Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-34924658-20160126075725/@comment-26159109-20160126144457

Eskaver wrote: Farerb wrote: Eskaver wrote: Assuming this a a new thread,

2- Cora and Peter Pan (Home Office) were the Big Bads.

Actually, you've got to see Big Bads in terms of the arc and not the season.

So, Broken arc- Cora ,MA: Hook

Neverland Arc- Peter Pan, MA: Greg and Tamara, MNA: The Shadow

Oz Arc- Zelena, MNA: Rumple, Hook

Frozen Arc- Ingrid, MA: Rumple, MNA: Hans

QoD Arc- Rumple, MA: Author, Zelena, Maleficent, MNA: Ursual and Cruella

Darkness Arc- The Darkness/ Nimue, MA: Emma, Hook, MNA: Merida, Zelena, Arthur Exactly, Greg and Tamara can't be Big Bads when there is a bigger threat that gets mentioned all the time, the Home Office (aka Peter Pan). 2C and 3A are basically the same arc, the same story. They can't be seperated just because they are in different seasons.

Cruella and Ursula being big bads is a joke. Not every villain is a big bad, and if everyone is a big bad then that's not really a thing, is it? Right. Villlains and stuff are defined by the arcs and not the seasons. Anyhow, there is typically one entity that is the big Bad and the rest follow suit.

Now, at times there is a background antagonist, but Once isn't doing anyof that currently as even if you stretch that definition, it would be Rumple at best.

About Ursula and Cruella, they are below even Maleficent in the arc because they had no arc, like Maleficent. You could literally replace or rid the show of Ursula and Cruella and nothing major would change. Minor things, but nothing major. Then if you remove a big Bad, the whole thing falls apart. So, remove Greg and Tamara and some major things change, but the arc doesn't fall apart because of them not being shown. I agree. Cruella and Ursula didn't do anything important, Rumple could have returned to Storybrooke with a contrived plot device like a drop of magic or some other bs. Their episode could have been used to better develop the arc.