Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-1962215-20140317132636/@comment-25926288-20150916034107

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Eskaver wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: I don't think the Darkness is evil at all. It's necessary. Without Darkness, there can be no Light. If there's nothing to compare it to, then Light is just... everything. So how would people know what is what if there's no Darkness?

IDK how to describe it but it's going into some metaphysical topics that even I can't handle and I'm the one who brought them up.

I definitely think it's dangerous, which is why it was tethered to the Dark Ones for eons. But it's not inherently evil. Unless it's shown to be a sentient being with full knowledge of its actions and no remorse, then it would be evil.

Using that definition, all of our villains are evil (obviously), but of those, most have shown remorse, compassion or redemption at one point or another (Rumple, Hook, Cora, Regina, Ingrid, Anastasia, Ursula, Maleficent, Sultan). So while those villains were evil, they're not the most evil because they show a human side to them that the others (King George, Peter Pan, Zelena, Jafar, Jabberwocky, Cruella, Isaac) just simply don't. I agree with you there. However, King George did show a human side and he was to me a reasonable villain. He focused on the well-being of his people with "the ends justifying the means". Some people see that he interfered with Twu Luv, but he wanted the marriage to go through to help the failing economy of his kingdom. That's call being a leader, which is something the Charmings barely know (or at least show). Now, he did go over the justified line when he started riots and mobs, but he was pretty much helping the many over the suffering of a few (Charming and Snow).

Malcolm is one I didn't find that bad, because there's some disconnect between him and Peter Pan. Malcolm even when letting go of Rumple looked distraught, but in the present day, he had no care in the world. There wasn't a real transformation. For all I know, Peter hit his head on Skull Rock while flying and lost his empathy, lol.

Zelena did show her human side, whiny as it is. We'll likely see more of the humanity in her. She even seems to be on the verge of constant remorse or reveling in evilness.

Can't really advocate for the rest though, lol. George wasn't really a bad guy when we first met him, but it's clear he was spoiled rotten. I mean look at what James did in "Tiny" (Btw, we need more of James. Charming is so boring, yet James was... YUMMY.) And that was all ok with George.

And a man willing to make a woman barren after having suffered his wife's infertility is definitely evil to me. Especially if he saws a man in half, in cold blood, just to stage a hostile takeover of a town. Which by the way... He's the DA, and Charming wasn't legally the Sheriff. He can't hurl him in jail for impersonating a police officer? Yeah, his actions afterward were despicable. I take it that he was more desperate and miserable than evil. Sort of.

Chances are he's dead. Locking someone in the mines for weeks.....either someone fed him or David has some hidden evil secrets.