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CoolDudeAl wrote: Eskaver wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: ChocolatEyes613 wrote: NickyHelp wrote:

CoolDudeAl wrote: Good, the fans at the NJ con did their job then. I get Sean got burned, but I hated him saying he didn't see himself coming back to the show. I still think Robin will play into something important in a flashback, and without Sean coming back it would be difficult, although I guess we could have had Robin's disguised form come back, if he was avalible. What disguised form? Tom Ellis.... who is the star of Fox's Lucifer.

To @CoolDudeAl: Sean Maguire was very clear, as to why he does not return to shows. It had nothing to do with OUaT, since he prefers to move forward with new projects. There is no reason to hate him, because of how he deals with his career. I didn't say I hate the actor, I hated what he said. Furthurmore, it is still a selfish way of dealing with things. As an actor, he is a playing piece in part of the creator's story. If he's asked to come back, he shouldn't say "no", just because he's moved on from playing that character. He's justified in my eyes. He pretty much uprooted his life (moved his family) when recieving word that he would be a "series regular". It is on the writers to tell people what is in store for the character.

My short view:

Sometime in May (probably), Sean, after recurring frequently, gets an upgrade. He moves his family, etc.

Season 5 filming starts in July and all the way up to the holidays. Sean has played a rather small part in the season thus far. But to be fair, so did Rebecca.

After the holidays (probably spent with his family that he moved for this job), A&E tell him that he will be "killed" off. Sean then plays a very insignificant role in the early part of 5b, then not seen during the middle, and then swiftly relevant and killed off after returning to filming.

Now, I'm likely wrong about somethings and I don't know all the details, but I think he's justified in being mad. Especially since even he sees that these writers killed off hm without regards to his children. Sean goes "What about the children?" while the writers go "What about Regina? What children?" Even in interviews with seeing a Robin backstory and not going forward with it should be frustrating.

He's an actor, but he's a person too. If he doesn't want to return, then it's his choice. You can't tell Sean to "do your job" when:

1. He doesn't work for them.

2. He has free will.

3. Adam and Eddy's realm of influence is small and they should have thought ahead of time and should have done a better job at dealing with this.

If I get a job which isn't what I'd like it to be, then gets axed, I'm not going to go back and work for those people, even if they asked and even if I was an important part in some business process, just because someone says I should return.

Side-note: I don't think he is saying he won't return, but that he has other prioities on the table, just like any actor should. Sean did get burned a bit, and has a right to be mad. However, this is part of the job of an actor who works on television, it is not like Sean was specifically targeted. He made a blanket statement that he has never come back to reprise a role once he is written off or whatever, because he feels he is done with that role and has moved on, and my point is that is a selfish way of thinking. It is not his place to say, "well, I feel like we've explored that character fully, so I'm over it". And this is also damaging to his career to say so. For example, if I was a writer for a tv show, I would not want to have him cast on the show, because I wouldn't want to have to worry that if I killed his character off or wrote off his character, that he wouldn't come back later to reprise the role. Hopefully, Sean realizes why what he is saying is not smart, and comes back to Once at some point, when Adam and Eddy have something important for Robin to do (assumably in a flashback). He hasn't said, "I hate the show. I will never come back to this piece of crap." He said he feels like his role is complete. He has a wife and child to care for. His needs are more important than some minute paycheck. If he gets a job elsewhere, he's prioritze that over Once and it's okay.

It's not really damaging to his career at all. I don't think he was anything special before and I don't think potential hires are going to look at one random interview that seems to be blown out of proportion.

He can offer his opinion that "he feels that we've fully explored that character" because he's a human being whose got the right to think for himself. You think otherwise, fine, but you can't slam someone for giving their opinion.

And if you were a writer for another show, you probably wouldn't even knnow about a random interview from a low level actor.

What he said isn't savvy, but if he doesn't want to return that is his choice. The only one being selfish is---

Back on topic, I think he will not return simply because the writers "ended" his character, shafted his first kid off to never be seen again, and there will never be too much "new" to squeeze in a Robin flashback. Robin being the poorly written character lies solely on the writers, nothing more.