Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5106672-20141117061053/@comment-25602483-20141118001857

GothicNarcissus wrote: So, Smash The Mirror has opened a giant question about these subject.

From the show continuity, we know that travelling between worlds is difficult, especially the Land Without Magic which is cut off most of the conventional means. That's the standpoint of the whole show. We know there are five regular options to do so: 1. Magic Beans, a freeway to any world. 2. The Dark Curse, which aptly does that. 3. The wood from the Enchanted Trees, which counteracted the Dark Curse providing a curse-free passage to two people (I'm coming back to why I'm saying that rather than just "magic wardrobe yay" in a second). 4. Pan's Shadow, it can travel anywhere. 5. Some specific objects such as the Silver Slippers, possibly there might be others. In regards of other worlds, it is still difficult, but there are other means which seem to be very rare (the Hat, Pegasus' feathers, the Rabbit Hole).

As of time travel, apparently it is even more difficult to achieve and the only one who succeded in doing so was Zelena with her spell. Also, Neverland has a somewhat weird time flow which can feel either faster or slower than other lands', so that when you travel forth and back you can pop up earlier (the first time, Wendy stayed there for quite some time while only a night passed in the LWM) or later (as apparently in Neal's case) than you expect.

Still, we have a few as of now unexplained world travels, namely:

1. Zelena sending Glinda from Oz to the Enchanted Forest with basically a regular spell.

2. The tornadoes from other lands to Oz.

3. Now, the Sorcerer opening a portal to the virtually unreachable Land Without Magic.

Also, we have two time travel issues. Three-ish, to be completely fair.

1. Jefferson and Regina reached into the past to grab the poisoned apple.

'''2. Ingrid travelled a few years into the future. She started off way before Snow and Charming even met and ended up in the year before the Dark Curse was cast.'''

'''3. Baelfire popped up in the second half of Nineteenth Century (the Elizabeth Tower was completed in 1859), about 150 years from present time, while Rumple says he's been around for abour 300 years, so there's a century and a half gap which is unexplained. This is the third-ish issue, but we can kind of overlook it.'''

So, how do you all think these "exceptions" fit into the general LWM-can't-be-reached, no-time-travel rule? On with your theories. 1. Jefferson said that the hat has rules so its possible that it can reach into the pass to retrieve an object but not be able to warp characters across the time line. so that could be a limitations like one must come in and one must come back.

2. Again, the door might be enchanted like that hat and has its own rule, perhaps this time its unique ability is to travel anywhere.

3. There was never an episode the specifically says what year it is in the fairy tale land, it always says long time ago so we can't really calculate the difference between the LWM and fairy tale land.

Lastly that time travel wasn't really hard to do. I've said it in some other thread, the time travel can be achieved via the four witches of Oz. Wisdom, courage and love and innocence, since 4 witches embodies these four traits, combining these will open a time portal, but the good witches wouldn't really help zelena, hence, she had to collect the ingredients herself/ the totems that embodies these traits to open a portal which in season 3's case are Charming's courage, Rumple's wisdome, Regina's love, and snow's baby's innocence.