Board Thread:Spoilers!/@comment-2153169-20151029202955/@comment-1916997-20151031152229

Arctucrus wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: ChocolatEyes613 wrote: CadoDoan wrote: I don't think 4B was a mess. I do know that this underworld thing is going to be a crap. I mean this once upon a time. Fairytales and legends. Not greek gods and their complex relationships. Now I am even considering to quit the show. The show is getting more and more ridicilous. God knows what nonsense will present in Season 6 If you want to quit watching, go right ahead.... no one is stopping you.

Except, that Greek mythology was woven into the fabric of OUaT since day 1. Prince Charming battled a siren in S1, while Snow White killed Medusa in S3. We were even intoduced to Poseidon the Lord of the Seas, last season. OUaT is about modernizing fairytales and legends, by giving these classic charaters depth and complex realationships. It does not get more classic and complex, than Greek mythology.

Stop assuming that we are only going to see the Underworld. That is probably just the bridge between the two arcs. The overall theme of S5 seems to be, the unpayed price of magic. Similar, to how S4  had Operation Mongoose.

The only dead character that was confirmed, for an episode was Cora. She has made an appearance in every season, thus far. So it should not come as a surprised, that she would reappear in the 100th episode. Thank you for this. I don't understand why a lot of people are freaking out over this, when it is one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show. It appeared even earlier than Charming and the Siren, with King Midas in 106. If people didn't see Greek Myths coming from a mile away, I don't know what to tell them. People "freaking out over it" and it being "one of the earliest confirmed stories on the show" are not mutually exclusive.

Of course we saw it coming from a mile away, we're not stupid. We just feel that it's very shoehorned into the show, that it doesn't fit, that these things don't mix, that the stories ONCE adverts itself to have are entirely different from a freaking Mythology, etc. And a lot of us have felt this way from the beginning.

For me, King Midas and his storyline was the only storyline/character that didn't feel absolutely shoehorned in. It fits in with traditional "classic stories," like the rest of what's on the show. But everything else has felt terribly shoehorned in to me -- like it doesn't fit. A show about fairy tales and other classic stories, if you ask me, definitely does not need Gods and Demi-Gods and the like on it, and considering that that's like 90% of Greek Mythology, it simply doesn't fit. That's just my opinion.

Now, as far as having seen them "coming a mile away," as you said, again, me personally, of course I always had the thought in the back of my mind that this story was, indeed, yes, very possibly something that could come down the line. That doesn't stop me, however, from hoping that they don't do it, simply because it doesn't feel right to me.

I've kept up with the show thus far because I've largely/overall enjoyed it, and because the Greek Myths haven't been literally everywhere and all up in my face like they would be with a Greek Myths arc. Now that that's coming (or seems to be), however, for the first time, I'm seriously beginning to consider stopping keeping up with the show.

Gods and Demigods would just add way, way too much power to the show in a very condensed set of characters. In other words, there's individuals coming on with too much individual power. This seriously unbalances everything, and kind of cheapens every arc that's come so far that has had to do with magic, because now there's going to be characters that could just undo everything or whatever with the lift of a finger.

That's just one of many reasons I don't like the idea.

But anyways, I think I'm rambling. I hope I've gotten my point across.

OH. One other thing -- And I've said all this without adding on what everyone else has said; Like how every time we get new characters, we've been desensitized to not invest in them, because once their story is over, they most likely won't show up again; Or how 4B was an absolute disaster and this seems to be following that path; Or how 4A will turn out to be arguably the only thing that felt more shoehorned into the show than this, and how badly that turned out; Or any comment about Disney and how the show is venturing too far into Disneyland (no pun intended) by adapting too many of the classic Disney stories as they are into the show, when originally the entire point of the show was to retell these classic stories in a different, fun, creative, and all-inclusive manner.

So. Tl;dr It's not that we didn't see it coming, but yes we are freaking out anyways. The two aren't mutually exclusive. This arc has "TERRIBLE IDEA" written all over it in our opinion, and those're the reasons why.

Feel like I'm forgetting something now but oh well, if it comes back to me I'll add it. So I see two major points of potential problems, and I have rebuttals to both of them (and if you've followed me long enough on here, you should have also seen that coming from a mile away XD).

Point 1: "Greek Mythology doesn't fit because it adds overpowered characters to the show." First off, I think everyone needs to remember Greek gods and goddesses are not at the same power level as something like the Christian God, and are more along the lines of powerful magic users. For that reason, I don't think any of them will be more powerful than Merlin, Blue, and The Dark One. They may be immortal or near immortal, but even that is not excusive to them as Merlin, Blue, The Dark One, and anyone who goes to Neverland seem not to age. This goes to another point, the Greek gods and goddesses may be portrayed as even weaker than they were in the Greek Myths. So far we saw Posiden, and think about it, he was using his daughter's singing to kill sailors and he could not defeat a mortal pirate. Yet he still called himself a deity, so we should assume he is the Greek god Posiden. Will his fellow Greek gods be more powerful then him, I doubt it, as Posiden is usually one of the more powerful gods. Finally, just in case the power level of certain gods does go higher, I'd like to point out as a fantasy story goes on, the enimies tend to get more god-like and powerful, sometimes with the final enemy being some sort of deity, so it would not be wrong for more powerful enimies to be introduced the further we go on the show.

Point 2: "I don't like how they keep introducing new characters, only to never be seen after the arc is over." This is a more general problem with the show, as people would feel this way weather we were getting a Greek Myth arc, a Jungle Book arc, an Agrabah arc, or a LWC arc, but it is a valid criticism. However, I feel that it may not be as true as we think, and that in fact only the Frozen characters will not appear again. I think part of the problem is that many of the characters have not had time to reappear in a flashback (or assuming the Underworld arc is indeed coming up, as a spirit), even though they are intended to be. I think Pan, Ingrid, and Cruella are all intended to appear again at some point even though they are dead. I also think characters like Rupunzel, Ursula, and Glinda are intended to appear again. Finally, I think Mal (a character who I would like to point out was actually reappearing in 4B) is intended to appear again. Part of the problem with the reaccuring guest stars is that they need to appear where it would actually make sense in the plot, but the actors are often busy with other projects. Adam and Eddy are very smart, that they keep very good relations with the actors, and are therefore able to get them to come back. Part of this is they know to respect the actors other commitments though, which means that they don't always get the actors back where they maybe would have liked them. At any rate, I think we are being unfair in saying we see characters for on arc, and then never again, when I think we just haven't seen them reappear yet.

So there are my thoughts, feel free to weigh in on them.