Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-25926288-20151211170125/@comment-25758988-20160404155759

What a complicated discussion we have here!

Who the most selfish and manipulative person out of Emma and Hook and who is the greater cause of distress in their relationship should not really matter. At the end of the day they both seem to love each other despite all their problems and I guess it is saying that people will do anything for the person they love even if it makes no no sense to any other person. Love is blind, deaf and dumb.

As far as the relationship being damaging to Henry, mmmmm. Interesting point, I suppose looking at it objectivly without knowing to much about their backstory or an outside perspective I guess it looks COMPLICATED, but damaging? I am not sure.

Ok lets look at Emma's trip to Underworld and lets see why the people came with her, Henry included. First of all we need to understand why Emma would risk everything and I mean everything (as Gold pointed out its a very dangerous place) for Hook. Many many reason's she is in love (as I mentioned above love is blind, deaf and dumb), she is guilty (She blames herself ((rightiously!) for him becoming a dark one), she is weak - at least in love (she has not had the best luck when it comes to love, everyone she has loved ends up betraying her, lying to her or just being a flying monkey. Even her family did not show any love for her for obvious reasons and Neal loved Emma but in the end betrayed her again. She knows she loves Hook and that Hook loves her so she will do anything to protect it) and she also knews Rumples secrete and that Hooks death meant nothing. So I say she has every reason to make that journey.

But why would she allow her family, Regina and Robin to follow? Well I guess the main reason is she is scared. She believes she will be stronger if she has back up there. Ok so why take her son? Henry is a teenager and Henry wants to be a hero, we have seen that actually he has plenty of bravery considering what we whitnessed in the alternate reality. I would not want to take my son down to the underworld but I guess Emma thought he would be safer with her and Regina, (although why Neal and Baby Hood was left I am not sure, maybe practicallity) Plus I guess Henry really seems to like Hook, and if he knew his mothers potential for love was about to be taken I guess he would fight and move heaven and hell (yes I intended the pun) to go with them. I should also mention that Emma prob only thought they would be in the underworld for a day at the most, she actually even tried to get her family to leave straight away because of the danger but they refused to go.

Henry may be the biggest love Emma as but it should never be the only love she should get. Hook may be a dangerous pirate and may even have done things while Henry as known him that are actually dispicable such as shooting Belle and giving into the darkness when he became the Dark One. Now people blame Hook for wanting to kill Emma's family including Henry despite him being influenced by the darkness. But Hook told her he would be influenced by the darkness so his behaviour is a massive result of him being a barstool (Sorry don't want to swear) yes Emma made him a dark one but she believed she had no choice. But Henry seems to have accepted Hooks past and Hooks behaviour as the Dark One because he loves his mom. He knows that having just him in her life is not good for her, its the same feeling he has with Regina and Robin he knows that there should be room in their lives for both types of love.

I know that people will argue that Emma would not have behaved this way in earlier seasons and that Henry was more valuable then any man, which is true. But things have changed now, people have changed and people have grown up both metaphorically and literally, Even in NYC Henry was determined to have Emma fall in love with someone and she was open to it, well not 100% but close. It may seem damaging to Henry when Hook came back and tried to get inbetween Emma and Walsh (If we imagine Walsh was not a flying monkey) because from Henry's perpective Hook was breaking up a good relationship (but as it happens Walsh was a flying monkey and Henry was cursed) But I think Emma needs this relationship with Hook as much as Hook needs it too. Henry needs to see his mom in love and as Hook has not actually done anything harmful to Henry, because if he did then I would imagine Emma would say f**k you Hook, I say let them be.

To me as well the more dangerous relationship for Henry is his relationship with Gold. and his more complcated relationship with Robin and Baby Hood. I mean Zelena is his step great great aunt and his adopted aunt and Robin is his adopted mother's and step great gandmother's true love which to me means they are pretty much married and baby hook will be like his adopted step sister and his step step aunt. Wow yeah I am confused already. Then theres Belle and baby Belle (Not the cheese). :)