Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26855145-20150804175825/@comment-4689777-20150804220237

Rena Charming wrote: All shows require a certain amount of suspension of disbelief simply because they ARE TV shows, not the real deal. With OUaT that was always gonna be a given because, well, it's about fairytales. It's just that they expect us to suspend our disbelief regarding SO much more than just the magic stuff...

You could argue that Regina was the Evil Queen in another time and another place in which something like that was, I guess, more acceptable? Because we have all studied history to an extent and we know that, in the past (the time that inspired fairytales), people were brutally inconsiderate towards each other, especially royals. Executions happened left and right and it was considered the norm. But the thing is, these people were cursed and made to live in our world, supposedly having to adhere to our way of thinking, our laws. When they came to Maine, they immediately adapted to this land, which is something that, I think, should go beyond knowing how to drive a car or operate a computer. But once the curse is broken, they all go back to thinking like their former selves, which comes with pack mentality: everyone was more than willing to follow D.A. Spencer to murder a young woman because they thought she was wolfing out and killed a guy. With no proper investigation, no humane benefit of the doubt given, let's just arm up with torches and pitchforks and go hunting. Also, is Storybrooke's only prison facility that drunk tank in the Sheriff's station? Cos, with all the villains running around, they should consider investing in a real jail. But I digress.

I get what you guys mean by the problem being that everything gets glossed over, but in the case of the "rape", I personally don't have much of a problem with it because it doesn't because of the way Robin reacted to the whole ordeal. He was relieved that Marian was Zelena, you know? Because to him it meant that he could be with Regina. Apparently that's all he cares about. I have a problem with that, I guess, because this guy is always going on about his "moral code", but he had no problem cheating on his spell-afflicted wife with the woman who had originally had her killed. Staying with someone out of obligation whilst nourishing feelings for someone else hardly qualifies as the "moral" thing to do, but I can understand why some people would think it does. What bothers me about the whole Robin Hood thing, problems getting glossed over, is anything related to the real Marian, the biggest victim in all of this. She was killed by Regina, simply for protecting Snow White. Then, after being saved by Emma, she was killed by Zelena because penguins, and her image was desecrated afterwards. I have so many questions about that, really. Back in the fairytale land, what supposition did Robin get to regarding the fate of his wife? He knew she died, but did he know HOW? He said in 3.13 that he had placed Marian in harm's way, but we now know she was executed due to protecting Snow White. Are there more circumstances to that which we just haven't seen, or did they retcon it? Does Robin think something else happened and blames himself for it? Why was it never actually addressed in season 4? We've never even really seen Snow and Marian being friendly or exchanging dialogue, and yet Marian DIED to spare her. Gave up on being with her family. I honestly just think everything related to Marian is poor, poor writing. Which is a damn shame, because a) the story had great potential that's now been wasted, b) I actually really liked Marian and loved Christie Laing's portrayal and c) the whole thing has made me dislike Robin Hood quite a lot, a character I enjoyed in season 3 and looked forward to knowing more about.

So anyway, my point was, Robin doesn't care about the "rape", it seems. He appears to be relieved to know that Marian wasn't really Marian, which is just... sick. Robin is kinda more sick than Zelena. There, I said it. I guess that you could argue that he had already made his peace with Marian being dead and had started to move on which is acceptable, but that just brings me back to my earlier point, how could he just make peace with her death when he doesn't seem to even have a clue what happened? How did he come to even learn she died? It's all very confusing.

I think the only true lesson we can take from OUaT is to let go of our anger and resentment that keep us from moving forward and being happy because... damn, that's all these characters ever seem to do. :P I guess that wouldn't work in the real world if we were a serial killer like Regina is or married to a serial killer like Belle is. But all in all, since these characters all seem to not give a rat's ass about the bad, BAD stuff that happens to them and around them (from rape to murder to kidnapping to frozen lasagna served as homemade), because they always see the silver lining in everything, well... we could learn a little something from that. Just, maybe not take it to the extreme like they do. They're not just very positive people, they're drugged up all the time. It has to be.

I agree.