Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20160411010044/@comment-25926288-20160411025629

TrumpetofTheSwan wrote: - I guess their point in this episode was what Rumple said: The right thing depends on your perspective. He had a point about Belle being willing to break into Gustan's locker. How can you tell when the ends justify the means? If you think about it (and I'm pretty sure people on here have pointed this out before) the "heros" do questionable stuff like that al the time. They felt justified in it because they were doing it for a greater good. Rumple has always had good goals, but he uses really sleazy methods of achieving them. I think Belle accidentally pushing Gustan into the water was actually a good thing for their relationship. It brought her down from her moral high horse a little bit so they could actually relate to each other on the same level. I think they might have just done the impossible and saved this ship. I don't usually fawn over them as a couple, but it was such a relief when they were hugging at the end and just talking like a normal supportive couple for once. And after all that backsliding. What a mire that was!

- Anyway, I think we got to see a side of Belle's personality in the flashbacks that usually gets overshadowed by Rumple, or any of the other people who push her around. She was so spirited and Emilie was really showing off her acting skills this time. I loved her face when Gustan suddenly appeared behind her when they first met.

- I really feel bad for Zelena now. It was kind of low of Regina to use a guise of sisterly concern to manipulate her into talking about Hades. And why did Zelena reveal that she was Hades' only weakness? I didn't think she was that trusting of them yet. I'm not sure I would even put it past Regina to use her as bait at this point.

- Ok, Hades was acting like a stalker this time. Still shipping them.

- I think this has been discussed recently, but what on earth is the difference between dark and light magic if both could potentially be used for good or evil? What is really Belle's objection to it? It seems almost like an irrational prejudice against anything called "dark". But as we saw with Emma, "dark" does not automatically mean evil. I'm no Star Wars expert, but it seems like the force; it has two sides to it, depending on the person who is wielding it.

Arg! It doesn't even make sense. Is is the person's heart that makes the magic appear dark or light? Is it dangerous for a person with a darkened heart to dabble in magic because they might use it for evil. Maybe when an already evil person shoots magic out of there hand it just happens to look dark, so by definition a good person could never produce "dark magic". On the other hand, it sounds from the way they talk about it like darkness is an independant quality apart from whoever is wielding it. But then on the other hand, whenever they talk about using dark magic, it's being used to do something really bad like murder.

This subject needs a thread of its own. Yes, but that's been an unoffical conversation starter for seasons as I accept that there's no Light or Dark magic because you can do the same things with either of them. I think light magic should really only be Emma;s control over light (like TLKiss wave, fireworks, light, and her light and energy based powers). Otherwise, they are essentially the same. We can't argue the intentions as Rumple just said that you can use dark magic for good and we've seen that many times, but it's never called light magic.