Board Thread:Rant and Rave/@comment-25733960-20180519054612/@comment-34657163-20180519143742

8Rob wrote: This was a mess boy.... Ugh a huge mess

But this time ABC is to blame I disagree with it being a "huge mess", but agree about ABC being to blame for certain other problems.

The first portion of the episode was fine. Then after Regina/W!Henry's confrontation it all went down

-It wasn't explained how in the world of heck they went back to the future. As far I know Zelena's Time Travel Spell could have been used. That or Regina formed a coven and cast the Dark Curse again. We have to assume what happened. Because they clearly went back to the future somehow. Otherwise Mr. Gold (and the Darkness) would be still there

'''Yeah this bothers me too. Couldn't have been tooo hard to throw in some line like this: "this will bring us back to the future/present, wipe the memories of some of our SB folk..." (like, how does the time travel affect SB folk? It really needed some explanation...or they could have returned to the future/present first, THEN cast the merging curse). '''

-It wasn't explained how Alice got her magic back? Where did she get Maui's Hook from?

'''Alice having magic was weird so I guess the "powers of the Guardian are no more" really just means "no darkness absorption for you today!" Not sure if that means she could have just poofed to SB. For Maui's hook, she could have just found it (I don't think that's really that big–could have been in her assortment of random things). '''

-How did Snow and Charming get into the WishRealm?

Magic bean.

-It wasn't explained how Kelly Zelena fixed her mess with Chad.

(if you're referring to the part where they met in the past and stuff, then yeah) .

-Freaking Pinocchio is a freaking kid again? Huh?

!!!!!!!

-Regina was crowned the Good Queen of all the Realms.... just because. If I heard correctly I think Charming said the people voted for her. Such a election took place, and Regina didn't know.a thing about it. Also, such an event took place and SerumQueen, W!Robin, W!Cora, W!Henry Sr. and W!Queen didn't attend the coronation

'''She might have? But she didn't know she either A. won or B. there would be a coronation. We don't know if W!Cora or W!Henry Sr. exist either, but "Dark OQ" definitely could have been there (W!Queen is dead). '''

-'''Regina literally cursed everyone AGAIN. That woman just doesn't learn a thing'''. So the people of Wonderland, Neverland, Oz, Arendelle, WishRealm, etc... just had to accept Regina's decision of merging all the lands? Just because she wanted to? Who is she to decide such a thing? And we are supposed to believe that they just clapped and voted for her as their queen? Like "yeah, you just destroyed my land and sent me to the LWM. Be my queen please". She literally took the crown from all the other rulers, like Elsa. And what would happen if someone breaks this curse? Will they go back to their lands?

'''To be fair, it brought their land (or a large portion of it) to SB, rather than destroyed it. And it wouldn't return them since the other dark curses breaking didn't have that effect either (probably wouldn't even be considered a curse since it was casted with love-ish). '''

-I didn't know the Dark One could kill himself by taking out his own heart? And why did that affect W!Rumple again? I think they conflated the W!version with the serum doppelgangers. Because killing W!Snow and W!Charming didn't affect the real Snow and Charming. But if Weaver takes its own heart and that destroys W!Rumple, then that means Mr Gold was also destroyed? But then that changed the past? (at that point in the timeline Mr Gold was traveling with Belle and baby Gideon in other realms)

'''!!!!!! (but I don't think it destroyed their 2018/travelling versions, just their future/present). '''

-Why didn't W!Rumple just use the Dagger to control Weaver? The Dark One killed himself and the Dagger wasn't like needed at all? Also, wouldn't part of the Darkness still remain in the W!Excalibur half? In season 5 all the Darkness was concentrated into the Dagger, but that didn't happen in the W!Realm. W!Merlin is still a tree. And W!Excalibur is still in the stone, right?

'''Excalibur doesn't actually have anything tethered to it in the rock. It wasn't until Zelena in S5 did it. We also don't even know if there is a wish Camelot. '''

-And Drizella and Anastasia? Were they left stranded in he NEF in the past? I mean, Gothel is there, Facilier is there, the Candy Killer is there, Tremaine is there. Heck, even Drizella and Anastasia are there as their past selves

This LOL

-So, Rumple just gave W!Hook his heart and it worked? Are they True Love or what was going on there? '''Yes, this was partially explained in "The Guardian". ''' ​​​​​​

Nothing was like explained at all. It was like stuff just kept happening and we had to accept it. (answers in bold)