Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-3456168-20141209204303/@comment-1894786-20150107185407

Dr. Kangaroo wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Dr. Kangaroo wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Dr. Kangaroo wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Dr. Kangaroo wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Actually, if it weren't for Zelena manipulating Rumple's revival and Emma and Hook bringing Elsa back, Elsa wouldn't have spent 30 years in the urn. I mean she would have, but not JUST 30 years. Belle and Rumple said nothing in the vault was brought over. And only Rumple had access to it. So Elsa would've been there FOREVER. I don't think so. Ingrid was still around, waiting for Emma and she might have found a way to make Rumple give her the urn. Rumple would've been dead after the Pan debacle. If Zelena hadn't manipulated Neal into killing himself for Rumple's revival, Ingrid wouldn't have been able to do anything. Hmm, forgot about that... The Sorcerer then? He promised to help her in return for the hat, right? He would have made the urn come in Ingrid's posession... Not necessarily. We don't know anything about the Sorcerer. He could be shadier than Rumple. Yes, I know, but he made a deal with Ingrid. Or do you mean the Sorcerer could be that kind of person who breaks his deals? Cause I don't get that vibe... Well, if Ingrid was already in the LWM and he had his hat, what need would he have to fulfill their deal by bringing her back or sending her the Urn? I guess you're right about that, but I still don't think the Sorcerer is that kind of person to go back on a deal. Like ever. And if the scroll got Ingrid into Storybrooke, it could get her to the urn too... I doubt the scroll was a portal or it would've opened one when Ingrid had Emma so she could go back to the EF and get Elsa's urn from Rumple's vault.