Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4519633-20141022032431/@comment-25926288-20160417213006

Mr.Carvalho wrote: Eskaver wrote: Mr.Carvalho wrote: Eskaver wrote: I'll put it like this: Regina has the feats and greatest versatility shown on this show, but Regina is really slow at casting magic which is the thing. She's not super slow, but slow enough.

Under the assumption that Regina knows just as much as Zelena, then Zelena tends to win and that's why on show Zelena beat Regina so many times. Regina's far too slow for her and each of the fights show that. Regina's also slower than Ingrid.

Speaking of Ingrid, she has great range and is like a force of nature and I say that that cannot be discounted. She's more versatile than Elsa, but less than any student of Rumple. She was capable of stopping Regina because Regina's slow and Emma was untrained. Ingrid like all things season 4 breaks magic on Once as Elsa and Ingrid can literally destroy castle towns and large areas without significant effort. Ingrid is like a stronger Maleficent; good area of effect and range.

Emma can beat Regina because of speed and raw power, even when she was untrained. Emma in season 4 dodged the fireball (and let it hit the ribbons) and was able to blast Regina down. And remeber that Emma wasn't trying to kill her, unlike Regina. If you want to do a versus Regina versus Emma, feel free to make a thread. The thing with Emma is that her versatility is increasing, thus she easily can catch up to Regina sooner or later for it to not matter. first, even ingrid been powerful, she certainly isnt more powerful than maleficent (if she became a dragon what ingrid does ?, if she use the sleeping spell ,or transmutation ) and ingrid choke emma and regina because they were unprepared (so regina,maleficent>ingrid) , so you dont read my post ?? , "rumple (who you call slow) can paralyze emma easily in the 4x11, and  at the same speed regina could paralyzed arthur", and emma doesnt doge the fireboll, she just but ribbon in front of the fireboll ,and if she were more powerful , why she dint knock off regina  instead of tell elsa to run ?? That's for the battle threads. Catching someone unprepared counts as well. Ingrid showed that she can freeze an entire castle town and maintain a townwide ice wall and Maleficent showed she can make an entire town fall asleep. They are the few AoE magic casters and they'd likely tie or whomever is first.

Rumple froze Emma and I said Rumple (at times) can be faster than Emma. Regina freezing Arthur is no speed feat because he was a good distance away.

Emma has more raw power, but she didn't know the sleeping spell yet, so she hit Regina hard, but she wasn't trying to kill Regina. That's why she said run! She was trying to save the town, not kill Regina. Regina freezing Arthur is no speed feat because you dont want to ,the distance between arthur and regina was a litle less than rumple and emma, and the distance dont count so much in a freezing spell ,she doesnt want to kill regina but she could knock off regina If 517 is showing som enew editing technique, it looks like everyone got faster in their casting of spells.

One of the issues with Once's magic rules is that it's delightfully quirky. Zelena has disintegrated individuals with a wave of her hand and even have a disintegration fireball loking thing. Regina hasn't shown it, yet Zelena should easily been able to kill Regina, being not only faster but showing a powerful spell. It's the same with Regina, who could snap necks, yet she somehow never thought to do that with Snow. And Regina;s the only one shown to directly snap necks (besides Rumple, that one time).