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It was left ambiguous. Jefferson said they moved to another land and then Rumple said I needed them to get to that other land. they were vague. We don't even know if Rumple and Jefferson were talking about the same land.

Example:

R: I need to use those slippers to get to a land without magic. (Then Jefferson fails and returns)

J: I heard that the slippers moved on to another land.

R: But I needed those slippers to get to that other land

Could be read both ways if we knew all the context...and they stopped using vague and similar terminology.

I say Kansas is a separate "land" because Walsh and Dorothy both refer to their "land" as Kansas, no United States, or Earth, or anything. I also think that magic green cyclone ripping into all worlds wouldn't make sense because magic shouldn't be that prevalent in a magicless world. I tend to imagine it colorless, but that green cyclone and powerful magic makes me think otherwise.

We cannot be certain that Dorothyand Walsh are from the LWM we know at least. As Jefferson said that there are many worlds where there is no magic. But then magic seems to be in varying levels in certain worlds. Sorry for rambling!

Ambiguous