Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4519633-20141022032431/@comment-25536775-20170402014348

Eskaver wrote: I won't try to debate it but Emma and all saviors are clearly weaker than DO's in raw power. DOs make everyone look like small fries. Rumple immolated at least 6+ ogres in seconds. Merlin turned a desert into a lush forest with a tower as well. They are beyond the pale of all other magic users besides the gods and genies in terms of raw power.

I think Saviors can be the cream of the crop of the rest of the mages, but not on DO, level.

I did a nerdy thing and calculated some concussive force based feats. I can tell you that everyone's TK is pretty much the same. If we say the amount of energy it takes to push one person using telekinesis is represented by 1 TK, then here's a handy-dandy chart I did some math with:

Whoever's TK push = 1TK (x number of people) (only small variances as seen with Jafar and Amara)

Fireball = 1 TK (It really does. The only difference is it sometimes has immolation effects.)

Emma's light pulse = 1 to 2 TK (Can't argue with math. It bust through walls and on the typical tosses people far faster and farther than all TK's or fireballs. )

Those are just the basic energy stuff. Basically, it tells you that there's no significant difference in raw power at the basic level. Upon the mirror threshold, Zelena and Emma are above, while Regina is below.

Now if ya guys want, I can probably see how much a given spell caster has done to see how much they roughly know, but that's always variable. Because we don't know how much others truly know.

I'll probably wait until Black Fairy is shown to see where she falls

So, long story short, it's really indeterminable, but I guess that's what the writers want. But in any case.

Deities.

(Genies. Feats akin to the Author)

Dark Ones.

(The Apprentice)

Trained Witches. (Saviors)

Novice Witches. Emma's lack of magical skill has to be factored in why she can't achieve the same feats as DOs. Also, it can be pretty much agreed upon that feats can't be used to assert magic power because, for instance, Regina has far bigger magical feats than Hades.