Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-1916997-20151225192609/@comment-26159109-20151225205727

Eskaver wrote: Farerb wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: Farerb wrote: I just don't get why is it so hard for people to understand that you can like something and acknowledge its flaws. Just because I don't go around and give praise for every lazy thing they've done doesn't mean I don't like it. When the show is good, it's really good and when it's bad, it's really bad, which makes me understand why people can feel frustrated with it sometimes. I am mostly angry because I can see all the potential they have. A&E are not bad writers, they did give us S1 and a lot of original adaptations of stories we used to know (like Peter Pan - what they did was something that was original and wasn't done before), so I get really angry when they become lazy, when plot doesn't make sense or when characters are just there as instruments ti move the plot along even if it means compromising their development. If I didn't like it then I wouldnt be so passionate about it. Sorry that I don't want to shut my brains off when I want to be entertained or that I have high standards as to what I what I watch, listen or read or that I don't buy the distractions that the show gives its audience to deflect their attention to what it does badly. There is a big difference between acknowledging flaws, and taking shots at the show every chance you get. There within the problem lies. And nothing will ever be 100% perfect to 100% of those that watch, read, listen, etc. to it. What you find as a flaw, I may find as an asset, and vice versa. Plot holes, retcons and character assasination should not be found as assets by anyone. Maybe if they worked harder on their scripts like they used to in the first 2 seasons and a half, it would be harder for me to find its flaws, or not as many as I find now. But as I play Hades' advocate, certain retcons actually could be helpful and beneficial to the show. In both points, plot holes are bad, but the show can't be perfect, but it's equally valuable to point out those plot holes and discuss them to make certain that they are plot holes and if there are any theories or future explanations concerning them.

Yes. I agree that sometimes retcons make sense and I can accept them if they are not blatant, if they help develop a character (like Regina in 309) or if they make more sense in the overall timeline (like if they ever wanted to retcon Wonderland to be after S4, I'm all for it). They pretty much bocome bad when they are either create plot holes or assasinate characters development or their backstories (like Snow and Charming in 4B).