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Frulna wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: Frulna wrote: Eskaver wrote: It is canon as the writers have spoken. Plus, they showed it on the show, so there's no argument here. You can't ignore facts and hold theories over them. People theorized that Emma is secretly Maleficent's daughter and no matter how much they like it, it frankly isn't true.

Victorian England was frozen during the curse and that's that. Alice was 18sh before the curse as she met Cora and Jefferson and then she went back when they weren't there (aka the Dark Curse pulled Jefferson away and Cora went to SB as we see that when they went to SB).

Victorian England has magic as the rabbit made a portal. As far as we have learned and we can use common sense, Bae wished to go to a Land without Magic. By the way the show has traversed, there is only one world without magic.

All worlds with magic were frozen and the only one that didn't was LWM as we saw time go by and Emma grow up. We know FTL was frozen, we know Wonderland was frozen, we know that VE was frozen.....I spy a connection. Neverland has magic powerful nough to prevent people from aging and it was not frozen, so no all worlds with magic were not frozen and no our land without magic was not the only world that was left unfrozen How do you know Neverland was not frozen during the 28 years of the curse? And even for arguements sake, if we say it was not frozen, Neverland esencially has no time at all, thus why nobody ever ages, so the reason for it not being frozen would be that something with no time cannot be frozen in time. We know Neverland was not frozen because Pan was sending information to the company that was supposedly trying to destroy all magic during the curse,  Pan created the fake company and fake mission to recruit people to help him get Henry all while the curse was still there. Neverland does have time, that is how people are able to move and breathe, how the poison was able to sprad through David's body, how there is abe to be enough crops and food to be ablt to feed the inhabitants of Neverland. Neverland not having time is one of the stupidest theories I have heard. Everything has time, Neverland just has magic that prevents people from aging, magic that Pan was going to bring to Storybrooke in his version of the curse. Also if Neverland didn't have time then when people left and came back it would still be the same day in Neverland but that is not the case. Hook says that the forests are alot more overgrown than last time he was in Neverland indicating that aot of time has passed since his last visit. You can still do things in Neverland, but it is a timeless world. Also, food doesn't grow there, that is why Pan made a deal with Hook to get food from the EF periodically, something that is seen in an episode. As far as things changing, that is because Pan got more sinister. Neverland is a dream world that reflects the belief of the people living there. Finally, as Esk said above, Greg and Tamara were being told what to do by John and Michael, not Pan. John and Michael were in LWM and knew they were looking for Henry from the time Baelfire got to the island, so Pan could have been frozen for 28 years, and John and Michael would still know what to do.