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Toma Cre wrote: AuntieJoans wrote: Toma Cre wrote: Victorian England could be similar to Whale's homeland - The Land without Colour. Inhabitants there don't believe in magic but they do have some sort of it as evidenced by Jefferson's hat being able to create a portal to it.

Also of interest is whether the White Rabbit can travel to lands without magic. When he first visited Storybrooke, was it before or after Rumple brought magic back? But do we ever see the hat opens a portal to Victorian England? Do we ever see any local magic in Victorian England? No. Then what is this based on? What is what based on? I simply stated that just because Victorian England has no concept of magic does not necessary mean that it has no magic. Because we do have a prior example of a land that seems to be without magic (and looks similar to our world in the past) but actually does have some sort of it e.g. LWC. Not saying that Victorian England definitely does have magic, just that you can't know either way for now.

On the other hand, since we know the White Rabbit can in fact travel to Victorian England, it seems to be evidence that Victorian England does have magic. Else, wouldn't Rumple have sought out the White Rabbit (or his forebears) to reach LWM? Well, why can't it's the White Rabbit's own power to make portals and travel through lands? He is a magical creature, his power comes with his own, and I don't think they've ever stated that he can only travel to magical lands. When Regina cast the Dark Curse, everyone was sent to our world, but our world didn't have magic at that time either. It means if people can use magic to travel to a non-magical world, it's not really impossible for the White Rabbit to dig a hole and go to non-magical worlds. Also, Rumple may not aware of the White Rabbit and his power. There're endless creatures with different powers, it's not necessary for Rumple to know every single of them. I just don't think we can judge whether Victorian England is magical, only by the fact that White Rabbit is able to go there, as we don't know much about his power.

The topic had gone very far. What I believe is Victorian England had never been frozen in time for 28 years, neither Wonderland did. I just curious is there other places confirm the Dark Curse can reach to all magical lands?