Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4519633-20141022032431/@comment-28211584-20160525222217

Eskaver wrote: Mr.Carvalho wrote: DracoWombat wrote: Mr.Carvalho wrote: I think magic is something hereditary in Ouat but may be suppressed in some people (such as cora and Ana), now abaut the  fact of hyde, I think the Wizards have some control over the intensity of their fireballs (their magic in case) because zelena fireball disintegrated the head of a guard but only knock off the hyde guard, and hyde could resist it, but he was unconscious by security weapon ray (i do not know you guys but I think the zelena magic is stronger than the shock of gun) soon if her increased the intensity of hes magic  i think she could knock him / disintegrates him easily.

About the ranking, i do not agree to put ingrid and Emma (Emma can stay  aboce than in the future but not now ) above cora and regina, rumple himself said indirectly that cora is more powerful than ingrid and said that the evil queen was his best apprentice (really I do not think that ingrid is  more powerful than the evil queen, if you want I list the facts)

ps: pan doesnt resisted rumple magic, rumple who chose to sleep only the lost boys We're looking only at raw power here, skill level is something else entirely. Emma's pretty powerful, but she just doesn't care to learn how to properly use her magic. Ingrid's magic seems to be amiguously limited to ice and snow, althoguh she has been able to cast unrelated simple magic spells. But they're both quite powerful.

And Ingrid was never Rumpel's apprentice. He really just met her that one time and never really looked into it further.

And taking the 3x16 letter into account, Rumpel's most powerful student was Zelena. What Rumpel calls Regina in 5x22/23 is "his best student"; Zelena may have been quite powerful but she wasn't nearly as submissive to Rumpel as Regina was. She couldn't be called his best student under those behavioural circumstances ok, I get it, only in a matter of raw power i do not think ingrid is stronger than cora or regina, because indirectly is written in the letter that cora is more powerful than ingrid.and talking about regina be the best rumple apprentice, I agree that he is not talking entirely about  power but means greater knowledge, effort and skill on magic Nope. The letter was Rumple telling Cora that Zelena was more powerful than Cora. Zelena was the most powerful sorceress he had ever met.

The tricky thing about raw power is that Ingrid and Elsa have really big bursts of magic, so we can't quantitify who actually has more.

So, of the Mills women, Zelena is the most powerful, Regina's the best student, and Cora has experience. It's pretty much as my example goes, Zelena's the natural dancer, Regina's the one that studies hard, Cora's the one that toool the dance class a few times. Who's better? Well, depends. But it's very likely that they are all about the same.

Ingrid and Elsa might have large spouts of power, but the Mills are more diversified and knowledgeable.

in simplicity, raw power nis hard because the show changes who can do what and when. Come on, the letter from rumble to cora says that zelena is the most powerful sorceress he has ever met, and he emphasizes "even more powerful than you," indicating indirectly that no one before was more powerful than cora only zelena. And about the mills family, I consider all three at the same level of power, when rumble wrote the letter, regina still had difficulty with magic, we also seen cora easily neutralize zelena fireball and regina in "sisters", and since the beginning of season 5 is shown that the level of  zelena power is equated with regina, so I put the three on the same level.

ingrid and elsa really have much raw power when it comes to ice, but we do not see ingrid do any magic made of great raw power without regard to ice magic, and other magicians have  comparable feats of raw power   with ingrid`s ( of course  is not higher, but still is comparable), taking into account that many of them do not, simply because they do not want and for lack of need (we will not consider them less powerful because they have not made, rumble has no made of  freeze a kingdom as ingrid but we know he is more powerful than her, zelena also not, but we know that she is more powerful, right when I say that regina andcora are at the same level as zelena i  think its valid considers them more powerful than ingrid)