Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-11464223-20131118032545/@comment-24206841-20131123223138

XxBadWolfxX wrote: The reason why ChocolatEyes613 would try to "change your mind" is because this is a forum. Where debates happen.

Also No no no no! Sure OUaT needs to change parts of the story or Improve writing

or get better CGI in order to win back some viewers.

However the heartbeat of Once is to NOT go by the original fairy tales.

So dude can chill in his grave.

This series is about the twists and surprises and its what makes the show and not telling the tale that the original authors had spun.

So many forget that and I don't know why ;/

This is not your  Great Great Gramma's fairy tales.

I think the reason he wrote all that was because he's just bothered by this twist. Some of us prefer to look at Peter Pan as this innocent sad selfish boy, because we don't like seeing children protrayed evil I guess. He was a babe in the original story then later grew 6-7 years old in the play after Little White Bird, which was the frist novel in which Peter Pan was introduced and everybody loved him.

Once main goal was not to go by the original tales because it would all be a repeat of tales we knew already and that would be just boring, not a good premise for a television series, but in doing this their goal (I think) was to expand on characters we loved growing up and making us look at it in more of a modern perspective, that fairy tales still matters today and we can still relate to it. Going by that, them making Peter Pan, a father of Rumplestiltkin, leaving his son because he didn't want to go grow up, because he couldn't handle the responsiblities, that was brilliant, I'll admit. I think the writers were going by the Peter Pan syndrome. Modern day Peter Pans aren't really that loved (who can blame them) except maybe Micheal Jackson...

Which just makes this reveal really really creepy. And while brilliant the idea was, I find it very creepy and aggree with Nickclark89, this tears the innocense of the original tale of Peter Pan and Neverland. Peter Pan is actually a grown man who kidnaps children and turns them into murderous beings. While I found the idea of Once turning fairy tales into a more modern perspective, and educating us what real fairy tales were like, I know the origins of most aren't so innocent, I can't help thinking that in tying to do so their tearing the innocence of it.

Before you blow me over, I know Peter Pan wasn't really innocent, but the tale was about that children were innocent but the childhood experiece wasn't. Peter Pan was an innocent kid that he stayed a kid and always went back to his first laugh (because of his forgetfullness) but his experiences (i.e killing pirates) were not innocense. Kind makes you question what is true evil. He's innocent cause he doesn't know better, yet ingnorence is the greatest evil. Thought Once would expand on that and the nature of his being. They didn't. Making Peter Pan a grown man who remembers his time as a grown man wanting eternal youth is just a rewrite of the character. Basically this isn't Peter Pan. And it really takes away what the character stands for and what the story was about because I'm extremely confused as to where Tinkerbell, Wendy, or Hook stand in this whole fucked up story of Peter Pan. I could see how Hook would be the good guy and Peter the bad so clearly, and why aren't they focused on that relationship, which is an integral part of Peter Pan. Instead their linking him to some other character: Rumplestiltskin! I didn't like that either.

This was a bittersweet episode for me. I can't deny it was brilliant cause I couldn't stop thinking about it and it was a shocker, but I didn't really like it very much.

That's my opinion

Nickclark89 wrote: ChocolatEyes613 wrote: Nickclark89 wrote:

I criticize the fact that PERSONALLY I don't like this evil and demonish Peter Pan. I hope the Shadow has to do with all this. For my geeky-health. It is called a twist to the tale, for a reason. Do you think the writers care, about your geeky-health? News flash: they do not.... this is their story, to tell.

While the Neverland Shadow is evil, so is Peter Pan. He cannot, and does not deserve to, be redeemed. That is the wonderful thing about it. The OUaT Peter Pan, is a true villain. Yes, and it is called have a personal opinion too, respect dearie. I don't know why are you trying to change my mind.

PS. the writers should worry about the loss of viewers every week. Yes, this is their story, the story which are selling to US. The reason why ChocolatEyes613 would try to "change your mind" is because this is a forum. Where debates happen.

Also No no no no! Sure OUaT needs to change parts of the story or Improve writing

or get better CGI in order to win back some viewers.

However the heartbeat of Once is to NOT go by the original fairy tales.

So dude can chill in his grave.

This series is about the twists and surprises and its what makes the show and not telling the tale that the original authors had spun.

So many forget that and I don't know why ;/

This is not your  Great Great Gramma's fairy tales.