Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-1916997-20151012011036/@comment-1894786-20151012151559

Eskaver wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: People have to realize... Zelena raped Robin. Yes, Regina also raped Graham, so she's still very much a hypocrite. But the issue here is Regina never got pregnant by raping Graham and tried to escape with the baby, whereas Zelena did so with Robin.

Yes, Zelena should have a say in what happens with her child. But only if that child was conceived under the right circumstances. She gave up her consent in her child's future when she took away Robin's consent to conceive it with her, remember he thought she was Marian.

That being said, I do sympathize with Zelena. All she wants is someone who loves her unconditionally, no matter what. If we had seen that motivation in Season 3, I think Zelena would've been so much more liked as a character.

Instead of trying to break the "You can't change the past" law to live life with Cora as a princess and eventual queen, she should've tried to break the "You can't bring back the dead" law to bring back her adoptive mother, who was the only one who showed genuine love to her. I think that was her motivation in season 3, but this makes her more so sympathetic because it wasn't covered in irrationality.

Yeah, it does. Season 3 was "I want everything Regina ever got so Rumple and Cora will love me." Season 4 was "I'm going to steal Robin away just so Regina doesn't have him." Season 5 is "I want to live far away from all of this and be free with my child."

Zelena is finally being shown in a sympathetic light, and I think it's mostly Bex's amazing acting that is actually making people side with her in light of her crimes.

We as a fanbase seem to take each episode at face value. Like for example, people were only reacting to that scene in the context of the episode. People need to take all sources into account.

We have 4 seasons, 1 spin-off, 2 canon comics, 1 canon novel, and 2 canon movies (Brave and Frozen). And when dissecting any scene with any given character, we have to take all of that into account.

Yes, Regina is kinda being hypocritical when she was in the exact same boat with Henry in seasons 1 and 2, and even raped Graham, but Zelena has also done horrific things. And Regina has finally started owning up to the stuff she's done (it started with Save Henry, really showed itself in Snow Drifts, and then shined through in all of 4B), so while it's hypocritical of her to be so harsh with Zelena, it's also incredibly honest. No one would know Zelena's position better than Regina, 'cause she was there herself not too long ago. That's why Regina knows the only way to get through to Zelena is to be as firm as can be.

My most major thought, however... Belle, Zelena and Regina in this episode are wearing the dresses they're wearing when they al went back to Storybrooke. Either the rest of the arc's flashbacks are all on that same day, or... Camelot has no showers, laundry or spare clothing...