Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4519633-20141022032431/@comment-28211584-20160529005713

Boobfairy wrote: Just going by what's canon and not speculation and ignoring Wonderland characters:

1. The gods- Hades, Poseidon, Zeus, Ursula (goddess), and Rumple with the power of all DO's-shown by the fact that Rumple was prepared to fight Hades when they first met, and Hades was unwilling to fight him directly during any confrontation

2. Merlin-able to beat Dark One Emma and canonically the most powerful sorcerer.

3. Dark One Emma, Peter Pan (stated that she's more powerful than Rumple and the previous DOs presumably because she already had magic beforehand) and Peter Pan, despite his lack of real accomplishments, he was said to be more powerful than Rumple during S3

4. Rumplestiltskin before 5A and all previous Dark Ones (Nimue, Zoso, Hook, as shown by Emma knocking him out with her magic when they were both DO's)

5. Zelena with pendant- not as powerful as a Dark One, but more powerful than Blue, as shown when the fairies told Grumpy that she was too powerful to beat. She was much stronger than Regina, though. She was even able to banish people across realms with a wave of her hand, which I doubt Rumple could even do. In S3 she had a strange weakness to light magic that disappeared in later seasons, so we can assume this was just plot contrivance to give them a reason to recast the curse. Otherwise, she was stronger than Emma.

6. Blue Fairy- Johanna and Morraine both say she's super powerful, but we haven't seen her do much for plot reasons. She's not as powerful as Rumple was because the hat was able to hold her but couldn't contain the power of the Dark One, and she was unable to break his protection spell in S2. She was however, able to pose a threat to non-pendant Zelena in S5 and had some extreme powers, like making people immortal (Jiminy) and seeing the future (knew that somehow Emma would discover "their story" one day (3x11) and knew that Emma and Hook were time-traveling. Problem is she can't do anything without her wand, which explains the times in S3 and S4 she was easily defeated.

7. Emma, Pendantless Zelena, Ingrid- Emma is the savior and has been established as stronger than Regina in terms of raw power (the mirror magic thing). Zelena was a prodigy and naturally knew how to use magic, and Rumple said she's more powerful. She's subdued Regina several times without her pendant. The fact that Emma was struggling to break her protection spell, although it's implied Emma would've broken it eventually, shows that they're about the same now. Although Zelena "defeated" Emma, Emma said she wasn't trying to hurt Zelena during that fight. And Ingrid was just inexplicably powerful for plot reasons, as Emma was unable to defeat her alone.

8.  The Apprentice, the Dragon -The Dragon is mysterious and powerful, but, like Blue and the Apprentice, he doesn't really use magic to fight. He can use magic to gaze across realms, which Regina couldn't do, and he even tried to open a portal, which Regina couldn't even attempt without the help of a magic item. He didn't attempt to defend himself from Tamara or Regina, though he was powerful enough to survive somehow. The Apprentice is in the same boat; he must be pretty powerful as Merlin's apprentice. He's more powerful than Regina since he could always use his wand, which Regina couldn't at first.

9. Cora- Rumple said she's weaker than Zelena and she was defeated by Emma's light magic at the lake. However, she seems stronger than Regina because she knew more spells (shapeshifting, etc.) Also Regina was afraid of her coming to Storybrooke back in S2 and implied that Cora would defeat her. She almost defeated Rumple at some point, and when she escaped Wonderland Regina "didn't have enough power to push" her back through the mirror.

10. Regina, Glinda, Maleficent- it was established in S1 and through dialogue in S3 that she's much stronger than your average "person with magic," but she's clearly weaker than those higher in the list. Regina and Maleficent are on par with each other, each defeating each other once. Glinda, with her pendant, is also in the same category of "stronger than average but not born with some special power" as she was still weaker than Zelena even before she got her pendant.

11. The Witch (Brave), Elsa- People with "average" strength. The Witch was "outwitched" and blackmailed by a pendantless Zelena, suggesting she's not in the same league as Regina, Zelena, and Cora. She doesn't do as much with her magic, using it more as a business; she's more clever than powerful. Elsa does okay, but her magic is limited to ice magic. She's not too useful in a fight, as we see her being defeated by the magicless Hans and his brothers, as opposed to Regina who would just knock them all out or destroy them with fireballs.

12. Tinkerbell, Nova, Fairy Godmother, the Blind Witch- all seem to be your average magic users. Fairy Godmother was easily blown up by Rumple, and Blue said that Regina is dangerous to ordinary fairies like Tinkerbell. The Blind Witch was said by Regina to be not very good at magic, so I group her in here.

12. Cruella, Lily, the Seer- people with incomplete magic who can really only do one thing.

I didn't include genies because their magic really comes from the lamp, as they're powerless without it. Phew. gets to be funny so wrong that your list is and the way you handle the information to put the characters where you want.But for not had complaints will list all (at least try because they are many) errors in your list.

1 rumple with the power of all dark ones is nowhere near the level of the gods, gods are immortal (if only the crystal can kill them), rumble can be killed by the dagger, the crystal, Excalibur, the arrows that hades did. In addition  the power of the dark ones came by the gods (the cup from gods which  merlin  drank and gained his powers) gods are theoretically omnipotent and even rumble has its limits

2.Emma was not the dark one more powerful because she does not use light magic when she turns dark one, she was at the same level as everyone else (taking into account her low knowledge of magic) and peter pan is not more powerful than dark ones, they could kill him only to die in the process (even I still believe in the fact that rumple could not kill pan without dying, not because pan was more powerful but because he was his father)

3.this is one of the most hilarious parts, I think you are one resentful fan since the first season where they thought the blue was as powerful as the rumple but actually find it nowhere near and not to lose faith you guys create theories and ideas abaout her do not show her power, but deep down they know that is not true. But facing directly in because she could not be there, first characters without importance saying that others are super powerful does not say anything, (regina says that she and rumple are the most powerful wizards of all time, and we know that is not true and looks that she is a major character), and even though she was powerful not even come close to the other in this list (and falls between us in the eyes of a nanny and a child any magician is powerful), she failed to break the spell protection in S2, but cora alone  could, tried to defeat regina blindsided in S2 with her wand but was stopped by the same and got no reaction and was unable to use a cheap telekinesis to prevent hook  to imprisons her in hat.hook lived threatening rumble, it means that he is more powerful than the rumple ?? (I will not even talk about the letter he wrote to cora talking zelena be the most powerful sorceress he has found, to list more a blue reason not be that everything you say) I think it's enough.

4. today emma is not on the same level as Zelena, who beat  her easily a few ep ago, the same talk about ingrid rumble says in his letter to cora that zelena is the most powerful sorceress he has foundn, this before  zelena use  her pendant and after having known ingrid. I would REALLY like  you shows me one scene abaut zelena without your pendant beating regina (scene that does not exist, because zelena without your pendant is being shown in this season at the same level of power that regina, which ironically in this season are beating zelena several times and she has no reaction)

5. How you said, he TRIED  to open a portal and failed, regina , zelena and any other mage  without proper knowledge can try also but wont achieve without a magic item, this is not done any of .not can give me that he did not try to defend himself, he intimated tamara  and was ready to kill her only that he did not expect her to be faster and fall him asleep, already regina ,he saw and stayed with fEAR, and could not defend himself. Regina can not use the wand because she did not believe in herself ,not because she was unable this was explained in the series.

6.cora, regina and zelena are at the same level of power, and only see the ep "sisters" and look at what was said on the topic earlier by several people forum, I wonder where it was said that Regina had not enough power to sulk cora again, what was said, was that she had no power to send cora back alone, and cora could not go back to alone EF, she had to use the mirror magic, and as rumble  could not crossed between kingdoms  he used the hat of hatter. do not forget that regina could managed to break  cora magic and still push her trough the mirror, as well as cora was afraid to fight with regina  after her learn to use her magic

7.Regina born with magic, as evidenced by the series, it seems that you do not see the show, and maleficent was defeated by regina and surprised her in S4, and glinda is not even close to the level of 2, as Regina could zelena defeat and beat her it a few times already, glinda was said to be unable to do