Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-34563899-20180202235154/@comment-2153169-20180204163341

Aine1989 wrote: Lady Junky wrote:

Aine1989 wrote: And Rumple made the choice to:

-Ignore Milah's depression

-Make her do the bulk of the housework

-Use Bae to manipulate her into staying in line

-Sign away her chance at having another kid without consulting her

-Demand she come home and do her "womanly duties" while  he refused to do his male ones.

Rumple was the abuser and victims do not have to be nice to their abusers. All your points are just proving how Milah was the abuser.
 * "Ignoring Milah's depression"? She completely destroyed him. Repetitively and from day 1. She started this entire situation. She ended up being depressed cos she was unable to accept Rumple's decision to come back for their son. How is it wrong for a father to want to come back to his son? Especially when his own father abandoned him? She was the not supportive one. And she never ever let a chance to Rumple because of his decision.
 * "Make her do the bulk of the housework"? They were poor. They worked together to try to get a better life. That's not like Rumple was doing nothing. And Milah started to prefer to go to the bar with pirates, leaving Rumple alone with Bae & the house.
 * "Use Bae to manipulate her into staying in line"? So so wrong. He did not "manipulate" her. She was completely neglicting their child. She was leaving him alone at home, while he was still young. Rumple had every right to remind her of her responsabilities as a parent. That's entirely up on her attitude.
 * "Sign away her chance at having another kid without consulting her"? You're absolutely wrong on that one. He did not sign away HER chance, he signed away HIS chance. He promised HIS second-born child; not HER second child. She was free to leave and have a child with another guy. And come on? Really? He did it to save Bae's life! Save his son's life. Can we blame him for that? No, absolutely not. He did what he needed to do. What was Milah's answer to the problem? Kill Fendrake. She asked Rumple to MURDER someone. Rumple found another way, maybe not the best one, but he did. Without killing the guy. Again, perfect example of Milah being abusive. Thank you.
 * "Demand she come home and do her "womanly duties" while he refused to do his male ones"? Refuse to do his "male duties"? Like what? I fail to see where this one come from. The rest of your point is back to your points 2 & 3. And I already explained why you were wrong.

I totally get it: you don't like Rumple. And you hate him. Fine, you're free to. But, let's not act like Rumple has always been the bad one in every relationship he was into (not saying he has never been the bad one). But in this case? Milah was the abuser, and it is so easy to prove it by so many points.

You would never say that Milah did not abuse Rumple, if it was the other way around x)

We see in 5x14 that Milah was doing all thw work while Rumple "Chased butterflies with the boy". He is happy to act like a father when it gets him out of doing work.

saw Rumple had rbought their small child to a crowded tavern filled with pirates, she immediately got up and went to him.

Yes Rumple signed away his second born but do you honestly think Milah could have had a child by another man and not been shamed for it? He was completely tactless when he told her and did not even ask her.

In 2x04 Rumple tells Milah to come back home because "she has responsibilities". Which is code for "go back to the kitchen, woman". He could have told her to come back because he wanted to talk, or expressed anger that Bae could have been hurt, or waited for her to come home, but he didn't. He chose to use sexist language to humiliate her.
 * They showed in other eps that Rumple was also working x) They worked together. Plus, are you implying that taking care of his child is not work? Surely, he would not do it if Milah ever did it herself. Thanks for proving my point again.
 * What he was supposed to do? Leave his child alone at home? Wow, that's so responsible. Would be as worst as Milah. Milah did it, not Rumple. He had every right to remind her of her responsabilities as mom. So yeah, again, thanks for proving another of my point.
 * That's such a false argument. She literally did a fake kidnapping with Hook, she clearly had no care about being shamed or not. She could have just left. Again, Rumple saved their son's life. He was right, Bae would be dead if he did nothing. Apparently, you do not seem to understand the situation: it was that, or Bae died. Don't try to ignore that point. Your point has zero value if you choose to ignore that KEY factor. And again, he gave up HIS child, not Milah's. She could have left.
 * Again, it is funny how you're trying to put wrong facts into one statement x) That's easy to do when you choose to ignore the entire context of the statement. Rumple went at the bar, to ask her to come back home because of Bae. Yes, Milah has responsabilities as mother. She just does not care enough about them. Again, Rumple was right to tell her that. That's not sexist to tell a mother that she has responsabilities with her child. He did not humiliate her, contrary to Milah who immediatly public-shamed Rumple in front of the entire crew.

You just keep showing how Milah was the abuser, how Rumple was the victim in this relationship, and how you're so one-sided in this argument because you hate the character of Rumple.

I stand by what I said: you would never say that Milah did not abuse Rumple, if it was the other way around ^^