Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-5934324-20130325011804/@comment-91772-20130503213614

JesseJane wrote: Utter's referring to the stupidity of the Death Star, clearly, from what you claimed was an "advanced" society. That, and the "I know more than you! Nyah nyah!" attitude you've displayed in several threads, and on several wikias. Funny that she tried to point the attitude out to you, and you're so offended you have to be rude to her yet again XD

The only reason there is no car that can match a gas powered car (electric cars notwithstanding) is because research into such vehicles was halted (along with the electric car) in the early 20th century by the oil companies. It's still stymied because, well, oil makes an insane amount of money. So to claim or imply that renewable resources aren't viable in the future, for us, or by another, fictional society is pretty silly. Just because it's the premise of a LOT of movies doesn't mean it's the ONLY way things could play out. I agree with the sentiment that a truly advanced society would have figured out how to get the resources it needs in an actually sustainable way; your "invade and get more!" would collapse on itself quickly in reality for a number of reason I don't feel like typing right now. I think I've schooled you enough.

That's my two cents, at least. I'm also gonna unfollow the thread (which means, by the way, that I won't be getting alerts from it, so any reply made to me, I won't see) so say whatever saves your ego. :P

Actually the reason renewable resources technology is stuck in neutral is because of government intermission since all the technologies are heavily subsidized by government there is no incentive to improve anything. Why would they the government will  give them money no matter what junk they put out. the overglorified golf carts AKA Electric cars they have been selling are a prime example. You want this technologies to take off let them compete on their own no subsidies and no favoritism to anyone including the oil companies.

And bye coward...

GothicNarcissus wrote: I'm going to go awfully off topic, but please everybody excuse me. It's a historic fact that the "invade and get more" attitude has led to periods of extreme brightness of societies, followed by a very bitter downfall when a more hungry (but not necessarily advanced) society took over: the Egyptians, the Greek, the Macedonians, the Romans, then the Arabs, the Spanish, colonial Europe... they all have been great and magnificent for some centuries, then declined and withdrew. History will eventually prove USA are next in the line.

So I agree with Utter Solitude and JesseJane: the premise that any future society must necessarily follow this pattern is neither the only one, nor the more likely to happen. Because unless mankind changes its way and tries to find a substainable way to develop, when the next advanced, resource-hungry society takes over we'll be mercilessly wiped out the planet, given the kind of weapons we have now. :) As long as Statism persists and exists as the word's biggest and most pervasive religion we will have nothing but what we now sadly have perpetual war and ever diminishing legalized natural rights. Believe I'd love a NAP (Non Aggression Principle) Voluntarist society but most people do not want liberty and self responsability for themselves and the planet in general! NO! What  they want more than anything is Just masters reigning over them and telling them how to best live their lives with the horrendous  results we all know from  history of that kind of thinking.

Anyhow I doubt that Frankenstein's world would evolve a NAP Voluntarist society and if it did they would not have a group of zealots going from world to world trying to wipe out magic either  as it goes against what a NAP Voluntarist society is all about.