Board Thread:Rant and Rave/@comment-37021726-20180926104326/@comment-34397172-20180926203756

Schroeswald wrote: TIAB1234 wrote: Schroeswald wrote: TIAB1234 wrote: Schroeswald wrote: TIAB1234 wrote: Schroeswald wrote: TIAB1234 wrote: Schroeswald wrote: TIAB1234 wrote: HtbpFilms wrote: Can we just talk about how the writers never speak of the tragedy that is "if the wish realm is real SHE KILLED A REAL SNOW AND A REAL CHARMING! This is just terrible, They go as far as to even have WISH HENRY mourn their losses yet..... We don't even get the real regina mourning there LOSS!. The only way I can reconcile this in my mind is that in WISH SNOW and WISH CHARMING were of an old age and lived a long happy life...Even though that life according to the writers was not created until 1 day before they were killed. Regina would never have done this had she known. But even worse WHEN SHE DOES FIND OUT wish rumble and wish henry and wish hook etc are real, She never circles back to OMG I killed snow and her husband!! Now to how they coudl have fixed this: If they would have created a story arc about the wish realm characters hearts being frozen and not beating until they exited that realm, and upon exiting the realm into the real one, boom we get this dramatic scene where there hearts start behaving normally and they become permenantly real! I would have loved that, that's how I would write it. They could have even connected it to something simiar to pinochhio where he was NOT REAL and made of wood but with magic from their world he became real except in this case all it takes is fake characters entering the real world. Does anyone else share my frustration and would the idea I put forward to fix it be entertaining to watch as an explanation episode? Let me know!

Hmmm...The only way to fix this loose end is killing off the evil murderer like in all stories. Of this could only happen in a possible revival, or retcon bad plots. Don't take that based as frustration. I think confronting her more in Leaving Storybrooke and her contemplating it during the Wish Robin arc is the best. Regina should have reckoned with this murder but killing her off in he finale years after the redemption just doesn’t make sense. Even for Rumple? He got killed off in the finale after his redemption, all because of the loose end of Henry being his doom. So it would've made sense for her. Don't think I want it that way, just saying. Not going to argue how you think, but Still it's not right for what the writer wrote for the murder of Wish Snow as most people pointed out. Murdering Graham and lying about was not redeemable either, just to be fair. It wasn’t just for his redemption, he had been mostly redeemed at that point, he was killed because that was the plan for him to reunite with Belle (and let Bobby leave)and not letting him die wouldn’t pay off his arc. I am annoyed that no one cares about Graham but that should have been dealt with before S7, when Emma was in the show. I know that it was also about reuniting with Belle already. Still like I said, his death settled more than just that loose end. 1. Reuniting with Belle, 2. Being killed off to justify the murders of Charlotte and real Fairy god mother, 3. Finally settled the prophecy of Henry being his undoing. Reuniting with Belle=Dying. Also he has had at least 78 confirmed kills, with more possibilities and you choose Charlotte and the fairy godmother? '''I chose those two as an example of innocent victims. Those two were innocent, i didb’t Pick villains he killed like The Black Fairy, Malcolm, Milah, & Gaston for example, cause they got what they deserved for their bad deeds.'''

The show doesn’t kill people off because they killed someone, they do because it would help the plot, '''Technically not true. And tell that about Cora. She paid for the murders of people like Snow’s mother, and Johana (though Regina did the killing Johana. So clearly the show is known to kill off villains for killing a loved one. We all saw it.'''

also the last person he killed before himself was the Black Fairy which was decades ago (for him at least).Like I said, she deserved it. I would like to disagree with you that Milah/Gaston deserved it, they werent great people but Milah wasn’t evil and Gaston was trying to change even if it didn’t stick. And then Gaston reverted in the end before he fell into the river Styx. He still showed treachery to Belle in both ways. Like what Malcolm did, Milah abandoned Bae for her own selfish ways and left him under a lie about her being dead.

Cora wasn’t killed for being evil, she was killed because her arc was done and she was the main villain of it,'''That’s what I was referring g to. For what she had done. I never said she was killed cause she was evil. You misunderstood. '''

same reason that Greg and Tamara, Pan, Zelena (for a bit), Ingrid, Cruella, Hades, the Black Fairy and Gothel, they needed to die to be defeated. Which is exactly what I was trying to refer too.

So the last time he killed an innocent person was before the first curse, which could be more than 80 years ago, and still he deserved to die?'''Forget about timelines. They always get settled no matter when..''' 1.I know that neither of them are great, I'm arguing that they aren't evil, also Gaston was killed while trying to be a hero.'''And I already told you, like I said about Cora, I never said anything about them because they were evil. I was referring to their bad deeds'''

2. That was saying that they aren't killed because of the plot, which was what I was saying, you said the show killed people for killing loved ones, the show kills people to wrap up their arcs or to further other people's arcs. '''Which was not what I was talking about. I didn’t even say the murders of loved ones were the “only” reason. And I never said People were killed only because of loved ones. And no matter what arc, these little plots would always get settled in a way.'''

3. I'm not arguing about the timelines, I'm saying that the last time he murdered someone was (at least for him) decades ago and so people change significantly in 80 years. And like I informed, they got settled anyway.