Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-25926288-20151211170125/@comment-26159109-20160229071802

CoolDudeAl wrote: Farerb wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: Farerb wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: I just find it funny how over the course of this discussion different people pointed out how both Emma and Hook had flaws before they were even together. Doesn't that alone prove that neither Emma or Hook are dragging each other down? They had issues to begin with, so maybe they are perfect for each other. XD  As far as a lot of the other things talked about on here, my response would be this: The vast majority of tv show dramas focus on ships, and children are mostly a non-entity. This is just how the shows work. People like love/sex. People find children boring. So the tv shows do what people like. And what has the most "drama". This is not a Once issue, this is a tv show drama issue. Lastly, I am also confused by the points some of you try to make. Emma and Regina shouldn't have or focus on a love interest? You do know like 95% of the population has or wants a romantic and/or sexual relationship? So I don't see Emma and Regina wanting one to be an issue. Similarly, exactly what scenes do you want to see with Roland, Baby Neal, and Baby Hood? Babies and young children are not that interesting. They eat, they sleep, they poop. Just because we don't have scenes of the characters playing with them in every episode, doesn't mean that it is not happening. It is just not interesting enough to be shown. And if they did show you, you all would be complaining that they wasted our time with a useless Mary Margaret or Regina doing baby talk to Neal or Baby Hood scene, when they could have been doing other things that are more interesting or important. Just something to think about. Finally, I would just like to say that I don't think any of the relationships on this show (or any other for that matter) are heathly to emulate. But that is part of the fun of watching. Seeing what happens with relationships that have flaws. Again, it goes back to what we are watching, a drama. It has to be dramatic. There is a different between characters having flaws and characters being OOC. presenting unhealthy relationship is fine, romanticizing one is not. Why can't a writer romanticize an unhealthy relationship? Creators of fiction have gone a lot farther in romanticizing unhealthly relationships than what's going on with Emma and Hook. Point is, it is the writer's creation, so they can romanticize whatever they want. Along that line of thinking, deeming something "out of character" is you judging a character's actions, and saying "well, if I was writing this, the character wouldn't have acted like that", but again, you are not the writer, so you can't say how a character would act. You can disagree with the writer's choice, but at the end of the day, that was canonly how the character acted, so it must be "in character". I think this is probably why people have so many complaints about their fandoms: they think they know better than the creators how the creator's characters would act. When in reality the truth is simple, this is not their story to tell. When they write their own story, they can decide everything. But until then, they have to accept the hand that was dealt. Actually there is a problem when a writer depicts an abusive unhealthy relationship as a model for "True Love", you don't think there's a much larger impact on young girls that can learn from the show that Hook is the right man for them? Please I get that you drank from the kool-aid and you are unable to have any kind of critical analytic thinking about the show, but please think about what you said right now about presenting a problematic relationship as an ideal relationship.

When people say that a character is OOC, it's because the writers have set personality traits through out the story, when the character acts against those personality traits then they act OOC, not because I think they should've acted diffrently or not. Unlike you, I don't think that the characters should be shells that act according to what's convenient to the story or plot. I don't think a writer should or shouldn't do something, because it may influence a person's actions in real life. If someone is stupid enough to not know the difference between fiction and reality, and end up in an unhealthy relationship because of it, that is their own fault. And if your claim is that a girl is not old enough to know the difference, than I feel she shouldn't be watching the show in the first place.

So you've never come across someone in real life that has acted in a way you thought was out of "their character"? Maybe you have to accept characters (or real people for that matter) aren't preprogramed to only have 3 predetermined personality traits that everything they ever do must adhere to. You really don't think that media shape the way people think?! Well, congratulation for being "smart" enough to realize that the relationship they try to idolize is bad, some people are more influential than that.

Yes, people act OOC, even in real life, but then they get called out on that or get questions that try to understand what's wrong and it usually comes after a life changing event. Back in season 2, when the writers actually cared about the characters and the story they told, Snow acted differently after she killed Cora, but it was acknowledged in the narrative and it was consistent throughout the reminder of the season and wasn't changed from scene to scene.