Thread:Applegirl/@comment-6302057-20141122102004/@comment-4975807-20141206193406

Lady Junky wrote: So yeah, clearly this thread and problem is not resolved as you pretended Nick. Especially when you decided to close the thread as it was over, cos Applegirl answered you. But you missed the second part of this thread, or you tried to pretend it was not important. The thing is, you did something you should not did.

To be fair, he closed the thread under the assumption the topic was finished with. I understand that was his own initiative to do so, and I did not stop him because I too thought the issue was resolved. So you shouldn't be also blaming him if you also saw that I did not do anything when he closed the thread. Also, our policies do not say anything about how message wall discussions are dealt with when a topic is concluded, and who can close and who cannot close a wall discussion.

Lady Junky wrote: What you did on this thread, even if you pretend you respect me, was really rude and disrespectful. Especially the tone you implied As Rena Charming said, you clearly implied something about me, like a double agent or something like that. First, I thought it was me. Maybe i was crazy to think that? Parano? Then, Rena said it too. So yeah, at this moment I understood your message was clear for a lot of persons.

Concerning this, even if he did think you were some kind of spy or double agent for one wiki over the other, I hardly think he still thinks so after not only you, but Rena Charming as well as myself said the two wikis are not rivals or enemies in any way. To be even clearer, since I didn't say it before, no, Lady is not spying on us for the other wiki nor is she spying on the other wiki for us. She's an admin in the other OUAT wiki and contributes towards edits there, and she is also a rollbacker and chat moderator here and also contributes towards edits here. Whether she was a staff member on this wiki or the other wiki first isn't important for me to say because it honestly doesn't matter. What matters is she helps both wikis and has acquaintances/friends from both, so it's only natural that she talks with people from both wikis.

Lady Junky wrote: I already explained you why it was really disrespectful. Firstly, because my presence on this wiki and on the other one is not your problem, and it does not concern you; If the staff accepts and agrees with this situation, it should be enough for you. And don't use bad arguments as you did in order to satisfy your personal curiosity. Yeah, I talk about the "I (and I'm guessing several others) wanted to know". No. Since i'm on this wiki, you're the only person who had a problem with that. Because yeah, the others understood the situation was ok, and there is no discussion about it.

NickM98 asking a question about the other wiki wasn't entirely incorrect because, anyone asking any kind of question is something I as an admin help people with. So, even a user asked question about something already listed in the wiki policies, I would answer and assist as best I can. Even though the staff of both wikis, and many other wiki editors/visitors understand and are aware you is a staff member on both wikis, there are some that might not be. And for that small group of people, most would probably not ask why you is a staff member on both because it's not a difficult thing to put together because if you're a staff member on both, then people naturally assume it means you edits on both. However, it's clear the content of the question, or how he asked it (asking why you are an admin on the "rival" wiki) was what upset you. I can see it was upsetting because your reputation was being given a bad name when that's not how it is.

Lady Junky wrote: Then, on the other thread, you told me I was rude to bring back the past. The thing you did not understand is you chose to close this thread and say the discussion was over. Also, I did not appreciate your lie: "I have apologised for my actions and explained why". No. You never apologised for being rude with me on this thread. Never. So don't pretend you did it, cos it is not true.

Whatever the circumstances of why someone closed a thread, I think you should let it go, in my opinion, because yes, it was a mistake to close the thread. The thread was closed, and I believe this is something we can all learn from for any future conflicts. For myself, yes, I do feel like it was an oversight that I didn't do anything when NickM98 closed the thread because I felt the situation had been resolved and done with. I also did not know you were still angry at NickM98 after the closing of the thread, and I didn't see you mention anything about it during our private chats. Maybe that was my fault because I wasn't really around in chat (wiki chat or Facebook chat) during some times, so when you were feeling upset, I was not there. Had I known, maybe I would have reopened the thread to give a chance for further discussion.

Closing the thread was bad for both you, NickM98 and myself, and I'll tell you why. For you, there was still a lot of unfinished business that you had wanted to speak with him about and the closed thread made you carry around resentment for NickM98, which further exacerbated when you were interacting with NickM98 on other parts of the wiki (the comments section, Utter's wall). I'm saying your anger at him influenced how you behaved with him outside this thread, which is not a good thing because you were finding fault in everything he was doing on the wiki due to the rival wiki issue not being resolved. Such as when you said to NickM98: "You really should change this attitude, cos I don't think you realised it gives a really bad image of you". You were already mad at him for not apologizing on this thread, so you already had a bad impression of him that was made worse with the discussion on Utter's wall.

Furthermore, it was wrong for you to bring up the rival wiki issue on Utter's wall because that's not what the wall topic on there was about. It was a mistake, but NickM98 and I also made mistakes in this too. I regret not stopping you earlier on Utter's wall from arguing with NickM98 because that wasn't the time or place to reopen a past issue. For NickM98, he thought the situation about the rival wiki was done with after he understood the wikis aren't rivals. What I see he missed at time, as did I, was that you felt hurt that he accused you (in a negative light) for being part of both wikis, and you wanted a personal apology, but he closed the thread after realizing the wikis are not rivals. However, his action in closing the thread made you feel disrespected because he did not personally apologize for false accusations against you.

Lastly, both of you need to stop with the snarky comments at each other. That is not going to help fix this situation. Please remember what this wiki is about. A community dedicated to Once Upon a Time where editing pages and conversing about the characters and episodes on the forums is meant to be fun and enjoyable. Look at this whole conversation. Does this look fun to you? I'm getting stressed out from just reading both of your responses. I don't want to be here a week from now and still be trying to calm you guys down and try to ease the animosity between everyone. Everything I wrote in the prior paragraphs is my interpretation and insight into the situation. Please, we all made mistakes in this situation, including me, so can we please stop throwing accusations at each other and bury the hatchet?