Board Thread:Rant and Rave/@comment-24593235-20180208195814/@comment-1826156-20180208202320

4b was definitely a low point and I don't think the show ever recovered from it. You can even remove it except for a handfull of episodes and it has little bearing on the rest of the show that came after. Lily's plot was a total waste of time. At least send her off or something. Instead we're just expected to believe she and Maleficent are hanging out while all this stuff goes down. Do they even mention any of the plots besides Cruella's later in the show?

Regina was intolerable. I get that she is sad, but her logic was all over the place and it made her a weak character.

The Queen's of Darkness were not that great. As said above, they are called a redeeming factor this season. I'm just going to say it. They were not great. Cruella's acting was decent and fun to watch, but she was pointless. Ursula was so wasted. Takes Ariel's plot and rehashes it, lame excuse as to there being two Ursulas and then she resolves her Daddy issues and drops out. Maleficent had her moments and I was glad to see her get more time, but this witch deserved her own ark. I could have even seen her being the Black Fairy. Until this season I thought she would be. They brutalized the Sleeping Beauty story. So anticlimactic.

And really, to be called the Queens of Darkness, they weren't even that dark. Sure, Cruella was evil and twisted, but it was almost more like a mental illness than true evil and Maleficent and Ursula came off as kind of...less than evil. More just misunderstood.

Snow and Charming were given some depth but it was pretty rushed and eye roll worthy for the most part since they dropped the whole Lily thing way too early.

Emma going from tough, rough girl to purest light and sacred princess and then to out for blood was stupid.

4a was so meh, but 4b was worse.

And I still loved it. Haha.