Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26855145-20150804175825/@comment-25758988-20150826014655

Wow! What a complicated and moral filled thread! I read through this discussion and it has really made me think!

I must say the idea that the show is favorsome towards the concept of rape startled me. I really don't think the writers could ever do something so callous. I understand the confusion though and can see where this point first came up in regards Regina and Graham but as far as I was concerned was their relationship rape? No! She never used her magic to sleep with Graham, I think their relationship was written into the curse. Its like putting Charming and Abigal together and having them believe they were married. It would not be rape if those to had sex, which they did. Graham knew in this reality he was in a relationship with Regina.

Although as I am writing this I had a second thought, I do suppose you could describe it all as rape as Regina forced him into a relationship with her. And actually Charming and Abigal was rape in the tecnical sense as they were forced in a relationship. Mmmmm. I guess Regina did it but when she did do it she was not thinking it was rape, I mean maybe that is how she feels a relationship should go when you have as much power as Regina did. If we look at her role models, her parents, Cora dominated Henry, she maipulated him due to the fact she had power. I believe that Regina did actually find the Woodsman attractive and actually wanted a solid relationship with him but took his heart because that what her mother would have done. I mean in Storybrook after Graham discovered his memories she had the potential to use his heart to continue the love affair but she didn't, she choose to kill him rathe then letting him have sex with Emma.

As for the Robin thing. That confused me slightly. How can it be rape if he slept with Marian/Zelena? His only mistake was his sexual encounter with Regina when he found out "Marian" was alive. But I ams still confused how it could ever be described as rape with Marian.

The getting away with crimes is a difficult one to come to terms with. I can see both sides to this problem. Yes on the surface crimes go un-punished, we have Regina comitting mass murder, Charmings whole thing about Lilly, Rumple in general. Punishment though is a very dificult thing to put in place when the crimes are not black and white, use magic, are in other worlds, suspects are sometimes brainwashed or tricked, some victims never stay dead so can punishment really follow such crimes? Yes and no. Power will always be a handy excuse or even a alibi and if you have power you will always find a key to get you out of any locked cell or any other prison. The show needs to create punishment for all the chaos but as I say how can you punish people with power? Can ordinary people such as the Charmings and Hook be held against the same punishment? Its very difficult. I always felt Regina was being made to handle her own misdeeds in her own fight for survial and fighting to be a better person. She knows that she has done a lot of bad things and while she does not mention them I think they play heavily on her heart. Rumple has had to watch his heart go dark and lose his ability to love. That has to be a huge punishment.

Punishment can come in several forms and I think that is the show created punishment that really fits the crime we would have no Regina nor Rumple.

Whether the fact that most of the character are from the enchanted forest that they do not hold the same punishment level that we think they should compared to our world. I mean  they probably do not think their crimes are big enough to worry about because in their world nobody did. Sorry I am probably rambling lol.

Also this show is for teenagers? Wow. How old do I feel now? I am a thirty one year old straight guy and I love this show. Always have and always will. The show to me is defo more faimily oriententated. It always reminds me of a TV version of Lord of the Rings or Narnia. Full of action, magic, romance and comedy, what more could you ask for? :) lol