Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20151207015752/@comment-25926288-20151211204521

Hmcooper4 wrote: Farerb wrote: Hmcooper4 wrote:

When Hook threatened her family, especially Henry, she had to struggle, yes (but who wouldn't). But in the end she chose to sacrifice Hook for everyone else. There is NO way that Gold would EVER have done that for Bae. What are you talking about?!? Gold sacrificed his life for Bae, Belle and the rest of Storybrooke in a situation that wasn't his fault. That was heroism and a selfless act. In 315 he had to make the choice between Bae and his dagger and he chose Bae. They just want all of us to forget about those and pretend that Gold was always a selfish man when he wasn't. 3x11, yes Gold did make the ultimate sacrifice. But interesting, in retrospect, he did not give up the dagger or his power. Given the way that Rumple makes deals, I wonder if he already knew the loophole in his "death" and was willing to gamble that someone would eventually come to free him. (he just did not anticipate it being Bae).

in 3x15, he had to make a choice between Bae and the Dagger. But again, that choice did not involve him losing his power, just some self control until he could find a way to get the dagger back.

His love for Bae is very real, and very deep. That they have shown. But his love for power is even deeper, and they have shown that as well. And every action that Gold has taken has been a step to have what he wants and still keep his power.

And I'm not saying the Gold was always a selfish person, because he wasn't. Just that Gold is a hard-core dark magic addict. and every action he has taken supports that idea. In some ways, Gold has a Love-Hate relationship with his darkness, but the darkness, the additction, always wins. Perfectly reasonable, but why put Rumple down like that. You are invalidating the good he has done for things not given in the show.

I could perfectly well and say that Hook only cared about the safety and livelihhod of Emma and could care less about what happened to her family. I could, I could, but it's not fair to say.

Rumple saved the town, he was going to sacrifice his life for Henry in that arc. He had no clue he could come back for that. If he did, then he would never had worried and let's not add something that isn't there. Now, we can say he did it for Belle and Bae. Fine.

Then Rumple showed his first step of choosing Bae over power and then to take that away from him is cruel. He did do that and it was a symbolic gesture. As Zelena even said after, he gave up the dagger, but lost himself. If anything, his love for Bae was something that overpowered his love for power, but sadly Bae wasn't long for the world and Rumple ended up in the place he ended up.

Now, the whole dagger situation is just for the past, not the present Rumple things. Emma would have been freed, but she wasn't because of her selfish love for Hook. And....I made a thread for that, so I won't discuss that here.

However, my whole point was that Hook's Eureka moment was not earned.