Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-34924658-20171011174848/@comment-25375217-20171012002607

CoolDudeAl wrote: Tysonjackson wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: I agree with most of the things mentioned so far, but a few of them are a bit of a stretch. Which ones? Off of Dat's list, these are the ones I don't quite agree with, with reasoning:

REGINA:


 * The Stepmother from Hansel & Gretel - Out of the ones I don't quite agree with, this one probably has the most merit, but even still, I'm not sure Regina fills the role of the stepmother, so much as they needed to tie Hansel and Gretel to one of the main cast members in Season 1 (every Season 1 FB tied to a main cast member in some way), and the easiest way was to make Regina have them get the poisioned apple back from the Blind Witch.

In various versions of Hansel & Gretel, the Stepmother (or sometimes just Mother) is the one who sends Hansel and Gretel into the woods where they encounter the Blind/Gingerbread Witch. Regina fills this role directly.

RUMPLESTILTSKIN:

In killing the Fairy Godmother and inserting himself into Cinderella's story, Rumple fulfills the role of the Fairy Godmother. It was a Once twist, but, again, he directly fills the role.
 * The Fairy Godmother from Cinderella - Rumple kills the Fairy Godmother so he can insert himself into Cinderella's story. It was one of the first examples of a Once twist. He isn't the Fairy Godmother though, he just finished what she was going to do, had he not killed her.
 * Both Beowulf and the Grendel from Beowulf - Not sure where this is coming from. Beowulf was shown to be his own character, and the Grendel was shown to be a trick Beowulf plays

Beowulf and Grendel is a little more abstract -- the backstory, while featuring Beowulf, depicts Rumple as both the beast and the hero. Beowulf frames him as the beast, a title he eventually accepts to protect Baelfire. However, he plays the hero by taking down Beowulf, who also fills the role of the Grendel, and protecting Baelfire.

PRINCE CHARMING:


 * King David from the Bible - Although they purposely chose lots of biblical names around Charming (David, Ruth, James, etc.), I don't think anything he did was actually a direct corolation to the Bible.

His trivia section goes pretty in-depth on this. He is much closer to King David than Emma is to Christ -- which is really just that she's the Savior, died to save Gideon and the world, and came back to life.

EMMA SWAN:

Odette and Odile come from the fact that the writers explicitly called Emma the Black Swan in some late-Season 4 and pre-Season 5 interviews. If the Dark Swan is Odile, presumably the Savior Swan is Odette.
 * Both Odette and Odile from Swan Lake - This one comes up a lot, but we have no actual story connections to Swan Lake for Emma. Just because she became a Dark One for one arc does not Emma, Swan Lake make.
 * Christ from the Bible - She has a few similarities to Christ because they are both Saviors. It doesn't mean she is purposefully referencing Christ.

Christ is a bit of a stretch, but the concept of a Savior as a chosen, powerful person originates from the Bible and all other uses of it that I know of are references to the Bible (such as Narnia and Star Wars). Without the Biblical backstory, the word "savior" is nothing special.

SIDNEY GLASS:

 I got this one from the wiki's page on The Snow Queen. I didn't really put any thought into it.
 * The Trollden Glass from The Snow Queen - Sidney was not The Trolden Glass, that was the mirror Ingrid was making. Sidney merely brought her a piece.