Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20170429134340/@comment-31828520-20170514232521

Zalvukalic wrote: DSP88 wrote: DracoWombat wrote: DSP88 wrote: DracoWombat wrote: KnocknickKnock wrote: DracoWombat wrote: KnocknickKnock wrote: Eskaver wrote: Yeah, it's sort of hard with Once. My theory is raw power sort of is standard, but skill changes how it is used.

I usually don't include Ingrid and Elsa because they can practially freeze the whole town with a wave of hand or a severe blizzard. Everybody else has less range. Anything Emma did with them, I'd label as Emma not knowing how to utilize her raw power properly. In season 4, she just learned her light pulse, so her not defeating Elsa's snowman means very little to me.

What I do know is Raw power was mentioned with "Seeing across worlds via mirror magic". Zelena and Emma could, when Regina couldn't. Could she now? I don't know. But in that only known case (besides random portal-making), it's hard to tell.

If everyone could do the same thing and same subject, we'd be better off. Once upon a time does need to better define thier characters power levels but as it currently stands Emma is below Regina in power. Also it was confirmed that Regina's light magic is stronger than Zeleena with the Pendant. Thus with by association Regina would be able to do everything Zeleena could do if not more.

1. Regina: Most powerful light magic and a powerful practioner of Dark magic.

2. Zeleena with Pendant: Below Regina because her light magic bested Zeleena.

3. Emma/Zeleena(With Magic): Born with exceptional power.

People don't give Regina enough Credit for her power. Mind You Regina was able to Stop this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxKWpFQe6ms&t=139s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKNEeXoUKT4

Also this Regina wasn't even at full power. She had trouble jump starting her magic again in Storybrooke about3 episodes earlier and Rumple confirms that Regina is nowhere near what she was when she was the Evil Queen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5tJKoVso44

In this same scene he confirms that the Evil Queen was his best student. Thus the note wasn't about Zeleena but Regina.

The best student line is about compliance: Rumpel's four students are Cora, Regina, Zelena and Trish. Trish died, Cora betrayed him and Zelena defected. Regina was the one that was loyal and stuck around. Thus she's the best student. It wasn't about compliance but skill and power. Cora betraying him has nothing to do with how good of a student she was. She still trained with him after she ripped her heart out. He still trained Zeleena and thus Zeleena was still his student.

Also it was pretty much proven The Evil Queen was the better student than Zeleena when Zeleena couldn't break the Evil Queen spells.

You want me to pull a list of all times Zelena proved better than Regina at magic? Because one battle where the EQ beats Zelena is irrelevant. Battles involve more than just power.

RUmpelstiltskin takes students for them to cast his curse. That's their purpose. Cora and Zelena didn't fulfill their purpose, so they're no good to Rumpel. It's not AP mathematics. Actually I would. But you can't use any instance where Zelena had her pendant. Zelena may be stronger than Regina but they are in fact very close to one another in skill. Zelena was only much stronger than Regina in 3B because of her pendant. Without the pendant I think it's really a 50/50 shot of who wins a battle between the two. ''This isn't about skill. ''This is about raw power. Skill/Raw Power. The fact is Zelena only won the encounters in 3B because of her pendant. It's a known fact that Zelena is not as powerful without her pendant. It's also a fact that the one encounter that we've had between Regina and Zelena since Zelena lost her pendant was won by Regina/EQ. Then why did Rumple say Zelena is more powerfull, when she didn't have the pendant yet. Where did I EVER say that Zelena wasn't more powerful than Regina? All I've ever said is that without Zelena wearing the pendant the two are close to the same. I've never said Regina is more powerful.