Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-1842576-20181118143825/@comment-10663213-20181122093522

Aine1989 wrote: Truest Believer wrote: Matheus1234zx wrote: Truest Believer wrote: Matheus1234zx wrote: Best ships:*SwanQueen <3 <3
 * ScarletQueen <3 <3
 * Rumbelle
 * NookedBayou
 * MadArcher

Good ships:
 * Snowing
 * Cylice
 * Swanfire

Neutral/Okay ships:
 * GlassBeliever
 * RubySlippers
 * DragonQueen

Bad ships:
 * CaptainCharming
 * Henvy
 * VoodooQueen
 * SleepingWarrior

Worst ships: Why is CaptainSwan an abusive ship? Hook is not a good person and never truly redeemed himself, as we can see in 6x20, when he says that he's finally going to skin the croc, he makes Emma doubt of herself and question herself, he also tried to F*CKING KILL HIMSELF only to get her attention, he did all that stuff as the DO. After his supposed "change" he kept lying to Emma, and making her feel guilty for things he is the guilty one. He also treated her like crap when she went to the Underworld to rescue him. Just to let things clear, I have nothing against Colin. In fact, I think he's one of the best actors in the show and, I love Nook. He is my favorite male character besides Will Scarlet, of course 1) When he said he was going to skin the croc, it was in a flashback
 * OutlawQueen
 * CaptainSwan

2) When did he try to kill himself? And when did he make Emma feel guilty of his own actions?

3) Let's not count the DO stuff, we've seen that DOs are become mad or evil, like Rumple, Emma was also kinda evil and Hook too.

I'm not defending Hook, he's not my favourite character, and I think he's a bad person, considering he explicitly said in S2 that he liked to reap women. Despite that, I think he has redeemed himself, imo. "Hook never truly changed"-this is just plainly, blatantly incorrect. That is all I can say. "he says he's finally going to skin himself a croc"-Heroes going after villains is nothing new. Snow and Charming tried to hard Regina several times. "He makes Emma doubt herself and question herself"- Where and when? I remember him saying things like "you can overcome anything/you can do this/you're amazing/you've got this/I've yet to seeyou fail", which seems the oppostie of doing that. "Treated her like crap in the UW"-Where and when? He was the only one really looking out for her. "Tried to kill himself"-I agree this was a terrible writign decision, but in the context of the whole episode, it was not abuse. It should not have happened, but it wasn't as simple as "I'll kill myself if you leave me", as far as he knew Emma was planning something terrible and he needed to get to her. "Making her feel guilty"-Where and when? When he said "I was a broken man and I did terrible things?" Now I love defending Hook/CS as much as the next person, but I don't think it should happen on this thread. If we're gonna do this deadly dance again, let's makea new thread for it Agree. Feel free to create this If you want to continue this discussion