Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4839682-20130126013341/@comment-190.235.45.159-20130211232548

Utter solitude wrote: Your 12 year old example has no place here.

You're assuming Henry was conceived in a state with an age of consent of 18. It's not about being a minor, it's about whatever the age of consent is. For example, the age of consent in Ohio is 16. 16 and 17 year olds can legally consent to have sex with a person of ANY age. As I already explained, if Henry was conceived in Oregon, the one place we KNOW they lived (and they travelled a lot, we know that) Neal would be charged with "Sexual abuse", not RAPE. "Sexual abuse" is the lowest form of Oregon's class of sexual violations, and is usually brought against 16/17 year old girls' boyfriends when daddy decides they don't like them. It's not "statutory rape" in Oregon, and you're assuming we saw EVERY move they made in that episode? They both allude to their frequent moving, Henry could have been conceived anywhere. Oregon is most likely, but the possibility still exists.

There's also the question of whether or not Emma being emancipated has a role. Meaning; since she was an emancipated 17 year old, she is legally an adult. Most states include consenting to sex in that.

Bottom line; she was NOT raped. To keep bringing it up is not appropriate. Rape is a violent/coercive act against ones will or against a child. A 17 year old is not truly a child, and Emma was emancipated anyway. Once again, DO NOT DISCUSS SUCH THINGS HERE, IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE. Next time I see you bringing this up you will be blocked. Why you brought it up in the first place is beyond me.

I gave that example because that user was saying that it's okay as long as you give your consent something we all know it's not true.

In the state of Ohio it'd be 16 but not in Oregon, and yes they're in Oregon all the time, when they talked to that guy at the shop they told him they wanted to go to Eugene which is in Oregon. Are we at the point when we use sexual abuse as if it were nothing, that's wrong, to say it like it was just that or that she's not truly a child, in other states it might be okay for them to sleep together but just because something is legal somewhere else doesn't make it right.

Maybe you're angry at me because you ship it, but that doesn't give you the right to menace people to block them for saying a word against it or stating why it is not okay for them, Neal/Emma is not okay for me because whether it is legal somewhere else or not Emma was 17, to me and many other people that's still very young, too young. I have cousins who are 15-17 (they've had a rough life too) and they still have freaking stuffed animals in their bedrooms, they're still innocent in their way and I can't see them with some 24 year old guy getting pregnant, shoplifting and living in a car, I'm sorry if you ship it but their relationship was the definition of wrong. Many might kill me for this but 17 year olds are still very immature, they might think they're not but one day they'll turn 30 and look back and think of all the childish things they said or did at that age, 17 year olds are still like big children and you can even notice that in Emma, the way she dressed and behaved, despite her rough life she was still innocent back then, that's why it bothers me, Neal knew better he was older and more mature and he knew there're consequences to their actions and he still offered to buy her a drink, and he still slept with her.

You might block me but it won't change the fact that you're crushing me for having an opinion, I'm sorry if it's not the same as yours but I have the right to think differently. At the end of the day I'll be the same but sadly you won't, because this is not about me saying something unrelated to David this is about you liking Neal, this is about your ship, and you might say otherwise but you know it's true, just like I do.