Board Thread:Spoilers!/@comment-26225812-20150625072936/@comment-1916997-20151121212423

Killian Jones wrote:

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: I just want to point out that they've shown multiple interracial relationships on screen (Cora and Henry, Regina and Daniel, Regina and Robin, Arthur and Guinevere, Merlin and Nimue, Alice and Cyrus) and they've never made a fuss of it. In fact, it didn't even hit me until like... four days ago that Merlin and Nimue were an interracial couple.

So maybe the LGBT couple will be the same way? The only reason they've made such a big deal about this is because they've been asked about it. Repeatedly. And so they answer, and thus the media and fans are the ones who create this hullabaloo. I think it is mostly their fault, not ours. They are the ones who created a universe in which the LGBT community practically does not exist. We have been introduced to over 250 characters. Out of which Mulan is the only one confirmed to not be straight, and onscreen it has not been shown as clearly as the straight couples have. Now, I'm not an expert when it comes to population ratios and that kind of data, but I have heard something along "1 in 10 people is not straight", not "1 in 250 people is not straight".

So yes, if you create a universe where the number of LGBT people is reduced 25 times, you can not blame it on fans when they are overwhelmed by the one queer relationship you try to subtly introduce like no one will notice.

The show has had infinite potential to introduce LGBT characters. The claim that "it's a show about fairy tales, and fairy tales don't include LGBT characters" is not valid at all, in my opinion. Fairy tales don't include Jack being a woman, or Red Riding Hood being a wereweolf, or Rumplestiltskin wanting the Miller's daughters' baby to be his own offspring, or Cinderella making a deal with him, or... The list goes on forever.

They decided to make Jack a woman, who was in some kind of relationship with Prince James? They could have just as well made Jack a gay man who was in a relationship (with the exact same story and dynamic) with Prince James. And that is just one of the millions of chances they missed, which is not wrong, but definitely their choice.

This is why I get annoyed when they claim it is us, the fans, who are overreacting for a "perfectly normal relationship, just like Snow and Charming", when it is THEY who have made LGBT an extremely rare type of relationship in the Once Upon a Time universe. To be fair, many characters out of that 250 do not have a sexuality confirmed, and I would argue that dwaves (and possibly giants and fairies) are asexual. But yeah, you still have a bit of a point.