Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27287526-20161101175600

NOTE: Most information here was taken from -> https://www.reddit.com/r/OnceUponATime/comments/354unb/lilys_biological_father_is_speculation/ (this post actually has me very convinced).

So...It doesn't make sense to me that Maleficent, of all people, doesn't know who the father of her child is. I mean, she probably knew that one day Lily would ask why she never met her father. OUAT Maleficent is a 'kind' woman - and definetly not that selfish, even for the Mistress of All Evil.

Anyway, it got me thinking a lot.

What if she doesn't remember him? Like, what if her memories of him were erased/changed, so she would think that the father of her child is some unknown dragon, when the truth is that she actually knows him and maybe...even loves him?

In mythology, dragons are lonely beings, but they're very loyal when it comes to 'family thing'. Still, Maleficent was notably weakened after childbirth and therefore asked to Ursula and Cruella to protect her. In return, she'd give her 'allies' a piece of her child's eggshell. Why? Because it contains enough magic to keep them young and healthy - let's not forget that dragons are immortal.

It would explain why Ursula and Cruella even agreeded to help Maleficent, in the first place; how they knew a dragon's eggshell would not let them age for 30 years; and why they went after the Charmings, looking worried about the baby when, in fact, what they really wanted was to ensure that they would have a piece of the egg. And so, when they were banished to the Land Without Magic, they left Lily in the woods to die.

Now, why would anyone mind in making Maleficent not remember who the father of her child was?

To assure she was alone and weak, totally unable to defend herself. And to assure Emma's darkness was transferred into Lily's heart.

Who did this?

Rumpelstiltskin.

He did what he could and what he couldn't to assure the Dark Curse was casted by Regina and then broken by Emma. But what if Emma needed to be 'pure of intentions' to break the worst curse?

Well, then Rumple would need someone to 'steal' Emma's darkness. And who's better than the child of a dragon? Because it is likely that Lily had to survive Emm's darkness in order for Apprentice's ritual work out. An human baby would have died. Lily is a dragon. She's strong enough to survive.

So, Rumple changed Maleficent's memories, causing her to have no one to protect her when Snow White and her prince stole her egg.

'''And who is the father? What happened to him?'''

I think it's Jafar.

He was the major villain of the spin-off "Once Upon A Time in Wonderland." He is currently trapped inside a lamp (ie, he became a genie, just like in the movie 'Aladdin'). His role in OUATIW, as well as Lily's kippnaping by the Charmings, is linked to 'fate'.

Nyx (to Jafar): "This water was not yours to take. You've let your desires override the Fates. Now your fate will be to serve the desires of others."

Lily's fate will always be connected to Emma's. Since Snow and Charming let their "desires override the Fate," Lily is forever cursed to have a life of darkness.

Nyx, the Greek goddess who imprisoned Jafar inside the lamp, is the personification of the night. The name "Lilith" is derived from the Akkadian word "lilitu" that means "of the night". The name "Lily" is of English origin, from the flower of the same name, which is a symbol of purity. Interestingly, many lilies are known for growing in or around sources of water, such as ponds and streams. The name "Jafar" is of Arabic origin, that means "stream". Incidentally, there is a flower called 'stream lily'. And no; I do not believe in coincidences in this freaking TV show.

Jafar has "swarthy"-looking skin, dark hair, and dark eyes. The younger version of Lily [Nicole Muñoz] shares the same features (as well as Anthony Keyvan - younger version of Jafar). Lily, even in her adult version, is the contrast of her mother, Maleficent, who has blond hair, blue eyes and white skin. If Jafar is Lily's biological father, that means she'd have inherited her dark hair and eyes from him, and her lighter skin from Maleficent.

Jafar wears long robes and a turban that seems to be made of the scales of some reptile. Maleficent's robes are the same: dark colors and also a headdress with horns (the head of a dragon). Both also use staves which are shaped according to their respective forms: a snake (Jafar) and a dragon (Maleficent). In the movie 'Aladdin', Jafar turns into a giant snake. Maleficent, in 'Sleeping Beauty', turns into a black dragon. The reason for this, in both situations, is the same: they wanted to defeat their enemies (Aladdin and Prince Phillip, respectively) in a much larger, more threatening form. If Jafar can turn into a snake, he could easily turn into a dragon.

Jafar has showed interest in 'evil and powerful' women before: the Red Queen (Anastasia) and Amara, the sorceress who originally taught Jafar how to use magic. Maleficent is beautiful, powerful and evil - surely Jafar's type. There is also a reference in OUAT of a genie who fell in love with a 'evil sorceress': Sidney Glass.

Maleficent was in OUATIW, where her voice is projected around a thieves' campfire, to warn a Will Scarlet, who sneaked into her castle and stole a mirror that was actually a portal to Wonderland. Maybe she actually went to Wonderland to retrieve the mirror and there, she met Jafar. Or maybe Jafar was the one who gave her the mirror, so that they could meet more easily.

So, here we go:

1 - Since Rumple did what he could to make Snow and Charming fall in love, he does the same to Jafar and Maleficent. Learning that they are expecting their first child, Rumple realizes that Jafar would never let anyone hurt his family.

2 - Rumple then erases Maleficent from Jafar's memories and sends the sorcerer away or something like that, so Jafar wouldn't protect Maleficent when the Charmings arrived. Rumple then changes Maleficent's memories, so that she wouldn't know who Jafar was - and think the father of her baby was actually an unknown dragon.

And how will Lily find her father?

Maybe she will hear about magic lamps and will try to find one, in an attempt to find her father. Ever watched "Aladdin and the King of Thieves"? So, maybe Lily will ask the very same thing:

"Where is my father?"

The surprise is that her father is the genie himself. It would be an amazing plot (or not), as Jafar had a jerk for a father and it would be amazing to see how he would react to see that he has a daughter who looks so much like him. Children tend to soften the villains of this show, and as Lily is also terrible in making friends, maybe she and Jafar will learn together. And of course, if Jafar once loved Maleficent, how will they react to meet again after 30 years?

Well, this is it. Hope itmy head is hurting now. What a bloody mess. 