Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25758988-20150830074347/@comment-25926288-20150830133855

Well, for me a good villain is one that plays his/her role and demonstrates true villany. Villains are usually foils or counters to the hero.

(Hmmmm, Zelena doesn't have much a personality, besides unhinged maniac).

Relatable, but obviously corrupt in their way of thinking.

Rumple is a good villain, if we ignore how one dimensional and cackling he was in 4a and doisoriented in 4b.HE is a wonder foil or counterpart to Emma. Both gave up their child, can tell when others are lying, walled up against others, and discover massive power. Emma is pretty much the potential Rumple, if she didn't have so many outside influences deviating her path.

Regina is decent, but not terribly relatable but much more sympathetic if she was just very vain like her story counterpart.

Ingrid (even though she's just a rip-off alt. Elsa) was a good villain that oppsoed the hero, got things done, and was truly a monster in thought.

Cora was devinitely menacing and actually would have succeeded. She wasn't prone to random monologues and gloating, just reveling in manipulative situations. She was great, even if she didn't have her heart in it. Reasonable enough ambition too.

Zelena was pretty much a Once by-product that is sloightly inconsistent in personality, but I guess if I make my own thing up to connect the two....Zelena is Jonathan's intelligence, consumed by envy or borderline insanity. Whereas, Regina was more of a mix of her two parents, Zelena is pretty much....well, the same I assume, if we saw more of Jonathan. Zelena is cruel, smart, and even is vengeful against Cora through Regina. Anyhow, she wasn't that great a foil and she started off mysterious and wildly intelligent and somewhere that flickered down and her sadistic, crazy self took over. Zelena is growing on me, so I'd say she does well at least at chewing the scenery to shreds.

Malcolm was pretty much Rumple's antagonist by far and was only a decent villain at best because he was portrayed incorrectly. Malcolm is at best clever, while they make Pan some evil genius.....until he's not. They simply should have made him clever and childish and keep that up instead of whatever amalgamation he turned into.

Mal, Ursula, Cruella.........Cruella is a great comedic villain and a good one at that. Ursula was just going with the flow of things, so not so great. Maleficent is confused as what she wants to be.

You don't have to cause mayhem, threaten the entire population or even kill anyone as long as you have the wonderful traits that a hammy, yet dangerous villain have.