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Aine1989 wrote: Nightlily wrote: Aine1989 wrote:

Nightlily wrote: Aine1989 wrote: But in the episode Manhattan Henry says he is 11. This takes place roughly two weeks after season 1 ends, so around March/April 2012*. And we know he was not rounding up since Neal was then able to work out that he was his. And the fact Henry was 12 in 3b, which takes place in roughly May 2013, which would not be possible if he was born in August.


 * Season 1 ends really within 2 weeks of Valentine's Day, so late February or early March.

So going by what is established in season 2/3, Henry was 11 in March 2012. So he was born in March 2001. And subtreact 9 months, he was conceived in June/July of 2000, which fits in with A&E's confirmation that Emma and Neal were only together for a summer. This would be 3/4 months before she turned 17.

So yes, A&E messed up and accidentally gave Henry 2 birthdays because they are bad at timelines and suckers for LOST references.

Bow down to my maths skills. How do you know when "Manhattan" takes place, and how do you know that Season One ends within two weeks of Valentine's day? I don't think that was ever stated. Because of the whole "one episode=one day" format the show uses 90% of the time. I honestly never thought you would need it stated, you could just work it out. Pretty much every episode picks up where the last one left off. That is not true. There are many episodes within the show that take place over the course of more than one calendar day. In the first two seasons, for example, the following episodes take place over the course of more than one calendar day:


 * Pilot - two days
 * The Thing You Love Most - two days
 * Snow Falls - at least three days
 * The Price of Gold - two days
 * The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter - two days
 * Desperate Souls - at least four days
 * Fruit of... - at least three days
 * Skin Deep - three days
 * What Happened to Frederick - three days
 * Red-Handed - three days
 * Heart of Darkness - two days
 * The Return - at least two days
 * An Apple... - two days
 * The Crocodile - at least two days
 * Child of the Moon - two days
 * Into the Deep - two days
 * The Cricket Game - at least three days
 * The Outsider - at least three days
 * The Evil Queen - at least two days

Nor is it true that "pretty much every episode picks up where the last one left off". We never know how much time has passed, unless it is stated on-screen or in a title card. S1E9 "True North", for example, takes place one month after Emma came to Storybrooke in "Pilot" (Emma says to to Michael Tillman), not nine eight days. "7:15 PM" takes place at least a few days after the previous episode, according to dialogue between Emma and Regina. S1E11 "Fruit of the..." takes place three weeks after Emma was elected sheriff in S1E8 "Desperate Souls", according to Regina - not three days. S2E7 "Child of the Moon" takes place a few months after Mary Margaret was accused of murdering Kathryn in S1E15 "Red-Handed" (according to David) - not 14 days...

So no, this is all speculation on your part and speculation is not fact. Like I said, you need to let the whole "Emma was 16" thing go. Okay, I concede to that. I have not watched s2 in a while.

However, your theory here is that the curse broke at roughly the end of February, and then from 2x01-2x14 occurs over the course of five months. Even if some episodes take place over more than a day, that is a serious reach.

I never stated that the curse broke at roughly the end of February. It is perfectly possible that the Season One finale takes place several months after Valentine's Day 2012 in "Skin Deep". Kathryn disappeared in "What Happened to Frederick" and returns after a week in "The Stable Boy", according to a title card. "The Return" begins the day after Kathryn was found, but it is never stated how much time passed between "The Return" and the following episode, "The Stranger". In "The Stranger", Mary Margaret goes back to teaching at school and is not entirely implausible that she could have waited several months to do so; she went through a horrible experience, which must have taken quite a toll on her. Also, in "Child of the Moon", David says to Ruby, "A few months ago, everyone thought Mary Margaret was guilty of murder", which suggests that several months have indeed passed since Mary Margaret's ordeal.