Board Thread:Spoilers!/@comment-5094906-20141119193942/@comment-1894786-20141217132746

Dr. Kangaroo wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Dr. Kangaroo wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: Hmcooper4 wrote: Chameleon-Guy wrote: Hmcooper4 wrote: I think the undead reference is due to the fact that he form in season 2 (the last time we saw referenced to Maleficent) was as a Spectre (or some simlar undead-type form). We know nothing of Maleficent since the 2nd Curse was cast.

My hunch (which is similar to what others have posted) is that she returned to Normal when she was returned to the EF (when Regina dispelled the original Curse). She was subsequently brought back when Snow cast the second curse, though I doubt that she is under the library (at least not at the moment, though it might make a good lair of TQOD when they move back).

In fact, it is possible that TQOD all fled storybrooke right after Zelena was identified as the WIcket Witch. None of them probably wanted anything to do with Zelena, and sought the first opportunity to slip out of town, not realizing that it was, in fact, a one-way trip. There may be other denizens of the EF that managed to get past the Monkey's and cross the town line. Actually that's not possible, during season 3B anyone who would've crossed the town line would have turned into a flying monkey (see: Little John). TQOD arrived on the land without magic before either the first or second curse. Are you sure about that? Because the impression that I had was that the flying monkey's were patrolling the border, and picking off anyone that they could find. Little John was not changed due to crossing the line, but being caught and bit by a flying monkey.

If that is the case, then it would have been easy enough for maleficent, and probably Ursula, to get across the line. Being sorcereresses, they would roast any monkey that got withing firing distance, at least until they were over the border, and by that point the Monkeys may or may not have pursued. Also, the Turkey that John was hunting had no problem stepping across the line, so Maleficent could easily transform to something common, like a raven, and probably fly unnoticed out of town (again, she'd better fly low so that she can gracefully crash when she runs out of the sphere of magic and changes back). and Ursula can navigate the sea routes with ease, and these were probably not guarded by monkeys.

Although, I suppose they could have also laid low until Zelena was defeated, and then made a hasty retreat before Elsa and Ingrid closed off the town. I think Maleficent is still in SB under the library. As for Cruella and Ursula, I think they are not it SB but I don't think they chose to leave the town willingly. I mean, Ursula is an aquarium worker in NY, not exactly the dream job for a sea witch. Actually, it kind of is. LOL She comes from an aquatic world. It's what she knows. Of course she'd end up working with her loyal subjects. I meant more as far as status. A blue collar aquarium worker is not what the diva we saw in the EF would aspire to be. It's beneath her. It's better for her than having a sushi restaurant...XD Oh, gosh. I just realized... Cruella's probably a veterinarian or something. I was expecting her to be a fashion designer like her original incarnation. Well, they're filming in New York. She might turn out to be a fashion designer. But another theory: Sincs Ursula still kinda rules the creatures of the deep (in the aquarium) maybe LWM Cruella is some kind of poacher? A poacher in NYC? She's probably a dog catcher.