Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26159109-20150926225531/@comment-25926288-20150927182514

Farerb wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: Farerb wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: 8Rob wrote: While season 1 is generally at the top, and S4A is generally at the bottom, it's interesting to see such polarized opinions about S3B and S4B. 4A is actually higher on many people's lists than a thought it would be, some people even have it in the 1st three spots. That's what's suprising me the most. I'm guessing it has to do with how much you like Frozen (and don't get me wrong I thought Frozen was a good movie), but the problem was it was just overkill on Once in 4A. If you can accept the fact that you have new main characters and the main characters become supporting, then you have a great story. I get why people were bothered by that. Personally, I've had enough of Snow-Charming-Regina backstories and how they kept contradicting themselves, that I felt it was refreshing to see different character's backstories. The characters were great, Ingrid was a good villain. The season didn't feel over stuffed with random characters and sudden plots like 4B, it had just 2 plots - the main plot - Ingrid and Frozen, the secondary plot - Rumple and the hat, so it feels more focused. Well, that's part of the problem, this isn't an anthology series, so we shouldn't be having new main characters. And while I don't need all my flashbacks to be Snowing and Evil Queen filled, I felt they pushed all the characters aside (main and secondary), for the Frozen characters, who will probably never be seen again (maybe we'll see them in the series finale along with like a million other characters, but that's probably it), which leads to the whole 4A arc feeling very filler-ish. I don't get that filler-ish statement. Every season was self contained, espacially from 3B. There wasn't any supporting character that had long impact on the show. However, at least with the Frozen characters, you got a complete story that had 12 episodes (that's like saying why should anyone watch Wonderland if it is just 13 ep and the characters had no impact on the main show). It is more than you can say about Ursula and Cruella, that weren't developed as characters at all and their time on the showwas short. They were mainly the plot device to bring Rumple back into town. If it was Once Upon a Frozen then it wouldn't be filler, but Frozen dumped itself all over Main Once. When the main characters form previous seasons take a back seat then it becomes like filler. The main plot for the main casr was the Author and that was in the background. Actually most of the characters were on there own little story away from the Frozen plot. Rumple frankly didn;t care and was deceiving. Regina had extramarital issues. Snow and David were trying to raise a child. Hook and Emma were going on dates. That seems like the main cast were not every into the Frozen plot.

Wonderland was a spin-off, Season 4a wasn't so it isn't the same. There should not be self-contained seasons in Once because they have to spill over or we would get a weird reset.

Urusla and Cruella changed as much as Elsa and Anna changed, whcih is not much at all. You can say about them as you can say about the villains. Chop them off and you'll get the same result in the end (Of course half of 4z would be missing because we needed to see Anna meet everyone on her journies thru life)