Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20160820125814/@comment-25758988-20160821012612

Eskaver wrote: As of shows I watch, for example Supernatural, they seemed to have the first five seasons sort of solidly put together, until change of leadership when you could tell that the story was just continuing because ratings (?).

I would say that as I mentioned, the show has solid bittersweet moments for 5A and 3A, could have solid happy endings for 3B and 5B, but here we are. I don't expect perfection, but it seems that we are stuck in a real twister. I'll ask anyone who cares to answer:

1. Why does Emma still have walls after 5 seasons? How many times does she have to learn to realize her family's acceptance?

2. How many times is the "Evil Queen" going to be flashed about? How many times are Rumple and Belle going to "break up"?

3. Can you really keep being hyped when the writers say that they are "focusing on our core characters", dicussing their "unfinished business", and discussing secrets that have never been hinted at whatsoever?

They literally said similar words nearly every season or so. Disney insertion has shown that it really isn't helping. Yeah, they get publicity and they aren't #6 show of the night or something, but their credibility for me goes way down. It's like they are trying to string along people, but the don't deliver fully.

I hope season 7 is a go and then it can wrap up "in theory" the way the runners say. I hear what CDa is saying, but I'll explain it sort of like this: Imagine a book series where the characters went in circles, but introduced new baddies now and again.

I never read Harry Potter, but if Harry defeated Voldemort in book 1, 3, in the early part of 5, it would get old. Then, have Hermoine show interest in Ron, then break up, then get back together in the next book, then to break up 2 books later, just to get back together at the end. Voldemort also survives Book 5, then stays in the background until he's redeemed in book 7. Since I never read it, I don't know, lol. However, I think anyone can see what I'm getting at.

Powerscaling-wise, these people just faced death, darkness, obstacles to love, fate, etc, what's there to accomplish? We've got the book, the author, the sorcerer, the DO mythos. There's really not much else to gather and it would still be cool if they left other things a mystery. I do see your point, I have been wondering these same points to myself since season 4. I did enjoy season 4 but it was the most disney season ever. I actually had this thought before the first episode of season 1 as I thought about Lost. I hoped Adam and Ed would not make the same mistakes with Once they did with Lost (I know that all the problems with Lost were not all their fault so I cant blame them for everything) but I am blaming the one thing the show share which is too many seasons. Lost was brilliant for the first 3 seasons but then it became silly and tedius. same plots rehased or altered slightly to match the character. Lost also had an ending which seemed like the writers did not know how to end it and just came up with the most simple ending but simple does not always mean good. I was worried Once may follow the same path.

I dont any more! I agree that seasons 4 and 5 to some level have the same storylines we have sean in seasons before which indicates lazy writers and I asked myself the same question Eskaver asked "How many walls can Emma have now after 5 seasons?" And I wondered the same things about Rumple and Belle I also was growing concerned we will never learn or have the mysteries explained from the earlier seasons i.e how did Snow meet Cinderella, Where was Prince Philips soul sent to? Who is the Blue Fairy and the mysteries about the other worlds and how people travelled between them? etc.

I think the writers got a little complacent during season 4 and hoped the Frozen and Queens of Darkness arcs would push them through the season without to much work. They also realised that it was not enough. so they pushed themselves a little harder but still hoped The Sword in the Stone and Brave would pull in fans and then we had the Hercules arc which actually only focused on Hercules for a single episode and just focused on Hades, which gave the writers a bit of a harder job to pull disney fans in to a arc that only focuses on a single character and Once fans by trying to connect Hades to the main group which i think they did rather well. However the writers made their biggest mistakes (IMO) killing off Arthur, killing Robin and Ruby Slippers. I thought at this point while the season was goodish overall it really kicked you in the teeth and I genuinly thought where they going to go next season that can get us hyped again, cuz lets be honest other then Aladdin and the Princess and the Frog there is not much more Disney films and characters left to push in our faces.

Then I waatched the finale of season 5 and we were introduced to Jykll and Hyde and the other stories and even better the LUS. I actually thought wow I guess the writers have realised their mistakes with the last few season and am trying a whole new take on their episodes. I then hear about some of the titlesand realise who they are bringing in and that we will be seeing more stories with the original cast. yes we will still have more Evil Queen but i have a bit of faith we shall be seeing her in a very different way. They have now introduced several new things to get us interested in and some older stuff too. I am ecited to see the next season and perhaps a 7th season but I think 7 seasons is more then enough. :)