. I hate the concept that "Good will win just because it's good". It's basically saying you have the right to victory, and a lot of harm as been done because of that thinking. Especially when it's being stated by someone who gave into revenge, and showed herself to be no better.

2.Greg and Tamara's death: Like many people, I hated these characters. They seemed out of place to me, not even getting into their crusade. Greg I can kind of get, with his history, but they never even went into Tamara. However, them being killed in the first two seconds of the show seemed weak to me. I liked how Greg's death was used to show the power of the shadow. I get why they did it, but it didn't seem the best way to go about it

3. The fight on the boat. I loved that they finally got the chance to vent, but, during a storm?! Hook and Charming made no sense, Charming was supposed to be a military leader, you'd think he would manage to control his emotions long enough to look past a simple insult and try to help them all survive. Again, I know why they [the writers] did this, to show Emma as a leader, since she was the one to figure it out. But really, there is a time and place for everything

What I loved

1. Regina: I love her character in general, standing on the border of good and evil all the time. But, going with my annoyance at Snow, I loved Regina calling her out on it. The Rainbow kisses and stickers line was good, but I really liked her statement about how that belief might somehow work in the Enchanted Forest, but it wouldn't fly in Neverland. After everything that happened in Storybrooke, you'd think they would have realized that they can't just assume they win, and i like her calling them out on it. That, and she was the one who drove off the mermaids, and was willing to do something about the mermaid (even if it was wrong)

2. Neal: His story was handled well, I didn't think I'd like it much, but they did a good job with how he reacted to being back.

3. Rumplestiltskin: Robert Carlyle is an amazing actor, and the writers give him good stuff to work with, the result rocks. I liked the mystery introduced in the episode, was that doll his, Baelfire's, his father's?

4. Peter Pan: I like him so far, he seems like an enteresting bad guy

5. Emma: Her statement at the end. There is no right way, there is only victory

Hope:

"Forget a woman scorned, those two are proof that an angry mother is something whose fury hell hath no"

I want someone to say a line like that. I don't expect Emma and regina to become friends, but they want the exact same thing, and i think they should be able to bond over it