Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20170320005548/@comment-9241531-20170320022031

Eskaver wrote: DarlingDavies wrote:

Eskaver wrote:

DarlingDavies wrote:

8Rob wrote: Regina had the dagger the whole Camelot arc and she was not corrupted. Even more, that was her most heroic arc so far

Anna was not corrupted when she had it.

And even more, Gideon had the dagger today and he used it to control Gold and after that he returned it. He was not corrupted by the dagger. Actually he gave it back willingly And I believe Belle has had the dagger several times? Belle has held and used it a few times, all of them because of desperation. To save Anna (fake dagger), to save Hook and stop Rumple's lies, to save Gaston. All led her down more sadness, more pain, and even a casualty. As I said, they don't become obsessive over the dagger (that's just a DO thing), it's that they feel the power of dark magic. Actually just magic in general. Or maybe Belle is just sad b/c no matter how hard she tries, her marriage is ridiculous. But that is entirely different matter for a different thread.

We will definitely not agree on the Bae/dagger thing, which is totally ok. I think 8Rob and I are the minority on the writing in this episode. Cool. (I don't think you're in the minority xD) I think it was purposefully done to prove a point and yeah, a retcon, but it is within the realm of possibility. It;s something that should have been more prevalent a long time ago. I just see that hailing Baelfire as a paragon of virtue is wrong as noone should be held to be perfect in every way.

As a brief aside, it's something they do with every character that I do find annoying. Practically all the characters will become murders as the show progress because...I guess they don't see another way to display darkness. (That's why they talk about the terrible "Heroes don't kill" mantra) In early season 1, it was iffy on Regina's killings, nothing more than a standard villain, then in 2, we "learned" she was a mass murderer on village by village basis. Even Zelena had like no-kills until they brought her back and had her kill Marian. So, I see Bae going dark enough to kill as this issue rather than a simple "It's OOC".

I hear you. This has been super cathartic. Much needed.