Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24589671-20141214050534/@comment-1916997-20141217082117

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: Mesmermann wrote:

CoolDudeAl wrote:

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:

CoolDudeAl wrote:

Hmcooper4 wrote:

I personally would not have a problem with a Black Goldilocks. (To me it's just another fairy tale). But I could see how some people might take it wrong casting a black girl in the role of a little girl that breaks into somebody's house, steals their food, breaks their furniture, etc.

Besides, technically speaking, Goldilocks is the villian of that fairytale.

What they need is to bring Rapunzel back and build up her story, and then cast Tiana. And have them as part of the Regular Recurring characters.

I agree so much with bringing back Rapunzel and adding Tiana and make them regular recurring. That along with Mulan would solve their lack of POC problem.

I agree with bringing Rapunzel back. I think the reason why some people disliked the Tower was the same reason some people disliked the Price Of Gold. They took these two, iconic princesses and then got rid of them an episode later. (Ashley at this point is just good for cameos and nothing else) I'm not saying that all the princesses should be main characters like Belle and Snow, but they're Disney princesses. They should be at least part of a major arc. (Ariel in Neverland and presumably the QOD arc, Aurora and Mulan in the Queen of Hearts arc, Ana and Elsa in the Snow Queen arc)

Cinderella, Mulan and Rapunzel need to be brought back for major arcs, Ariel and Aurora are presumably getting much more screentime, Belle and Snow are obviously main characters, Elsa and Anna jutst got done with a massive arc. We're still missing Pocahontas, Jasmine, Merida and Tiana. Aside from Merida, if all three remaining princesses were each given their own arcs, we'd solve the POC problem right quick. I wouldn't hold my breath for Pocahontas (too historical) or Merida (Pixar movie and not actually based on any book plot, not even loosly like Elsa and Anna), but I agree Jasmine and Tiana should be on the show. To historical? They have Black Beard on the show! Black Beard has been used in various fiction works (besides who's saying that EF Black Beard has anything to do with the real life person from our world, Black Beard is only a nickname after all), whereas Disney's Pocahontas story is a (heavily sanitized) biography of her actual life. Therefore, it's not the same. Alice is based off of a real life Alice that Lewis Carroll was said to have had a pedophilic love for, Robin Hood is a historically real person whose life is virtually unknown due to the varying biographical accounts written down, and Mulan is also a historical figure, and whose life was converted into a legend. I think if those three can be featured, then so could Pocahontas. Especially when Blackbeard lived in the 1700's, making him more "recent" than Pocahontas. I agree that it might be culturally sensitive due to obvious reasons, but her being a real life person doesn't really change anything.

Merida is a completely different situation altogether. Despite not being based on any work of literature, she would fit seamlessly into the framework of the show, and not every fairy tale has to be one as old as America, or even written down. A fairy tale is by definition a story that gives a person hope. A story is not by definition something that is written down. I agree that Merida could fit on the show, I just would prefer her not to be. I still stand by my point that Pocahontas will never be on the show, because she is too historical. I mean look at your other examples: Alice was based off a real child, just like Gilderoy Lockhart is based off someone J.K. Rowling really knew, it doesn't mean Alice is not a fictional character, unless your suggesting that this little girl was able to fall down rabbit holes and walk through looking glasses to get into other worlds. And from what I understand Robin Hood and Mulan may be based on historical figures, but we don't have solid proof that they ever were. Besides that, the legends of them, if they were real people, have probably greatly changed the facts of the real person. As for Black Beard, I stand by my point that EF Black Beard is not Edward Teach from our world, but simply a pirate whose nickname is Black Beard, or even his actual name. I mean what would they even do with Pocahontas? Have her make piece between her tribe and some other group of people, but then have the other group of people kill her? Because that's not a legend or a story, that's her actual biography.