Board Thread:Rant and Rave/@comment-24593235-20180208195814/@comment-24593235-20180209021050

CoolDudeAl wrote: There are some valid points here, the one I'm most annoyed about (and they could have fixed this in a later season, but never did) is that we never got to see what happened between Mal and Briar Rose. There was a ton of setup for it, all the way back from 102, and it never went anywhere. As for the points regarding Snow and Charming and the baby-napping, and Ursula being less than evil, I think this is something many people don't understand about the arc. The whole point of the arc was to explore what makes someone a hero and what makes someone a villain. By showing that Snow and Charming, classic fairy tale heroes, have done something very bad in their past, and on the other hand, Ursula, a fersome villain, really hasn't done anything that bad, they are showing how it is not that easy to just label people as a "hero" or a "villain" and call it a day. People aren't that simple, they all exist somewhere in between "good" and "bad". So you guys can complain all you want about that, but I think it was a very interesting and important point for the show to make. Definitely agree with the Briar Rose stuff. I remember thinking that's what 4x20 was gonna be about, but nope.

I see what you're saying about them trying to prove everyone exists between "good" and "bad", but in Snow and Charming's case I think it was far too over the top. They were selfish, reckless, and just plain dumb to not realize what they were doing was sacrificing an innocent child; and we already got the lesson with Snow not being entirely "good" back in Season 2 when she sacrificed Cora. Granted, it didn't get nearly the amount of focus it deserved, but it was still there. I'm pretty sure they even made the point of later saying that kidnapping Maleficent's child was what gave Snow's heart a dark spot, not killing Cora. That right there is a retcon. I just have trouble stomaching how heinous what Snow and Charming did was, and I don't think it was a point to be made for them that wasn't already made before. As for Ursula, that was never one of my complaints. I thought they did a good job with her episode.