Thread:JesseJane/@comment-91424-20140505182757/@comment-4839682-20140508230730

Alright, don't have a whole like of time at the moment (I do have a life ouside of the wiki, please forgive if I don't reply as soon as you want, but the fact that you want to discuss each bullet takes quite a bit of time), but here's what I disagree with from the number lis and why they're not references. (I would have appreciated it if you didn't repeat things XD)


 * Henry jokingly recites the his fake address as, "44 Not-Telling-You Street".("Pilot")
 * According to Emma, Boston is 4 hours away from Storybrooke by driving. -- Boston IS four hours from central Maine. This is not a random number, and is not a reference.
 * According to Kathryn's phone records, Storybrooke's zip code is 04815, a combination of 4, 8 and 15. -- This is not a reference. Storybrooke's zip code is 04815 because that's the proper sequence for Maine, but is not actually in use in the United States. It's the same thing shows do with phone numbers. *(That's why they start with 555)
 * When Emma asks August about his woodworking skills, he answers, "Wood shop? Eighth grade?". During the same scene, Mary Margaret remarks, "After a stint behind bars? How tough can a room full of fourth-graders be?" -- I just don't see how this is a reference. Woodshop is taken in *eighth grade* in many US schools. And Henry is in fourth grade. You're trying to use the "fourth grade" to further your point, as if the two numbers make it deliberate, but they can't replace that number with something else. XD
 * When Mulan questions Hook's motives, he answers, "Because you four are far safer company". -- Hook is addressing a group of four. Again, it's not like they could replace that with another number.
 * Mary Margaret's arraignmnent will be held 8:00 A.M. This is spoken during the episode. -- This is not a reference. Most arraignments are held at 8 AM in the US.
 * ''Walsh and Emma have been dating for 8 months.
 * 8 months pass between the flashback sections of the episode. - I disagree with these as well. 8 is a number that occurs naturally, not every occurrence of it is a deliberate reference to an old show.
 * Emma says she was in the Social Services system for 16 years. -- No. She was emancipated at 16, a common practice in some US states.
 * The air shaft is marked "D2". D is the fourth letter of the Latin alphabet, making it number 42. -- No, that makes it D2. This is a common sequencing for air shafts, first a letter, than a number. Every one they've added in my workplace recently has been sequenced this way. Further, it is my opinion that if you have to "figure out/up" to get a Lost Number, (ie, changing letters into numbers or adding numbers together) it's not a deliberate reference. One can pick any number and start adding things together from the show to add up to it. XD

I will concede that this page has kind of been a thorn in my side. (If you'd seen it when it was first created, you'd understand why XD) so I will back off a bit, but let's not get too carried away.