Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26412219-20150803161431/@comment-26184894-20150803185220

Eskaver wrote: Kingfan22 wrote: I think it's rumple's fault. He plays a big role in almost all the villains turning evil and was willing to ruin the live of multiple people and destroy the lives of hundreds more just for his own selfishness. He put in basically all the work in casting the dark curse everyone else was just pawns in his plans Well, one can't blame Rumple for all of it, only partial at best. He didn't make Regina cast the curse. Regina is in her 30s and I think she can think for herself. Regina could have found other ways to her happiness and even other ways to her revenge.

Rumple doesn't make people do anything, he just nudges. Rumple didn't make Cora who she was. Cora was liek that and was the one that requested to learn magic. So on and so on.

You can say that he partially helped Snow and Charming to get together, so he didn't only manipulate evil, villainous things.

Who's fault is it that the curse was casted by Regina? Why it's Regina herself. Who's responsible for the Dark Curse in general? Merlin, simply because I'm sure he could have destroyed it or something. Agree whole heartedly, Regina is a grown woman and can think for herself, but that does not change the fact that rumple literally has been manipulating her life since before she was born.

Everything rumple does is for rumple(which is why I love him). The only reason he ever helped snow and charming was because he needed Emma. Just like when he protected snow and charming from Regina and heavily implied that the only way for her to get her revenge was to cast the dark curse.

If the circumstances were different, I would agree with you, but the moment rumple puffed into Regina's life he started manipulating her and only half way stopped after she cast the curse.

Rumple spent centuries leveling the playing field so the curse would get cast. Always there at the right moment, when the characters are at their most vulnerable, so he can manipulate them into doing what he wants.

He didn't create it or cast it but he is the reason it was cast.