Board Thread:Rant and Rave/@comment-33386384-20180525212302/@comment-25926288-20180711114221

Aine1989 wrote: Eskaver wrote: Aine1989 wrote: This is a specific issue with 7x18:

Hook said to Rumple "I heard what you did for Alice I owe you a great debt" but honestly... Wasn't all Rumple did take Alice out of danger that he put her in? And it was because of Belle's influence that he decided not to do it. Alice wasn’t in any danger. Hook is talking about Rumple not passing on the power which is her innate role.

And saying that it’s Belle’s influence is like saying it’s the parents’ influence that the child did something. You are reducing agency of his character. It’s not like Hook was there and could read minds. It's less of Hook thanking him for it and more of the narrative treating it like it was some big heroic sacrifice.

I'd argue she was in danger because he was planning on making her immortal, which the show has shown to be a form of cage, or as Rumple called it, a tower.

Rumple is not a child though. He is an adult who should be capable of making independent choices without seeking a reward. He made an independent thought. He saw that the ends don’t justify the means.

Alice was not in danger. She was doing what she was meant to do (as you can tell that Rumple didn’t prompt Alice, she started taking his power automatically.

Hook thanked him because Rumple didn’t do something selfish which is what he was accusing him of earlier in the episode. Rewatch it.

I know everyone has seen Rumple as a character be dragged through dirt, but they did a reasonable episode there and you’re ready things into it.

It’s literally:

Hook “You are going to destroy her life, using her for your selfish goals”

Rumple realizes that her fated role will ruin her life after some inspiration.

Hook “Thank you for doing the right thing. Didn’t expect that.”

There’s nothing else to it. You are rewording Rumple’s plan. His plan was to fulfill the destiny and reunite with Belle. You read it as “Imprison Alice”. Yet, when he clearly sees that as the result, he doesn’t go through with it, and you give him no credit and act as if the show made it a heroic sacrifice (when they didn’t as they saved that for the finale).