Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-34563899-20180218220444/@comment-28162607-20180219205553

Mattestar7 wrote: Aine1989 wrote:

Mattestar7 wrote: Aine1989 wrote:

Killiarious wrote: Honestly it's all very messy, Neal you could argue it either way (it's not like it was his intent though), Hook made a shitty joke but there's no true evidence that he ever raped someone.

The only people that are confirmed rapists are Zelena, Regina, and Gothel. Those are facts.

The other two are eh and probably not worth arguing over due to the way timelines work and A&E not being careful with that topic. I don't think the take away from Hook or Neal's situations was meant to be rape from a storytelling standpoint. No. Neal unambigiously sexually abused Emma. Even if you think that biologically he was a teenager he was over 200 years old. And Emma was definitely still underage.

Even if it was not his "intent" (strange wording) it was still abuse. No he wasn’t. I know you hate Neal but stop saying thinks that are not true. Neal did not rape or sexually abused Emma, she agreed to have sex with him, he did not force her. 16/17 year old kids cannot consent to sex. So yes, he did sexually abuse her. Look up the Oregon consent laws if you do not believe me. Well in my mind sexually abuse is when you are doing sexual things to someone who doesn’t want it. But if sexually abuse is to have sex with someone and agrees to it, but it is agents the law then I understand. I just think it should be called something else. The general term for it is 'statuatory rape', because the young person is not consenting.

Look at Emma for example. Not only was she too young to give consent, but she likely had very little sex education and knew little about STDs and how to avoid pregnancy. Can a misinformed, vulnerable young teen consent to sex?