Board Thread:Wiki-Related Discussion/@comment-5834856-20140830164503

Hello Oncers,

a month ago we discussed what counts as magic. During that discussion we also talked about the plants Dreamshade and Ground Poppy Dust. Due to reasons that are listed below, if I remember it correctly, we agreed on excluding Dreamshade and Ground Poppy Dust from Magic.

Dreamshade: "Dreamshade is described as a nasty poison. It's native to Neverland. I don't know, if one can apply the laws of biology to fictional worlds properly, but doing just that now, I would say Dreamshade is one possible result of a plant adjusted to the environmental conditions of Neverland. Adjusted in countless years of evolution. Of course Neverland has magic, but I would say, in this case it's more comparable to deserts being warm and dry. The plant Dreamshade tolerates of magic because Neverland has it, maybe even requires it to grow (as far as I know, it only grows in Neverland) but that doesn't mean it's magic. I would rather say it metabolizes magic. Whatever the reason I would also say that it's rather due to the locational advantage that it grows near a quell with magic properties. The plant itself has no magic, I think."

Ground Poppy Dust: It's easier with Ground Poppy Dust. In the episode Quite a Common Fairy episode Tinker Bell used poppy dust on Regina. Realizing that Regina says the following:

''Whatever you knocked me out with I can tell it’s not magic. Maybe poppies. But they’re wearing off. And since you had to resort to that, it only means one thing. You don’t have magic.''

In my opinion this quote makes it quite clear that Ground Poppy Dust isn't magic.

Checking the List of Items I noticed that Regina's Apple Tree is listed as an item. Personally, I can't agree on that. An apple tree is a plant. It grows, lives and dies. Items don't have a life of their own. Items are made and used by people or other species like trolls, genies...

Furthermore in getting preparing to work on the Transcript of The Tower I searched for a page of the plant  nightroot. Zelena uses it on David confronting him with his greatest fear in order to gain his courage for her Time Travelling Spell. Rapunzel also used it and locked herself up in a tower. Robin Hood declined to use it, although Friar Tuck advised him to use it. Nightroot plays an important role in one episode only. It's probably inappropriate to create an extra page for it.

Plants are neither items nor magic.

Therefore I'd like to suggest creating a list page of plants where we can list Regina's Apple Tree, Dreamshade, Ground Poppies and Nightroot as well as any other plant of importance that may come in future seasons.

What do you think?

Kind regards,

OEdystopia 