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Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Teyilia wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Teyilia wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Eruciform wrote: What did Ariel say to Hook about some queen doing something to Blackbeard? What did she say exactly?

And I have a feeling things may not end up well for Ursula after crossing the others. And I want to know more about the Dragon. Ariel told Hook about how Blackbeard shook down Arendelle Royals (Anna and Kristoff in Fall), then Elsa shrunk his ship and the surrounding water (in which Ariel was swimming) as punishment, trapping it in the bottle.

This part is speculation; Apparently, since the ship was empty, Elsa probably imprisoned Blackbeard and crew in Arendelle or left him stranded on land. Ariel probably teamed up with her, as she knew enough about Elsa to tell Hook what happened, and much like Ingrid, Elsa expanded her knowledge of magic to beyond just cryokinesis.

But why was Ariel away from Eric, is my question. And will we ever see Ursula the Deity ever again? The YNB version? Personally I am thinkiing that Elsa either had the Trolls do it, or use the Wishing Star, My personal prefernce is the Wishing Star makes the most sense to do such magic as Elsa has the heart pure enough to use it without paying a price, since the only price the Wishing Star needs is a pure heart, Elsa has just that. Best case scenario she marooned Blackbeard and his crew or imprisoned them; but until we know FOR SURE of how she got the ship into that bottle, I'm keeping with my Using the Wishing Star or Troll Magic to do it

And no, Disney company stated that Elsa knows only Ice Magic But Once Elsa isn't the same as Disney Elsa. Disney Elsa apparently changes out of that god-awful ice dress into a flowery one in Frozen Fever, and presumably into some more in the sequel, both of which I'm assuming happen before Once's story apparently does.

So who's to say she didn't learn some cool magic tricks from Ingrid's library? Elsa does still have the Wishing Star, which I am sticking to that theory until shown otherwise on the show as the season finishes of where the Wishing Star currently is. If there is no more mention of the Wishing Star, nor mention of how Elsa trapped the ship, be it a spell from her aunts books, or Troll Magic, or the Wishing Star, then we can all just agree to disagree on the topic. Elsa only knows Ice Magic, and her heart is too pure to kill anyone; Ingrid knew more because she had more time to learn. I am glad for the mention though, I'm happy for that much Considering Anna is wearing a completely different necklace with her wedding dress, and the fact that it's not seen again after Elsa uses it, I'm assuming the Wishing Star is a one-time use item which was probably destroyed.

But like you said, agree to disagree. Emma held it briefly in Fall after Elsa wished Anna to safety so it wasn't destroyd; when Elsa returned to Arendelle she had it still is my guessing due to the cloth pouch on Elsas... belt thing... on her dress, and yes Anna had a differnet necklace on for her wedding, her mothers actual necklace. I dont think the wishing star was a one time use item though. but yeah, agree to disagree is good :)