Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-4839682-20131003142941/@comment-23871096-20131009161823

I enjoyed your explanation of OUAT but I wanted to lightly point a few things out i'd like clarified on a few if possible.

Another, smaller thing that bugs me about OUaT True Love is that it seems to be an outside force, rather than something that comes from within—by which I mean, in the other fandoms I listed above, love prevails because the characters who love take big risks and are proactive as a result of that love, whereas in  Once, True Love is talked about it as if it's a tangible thing that can be found.

This portrayal of true love is mere fantasy in this show. A Disney thing. Consistant with the modern fairy tales the show is modeled after. The show is suppose to be this way.

"Lost Girl" is the episode that pushed me from "Rumpel's relationship with Belle is unhealthy" to "Rumpel's relationship with Belle is just straight up abusive." I mean, he chokes her (and not only does he not show remorse or even apologize, it isn't treated in the narrative as a sick thing to do), tells her he's seriously considering sacrificing his grandson's life to save his own, and then she reassures him that he's good. Which is basically how their entire relationship has gone to this point, so... I continue to ship Rumbelle for the same reason I ship Bellamort—it's creepy and gross and abusive and I find that weirdly fascinating as long as it's in fiction and not reality.

I know what Rumple did was plain wrong however I didn't see him choking Belle. I saw him grabbing the chin of what he believed was Peter Pan. A person who obviously caused Rumple some amount of pain in his past.

Also I saw you mentioned about Regina just using one of her guards. Its cool that the story stayed consistant with the actual fairy tale ( : It played off rather nicely.

Also with Rumbelle. It's difficult for me to see this in Rumple. He seems like a genuine derp. But he's suppose to be more then a bad man who's got a little twinge of good here and there.

He's a good man trapped under the influence of a dark curse that made him what he really

isn't. Consistent with the Disney's Beast in BATB. And thats what both the Belles saw.

I love it! ;D This is the elements that make this show worth my time ^.^

And that's saying alot because I have a deep hate for most American sitcoms

And I usually prefer Brittish shows.

7. Mary Margaret is REALLY sex-negative and it makes me uncomfortable.

How tho.

The woman is advocating that the truth should come out and the husband is not. It is antifeminist and misogynistic to deny her the option of telling the wife herself because to do so would prioritize the husband's comfort over the woman's convictions that what they are doing is wrong and the only way to correct it is honesty—the woman should have the agency to tell the wife if she chooses to do so.

I kinda didn't mind seeing Snow and David struggling with this whole love triangle thing. I know they were under a spell and that these two were in fact the true married couple and  Abigail was tossed in by Regina. But all in all. The best thing to do in life is not for a woman to tell the wife about an affair but to stay the hell away from the husband and go find a single man to play with.