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Eskaver wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Onceuponatimeuser97 wrote: I did watch "The Doctor" again recently and notice the speech between Rumple and Jefferson, and I feel it doesn't really clearly state the Glass Slippers to be in the LWM. Jefferson said it was in another land and Rumple mentioned he need the slippers to get to this other land. Both could have been referring to other worlds. Rumple could have been saying the LWM as the "other land" as he might had wanted to keep his secret to go tothe LWM. He revealed that the land is the LWM when Jefferson offered him a ride in the hat. So it isn't really clear about the Slippers whereabouts(Off topic)

Kansas for me is still ambiguous, especially the cyclone part, I'm pretty sure to create a cyclone, a lot of magic is need and if a cyclone can appear in the LWM just like that to take Dorothy, it can't really be the LWM anymore. The other characters outside of Storybrooke that uses magic is perhaps only the Dragon and the Apperentice, and their magic isn't as strong as the cyclone. It never is explained how the Dragon used magic in our world... Same for the Apprentice, who was able to create portals to send Ingrid through.

Thankfully, the writers reminded us of him in Enter The Dragon. Hopefully it was for a reason.

And again, if the magical, talking Shadow could enter our world, so could anything else that's magical. The LWM is just the Land Without (Native) Magic to be honest, 'cause time and again magic has been used outside the confines of Storybrooke as well as within it when magic didn't exist. Zelena's Glamour Spell, the Apprentice's portals, Bae's bean portal, the Dragon's... whatevers, Lily's eggshell and its rejuvinative properties, Ingrid's memory stones, etc. Try not to get off topic. Portals are easily explained by creating holes in both realms to connect them briefly. Doesn't mean a world has magic because you can use a portal. We don't know if the Dragon or the apprentice had an item to use to help them use magic. Zelena used a magical item to use the glamour spell. Think of items as small depotis of magic to use. It doesn't mean there is magic in the world or else Regina, Zelena and even Emma would use magic outside of Storybrooke. Emma used magic both in Phoenix while giving birth to Henry and in Minnesota while in the carnival with Ingrid. And she not only had no magical items, she had no idea magic existed.