Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20170429134340/@comment-25536775-20170720062835

KnocknickKnock wrote: VulonNight wrote: Can I just say, the whole S3 thing about "the purveyor of the strongest light magic" doesn't mean Regina is on par with Emma. The strongest light magic is True Love. So "purveyor of the strongest light magic" means someone who can use the power of True Love, aka True Love's Kiss. Regina was able to TLK Henry, meaning she can use True Love's power. Her training and skill as a Dark sorceress and her ability to use magic in the first place means she was able to channel that magic and use it to directly attack Zelena. Thus, Regina is a magic user who can use True Love- but we have only ever seen her use weaponized pure light magic once. For the most part she uses Dark magic or some combination of Light and Dark magic. My personal theory there is Regina is still using Dark magic, but the True Love she also has keeps it from darkening her soul more than it already has been. I don't think un-darkening is possible really- we've learned multiple times that you can't destroy darkness and trying has a terrible price and is never worth it. Anyways, my point is that Regina using True Love doesn't mean she's equal to Emma power-wise. As I've said, I put Regina at the very bottom of my pure sorcerers list and Emma all the way at the top, but noted that their combat potential is equalish because Emma hasn't studied like at all and Regina has tons of tools and tricks at her disposal plus years of heavy research. So just because Regina was able to weaponize TLK doesn't mean she has as much power as Emma. Emma is the Savior, she's basically True Love incarnate. She has direct access to not only the insane power of her parents' true love, but to her own true love for Hook and Henry. The Savior is destiny-bound to be the greatest hero, the champion of the light, love and hope given human form. If Emma bothered to study half as much as Regina has she would be freakin invincible.

On one hand we have the ex-Evil Queen who took a long time to learn magic and was only the great and terrible Evil Queen in the first place because she was basically terrorizing magicless peasants, who was able to overcome her darkness and use a True Love pure light magic spell once ever. On the other hand we have the freakin Savior, love and hope incarnate, destined to become the greatest hero and the champion of light, with direct access to a ton of light magic which has been proven repeatedly to be stronger than Dark magic. Yeah, I think I proved my point. Emma fell to Regina, Zeleena, Cora, Ingrid, Rumple, Hades, Pan. I wouldn't say her light magic has prevailed over dark magic. The person she has taken out is Cruella. It was Rumple who took out Pan, Regina who took out Zeleena, Snow who took out Cora, Ingrid who took out Ingrid, Ursula took out Ursula, Zeleena who took out Hades, Hook who took out Dark one and Rumple who took out Black. It was Henry who took out the Author.

Emma gets more props than she deserve. Her light magic wasn't powerful enough to take out Elsa snow monster something Regina fire ball did. Her light magic wasn't powerful enough to take down Zeleena barrier(This is no amped Zeleena), Her magic wasn't powerful enough to undo the Evil Queens Sleeping spell on Snow and Charming. Cora broke through Emma barrier spell alone. Regina with a snap undid her Stone spell on Sneezy.

The problem with Emma is people are using her potential versus her actual current feats and power. Also If Regina can control True love magic than she is clearly at the top of the list as that is the most powerful form of magic regardless who controls it. True love magic is equalized around the board.

Also Emma needed help in breaking Hades barrier spell, taking on Hyde in which her magic was ineffective, her magic failed to take down Black Spider, she needed help taking on the flying monster even then though her magic was ineffective.

Emma best feats are as followed:

-Stopping Cora from ripping her heart out.

-Looking across realms.

-Shoe locating spell on Cinderella.

-Healing 

-Pushing Ingid Snow monster away with a light blast.

-Stopping Black from destroying her heart.

-Her light blast in the police station when mad.

Am I missing something?

All the bold Regina has done similar stuff.

-Regina stopped Pan from getting Henry's heart with a simply hand wave over his chest.

-Done tons of locating spells. She did on locator spell on Charmings car.

-She also has healing powers. She healed Henry, herself and a horse. Among others.

-She pushed Ingrid Ice monster away with a fire ball to the shield.

-Regina created an earthquake with a wave of her hands.

As far as looking across realms Zeleena can also do that.

Thus I don't see why Current Emma is placed above them. The are more knowledgable, More skilled, and have the same powers she do at the same level. You're right, they're more knowledgeable and more skilled, but that's not what this post is about. This post is about raw power, which is why comparing feats is pointless. Regina's fireball killed the snow monster because she's better at magic than Emma. Zelena's barrier spell couldn't be broken because she's better at magic than Emma.

Emma's got more raw power than Regina, and has a slight edge over Zelena (Also, stop spelling Zelena with to Es). And Regina's magic isn't True Love magic, it's just generalized light magic. Insofar, Emma's the only character in the show who canonically wields True Love magic, as a consequence of being PoTL.