Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20160418005754/@comment-26580042-20160418223022

Hmcooper4 wrote: Actually, why not make new Winged Monkeys? although maybe some of the ones she made previously mated and had baby monkeys that grew up. Who knows.

Now as for thoughts on the episode. it was kinda meh for me. Definitly the weakest episode of this arc (so far).

Things I liked:

1. I've been a Ruby fan since early in season 1, so seeing her back was nice.

2. Hook and David's conversation. That was a small moment of character growth for them.

3. Similarly, Regina and Zelena's conversation, particularly with Zelena giving up the slippers without a fight. And Regina not being totally judgemental about her sister's actions. There is hope for that relationship yet.

4. Snow getting to go home. (I know taht much of that was due to the lack of availability that Ginny had during the filming of the next episodes due to her involvment with Zootopia, but it was still nice)

Things I did not like:

1. Wolfie and Kansas - who came up with these nicknames. Wolfie I kinda get, but Kansas?!

2. LGBT relationship - Ok, I am not homophobic, but I do feel that LGBT lifestyle choices are morally wrong. But, setting aside my personal dislike of the relationship, I felt that the relationship was extremely rushed and out of left field. They had known each other all of a day, and they are Twu Luv? Seriously? Snowing took quite some time before they reached TL, Same with Rumbelle (and that one may just still be in the works). Same with CS (they met on the Beanstalk in Season 2, but did not really reach anything that I would consider TL status until the end of Season 3). and OQ? Not sure what to make of that one any more. Regardless, there was absolutely 0 buildup for the relationship, and I just did not get invested in the relationship.

3. Belle and the sleeping curse - How in the world is putting yourself under a sleeping curse a good idea? Again, this was probably something that was done to explain Belle's absence while she was out having their daughter Vera, but there were probably better storytelling devices that could have been used.

4. Plot movement - This episode did absolutly nothing towards defeating hades and getting ALL of the heroes out of the UW. Unless they are setting up for an OZ spinoff, this episode was complete and total filler.

And the WTF moments-

1. Belle and Zelena - I liked the interaction (and I understand that Emilie and Bex are friends from their days on Lost), but what in the world makes it a good idea to refuse to talk to your Dark One husband (who at least has a vested interest in resolving the issue at hand), and instead go to talk to someone just as morally compromised, and has 0 interest in your situation? (My questions are point... *cast silence spell*)

2. Where is Robin? nuff said

3. Hades ripping out the phones now? If he doesn't want hope, he should have ripped them out long ago, or better still never put them in. That made 0 sense.

4. Scratching the names on the headstone - can you say RETCON? and seriously, the chicken scratch of David's name would work to replace the ornately carved name? I might have bought that line more had David's name been nicely carved, rather than chicken scratched.

5. Henry and his writing. Nice that they showed him writing conciously, rather than in his sleep. but what he's doing now just seems to be a plot device to show what is happening outside of the UW, and not really moving the plot forward.

6. Belle and TLK: Seriously, I think that, before the end of the season (probably somewhere in the finale), Rumple will ultimately be the one that renders TLK on Belle, which will open the way for her to be back with the rest when Season 6 starts.

I may have other comments once I get the chance to rewatch later. I agree with everything you just said. This season is nothing but writing loopholes tbh.