Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4467206-20161205063902/@comment-24386552-20161228160805

Hmcooper4 wrote: And I will say that, in Pan's Defense, he wasn't always villianous. When we saw him in "Good Form", he was coridal and not rude to Killian and Liam when they arrived. He didn't interfere with them, and he didn't hinder them from departing. plus he showed Killian the water that would save his brother. He did kinda forget to mention the exact nature of the cost, but I don't see that as a villain-like action, Liam brought the outcome on himself, Pan did nothing to cause what happened.

Point is that Pan was mostly just chaotic, not necessarily all evil, except for when he was trying to find the Heart of the Truest believer. Killing (or at least attempting to kill) his own great grandson definitly pushes him over the line to the villain column, and it does without much sympathy, as what Pan experienced was a result of HIS actions. I'm still surprised in the episode where Liam returned, how his first death wasn't even mentioned. Or at least how stubborn/dumb Liam was for straight-up killing himself. Even if it was accidental.

I also agree on Pan being chaotic evil, under a degree of control. Even when Regina beat him (One of her best moments in the series), he was so desperate as his relative control was lost, that he switched bodies with Henry. And I think the final nail in the coffin for snuffing out any real sympathy for him before his satisfying defeat/death, was his last speech to Rumple. How Rumple destroyed HIS dreams. It sure made Cora giving Zelena up for her own best chance, look like rainbow kisses and unicorn stickers.

I still don't know what Pan's purpose was in S5, but I guess now we might have a storyline for him again.

Also about Milah, I didn't feel for her the first time. One, because this was a repeat of Regina's tragedy and where Daniel didn't warrant his death, Milah did when she told her husband (Who was The Dark One) she never loved him. Two, because she abandoned Bae and never came back. However, The Devil's Due did change my view a bit on her. Poverty is horrible. Cora's backstory very much showed that in The Miller's Daughter. It also didn't help when the townspeople looked down on them. Milah's actions still weren't the greatest, but she didn't want to be tied down or settle for crap. And the present day scenes where she clearly did regret not being there for Bae and that he was her unfinished business, did make me feel for her when Rumple threw her into the river.

I still hope some day, we get to see the souls escaping and that being like the last cliffhanger of the penultimate season or something.