Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5154975-20140830155800/@comment-1894786-20150216221402

CoolDudeAl wrote: Hmcooper4 wrote: Generally speaking, the Deleted scenes are not, in and of themselves, canon. We don't always know why the scene ended up on the cutting room floor. Some may have been cut due to time constraints, some may have been cut because the producers decided that the particular details did not make sense in the story, or did not otherwise move the plot forward. The second type of deleted scene is definitly NOT canon (imho), since the don't do anything for the story, and the information contained is never brought into the main story line.

I would pose the question what about the particular scenes that were aired the next day on Good Morning America? While they did not actually air with the show, they were released and shown on air. and the impression that I got was that the only reason these particular scenes were cut is that they needed to trim the episode down to fit in the time slot. (The scene that I am thinking of specifically is the one with Henry and Gold having the conversation in his Pawn Shop). Should we, maybe, give these scenes a second thought, or is that opening up a really big can of worms? Well, it is opening up a big can of worms, but that's okay, lol. Here's my thought: Any scene that was actually far enough through the creative process to be filmed is probably canon. They had plenty of time during writing and before filming to say: "No don't film that scene, we don't want it seen" (See what I did there?) So this means the only scenes that get that far are scenes which are only cut for time reasons, flow reasons, and/or because no vital details are shown in the scene that would ruin the plot of the episodes/future episodes or could not somehow be infered without the scene. That being said, deleted scenes do often clarify things that could have helped people understand things better. I remember people asking how Regina didn't realize the Ingrid was new in town, and low and behold, there is a deleted scene that shows Regina confronting Ingrid about who she is. And trust me, from a money standpoint, you don't want to be filming scenes that will not be shown, because once you get to the point of filming a scene, the actors and crew are all already getting paid, so not showing the scene is just wasting everyone's time and ABC's money. Furthermore, the deleted scenes we see are only ones that are choosen to be shown to us via the DVD/Blu-ray and/or GMA/other official outlits. The fact that they decide to show us these scenes tells me they want us to know they exist, and so that they are most likely canon, but just happen "off screen" for the actual episodes. Plus, I don't think they have even ever retconed something in a deleted scene that has been shown to us, if I'm mistaken, please somebody let me know, but I don't think I am. So I think the safest assumption is to say all deleted scenes are in fact canon, unless proven otherwise, which so far has not happened. I agree. And here's why. There was a deleted scene from episode 3 or 4 showing Rumple, Belle, Elsa and Emma at the barn, where Rumple scooped up ashes from the urn, explaining about how magic can't be destroyed, only change form. And then he later used the ashes on Ingrid. And a deleted scene of Regina and Mary Margaret talking about Robin was included in the recap of the following episode.

So I agree that all deleted scenes up to this point should be treated as canon until they've been contradicted within the actual show.