Board Thread:Rant and Rave/@comment-31147694-20171111190029/@comment-25926288-20171112000659

123Raura wrote: Negative: - Rumple was a better teacher than Regina ever was for Ivy. Though his intentions were evil, though justified for good in the end, he still taught Regina the most important lesson of magic: all magic comes with a price. Regina, however, does not make that lesson clear in this episode.

'''Regina does, but Regina was overcompensating as she felt Henry was leaving her. Rumple taught her slowly, while Regina was like a doting mother, pretty much spoiling Drizella in that short time.'''

- How is Ivy making her mother suffer by casting a curse to do evil? Isn't that what Vick would expect from her child? Doing evil to everyone? If she wants to make her mother suffer, why didn't she join Regina to do good things, the complete opposite of everything Vick stands for? Why not kill Vick with kindness?

Think of it like "Victoria doesn't know it yet, but shs's failing and wondering why and she's trying hard for something that she think is going to worl. Ex. She's trying hard to crush belief, but Ivy is making it hard for her. Once Victoria finally gets what she wants, Ivy is probably going to have Victoira fail. Wouldn't it be soul-crushing for her mother to constantly fail so much that when she wins, she fails to wake up Anastasia. Then, Ivy could leave her doing it over and over and she's essentially miserable. 

'''It's like Sisyphus. He'd roll a boulder up a hill, only for it roll down, but he never stopped trying as it was what he just ahd to do.'''

Despite Ivy's evil intentions, she reminds me so much of Regina, so she's definitely my nomination for "villain most likely to reform."

- That trailer for next week, it makes me mad at the part when Regina says "Rumplestiltskin." I mean, decide writers: is Rumple awake or not?

No spoilers.