Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-11058666-20150819040345/@comment-25926288-20150820034816

DavidTennantismyAngel wrote: "I think it's Robert Carlyle's acting that even after Rumple deceiving Belle and how Belle would have little self-respect to crumble to his needs, he stil can make me feel sad for him." Isn't that victim-shaming Belle? People always say that she's weak and spineless for putting up with Rumple's abuse, but I think she's actually strong for standing up to that monster. I mean, she's protected tons of people from him. She even kicked him out to save Storybrooke! But all she gets is people ignoring her or using her. There's absolutely no respect for her, just 'cause she was in love with Rumple. That's ridiculous. By that logic, Robin should get no respect for being in love with the woman who killed his wife! Belle sort of was a doormat for Rumple and we all knew that, but she recently showed that she had a spine and some strength. I actually see that her strength of heart is very unique and delightful. I'm more so attacking the writing for her. If you see the woman always sleep and in helpless situations, you think she's weak, but that's just relative. I mean Belle was asleep, controlled, deceived (how Rumple clearly had the dagger in front of her, but that could just be an editing mistake), overpowered (Rumple and Zelena), and so on. That was just only the past two seasons.

Belle loving Rumple is great, but how many times will you allow yourself be let down? This goes for Belle as it did for Snow. How many times will you think people will change? How many chances will you give? It may work out for both Belle and Snow that they continued to believe in Rumple and Regina respectively. But that sort of makes you look like a pushover with how many chaces you give them.

Well, now they technically changed that so Zelena killed Marian because I think they realized that Regina killing Marian is all sorts of messed up. And yes, Robin gets no respect from me from not knowing the great terro of the Evil Queen when Sherwood Forest is like a day's journey away from her stupidly awesome castle. That is unforgivable.