Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20160425010026/@comment-32390199-20160425112420

Avatar Beta wrote: Farerb wrote: Eskaver wrote: Farerb wrote: Retcons were shameless this episode. Regina and Zelena meeting, Cora wasn't an abusive mother. That ruined the whole episode for me, but what did I expect at this stage? Are you going to be cheerful about the good things? Just asking. Regina and Zelena meeting wasn't what I liked but there;s nothing wrong with that. It's not a plot hole because it was filled back up and it explains somethings. Just because it wasn't the best secret they could have doesn't mean that it's a RETCON! worthy moment.

And Cora was clearly abusive or did you not see the end of the flashback? Cora is manipulative and pretty callous and it stayed that way at the end of the flashback. Cora is not to blame for what Zelena did to Regina in 3B-4 or whatever Zelena and Regina did to other people. This whole backstory is a contrived way to "redeem" Zelena and I'm tired of that tbh. Cora moving to the good place was a joke, all the horrible things she has done to Regina? to Snow? to Eva? are null and void because she revealed her secret?

I get that people like this episode because Mills women hype, but it doesn't change the fact that it is flawed, and yes they retconned three characters backstories because PLOT and ZELENA REDEEMED and ZELENA AND REGINA RELATIONSHIP THAT WON'T MAKE ANY SENSE and doing a forgetting ex machina doesn't change that it was a retcon. I agree 100% about Cora but the show now seems to opperate on the logic that everyone except Rumple and perhaps Pan can be redeemed, no matter what. I'll admit I'm a biased Rumple fan but it's getting pretty rediculous when they imply Hades of all people is more capable of change than he is. I don't see why Hades wouldn't be able of redemption. Yes he is the big bad of this arc, but he hasn't really done something wrong. He just looks over the Underworld, his domain, and people suddenly come in and ruin that. Every Greek God(dess) is an a-hole and Hades is one of the more justified a-holes.