Board Thread:Spoilers!/@comment-1916997-20160117070033/@comment-25926288-20160401184634

Farerb wrote: Bot of Solitude wrote: It's not a kid's show, and has never been pushed as such (and by that I mean ABC, the creators and writers, etc, have never claimed it was a kid's show or given that implication). ABC does not air children's programming in primetime. Sounds like your examples don't realize that, or assumed "Fairytales = for kids!" which we know is patently false. I never said "fairytales = kids", I don't even think that "Disney = kids". Season 1 was not aimed for children, but like it or not they dumbed the show down and stripped every complexity away. In season 1 characters actually delt with real human conflicts that can't be fixed by bolts of purple light, it delt with relatable conflicts and complicated relashionships, while season 5 everything is fixed by dues ex machina loophole, characters rarely have mature dialogues, the romances are shallow and there's magic everywhere - that's what makes it immature, not the fairytale part and not even the Disney part. Immature isn't the right word. The show has become plot-driven and plot-focused, but that doesn't change it's designation of audience. (Plus, that's sort of insulting the kids that actually like developing characters).

So, in essence, you problem is how much "Plot" the show has become over "Characters", but that is tangential to even this tangential conversation. That's a topic for another thread XD (oh and loopholes aren't deus ex mahina)