Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-3486995-20131124234755/@comment-7720627-20141204032902

But here's the thing, like I've said previously, I don't think Rumple knows that it was Killian that gave Bae to Pan in the first place, since Hook didn't even know who Pan was to Rumple, if Rumple had known that Bae was with his evil grandfather, Rumpler's father, Malcolm then maybe Rumple would've found Bae sooner, but over a century later as Rumple was making more deals and training witches he would chose to make the Dark Curse so he could find Baelfire in LWM, while was looking for TDOs dagger to kill Rumple avenging Milah. But I agree, Milah started this all, since her death, this rivalry between CaptainCrocodile has gone on long enough. Not to mention, I think the only reason Rumple truly never found Baelfire, or had he known his son was with his own father. Some of the blame of how Rumple is today is bc of Pan, not bc Malcolm left him as a boy, like he did with Baelfire. bc Malcolm wanted a better life for himself, bc Rumple was just wasting his time, getting in the way of his happiness, his son was holding him back, which is why he chose to stay in Neverland and traded himself so the shadow and him would be one in his youth bc a child couldn't have a child. But it's funny now I rewatch NastyHabits again recently, Pan said he was lonely in Neverland, which is why he started kidnapping boys and taking them back to Neverland, he told Rumple since he broke their deal, that Rumple would regret breaking that deal with him for Baelfire. So since, Hook gave Baelfire to his grandfather... Pan got what he wanted anyway, he got his grandson.

Also, we still don't know who told Pan to let Baelfire go otherwise, he wouldn't have gotten Henry, who would've born with the Heart as The Truest Believer, we still don't even know Pan's prophecy as Henry wasn't only Rumple's undoing (which I still think is on-going, it hasn't ended yet), but Henry was also Pan's undoing as well, Pan needed Henry's heart so Malcolm could live forever. But I think when Pan died with Rumple, and then a year later, Neal dies by bringing Rumple back through his resurrection. I think, Rumple isn't himself anymore, he wants to be free of TDOs dagger, bc he doesn't want to be controlled by anyone. But if this plans succeeds which I have a feeling, it might happen coming mid-season finale, but if it doesn't, and he's freed and he leaves Storybrooke in 4B. Where would he go, New Jersey? Where Neal was supposibly raised for 10 years, until he got caught stealing those watches. I think, Rumple has found the person who convinced Pan to let Baelfire go, 21 years ago, the same person who gave Baelfire, the name Neal Cassidy, if it's any surprise, I wouldn't mind seeing someone who we think isn't dead from his past, bc Hook maybe the only one who knew Rumple pre-DO days. I think, it's someone where going to meet later on, the same person who probably told August that Neal's realname was Baelfire, then told him to breakup SF, bc that person knew, the price of SFs breakup would be the birth of Henry bc in all fairness, it's all Milah's fault, Baelfire never knew his mother, but he had always blamed Hook bc he was the pirate who broke up his parents. However, CaptainBae scenes were nice, before Neal died. But when you think about it, the moment Henry hits the darkside, this coming episode, since Henry will be acting like that 10y/o kid before he found Emma in Boston. It'll be nice for once, if Henry could show some magic of his own by 4Bs finale.

If Emma is The Savior and the Product of True Love, and baby-Neal is also The Product of Snowing's Truest Love, then how come Henry is The Truest Believer, he believes in fairytales, but that's it! or we know from him, is that he has a special golden-heart. It's time to start putting him in harms way again, he almost died S1, well he did accidently by his adoptive mother, he was kidnapped in S2 finale by two idiots unknownly working for his great-grandfather, almost died again/bodyswitched in 3A by his great-grandfather, in 3B he was almost killed by his wicked adoptive aunt... Now in 4A, just 3 weeks ago, he was just harmed by his birth mother, WHATS NEXT! 4B, we find out Henry, like Regina can weild both light&dark magic. I think, Milah is the total cause of CaptainCrocodile's feud, sonce Neal died, Rumple was given Belle, even RB is rocking now. I blame Milah for all of Rumple's trust issues with women, Cora betrayed him so he got Regina to push MotherHeartless through to WL, then Zelena, well that was a freak accident, Rumple just wanted his dagger back. I swear, if they do something with GoldenQueen behind Belle's back, I'm gonna die! LOL OQ maybe sailing but GQ are better off as ONCE's Villain-ComicDuo! Nothing more! Thanks to Milah, Rumbelle's ship is gonna sink soon!