Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20171216015812/@comment-31231929-20171216064740

A lot happened in this episode. It was mostly enjoyable, but suffered a lot with the pacing. I was surprised that the show jumped over Henriella’s relationship, but hopefully they’ll go back and revisit the time before Lucy was born. I wasn’t surprised at the 8 year time jump, it was the easiest explanation for things. The characters on this show apparently don’t age. Gothel and her Coven of 8 is the creepiest thing this show has done. I really liked that the episode had Henriella being parents to Lucy and that Lucy wanted a sword. Regina was the one who cast the curse and she did it because Gothel and Drizella poisoned Henry and he would have died. But apparently you only need the blood of a witch who cast a dark curse to enact another which took care of the heart of the thing you love most problem. That was kind of a weak explanation in my opinion.

I am fairly certain that the curse had a time travel element to it since the set-up looked like a time travel spell and because Hyperion Heights is in 2017 and according to Robin’s age it’s been 25 years since she was born. But Robin grew up in what I think is the New Enchanted Forest, so maybe it hasn’t been 25 years? Idk, the timeline’s always going to be confusing. Speaking of Robin, I loved her introduction. I also loved that Zelena’s farm is called Emerald Acres Farm. Regina’s line about not being there to discuss timelines was very meta. I really want to know how Zelena got her magic back since her loosing it was a pretty big deal in Season 6.

Killian went to Rumple, who turned himself into Imp Rumple (I think) for help with the curse and he gave him a white elephant figurine that would allow him to be with Alice under the curse and then Alice was there and they couldn’t be near each other because of the curse and it was so sad. But Alice had a letter to Robin addressed to “my love” and Killian believes that his daughter and her loves’s True Love will prevail, which gave me all sorts of feelings and Alice and Robin hadn’t had a scene yet. But then they did. And it was so cute and heartbreaking and they paralleled Captain Swan and clung to each other and I probably love them. Scratch that. I do love them.

The episode showed when the Season 6 finale flash forwards took place when Henry took Lucy to what he said was the oldest part of this realm and called it the Original Enchanted Forest. So it seems that the curse affected both the new Enchanted Forest and the Original Enchanted Forest or was that just the oldest part of the New Enchanted Forest? What blasted through the doors in the Season 6 finale was Gothel and her Coven of 8 Witches. Wish Killian giving Ella the white elephant so that she could be with Lucy was so heroic and so Killian-like and I loved it.

Kelly’s introduction was pretty awesome. I loved that she was a spin instructor and that she called her pupils monkeys. Also she’s engaged. The glimpse shown of her wedding dress was pretty, but it wasn’t to my liking. Regina trying to wake Zelena up by telling her about the curse when she thought her memory potion didn’t work was absolutely hilarious. I really enjoyed Regina and Zelena’s interactions in this episode. I really loved the fact that as soon as he heard what happened to Lucy, Henry rushed back to her. I also loved that Jacinda took comfort in him when he arrived. She must have been waiting hours to cry. I really wish the TLK Henry gave Lucy would have worked, but both parties in a TLK have to believe in True Love and Lucy doesn’t believe anymore. But Henry does, the Heart of the Truest Believer is back. This was the first time that both parties having to believe in True Love was brought up, but I’m certain this has always been the case for TLK’s (that and you have to remember the other person). Also, Emma Swan reference! The heroes are stuck in a vey bad place with the curse. If they break it, Henry dies, but if they don’t Lucy does. Rumple seems to think that Anastasia’s the Guardian and she could be, but I don’t think she is. I think that Alice is, or maybe Wish Killian. Whoever the Guardian is, he/she is apparently able to wake Lucy without breaking the curse or something like that.