Board Thread:Spoilers!/@comment-2153169-20180206195120/@comment-25926288-20180331213719

Leroiblanc wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: I have really high hopes for the FBs in this episode. Nymphs are sort of an underused mythical creature, and it was a perfect idea to incorporate them into Gothel's past. I really hope the writers blow us away with what happened to make Gothel become who she did. Me too, plus A & E are writing it and personally, I found the quality of Secret Garden to be much better than the season six A & E episodes, along with "Hyperion Heights". I just hope all of her plans aren't crammed in like Fiona's in "The Black Fairy". Adam and Eddy write good premieres, finales, and things with big events and villain backstories. I think they just hit a rough patch with Swan Song and Street Rats really hard.

Fiona, brilliantly played, was actually really strong but they made illogical leaps and her plan was vague, flowery language and she was one-note for several episodes because “It’s not the finale.” Fiona wasn’t a villain that felt like she’d waste time given that she was like the most powerful person around.

I think Gothel is already undergoing the “Shift” that the writers do and most cases, the shift is not a good one. Prime example of a bad shift was 4B Rumple. He was cartoon villain number 1 who had episodic plans and at the end randomly got lucky. Hades did a shift, but I think it was a good shift because the first half of “leave!” made him seem ineffectual and was going nowhere fast as each episode was “saving someone”.

We never knew Gothel’s plan, but mid season, it was “Let’s group up and meet for tea.” Now, Gothel appears to not care about regrouping the Coven. I did theorize that Gothel was just using them as pawns to sacrifice and Ana was sacrifice material because an innocent young girl always is. However, it looked like she cared somewhat about them and blah, blah, “Me want Guardian Magic!” The shift is good as it connects Rumple, Samdi, and Eloise, but they took Eloise off task.

To be fair, there are a number of deleted scenes and if we get to see someone the eventual DVD someof them might make a difference. (In 15, Ana was randomly free and romaing Seattle while none of us had any indication as there was a deleted scene in 14.)