Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-28162607-20170103120839/@comment-28162607-20170106151011

CoolDudeAl wrote: Aine1989 wrote: So, you're basically spreading hate about a couple and a part of the fandom by being really rude against a character? And, at the same time, you don't seem to see the problems with CS love story?

1. Why are you bringing CS into this? If you can't protect your fave without bringing in another character, you have already lost. 2. This actually started as a response to someone else I just made a new thread to avoid clogging the old one up 3. If there can be anti cs threads I see no reason why I can't have this one.

If you have to make up ages, you have lost, clearly.

Guess it tells us a lot about many things ^^

Emma was 17, when she ended up being pregnant by Neal. Plus; there is no need to pretend wrong things because you are not happy by this part of Emma's life. Neal did play of Emma, they both fall in love, and they were truly in love. That's clearly the message of the show, and what happened in the series. Henry was born from two people who were in love in their time. Love. Family. Hope.

Emma was sixteen, as I have shown evidence for, and was groomed by an adult man. I am not happy with this part of Emma's life-she was sexually abused by a man who took advantage of her. Good for them, they were in love. Doesn't change the fact that he saw a teenager and proceeded to ask her out, try to make a future with her then had unprotected sex with her. I am uncomfortable with the fact that the show is portraying this as cute when it should be saying to young girls that if an adult tries to hook up with you then you should get help.

'''She was not 16, as we have all pointed out mulitple times. She was 17. If your just going to make things up, I can too. "Well, Neal was 14 when he went to Neverland, and we never confirmed he aged, so who is the real predator here?" Also, if young girls (which to me is like 5 - 10) are compairing themselves to a 16 year old, they have bigger issues than this show. Finally, stop making it like Neal was some 45 year old pervert going after a 12 year old. Emma was 17, Neal was like 22. That is very similar age wise.'''

And that's not really by twisting the events or facts as you want them, that it'll change something to this message. So yeah, if your point was just to spread hate against one character and one possible part of the fans (because yeah, just the title of the tumblr shows us that), I don't think it is a good reason to start a discussion.

What am I twisting exactly? I am stating canon. As I stated at the start (did anyone read that?) this was in response to someone else and I made another thread to avoid clogging up the other one with stuff that wasn't relevant.

'''Did you read what we wrote? And what your stating is not canon. Canon is she was 17 when Henry was concieved and 18 when she gave birth to him. On that note, Henry's canon birthday is August 15. Any oddities with the dates is just because the writers suck at math. The canon is what I just stated.''' Comments in bold above. 1. Except I am not making up ages. Stating Henry's birthday in one episode (which the writers shoved in for a Lost reference) and then actually having him turn 11 in a completely different month are two different things.

Canon is Henry turned 11 in March/April. Maths puts Emma at 16 when she got pregnant.

Canon is Neal was 23 (at the youngest). We have canon proof of his age (the wanted poster).

Canon is Neal, an adult, went after a teenage girl (a child). Look at the manips I've linked in here.

When did I mention 5-10 year olds? When I said "young girls" I meant teenagers.