Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4519633-20141022032431/@comment-24264679-20160529140507

Eskaver wrote: KnocknickKnock wrote: Eskaver wrote: KnocknickKnock wrote: 1. Regina never said Emma was more powerful than her.

In the bridge scene she said that Emma had potential that she was wasting. No where in that scene did she say Emma had mpre potential than her or that Emma was stronger.

In the hospital scene during the wicked witch arc Regina said that Emma's light magic was the onlything powerful enough to take out Zeleena and that she wasn't strong enough. It had everything to so with Emma having light magic and nothing to do with Emma being more powerful than her.

'''No, not that. During 3x17 when Regina prompts Emma to look across realms. Exact lines after Regina says to check out on Ariel and walks to the mirror:'''

Emma: I thought you couldn't use mirror magic to look between worlds

Regina: I can't. But after seeing the raw power that you possess, I think maybe you can.

'''Then Emma does it. Emma has more raw power than Regina and even Zelena has shone to have the power to use a mirror to look across realms in Ruby Slippers when she (in Hellish) showed Oz.'''

2. They state that there will be a moment when the Evil Queen won't have her magic. The Evil Queen didn't have any magic and on top of that she wasn't even focused on Emma. Blue did the same thing when Regina tried to rip Mary's marget heart out in the forest then she throw Fairy dust trapping her. It didn't work a second time though as Regina easily caught and destroyed the fairy dust. There s a huge difference between being faster and catching someone off Guard when they are vunerable. Context is so important in that scene and so much was left out in your post.

'''Nope, a moment where she'd be disoriented and won't be able to use her magic. But we can dismiss that because it wasn't clear. It was like half a minute since separation and she didn't even look disoriented. But I'll pass on that.'''

3. Rumple only absorbed Nimue and Merlin power. The darkness simply left Rumple and went into Emma. It was the exact same power Rumple possessed. The only reason Emma was considered more powerful because of her light magic. Raw power doesn't transfer from 1 dark one to the next only the knowledge they possesses and the darkness itself.

'''The Holy Grail magic is what passes from one Dark One to the other. This HG magic all Dark Ones (from Nimue) have and have used. Emma gained that plus her normal light magic. So, when I said Emma plus Hook, I meant their dark powers, as Emma keeps her light magic.'''

Nimue + Merlin's HG magic = Emma + Hook's HG magic (don't know what the Apprentice's wand is powered by then) = Rumple's current HG magic.

It's more like the HG magic + Darkness travel to each new Dark One, then the previous DO is left powerless (and well, dead), but they never explained why Nimue had her powers still, but who knows! Comments in bold. Saying "I can't do that, but I saw your power, so you can do that" means one has more raw power than the other.

That comment doesn't work. It was also thought that Regina couldn't defeat Zeleena and then bam it happened. It was also said that Regina cudln't use the wand and what did she do she used the wand. On top of that Regina in the underworld arc used the magic mirror to look into Oz. Not to mention in EF she used her magic mirror to look in on her mother in Wonderland. Regina didn't, it was Zelena. If Regina said she couldn't do it, but seeing Emma's raw power, she thought Emma could do it.....that means that the writers were saying that Emma had more raw power. What you are saying about Regina can't defeat Zelena was never spoken and the wand was a weird retcon because there was no reason why Regina shouldn't have been able to use it besides "believing in herself".

Regina using Sidney is Sidney's helping her.

Regina says she can't look across worlds with a normal mirror, but Emma can. Simple statement that says Emma has more raw power. She has never look across realms unless it was with the Magic Mirror (hint hint, the magic mirror has powers of its own as Henry uses it to talk to Cora).

Tell me where anyone said (besides Zelena's taunts) that Regina could never defeat Zelena. I'm certain there isn't one. I'm very sure there isn't any stated line saying that.

Each magic user must use there own magic to create a looking glass. It was Zeleena's mirror but it was Regina's magic that created the looking glass when she was using it. If you see the scene when Emma uses the looking glass you would know that it isn't automatically enchanted and that it needs magic to activate it. Zeleena was holding the mirror Regina was.