Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24386552-20161217174626/@comment-24386552-20161219004146

Oh my god, I remember the episode leading into Cora's episode. That one was surprisingly good. To be honest, I was much more excited for The Miller's Daughter but the setup was astounding.

I also seriously miss S1-3 Rumple because he was absolutely everything. Robert Carlyle really brings him to life.

Then in S4, they push him and everyone else aside for Frozen and make him completely unsympathetic with the exception of Zelena rubbing Neal's death in his face. Also a bit when he breaks down after being banished by Belle. Afterwards it just goes downhill from there. He ends up being a clean slate, the man Belle wanted him to be. She rejects him, he turns back to the power. She then sleeps with him in Swan Song (derailing her already crappy characterization) and he ends up becoming the Dark One again.

Also I just liked how they tried to make him oh so terrible and Hook to be perfect, when Hook isn't. Everyone else offers something amazing, but there is something off with him. It might be the actor too, but I seriously think the writers believe he's perfect, when there is so much that could be done with him. If he wasn't glorified and an amazing side character, he'd be even more popular. But the moment they started shoving him and his story down our throats, along with CaptainSwan... It got so so annoying.

Yes Regina and Rumple have done way worse things, but they ten times more interesting than he will ever be. Hell even Nimue was more interesting and we all know she was gonna be gone by the end of the arc. That actress could sell that role mmm...

Back to the point, when the show really does capture character, plot, setting, and acting... the show is truly a masterpiece. Then there's these moments that make us cringe hard.

I too couldn't take that battle seriously. Jasmine was alright though, but that final battle was just no.