Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26159109-20151221091417/@comment-25926288-20151221132811

12 New York City Serenade:

Like all premieres, it was good. Nothing more.

Unanswered Question: Why did Zelena need Regina's blood?

Answer: To check relations, I guess Zelena didn't want to take any chances. And since we know they get worse with magic in season 5a, I'd take that blood test better than a tear test or something.

313 Witch Hunt:

Same. If you don't really see it thus far, Season 5a and 3b are pretty much similar at the start. It's one of the strongest parts of 3b.

314 The Tower:

I actually think this was the best David episode out of 3, 4, and 5, so far. This actually made me empathize with a person that sort of dwindled off of the sympathy trail in 3a. This gave him actual motives and if anything, David's relationship wasn't neutered like it was with Snow until the next seasons where their relationship is like a parody.

Unanswered Question: Why did Repunzel cry for help only to tell the man who came to help her to leave?

Answer: Perhaps it wasn't her. I have no clue why she wasn't dead because she must have been in their for at least a few weeks to a month or something. Anyhow, I like they didn't insert Disney yet because that was coming in to the show in which it becomes actually worse.

315 Quiet Minds:

Totally agree. Neal was completely out of character to rush to magic to solve his issues. See it would have been fine if Neal wasn't Bae, because it makes no sense. And as we know this "bold storytelling" leaves shipping to grow in strength and pandering, but less so this season (kinda) and then more so in the following ones.

316 It's Not Easy Being Green:

Technically, this is the Western World that they live in as well as the Western Hemisphere. So, punny pun is decent.

Zelena's motives and backstory were meh and Season 5 gave her much stronger motivations, so I can't say 3b did that right. They could have made her jealous in a more sympathetic light.

Unanswered Questions: Why didn't Zelena use the shoes to go to Wonderland and confront the woman who actually abandoned her instead of attacking someone who had nothing to do with it? Why didn't she try to talk with Regina, who might have accepted her and let her live in the palace with her?

Answer: It's a logic quirk the show does. Zelena is the Regina to Regina. So, she has to misplace blame and never confront the actual problem (at least in this season.) Plus, chances are she was afraid and still is afraid to be abandoned again.

317 The Jolly Roger:

Well, if 3b is better in one character's episode in 3a (You know, Neverland and all), it's Hook's. Confirmed to me that Hook cares little about changing and more about himself and what he wants. It has never changed. Hook was never a hardcore villain but more of a decent guy wih an anger problem and largely opportunistic and he is still that way all the way in 5a, so there you go Hook fans! Say Regina hasn't changed and Rumple hasn't changed, but they do loops around Hook who has good acting, a pretty face, but stattic character growth. The love and relationship grew, but Hook hasn't changed much. Perhaps a little less crude and softer.

Unanswered Question: Why would Zelena think that Emma would kiss Hook after her true love died five minutes ago? suddenly everyone forgot Neal ever existed? that lips curse was ridiculous

Answer: Show logic. Time doesn't matter and force-feeding Hook-Emma stuff because they want fans to ignore that the relationship only occured at that time because of Neal's death. I mean, Emma probably would eventually choose Hook, but they never gave her that choice.

318 Bleeding Through:

It wasn't that retconny. I mean technically it is, but I mean without the full blunt of the negative connotation. It was good Regina-Snow stuff.........and that's about it because I'll give it a small bonus on character development because we know they never get to talk like that because cutting scenes in season 4 or it's abouit a man because that's what screams what you love about Regina. (yuck!)

Unanswered Questions: Why didn't Leopold recognize Cora in The Stable Boy? I don't care that says he did and they planned it all along - which is obviously false. Leopold was reasonable. and no reasonable person would mary the daughter of the fruitcake who tried to deceive him in the past. Why didn't Eva told Henry and his father about what Cora did? Why did they portray Eva as being mean when she actually did the right thing by telling Leopold about Cora and her schemes against the throne's succession, which is supposed to be considered treason and punishable by death.

Answer: They obvious don't plan and probably only halfway through an arc and get distracted by something else. If you don't trust her then, why trust her daughter. They could have gone with ---"He didn't remember her." It's completely valid as she never said her name and it has been like 30 years.

319 A Curious Thing:

The episode that doesn't contradict the "Dead is Dead" rule first, because technically it was Quiet Minds. That acting and level of love I am willing to let it slide. They are the fairytale love couple so I can let it slide because of love. Plus, it's sort of the highlight of Snow and David ever since.

Unanswered Questions: Who were the people our heroes killed? why was it never mentioned afterwards? why didn't they feel bad after realizing they killed innocent people? am I the only one that is bothered about that? Sharing a heart - why was it possible? what are the consequences?

Out of sight, out of mind. The show doesn't address the townsfolk problems because it's probably classist. Elite and close friends only do well off and everyone else is expendable. Sharing a heart is fine to me because even though it breaks logic, at least they are the truest of love. Always that suicidal streak, Snow.

320 Kansas:

Wasn't as bad as you think. All of it was Emma growth which was nice, but Hook began to annoy me at this point. Forced Kiss is Forced. Emma was annoying but it was reasonable. Sure she didn't consider everyone else, but it is her selfishness and "thinking about Henry" that at least stayed consistent until season 5a when she got her eyes caught in a hook.

Regina's "light magic" was a deus ex machina and it's up there with wand mechanics of Zeelna's banishment. Just trying to keep up the part where Emma doesn't save the day but gets all the credit because the writers don't watch their own show. Plus, her light magic is never addressed again and it's assumed that it must be an elemental thing that she never accessed, but that whole thing devalued their whole magic system.

321/322 Snow Drifts\There's No Place Like Home:

Haha, I like Regina, but that's a terrible perspective. It was a cool concept that they perfected a bit in the 4 finale, but this was more meh and unnecessary. I rather it all a dream. It's that they brought an innocent woman and made Regina (the woman that killed her) the victim. Marian was the victim, things were never brought up, and she was devalued into someone more victimized than Belle. Hammering home how much Snow and Charming are like Emma and Hook, even though it's totally not even close.