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Farerb wrote: Eskaver wrote: But I like how much of season 2 people dislike is like 20% of it.

Besides the CGI, why do people dislike Wonderland so much (in relative to other seasons)? Wonderland has a complete story that answers the questions that it presents, does a good thing with the relationships and each person has some sort of realistic issue. I mean I love Regina, but she was mad at a 10 year old and that is pretty fantastic (in terms of being unreal).

The villain had a sad backstory but still came off as an unrepentant jerk. We've got a redeemed villain too. Self-righteous hero that gets knocked down a peg (Alice), a hero that has a shady past (Cyrus), the anti-hero best friend (Will), and even the Third Wheel (Liz). And even as a liller character, Liz gets much more sympathy than any of the dwarves.We have magical macguffins and fantabulous creatures. We have mix and match legends, like Grendel, Wonderland, and Agrabah.

Wonderland was pretty much what Once is suppose to be, just more condensed and in the death slot for ratings. They even had serious moments that are nearly as good as Once's and better comedic moments too. On top of that, they actually had more concise Worldbuilding too. (Looking at you, Oz and it's one palace.)

Just playing an advocate....I can't change anyone's mind, of course. (Psst, please change your minds.) I agree with you about Wonderland. One of the reasons that it was great is that this is the only time that they used the three-act structure.

Act one: the set-up - ep 1-4.

Act two: the confrontation - ep 5-8.

Act 3: the resolution - ep 9-13.

It was focused. The backstories were about the five main character only, they didn't get sidetracked with secondary characters like the main show sometimes does.

And it had great plot and great character development. Hmmm, never thought of it like that with the 3-Act structure.

Also, in my character thing I listed, you can see how they succeeded where Once sort of messed up:

Villain that has a sad story and seems to be an unrepentant Jerk: Jafar in W, Rumple (sort of) in O

Vilain that gets redeemed: Ana in W, Regina in O

Self-righteous hero that gets knocked down a peg: Alice in W, Snow in O (And we all know Snow's character has always been going downhill, especially after season 3a)

Hero with a shady past: Cyrus in W, Snow/ Charming in O (Yes, Cyrus will always beat out unseen eggnapping secret kept by the worst secret keepers.)

Anit-hero best friend: Will in W, Killian in O (Yes, I do love comedic Will over Killlain and his lost puppy ways, but he's growing on me)

Third-Wheel (that gets axed off): Liz in W, Neal in O (I feel sorry for Bae and sad at  the death scene but I felt as sad for Liz after two epsiodes with Neal over two arcs, lol)

It really is just Once with some things moved around. The only thing that differs is that Once didn't start the same way Wonderland did with an Action/Adventure fantasy drama over the small town fairytale drama.