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Utter solitude wrote: Still doesn't make it a retcon. Have you never interacted with someone who made the kind of self disparaging remarks Gold was in that scene?

He did do everything for his son, just afterward. He orchestrated an untold number of events to reunite with him. Yes, afterwards. I wouldn't call it a retcon, but more of slight manipulation of the facts to create a point.

Rumple is a self-loathing individual, so he liekly took such comments to heart. Yes, he wanted to not leave his son fatherless, but he also didn't want to die. Saying the son part doesn''t matter is quite late in the game and that just makes everything worse.

It's like them saying that the DO Rumple we saw was evil, but Rumple's an evil man underneath. But then come out a season later and have the characters say that the DO is corrupting Emma and none of the characters can blame her (unless they are waiting to pull out a twist that it is just her).