Board Thread:Spoilers!/@comment-6036560-20130415102308/@comment-5107341-20130417050928

Rubelle wrote: Bold text WikiDoctor wrote:

ok, 1Rumplestiltskin is my favourite character because I can relate to him. Like in Skin Deep, when he got told by Regina the lie about Belle. He was heartbroken. Put up a momento to his lost love. I've been through this. There was this girl I quite fancied. Told her but she got another boyfriend. She unfriended me then deactivated, leaving me heartbroken but I keep our chat as a momento. See anything familiar? Now, Rumple's a coward. Ran away from a war. I'd do that. War's hell. Learnt that from the Doctor himself. He had to destroy his own civilisation to save himself and the whole of reality. No more family left. Now, I'd do what Rumple did. Run away. If I have to fight in a war, I'll go to Switzerland.

See no one has any problem if he is your favorite character. I like him too, a lot. But does not mean I will blindly support him and curse anyone to die if they offend him.

Putting up a memento is sweet, not sure how is It related to kill the first person who offends you. Destroying a whole civilization to save himself!!! I am not sure what you mean but whatever it is, it’s very selfish to destroy everything else for your own interest. That is not right. Not even if the world’s most favorite person is doing it. Wrong is a wrong.

Rumple went to the war in first place, btw, against Mila’s insistence to wipe off the son of coward tag and then ran away from it. No one forced him to go to war. So no question of he had to fight the war. He went there out of his own free will and run away out of his own free will as well.

WikiDoctor wrote: <br /

2) Now Milah. From what I have heard, she knew that Rumple was the Dark One, which meant she must have known that he was powerful. Now, if she knew that, why did she make him angry? His anger clouded his judgement and he ripped out her heart. Rule One: Do not make him angry. If you make him angry, you are asking for trouble

Now, if Hook loved Milah, like really loved her, he would have stepped in front of Milah, like what Emma did with Snow in the Queen of Hearts. Stabbbing Rumple, making him suffer, thats not protecting his true love. Thats Revenge; avenging his true love Its very plain sailing to say why would x make y angry when x knows y is powerful. It’s called abuse of power by y. Such people can get angry if there is less sugar in the coffee. No telling. Dictators are known to punish people harshly for opposing their dictatorship. What should those people do? Not make the dictator angry. Hook was almost killed by rumple when milah stepped in, and then in the boat, rumple had threatened to kill everyone in boat. Then even after he got what he came for, rumple was the one who asked milah questions and then suddenly ripped her heart out. No one anticipated it would happen. I am not sure how he could have stepped in front and offered his heart? He already protected Milah once saying she died after which rumple challenged him to a duel, almost killing Hook in the process before Milah revealed herself. You mean when rumple cut hooks hand off, made other people suffer, tried to kill hook to avenge belle, they were okay? Why ? because you like Rumple?

WikiDoctor wrote:

3) Rumplestiltskin was converging all the timelines onto Emma from early on. He knew that she would help him with his quest to find his son. He didn't care how to do it as long as it was done. His intentions were pure, as his heart, sort of. The Dark One's curse may have corrupted his mind but not his heart. Because of Baelfire. he wanted to become the Dark One for Bae so his heart was left "pure" (I'm using pure very losely here. I'm not saying pure as in "Snow White has the purest heart" but pure, as in "Rumplestiltskin's heart was pure as his love for bae protected it from the Dark One's curse). If he didn't become the Dark One for Bae, he qould have been very corrupt and therefore a villian. But he didn't. he's an anti-hero. Now, when Bae left, he started his work to begin converging the timelines on Emma (like what Dalek Caan had been doing to Donna Noble to destroy the Daleks. Created a three-way Human-Timelord metacrisis, which is like what Emma is: the product of True Love. Both are special.)

Pure intentions does not mean the dirty way should be forgiven. First off, Rumple lost his son, for his own greed and inability to let go of his power. Even when his son called on for him. He was quite corrupted in heart as well. And then he manipulated strings of events to get his result. Not caring for others and destroying their lives, to achieve your own goal, no matter how great goal it is, is selfish. There is nothing good or great in it. IF anyone told you otherwise, the person is mistaken.

If he didn't become the Dark One for Bae, he qould have been very corrupt and therefore a villainI am at loss. What does that mean? Its true though, rumple is not a villain, he is an anti-hero. Don’t know who Dalek Caan etc are, so no comments on it.

WikiDoctor wrote:

4) Now as for being hypocritical, I was hoping to write it like Rumplestiltskin. I got told that doing something like that would improve my English skills. All my teachers say I need to do that. Now I think I need more practise, right? Now do you guys think Rumplestiltskin would say something like that? NO idea. right now, sometimes you are expressive and sometimes not. Just to clear things up: Those English skills are really debating skills. I wanted to see how good I am at debating. Since I have apparently lost They must not be that good. I chose this topic cause I heard that Hook had teamed up with tamara and Owen to destroy Regina (I heard this from a friend. She loves Regina and was very distraught at what happened to her. She had to go to the guidance counciller at school) and that really made me mad about Hook. Cos I care for my friends. Sure Regina has done stupid stuff. Rumple too. But they do not need to be destroyed/killed. And Henry wouldn't want Regina to die either. Now, at the end of the Queen of Hearts, Henry gave Regina a hug, meaning he loves Regina still.

Also, Dalek Cann, Time Lords, The Doctor - all from Doctor Who. The best show on TV. Well, one of the best (The other being Once Upon a Time). The DOctor is a Time Lord and he fought in the Last Great Time War (fought between Time Lords and Daleks) The Doctor was the only one who could stop it. The only way he could was to destroy Daleks and Time Lords alike. This was to stop the fighting and to keep the whole of reality safe. But the Doctor didn't destroy his people one. he did it twice. The Time Lords were gonna escape the Time War and to do that, knock Earth out of orbit. The Doctor saved Earth, but at a price. I don't think I explained all that fully the first time. Now, I could write pages on the Daleks and Dalek Caan but I on't have the time and I may get details wrong. So please Google it. go to the Doctor Who wikia, very detailed.

Now, I just said that Rumple went to war. Never said he had to go. never said he chose to (or I'm I thinking I didn't write that and actually did). Any way, there were differences between me and Rumple. I would be drafted he wasn't. Thats what I was trying to say. I don't think I said it right.

Once again, this was to test myself; see if I had debating skills. I think I do, but not very good ones. But you have to be the judge of that, I guess. I am sorry if I offended any one but if I said at the beginning it was a test, no one would have done all that heartfelt arguement that you did ( I did that before. No one responded. Thats why I never told it was a test til now. And I'm sorry if I used you). Now the test debate I failed. You passed Rubelle.