Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20170429134340/@comment-25536775-20170616221429

DSP88 wrote: DracoWombat wrote: DSP88 wrote: When Zelena has the pendant, she is clearly stronger than Regina when Regina uses dark magic. But we know from the show that her light magic was stronger than Zelena's pendant. Now I've said before, Zelena without her pendant is stronger than Regina but I don't think by much. I also think that without Zelena having her pendant, light magic no longer has the same effect on her as before so this actually gives Zelena an edge up on Regina. I think something along the lines of out of 10 battles between the two sisters Zelena would win 6 and Regina would win 4 (I think the EQ beating Zelena and only being stopped by Regina ripping her heart out proves this point IMO). Zelena knew what was coming when the EQ poofed them outside and she still stood by and did nothing and eventually told Regina that had she not come when she did she basically would have died thanks to the EQ. But then we all know a few episodes later Zelena is claiming she had it all under control... Regina's light magic isn't more powerful than Zelena's pendant. Zelena's pendant broke the laws of magic, Regina can't do that, and we know as of 5x06 that Regina is using light magic. It's just that Amped! Zelena has a really specific weakness that was light magic.

Imagine Zelena's pendant an MMA fighter that's allergic to cat fur. They can beat practically anything up, but if you drop some cat fur on them, they'll be essentially defeated. Zelena's the MMA fighter, and light magic is the cat fur. The light magic doesn't need to be stronger than Zelena's dark magic, it just needs to be ''light magic. ''

EQ is literally unkillable, Zelena was in a bad emotional state, and probably wondering if EQ would go through with it. That battle means nothing. A battle between Regina and Zelena in present day would've been more informative.

Also, OUaT magic works for the plot. The plot of 6x09 demanded an incapacitated Zelena. So that's what we got. In a show like this, statements mean more than feats because feats are just going to be "what the plot demands is possible" But if your analogy was true then that makes Glinda's statement of the strongest light magic being needed to defeat Zelena not true. So based upon what the show shows us, your analogy that Zelena is basically just allergic to light magic couldn't be true. If it was true, then the Blue Fairy or any other light magic user would have been able to defeat Zelena. Also Glinda herself said her own magic, which we all know is light magic, wasn't powerful enough to defeat Zelena. It took POWERFUL light magic to defeat Zelena and that came from Regina. So yes, Regina's light magic is stronger than Zelena's pendant. And Zelena's pendant didn't break the laws of magic, Zelena herself did. Glinda said and I quote, "this pendant will harness, protect and grow that power" that Zelena was born with. The pendant gave Zelena NO power, it only amplified her own power by acting as a vessel for her power to flow through.

Regina's light magic is canonically not as powerful as Emma's. The "strongest light magic" thing was merely poetic. Glinda was never had a chance to even try to hurt Zelena; she wanted to talk and get through to her in the Royal Palace of Oz and before she even had the idea to blast Zelena, she was banished to a dimension she couldn't leave. Glinda never even had the chance.

As for Shady Blue, she is Shady Blue. Aside from that one time she tried to stop Regina in season two, she's basically allowed all villains to walk by without doing much of an effort to stop them. It's a plot hole, sure, but that's just how things are.