Board Thread:Rant and Rave/@comment-25491743-20180209181244/@comment-1826156-20180415035640

Eskaver wrote: I want to counter the overreaction to the vocal minority. I don’t defend that but I don’t think there’s any positive discussion in bashing a fandom into oblivion due to a minority in some sort of echo chamber.

It’s rant and Rave but I don’t think there’s some adequate conversation going on. Just trying to keep hate trains (my vocab) from going off the rails.

Example: Some See Zelena as a rapist that has not done enough for redemption and constantly point that out. I can point that out, but I think it’s best to present a case for your side, find aggreement and figure out a solution or root of the issue.

Just don’t want to see (example) of a train of “SQ is wacky and never going to happen and some, not all, call people names” “Yeah, those suck.” “Yeah, they say outrageous things like racism and sexism, etc” “Yeah, problematic stuff.”

I think there could be a root to the differences that can be deciphered and something everyone can gain from discussion. It feels too surface level. But then again, I think ships are the toxic element that makes the interaction online bad, no one fandom, just the whole fandom is plagued on all sides, even if some flare up. Well, I agree with you on most points. I'm not trying to say all SQ fans are that out of touch, obviously. Just that when you see outrageous stuff it's usually from them (or another non canon shipper). Personally I don't like shipping. I don't mind people who do as long as it doesn't overwhelm everything else (which happens a lot with both canon and noncanon ones).

As for seeing Regina and Zelena as rapists, they have committed the act, but have been redeemed, I don't consider someone who used to steal a thief, so I wouldn't still label them as rapists. However, since I don't qualify as a victim I will not pretend to know how much it could bother someone who is a victim of rape to watch poeple get away with it. ​​​​​​​As we've all discussed enough on here, they handled it badly and there was never any real apology made or even acknowledgment. There won't be since Andy and Eddy don't see it that way to begin with.

I will curb my ranting, though. It's just SQ was probably the first real negative experience I had with the fandom and often continues to be so. I am not trying to offend anyone. Sorry if I did.