Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26159109-20150722160646/@comment-25926288-20150722180623

Haha, I view it as just the opposite foe 3a and 3b. I don't love 3a as it may seem to appear, but I gues I count counter some points.

1) They didn't ruin his character. It (in retrospect) shows that Rumple might have been a bit better than he looks with having to face a difficult decision with how he would choose to react to fate once more. It was contrived, sure. But Rumple didn't really need Neal to keep barging in. And so on. Poor writing, but not a character destruction like season 3b to season 4 (he had reasons but those reasons were not explored at all!) And it will come when they force Rumbelle.

2) Can't say much on that, but since season 1, the show increases in plot driven story and leaves the characters behind.

3) Well, you can't keep everyone forever. What I think they could have done better was do something with Ruby, Belle, etc a little more, but we all know they neglect Belle, even worse in season 4.

4)Season 3a didn't put any of that on hold because I just think the writers just never planned anything out past season 1.

5) Well, yeah, plot holes every where. Still don't know why Rumple had to die.

3b hurted more than helped with the Crtl Z. Ships gained significant hold, rather than the characters. It was also super plot-driven. Most episdoes the characters sat around waiting for something to happen. They had to react to the plot because there wasn;t much lese going on.

4a was putting everything on hold as best they could. Still bad.

4b, well we all know...

3a did not start Plot Driving. That was season 2. Season 3a still had significant character stuff and actually ended with beautiful character moments. Can't say much about what happened afterwards.

Once changed into a more action/adventure type of show which is why it needed more plot driving, but they neglected their characters for pretty much no reason.

Camelot will be a whole new scope....hopefully.