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Edt997 wrote: Ktmae1234 wrote: Edt997 wrote:

Ktmae1234 wrote:

Edt997 wrote: if emma and hook are true loves then it MUST be that everyother couple that fell in love are true lovers including the couples above.

This is absolute false logic.

how?

It's a fallacy of relevance. It analyzes an argument and and inferring that, since it contains a fallacy, it's conclusion must be true. For example, all cats are animals. Ginger is an animal. Therefore Ginger is a cat.

'''but isn't that basicly what your doing. '''

No, I'm not saying all couples who have fallen in love on the show must have have found TL, you are. I'm talking about three couples. Snow and Charming have established TL. Robin and Regina are soul mates. Then we've got Hook and Emma.

'''i dont believe any of those couples are true lovers i was just useing them as examples of the couples that loved but not true loves. So in theory every couple that falls in love is true love.'''

You can't have it both ways. Either you don't believe they're TL or they must be TL because they fell in love.

'''but you seem to believe that just because emma and emma fell in love it's true love. '''

I've discussed time and time again why I think Hook and Emma found TL when she found out that he traded the Jolly Roger for her. I won't go into it again. But as you say, it's only a belief. S4 will prove me out.

    

Rumble chose revenge over love. That's not TL.

'''are you a writer for the show? if not who are you to directly contradict what the show has stated. even the writers said rumple loved belle. you yourself in the original post said they had true love'''

No, I quite clearly called bullshit on them having TL. Rumble may love her but he doesn't respect her and her continually chooses dark magic over her.\

'''this isn't your show you can't say something isn't what the writers clearly say it is. once again you said rumple and belle was true lovers, what changed? rumple was willing to let her go because he thought she would be better off without him(if you really love them let them go) and die for her. if thats not true love what is? besides he only choose dirk magic over her in the beginning of there relationship and regreted it later.'''

Did you read my original post that started this thread? Then you know I've never thought Rumble and Belle had TL. Yes, they love each other. But like I've said (repeatedly) he choses power over love every time. He lies to her. He chose revenge over her. He doesn't respect her. She refuses to see him for what he really is. They have a dysfunctional relationship. It's far from TL. Again, this was all in my original post.

if we follow your logic hook didn't love emma by going back to the ef and resuming his life as a pirate.

Hook went back to the EF because the of the curse enacted by Peter Pan. He had no choice.

but did he have to become a pirate again?

What would you have him do? Hook was trying to forget Emma. He thought he was never going to see her again. He had a broken heart. If you recall in "The Jolly Roger", he couldn't even be with the bar wench. As soon as he had the chance to be with her, he sold the thing he loved most in the world to get back to her.

'''this is wrong. you speak as if not being able to see emma justifies him being a pirate. no it doesn't. '''

What's wrong with being a pirate? That's part of the man Emma fell in love with.