Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26509198-20150618164335/@comment-24674051-20150619143843

I think the reason a lot of people ship Frankenwolf is the obvious connection to Frankenstein meets the Werewolf (a twist on Frankenstein meets the Wolfman, one of many old B&W horror films with Lon Chaney Jr and Bela Legosi). While Red is EF (Red Riding Hood), her Werewolf altar ego would fit well with the LWC, which is where Dr. Victor Frankenstein comes in.

In response to the "Pedophile marriage" comment earlier (I forget who made it), that is true by applying today's standards. However, if you think back to the times actually represented by the stories, it was not uncommon for girls of 13 or 14 to be married and have children. (My own ancestry has more than one woman from the 1700 and 1800 era that were 14 when they had their first child). Boys were generally considered "of age" at around 13, when they could take on apprenticeships and learn a trade. And conscription of "young men" into the army (like what we saw in Desperate Soul) would not be unheard of.

Finally, I said CaptainSwan was rushed. Sure, it's been over 3 seasons, and if timeline of the show matched what has passed here, I might go along with that. There might have been a little initial chemestry, but nothing came of season 2. The first half of season 3 happened over the course of a week in which Neal was (apparantly) killed and found to be alive (Quite an emotional roller coaster for Emma). And while there was a year gap in the middle, Emma was not aware of anything, and so did not process any potential feelings she might have had. Killian obviously did, so from his side, I can see it not rushed. But then the 3B arc took maybe 2 weeks (if that), during which Emma was more focused on saving her parents and getting back to new york. No time to process any relationship.

Then comes the season 3 finale. Here, we finally get the first real interaction between Killian and Emma, when Emma realizes that Killian came after her. There was a lot that went down during that 2 hours (which was barely overnight timeline wise), and while the end of the episode finally had some romantic interaction between Emma and Killian, it felt like someone had taken a wrecking ball to the walls that Emma had erected. (which, ok, someone needed to take a wrecking ball to that wall, but that is a whole nuther topic.)

Finally, Frozen happens on the heels of Wicked, and it takes at most a week. So between the end of season 2 and season 4B, Emma and Killian have spent a total of 2, maybe 3, weeks together. and most of that under highly stressful and unusual siturations. Then there is the 6 to 9 week gap between 4a and 4b that is relatively calm. Of course, we don't see anything, but I think there we can assume that they had a moment to experience some normal relationship (maybe even one or two movie nights watching netflix). But by this point, everyone was saying Captain Swan was a OTP.

So from a timeline perspective, from a storyline perspective, it all felt a little rushed. That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. I'm all for Captain Swan, I think there are some very good things about that relationship, but it doesn't change my opinion of how they got there.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled topic discussion, already in progress.