Talk:Up/@comment-25375217-20171028195704/@comment-2153169-20171028200005

It was a miscarriage. Wikipedia even used this article/discussion with the director of the film as source for the info: http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/07/entertainment/ca-upmontage7

The baby existed. The fact that he died in the film is not relevant there. That baby was a thing, a real thing. So, it counts.

OUAT is reinventing stories, and in their version of Up, Gideon is obviously the baby in question.

At worst, he is an allusion to the baby.