Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24589671-20150309010651/@comment-4821842-20150311181417

BlueFairy90 wrote:

In that respect, the Curse undone and subsequent missing year plot was a very clever move: they basically "reset" the show to clean or hide the mess they had made, and to me it worked… until they put everything on hold for the Frozen arc. And this, imo, is how we ended up with too much stuff all at Once (pun intended) which resulted in an excess of characters and self-focussing plots that pushed some formerly pivotal ones further and further into the background except for some random reappearances. For goodness sake! IMO things wern't put on hold so much during the Frozen arc! What would the characters have done if Zelena had been "killed" and no time portal had happened? Do you think Urusula/Cruella would be here? Would Maleficent be ressurected? No. Rumple would not have been banished. The happy ending seaching would not have happened either!

How many times? The Frozen arc was a wonderful follow up from Zelena part 1, and this current queens arc. I think the fact that they revealed Maleficent would be back before the start of season 4 made the non Frozen people just wish the Frozen arc would be over with already! That's how I felt season 4 started. I just wanted the Snow Queen out of the way for Maleficent.

I too enjoyed the "reset" in 3B. Everything was not put on hold for the Frozen arc! The Frozen people just came to the forefront. Whether or not you like it or not is up to you, But that is what happened! In fact Regina's whole sub plot of happy endings and "Saving Marion" only came about because of Frozen! Same with the hat! I'm sure Rumple would have figured out the secret of removing himself from the dagger. But remember it was Ingrid who told him that he needed Hook's heart! In fact Emma accepting her powers was because of Elsa too! So please enough of "Frozen came along and everything was put on hold" because it is NOT true. We are only where we are now because of Frozen. It was nice also how the little seeds of plots were being made in the Frozen arc. Now we are seeing them blossom! The author, the sorcerer, Rumple, etc.

Rant over.

I heard that orginally someone else was supposed to come out of that urn instead of Elsa, the creators won't confirm who though, I think it was either Ursula or Cruella