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Eskaver wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Eskaver wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Johntoxable wrote: The ease with which Zelena tethered Merlin to Excalibur was a little offputting. If such things are that simple, why arn't there hundereds of people floating around tethered to random objects.

The vault of the Dark One business is similarly jarring. I can only think that perhaps Lumiere was either mistaken or that he was fed false information from Zelena about the DO Vault being where the first DO was made. But both those possibilities have their own issues. If Lumiere was mistaken about the vault, then from what is he basing the assumption that it's the birthpace of the first Dark One? If it was Zelena who told him this, the question is why? That little tidbit has no bearing on why Belle and Neal wanted to go there. There's little need to bring it up, really. So no reason for Zelena to cajole Lumeire into announcing this fact. Don't forget that Zelena is the strongest magic user to have ever come into existence. That's been established multiple times. She may not have her pendant anymore (which elevated her to god-like status), but she's still probably on the level of DO Rumple (this episode established that DO Emma is far stronger, probably on the level of Nimue and Merlin).

As for the Vault of the Dark One, I think it's just a literal vault that Nimue created as her hideout. How Ink Monster relates to it all, I don't know.

To me the biggest error in this episode is Merlin being 700 years old and the Dark One being created during Rumple's lifetime. Didn't Zoso say way back in season 1 that he'd been around for centuries? I might have to rewatch, but I'm pretty sure. Zelena isn't that powerful. She's pretty close to being on par with the Apprentice, probably if she had the pendant. As for the DO, I think I made a thread on that. So far, there is no reason for the DO to be weak as it is shown when Nimue's power and immortality should be passed down. But Dark Swan is stronger than DO Rumple (which she told Rumple a few episodes back)

Yeah, Nimue wanted a Jungle paradise flowing with Darkness.

No, Merlin is 1000 years old. It said 1000 years before Arthur, he found the cup. So, the Do was around for about 500 years. (ignore that 200 year error) Zoso was DO for decades, not centuries.

There are apparently about 12 Dark Ones and Rumple was Dark One for about 200 years, Zoso only decades, and the rest amongst the other 200 or so years. Wait, where did it say that? The opening scene only said "a long time ago".

But 500 years would make a lot more sense.

Either way, the Darkness Ink Monster is still left unexplained, as is the Vault. They literally said that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo2zemrjylM

I listen to the script because the 200 year thing was probably a production  error since Merlin said it was 500 years since he drank from the Holy Grail. So, 500 years before Nimue and then 500 (and how ever old Arthur is + 30) years after

The Darkness swirly-swirl is just the Darkness of all the DOs swirling together. That's how you have Dark Rumple there, Dark Nimue there and it's just a collection of their Darkness. That would explain why there was an individual dark blob trying to kill Lancelot. The Dark One contains most of the Darkness, biut always the Nimue darkness when it has powers, but the other Darknesses can be inside or whaever. Still doesn't explain the Vault and the waterfalls of Darkness. Wow, how did I miss that? I think I was too focused on Merlin wandering through desert lol

So then yeah, it still fits the timeline perfectly. They just need to address the error on Twitter.