Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26234227-20151106103951/@comment-25926288-20151106181351

CoolDudeAl wrote: A couple of points here:

1. While everyone has a right to criticize the show all they want, Esk, your making it sound like you are directly giving your and other's "constructive criticism" to the creators. Let's be honest, the creators are not seeing anything we write on here, so basically all you and others are doing is complaining to other fans about what you dislike. And half of the complains are due to my next point.

2. Suspension of disbelief. This is something you need to have in order to enjoy alot of fiction, especially those genres that have not real world things happening. It seems some people on here have a real problem with doing this. Just in case any one doesn't know what that is, or doesn't know why it is important to have, here is a helpful link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief

3. My final point is, even with all these things though, at the end of the day, you can't please everybody. Person A may want Emma shipped with Hook, Person B may want Emma shipped with Neal, Person C may want Emma shipped with Regina, and Person D may want Emma to not have a romantic relationship with anybody. So guess what? Whichever way the creators go, 3 people out of those 4 are going to be unhappy. So we don't need to hear how they have ruined Emma's love life, because it is the creator's choice which of those 4 options (or the hundreds of possible others) they go with. 1. Well, I speak for myself so there are no others I speak for. Every episode we discuss what ewe like and what we don't like. To not discuss what we don't like is negating half of the discussion. We all have different viewpionts and backgrounds and we can come dbate what we see as amazing and what we see as troubling. We discuss the negative things of the show to grow our perspectives. Let me be clearer---I discuss MY perspective to engage in a conversation to help grow that perspective in either a positive or negative way. That is what a discussion is. Can't be---"Oh that was cool. Look how cool that was"........and nothijng else. If a fan sees something as a plot hole, then we can discuss ways it isn't. As I do say fans shouldn't have phenomenal sway over a show, but they do have some sway as we do see some forms of fanservice, acknowledging what some fans like.

2. I'll speak for me (and the trees XD). We all have degrees of SoD. I do have it for sure, otherwise, I probably wouldn't enjoy fantasy so much. I don't know what problem people have with that, but I do know that SOD is not the number one problem (though I think it's like number 3).

3.I agree with that.

4. Anyone can go live with their heads in the clouds, but it's nice to ground things in reality. If we only had positive points, we'd never get anywhere. I'm sure you, like all of us had something we disagreed on that the showrunners did. We discuss it, then we get over it.

Back to my consrtuctive criticism part, don't put quotes around it because you are side-stepping what I said with speculation and disbelief. I don't mean those that complain about every little thing and those that seem to hate the show with more negative comments than positive ones. So, there is no "quotation marks" around what I mean.

Let's simplify this down to a book discussion. In like a Book club, you don't just praise the Author for everything they do. You analyze it, critique it, and much more. And guess what? That Author won't hear it or even care about it at all. This is what we are doing here.

Search the web across the forums of Once, reddits, and more. Find something that only sing the-I'm getting a tad frustrated. I give the writers credit where it is due, but I give them criticism as well. I even start of with "praises" at the start of every episode discussion. WE say what we like, dislike, find common ground or keep to ourselves our opinion. Everyone has a right to establish and announce their opinion, as long as it is relevant.

There's one thing critiquing how a character is handled and another complaining about acting, appearance, or CGI effects.