Board Thread:Wiki-Related Discussion/@comment-2153169-20150201203847/@comment-24769579-20150328075732

Farerb wrote: Teyilia wrote: Farerb wrote: Teyilia wrote: We are still talking about this ?? How long are we voting split or dont split; until sunday ? Adam wont confirm or deny that Fall is episode 4.10 or 4.09 HOWEVER; If that awards show DID NOT air as it did, Smash the Mirror part two would have aired at that timeslot like normal; It's the only extra hour ABC asked for, so they made it 2 hours long on one night, thusly being that extra episode/hour ABC asked for; ABC did not ask for a TITLED episode, just an extra hour

Otherwise; Operation Mongoose wouldn't be split like it already is, it'd be just one two hour episode Moreover, If Adam had been notified about the extra episode in advance (before writing Fall), Smash the Mirror pt 2 would have been 409. But like I said it was structured, aired and split just like Snow Fall/NPLH did and just like Operation Moongoose will. The only difference is the production code which is irrelevent for us.

How do you follow other shows? By production code? Good luck with that. I follow shows by requested HOURS + Titles; in this case, shouldn't this season be 24 HOURS if Operation Mongoose and Smash the Mirror were split ?? Or are they both considered 2 hour long stories instead of one ?

Overall, the votes are still coming in to split or not to split, ABC asked for 22 TITLED episodes, and then requested another HOUR, not another TITLED episode, so what do they do ? They tack it onto episode 4.08 and make two hours; production codes at that point are irrelevant; there's no title given to the extra hour. If there was, then there'd be an extra hour uncounted with Operation Mongoose part 2; That said, Adam wont confirm or deny anything of episode numberings. Smash the Mirror is episode 8 of season 4, its just two hours long instead of one, Adam says exactly that because it was written as a TWO HOUR STORY

Take that how you want I do not want to debate personally on this ABC does not care about titles. ABC ordered 22 episodes, then Extended it to 23. Adding it to the same title is the creators' choice. Alright, alright. We are voting on the matter and sorry Farerb, but I think Teyilia is right. And you cannot speak for the ABC. All the OFFICIAL news that we have gotten was that they ordered 23 hours.