Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6949315-20140517155023/@comment-24898439-20140520113409

While your theory is intriguing, there are too many problems with it, I think. First, the question of the sea goddess. In Greco-Roman mythology, there were many, many sea goddesses. Calypso, Amphitrite, Thetis, the Nereids, to name but a few (and the Disney people have had no problem working in a reference to the Odyssey's Calypso; see the third Pirates Movie and then read the Calypso parts of the Odyssey). There would be no need for Ursula to be a doppleganger for Poseidon; indeed, it would make more sense if she were from a different universe of stories. I like the idea of the gods/goddesses being simply very powerful beings. The idea that the gods were once humans whom legend made into immortal, very powerful beings is a very ancient one; indeed, it goes back at least as far as 300AD. So, there is definitely room to bring in the gods as powerful magic users. However, with that being said, I don't think Elsa is a Demeter avatar. First, Demeter was a goddess of grain and the harvest. She was never truly associated with cold so much as she simply refused to bring spring and summer back. The lack of harvest and endless winter was a reaction to her NOT doing something, rather than her actively creating these things. Thus, to have Elsa, who has no properties of fertility (near as I can tell, since I've never actually seen the movie Frozen), be Demeter is a stretch. Furthermore, Demeter was never out of control of her powers. As she was wandering the world looking for her daughter, she at one point pretended to be the nurse of a young baby named Triptolemus. She tried to make him immortal, since she had grown fond of him, but things didn't quite work out like that. My point is that at no point was she ever out of control of her powers. Second, we have had reference to a Greek deity of death on OUATiW, but it wasn't Hades; Nyx is a Greek word for night, and she was earlier than Hades' generation, so it would make more sense for her to appear again later. Instead of having Hades show up and Elsa be an avatar for Demeter, with Anna being Persephone, would it not make more sense, in view of the screwing with the timeline and the death that should have occurred (but didn't), for the Fates to show up? Even Zeus/Juppiter had to bow to Fate, so it would be interesting to see that trope explored even further. Incidentally, one of the earliest recorded fairy tale ( is also a myth (and allegory), namely the story of Cupid and Psyche, which was highly influential on several of the myths on this show already. I'm waiting for that myth to appear. :)