Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-26125643-20150404195634/@comment-25602483-20150406192144

Eskaver wrote:

TheSamTrickster wrote:

Eskaver wrote: All magic can be sucked into the hat, but Rumple purposely used those with powerful light magic. What do Blue and Emma have in common? '''Why leave the Apprentice out of that bunch of powerful light magic? He could have absorbed dark magic users, but he didn't.'''I won't get worked up over something minor, but I watch the show intently and several times over. Not all things are told to you. He put the Apprentice in their out of spite and so he wouldn't be there when he accomplished that feat and also he's a source of magical power just like everyone else absorbed.

Of course there are assumptions and unfounded speculation, but if you really want something you would find it. '''I assume the Apprentice can pose a threat to Rumple. I mean he beat him as a mouse (kidding). He likely is given his power by the Sorcerer or at least a powerful person the Sorcerer trust his stuff too. Even the Chernabog was a threat to Rumple, I assume there are others that can pose a threat to him.''' He didn't purposely capture those people with light magic, May I also point out that Regina now wields light and dark magic. If you are talking purposely he coudl have also suck Regina in the hat. We know that Regina's light magic is extremly powerful strong enough to defeat Zelena which we all know can only be "defeated by the perveyor of STRONGEST light magic" and due to the fact that she produced it via true love,  yet she wasn't purposely sucked into the hat. Its not that the apprentice poses a threat to Rumple, the existence of magic itself is a threat to rumple because you can only harm him through magic. Even if you are a minor magic wielding person you can defeat rumple, evident with "the price of gold episode" where a drop of ink disabled rumple completely. Imagine having done that and set rumple on fire, its the end of rumple, i'm not saying these magicla people are no threats to rumple, its how they use their magic,which is wy i pointed out before that with the level of cleverness rumple poses and the way he strategize, the apprentice cannot beat him. Regina was away from everyone and was in that vault forever. He could have taken her and Ingrid too, but he didn't. I don't think Rumple is easy to beat, but I think the apprentice may be on his level of power, just not as clever or agile(lol). For example, I think Ursula could have defeated Rumple or tied with him, but she didn't seem like she knew how to use her power well or she just uses it sparingly.

'''But back on topic, why would Rumple not let the Apprentice out, because he is a threat. Threat to his plan with lots of knowledge and lots of power. I mean Rumple can't even travel to other worlds on his own, yet the Apprentice can conjure portals to the LWM and transfer darkness. If he was freed, Rumple's plan would have likely failed.''' This is not true, belle asked the "oxford professor" to translate the language/spell that would release the fairies supposedly, but rumple gave her the translation and added few more in order to release the chernalbolg, It has nothing to do that he think's the apprentice is a threat, if you watch the episode of the apprentice, you see that Rumple went to see the apprentice, when they met, the apprentince did not even put up a fight, I would also like to point out that if belle found the spell that would release all being that was trapped in the hat rumple could have translated that spell and all would be release, but seeing the recipe is specifically to release the fairies, it would be suspicious if the "oxford professor" gave belle the translated spell that would release all, I mean why would the "oxford professor" know that there are more than fairies that are trapped in the hat, rumple's cover would have blown in his face then. Anyway, Hook went to him and held him in his seat, now tell me, that's the second time he encountered the dark one, yet another time which he didn't fight back and let himself get sucked into the hat. So I guess he knew there is no chance even if he fight back, cause if there was, he could have easily place hook to some sort of trance so he couldn't interfere when he tries to fight rumple, but unfortunately he stood there and welcomed rumple into his home.

Ursula Does not stand a chance against rumple, she only showed that she has 8 hands which she mostly use to immobilize her enemy. The only being I see that is a match to rumple is Zelena, seeing as Cora almost beat Rumple, and rumple mentioned that Zelena is far more powerful than cora, so if Cora is close to beating rumple, then Zelena would likely prevail in a fight or at least come to a draw. Just like Zelena taunted Rumple about the shoes, that he would only get it from her by killing her, she easily dodged rumple, I mean Zelena was so inexperienced compare to rumple at that time yet she has the nerve to stand up to him, what more an apprentice that's supposedly powerful, why can't he freaking port out to at least dodge rumple like zelena. lol.