Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5679696-20160509211306/@comment-24674051-20160510033535

As evidenced by this thread, there is an argument either way as to whether Acheron and the Fiery Pit are both the worse place.

From what we were told, there are 3 states for the headstones. Upright means that they are in the UW with unfinished business. Tipped over means that they moved on to the better place. Cracked means they moved on to the worse place. We never saw Milah's tombstone, nor Gaston's, nor James'. The only one we saw was Auntie Em's, and it was cracked.

Cracked headstone means in worse place. and the last we saw of Aunt Em, she was a puddle of water that got poured into the Acheron (and according to Hades was actually converted to water from Acheron). we don't see her in the fire pit. So it is, I believe, safe to assume that the River is the worse place.

That leaves the question of the Fire Pit. We have not seen the tombstones of any of the people cast into the pit (basically Captain Silver and Blacktooth). So we have no conclusive evidence that the Fire Pit is actually the worse place. Just an assumption.

Now, here is where I have the real problem. Hades said, in Souls of the Departed, that the clock ticks every time a soul moves on. Now, I would personally equivolate moving to the worse place as moving on, just as much as moving to the better place. Yet the clock has only ticked for the souls that we watched move to the better place. so maybe neither the Acheron nor the Pit are the worse place. It's possible that Cruella lied, or just didn't understand how the system works.

Which means that it is conceivable (You keep using that word. I do not think ot means what you think it means) that both acheron and the pit are still a part of the UW. Special parts reserved for the greatest torture. while going to the worst place would involve actually crossing realms (like the better place).

Just my opinion.