Board Thread:Spoilers!/@comment-25926288-20161101150057/@comment-26443838-20161122200509

Eskaver wrote: NickyHelp wrote:

DatNuttyKid wrote: I honestly think Hmcooper's theory is the most likely. We've discussed all the different options for who may have killed Papa Charming and none of them line up for one reason or another, mostly the fact that it would be a letdown after the build-up. What wouldn't be a letdown is to find out that Papa Charming is a coward and a murderer who abandoned his family - which would also give plenty of CaptainCharming bonding from their shared daddy issues without having Hook murder yet another person with little repercussions. Okay suit yourself. But if it were so, we would already have spoilers or reports from places like tvline or EW that would tell of young James appearing already, right when they were filming like how they reported Ruth and Dragon appearing in the last two eps. But so far, there was nothing. That's one of the reasons why this theory wouldn't make sense.

I don't see a thing in common from Hook or Charming for that. Their different. Hook murdered his father and left his half brother an orphan. And for charming, he was much younger which the pirate and old man. David's father was taken from him as well as the redemtion his father would have given (and live a happy life together) if it weren't for his killer. So frankly Hook would know how that feels. And apparently what we learned right now is that Papa Charming was never a coward. He kept his word for his boy until someone robbed it from him. And it looks related to what was spoiled in the interview of Josh. I'm pretty sure it's hard to tell the difference between young David and young James. Besides,

1. They do film somethings in studio.

2. TVLine and EW aren't all knowing entities. They have to do research like most of us (they do have better sources) and likely the child actor would be very minor. For example, it took a long time to figure out who played Nimue.

I agree with the rest. Everyone else on the show lost their father, so Hook and David don't have much  more in common than everyone else. I doubt we'll see young James as well. At best, we might see young David in a brief scene, if this is indeed the entire flashback concerning Papa Charming.

But I rule nothing out as the writers aren't too predictable. I know that EW and TVLine are not always knowing entities, but there is always a reason where they got spoilers, predictions and returned casts from. Most likely it is from interviews, the studio or makers. How else would they have gotten the Returned info of Ruth and Dragon this season like they did with Red and Mulan last season?

Also things from the studio were not the only things kept secret, there is always other outside filming stuff. I mean not everything that was filmed outside were allowed to be given away. I mean last season, we didn't get footage of the filming scene of Hook and he Dark ones deaths.