Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5106672-20141117061053/@comment-25602483-20141118225500

GothicNarcissus wrote: TheSamTrickster wrote: GothicNarcissus wrote: I also think the Sorcerer really can achieve such magic, and this is why Rumple was trying to get his hat as a plan B to go to Bae. And of course, no way would the Sorcerer use his door to help the Dark One. It might even be that the Door could preserve the power of those who cross it even in the Land Without Magic, which would explain why Ingrid could perform the memory spell on Emma without bringing anything over from Arendelle (she certainly travelled light, didn't she?).'''As for Oz, my theory is that it is a somewhat easier land to reach. Portals to (and possibly from) Oz can form spontaneously at random, such as the ones that brought Zelena and then Dorothy there via a tornado (and also Walsh, btw). It is part of its magic, kinda like the physics-defeating feats in Wonderland.''' You can get there through conventional means (the Hat), but if you're lucky enough, you can get a free ride. So Zelena, who had had all the plan to get rid of Dorothy ready, could have known of some spontaneous portal from Oz to the Enchanted Forest and teleported Glinda onto it, leaving the tornado or whatever that was to do the rest for her. And then seal her away to some far off corner of Fairy Tale Land with a cloaked door once she went back to the Enchanted Forest herself.

And this might be it as for abnormal world-travelling. We still have two issues with time travel. 1. We know that Ingrid came to storybrooke, she could have erased emman's memories then and there.

2. If it that were easy, we know rumple is more powerful than Zelena, yet rumple asked jefferson to find the slippers for him. If you watch the episode of victor frankenstein, there was a conversation about it.

3 We also know that Zelena is already branded by rumple as the most powerful sorceres he ever met, and so when Glinda gave her the pendant, which harness, protect and grow her power and he was told by glinda that she could accomplish untold miracles, so that growth might have given her magic strong enough to perform such feat, teleportation via magic. I mentioned this theory in earlier comments. '''1. There was no magic in Storybrooke in Season One, so the point still remains. And she can't have stolen anything from Regina's valut to cast the spell, either, 'cause otherwise she wouldn't have flought under the radar for all that time without her noticing.'''

2. By "easy", I don't mean that one can just open any door and walk there, I mean that, by what the show implied, portals from and to Oz can form on their own. Rumple had Jefferson try to get the slippers instead of going there himself because he probably had no patience to wait for a random tornado-portal to appear.

3. Good point. The fact that Rumple didn't just have her cast such a spell on himself is that maybe, like the White Rabbit's hole, it would only work between magical lands. Which would be why Zelena gave the Silver Slippers to Dorothy. Who said Emma met Ingrid in story brook in season 1. Emma said She met her the first time she came to storybrook and we know that only time she left storybrooke, was after reegina recasted the curse, so technically season 2 was still her first time in storybrooke, and by season 2 there is already magic. and if she indeed met Ingrid in season 2, she could erase Emma's memories via troll's magic.