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The top villains

1. The darkness that was possessing Rumple is the most evil thing I think...I mean it's darkness itself. What worse than that? It doesn't love, it doesn't care about anyone. It's just looking for someone to posses to make evil deeds.

2. Jafar - Cruel till the very end. He transformed Amara into the staff (despite the fact they were in "love") then kills her to maintain his power. Kills the red queen, revives her and then kisses with her in front of Will (that was just wow 100+ villainess). Killed his father the same way the sultan tried to kill him, but first he makes him love him. Worst of all he doesn't feel remorse for any of this things. He betrayed the jabberwocky and killed countless people in the series (villagers, guards, the Grendel etc.)

3. Evil queen - Regina may have redeemed herself, but she was very, very evil. She betrayed tinker bell, killed his own father to enact the curse, killed entire villages just because she was angry at Snow white, took the huntsman heart and force him to do her will, tried to convince Henry that fairytales weren't real, framed snow white, tried to kill Cora (her own mother), left hook to die with Maleficent zombie, ruined poor Greg's childhood by taking his father, betrayed Sidney glass like twice and manipulated him to kill the king, locked Bell in a tower, took ariel's voice, left the mad hatter in wonderland (despite the fact that he had a daughter), didn't help Hansel and Gretel, trapped Maleficent for 30 years....yeah the list pretty much goes on. She did a lot of wrong stuff, no other villain has a list as long as this one.

4- Peter pan - It didn't seem like he did a lot of evil things, but...he did a few that were quite supreme. He kidnapped Henry, lied to him and convinced him of giving his heart to him (his own grandson). He abandoned Rumple and played mind games with him while he was in Neverland (fake bell, the puppet toy etc.), he killed Felix (his loyal companion) and we know that Pan loved Felix to some extent because to be able to cast the dark curse you must crush the heart of the thing you love most...so he must have loved him and he killed him with no remorse either. He swapped body's with Henry, he manipulated the Darlings and also Greg and Tamara (not to mention he killed them the moment they arrived at Neverland)

5- Cora was evil too, but she didn't have a heart. So...without the real ability to love I don't think she was redeemable and she was not going to be able to make the best choices (although Will Scarlet didn't had a heart for sometime, but he chose to do good...so that may not be an excuse to be evil). But taking the heart part out I think Cora could be in the list of big bads and for obvious reasons, I'm not making a list for her.

- I don't include Rumple in this list because he was cursed with the dark one's curse. He did awful things, but the darkness inside him has a lot to do with it. He was never going to be able to be "good" or a "hero" if he wasn't free from the darkness. Hey may be able to do good things from time to time, but in the end darkness was going to win. Now that he is free from it we will see his attitude, if he changes then good, but if he keeps going after power then that would make him one of the worst villains and it would enter this list for sure.

-Cruella was just psychopath, so basically she didn't even have the ability to make a good judgment. I mean, she thought killing was fun.

- The Snow Queen, Red Queen, Zelena, King George, Maleficent and others have done terrible things, but I don't think that they can make to this list yet. They were evil or wicked or twisted, but so far I don't think they can win an evil contest against the villains mentioned above. Maybe the Snow queen, but still...