Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-25926288-20151211170125/@comment-26159109-20161017145721

PrettyBlackRosePirate wrote: Farerb wrote: PrettyBlackRosePirate wrote: Eskaver wrote: The problem with the whle Dark One argument is that it doesn't absolve anyone of anything.

Rumple is the DO: he murders, lies, etc and he's a terrible, terrible man., during and after.

Emma was the DO: she lied, lied, lied, and was a selfish person during and after.

Hook was the DO: he said mean things, sentenced people to death, etc, but he was weak and forced into so it wasn't really his fault.

The problem lies in this faulty logic. Even Hook admits he was terrible and weak, so excusing him wholly or partially shows some inherent bias (which we all have). I'm not excusing any of them. I'm not saying it wasn't at all his fault. But Darkness should give them a benefit of doubt, at least. Passing a judgement entirely based on when they were dark ones is a bit harsh. The thing I like about Killian is that he acknowledges his mistakes and feels genuinely remorseful about it.

Yes, he is a flawed person, but aren't they all? Aren't we all? Does that mean he doesn't deserve happiness?

Emma is flawed too. They both have their pasts and negative qualities. They will make mistakes, they may end up hurting each other, but that doesn't mean they don't love each other or shouldn't be together. He cold blooded murdered someone and Emma covered for him and it was never mentioned ever since, nor do the horrible things he said to Emma about her, nor the fact that he tried to kill everyone.

Emma never appologized to Belle about trying to kill her, instead she used her to blackmail Rumple. I'm not going to defend their actions. It was wrong, they know that too and I'm sure they regret it. I don't know why it was never brought up. Probably because they feel horrible enough about that phase without having a trial for every crime they committed.

I don't see how their crimes are relevant to thee issue of their compatibility as a couple, except for the issue that he verbally abused her. In anger people often say things they don't mean, and they are forgiven for it. You can't just hold that one thing over his head for the rest of eternity, especially when he already feels bad about it.

And, well, that's my point: he regrets his actions. If someone genuinely regrets what they did, their punishment is also given by themselves. Bringing up his actions repeatedly and punishing him for it can only serve to push him into a pit of depression, and I'm sure they all care enough to not want that.

When you committ you go through a trial, that's how justice, anyway they can't be redeemed if they don't repent for their crimes, which they didn't.

The problem I see here is that a lot of people claim that Hook regrets his action, but it was never shown on screen. If something isn't shown on screen, it didn't happen. We can't headcanon the story just for it to fit the way we like it to be.