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Season 4

Best

--Worldbuilding was at an all time high! Which is a plus to me when they just throw random places at us with no relation.

--The effects are more ups than down!

--Decent quality acting by all the actors, with Elizabeth Mitchell and Victoria Smurfit being the highlights.

--Nice villain motivation, plan, and pay off

--Comic relief: Will

--Mythos and Magic with the Apprentice and Author

--Interesting conceptual outline

--Return of villains: Maleficent and most importantly......Zelena!!!!!!

Worst

-- The biggest thing is the fact there are dropped plot lines or weak payoffs

-- Rumple: Make yourselves allies, keeep up appearances.......nevermind, let's ressurect Maleficent to, um.......I need her to find the Author somehow......oh look here's the Author......I got a quill, but no ink. So, let's turn Emma dark....well didn't work out, so......

-- Queens of Darkness were completely and utterly unnecessary extras in their own arc. Ursula sent off in the third episode of the arc. Cruella was fine, but why? Maleficent made the most sense out of them all.

-- Oh, the spell that killed an entire kingdom is enacted!!!!!! Campy fun time with no actual death. Could have been an extra, but no one died.

-- The way to autosolve the plot in a nick of time which is .....

-- a letter that instantly solved Ingrid's anger......the weakest part of her character was her death because of random letter.

-- Lookey here a wishing star---Here's Anna! (Even though it brought Kristoff too, who should have died!)

-- Instead of talking to Anna, (Which was built up since half way through) the magical macguffin introduced this episode will solve Rumple's deceptions.

-- Unforeseen plot points never mentioned or hinted before

-- Rumple's heart

-- Zelena = Marian

-- Author's existence

-- Snow and David's dark secret

-- Poor word choice

-- They really mean darkness when they say potential for darkness, Having no potential for darkness means you can't ever, ever go dark.

-- Hero =/= I'm good and vice versa

-- Cleave, cleave, cleave.....probably Rumple's only line in the latter half of 4a

-- Stars align...hat...stars align...hat.....Rumple's second line that was said like ten times in the latter half

-- Shipping moments galore, fine, but no character development much outside

-- Snow and David share a brain too, apparently

-- Hook still keeping secrets after like two seasons of learning that's bad. Then.....standing in the background and absolved of all his crimes, what? Give him a monologue!

-- Emma's contrived Elsa moment, contrived written all over it. Dark Emma was heavily foreshadowed that it was beyond obvious.

-- Regina was ok...but her happiness was defined in terms of a man. I completely agree with Zelena. I know they said otherwise, but they didn't SHOW it.

-- Adultery crypt sex...yeah, not going to support it even if there was an actual bed...(There wasn't, just beating hearts and Regina's dead parents....)

-- Robin's character is destroyed every other episode.....and I know you can't have child actors always but he really leaves Roland with Little John all the time!

-- Rumple had motives unknown for much of 4a and was written as a 2-d villain. Rumple for the rest was decent and probably the best wriiten towards the end.

-- Belle is seriously only a prop for Rumple. She can't get any scenes unless she's sleep, looking for the villain, or crying over Rumple  (in some way)

-- Maleficent dragon

-- Character Stupidity was at an all time high this season.

-- Eleven episode arcs are still........rushed. Or could be better if they were .75 seasons than a .50 season.

I liked it overall.

Part 1: Curse 1 and it's undoing aka the better part of the show: 3a = 1 > 2a > 2b

Part 2: The Fanfi...Curse 2: 3b >= 4a >= 4b, but all < = to 2a and >= to 2b

Looking forward to Season 5!