Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4554525-20190706004133/@comment-39129166-20190720203100

DeviousPeep wrote: It got to a point where the show was redeeming too many villains. Regina, Rumple, Hook, Zelena, Cora, Ingrid, Maleficent, Ursula, Serum!Queen, Victoria, and Ivy all got redemption arcs or were at least forgiven despite the terrible things (some worse than others) that they did. Rumple and Zelena were two of my favorite characters, but I can admit that the writers might've jumped the shark on giving them happy endings. I'm grateful for the few villains (Pan and especially Cruella) that they just let be evil up to the very end. Except technically, most of those that got so called redemption arcs have not fully redeemed or changed fully, like I pointed out above, before I erased it.

1. Maleficent is still left with a feud with Aurora/Phillip, 2. Cora only redeemed herself to her daughters, not to the real heroes like Snow. 3. Hook Prime is still a liar since s7 and kept reverting more than once, and is left with an unfinished story with the murder of Charming's (the real hero) Father (the other real and better man than his killer is). Only Nook was the one who seem to have changed and evolved better. 4. Zelena has never regretted or aplogized for murdering Bae, and is stil left hatred and jealousy with Dorothy (two unfinished stories). 5. Despite her ending with Wish Robin, Serum Queen was left still ruthless and a liar by never telling anyone about this safety lock on the twisted sleeping curse. And Regina has never regretted or told the truth of Graham's murder or what she did to Lily (which is leaving Maleficent without knowing that she is responsible for cutting her daughter's hand, some friend), nor was she seen giving back the hearts of victoms she still has in her cubbard. It's like some people in the website pointed out, those bad false redemption arcs (at least some people might say) might not last long if the show returns. But never mind the "show might return" sentence, my point is I agree of what Tommy just said above, the so called redeemed villains are not fully innocent nor fully changed. Nothing personal.