Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24589671-20141027013232/@comment-25602483-20141105020943

Andrew.scott.503 wrote:

Cjtrules15 wrote:

TheSamTrickster wrote: Maybe not. ( Maybey not) I hope we get to find out how the SQ came to LWM and how she came to Storybrooke during the first curse. Remember the curse Regina made was for all the EF characters to be trapped in Storybrooke and not remember who they are. That doesn't mean everyone is subject to that. SQ is not part of that curse so she could both cross the town lines and still have her memory. Jefferson\Mad Hatter was able retain his EF memories during the first dark curse, although I assumed this was done by Regina on purpose to 'torment' him with the memories of his daughter and see his daughter 'happy' in Storybrooke with another family.

Victor Frankenstein memories of who he was were suppressed, even though Frankenstein was not from the EF, but the LWC.

Rumples was able to put a 'loophole' into the curse that allowed himself as Gold to regain his EF memories once he heard Emma's name in the pilot episode. But as was pointed out, Gold was still stuck in Storybrooke until the curse was broken (not fully eliminated) AND able to create the memory potion that allow him to cross the town line with those EF memories intact.

However, it has been established that the Sara/Snow Queen was Teen Emma's foster mom (and I assume her Avondale memories were intact) well before Gold regained his EF/Rumples memories.

It was established that Gold and the Sara\Snow Queen had dealings with each other at least during the first dark curse (Sara's Ice-cream Pallor was a neighboring business to Gold's pawn shop) and after Emma entered Storybrooke. I suspect that pre-cursed Rumples might have dealings with the Snow Queen as well.

So maybe the Snow Queen had other means to enter the LWM (not known to Rumples, otherwise I would expect pre-curse Rumples to use the same method or force the SQ to give him access to the LWM). If this is so, I wonder why first season Gold did not wheel and deal with the Sara/Snow Queen in order to leave Storybrooke BEFORE Emma broke the curse? I think my explanation is sound. If you rewatch "the apprentice" they already established that Ingrid did not come through a curse. While it still true that Rumple and SQ had dealt with each other before.