Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-25926288-20151211170125/@comment-28162607-20170805195010

Farerb wrote:

Aine1989 wrote:

Farerb wrote:

Aine1989 wrote:

Farerb wrote: Wow the double standard in here.... Regina is not a hot guy hence she's evil because of bad things she did while he's perfect when he did terrible things just as she did.... When did I say he was perfect? I did not, so stop putting words in my mouth. But he had a redemption arc. And Emma never worried about how he'd go on another evil rampage if he didn't get what he wanted, like Henry did with Regina. KIllian never placed his redemption arc on Emma and when things didn't go his way, he didn't start enslaving, sexually abusing and plotting to kill and rape innocent people. I have repeatadely provided canon facts proving Regina's lack of change that no-one has addressed.

Excellent use of slut shaming as well. Jesus Christ we get it, you hate women. Why don't you go watch Supernatural, something male-driven? Much more suited to your tastes. No wonder you hate Hook/CS, the very idea of a man treating a woman with respect must be foreign to you.

And now that A&E will continue to romanticise the abuse that is Regal Believer. Probably throw in some romanticising of RumBelle too. You know, actually toxic relationships. Slut shaming?! Hate women?! Wow you're desperate, yeah Hook is such a perfect example of a guy who treat women well like when he hit Belle, tried to kill her, penetrated Aurora's body, sexually assaulted Snow and Emma, what a great example of a guy who know how to treat women... Please give me a break. You said I only like Hook because he is a hot guy. Perfect example of slut shaming; women lose all rational thinking around pretty men. Because it is not like women are capable or And heteronormativity. fyi, I AM NOT IN ANY WAY ATTREACTED TO COLIN (OR MEN IN GENERAL).     If you cannot argue without assuming your opponent is attracted to Colin, you have lost already.

Yes Hook sees women as equals, even as a villain. Their genders did not give them the right to special treatment (and saying that is does is quite sexist in itself). He has no problems working with women, being lead by women, empowering and praising women, admitting a woman is right and he is wrong, following a woman's lead, respecting women.

And he never sexually assaulted either Snow or Emma. In fact I am pretty sure he has never even touched Snow. Actually, you are being irrational, you're ok with whatever horrible things Hook had done, but Regina is horrible no matter what she does. Honestly, both of them were horrible, but you somehow think it's okay to dismiss Regina's good dids while treating Hook as if he is a saint.

I had conversations with Hook fans who realize that Hook was not a good person, heck that's the reason they loved him in the first place, see you can love a character and admit they have flaws, I love Regina and I admit that she was horrible during season 1&2 (yes even horrible towards Henry) and she had a bad arc during season 4, but you get all defensive about this guy, which really makes the conversation with you difficult, because claiming that Hook has always treated women with respect is laughable. Except I am not okay with what he did. Well, I suppose I am because they were framed as they were meant to be-cruel actions of a villain, but the acts themselves were very bad. I do not think Hook is a saint.

I cannot be dismissing Regina's good deeds because she barely has any to dismiss. She has a lot of bad deeds, including when she was meant to be a 'hero'.

Hook has always treated women as equals. His first episode sees him help an abused woman (Milah) leave a toxic situation on her terms and make her the first mate, where she has the crew's respect.

If Hook is a bad example of how to treat women, so is Emma (who has pointed a gun at Tamara and Elsa-women) David (he assaulted Snow, was surprised when a woman robbed him, pointed a gun at Tamara, obejectified Emma and gotten rough with Snow, Ruby, Abigail and Emma), Robin (pointed an arrow at Regina), Zelena (killed Marian). Hurting a woman =/= misogyny.