Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5679696-20130311021240/@comment-43458778-20190810200916

Rubelle wrote: What I think was, Henry Sr's dad was not a king per se. He was more of a local lord who got called king without actually being a king. Happened a lot of time. Local powerful landholders were accorded title king by their subjects without them technically being the ruler of land. Sometimes the main King would be powerful enough to subdue them, sometimes not so much and they could rule side by side, even forge alliances and sometimes the main ruling dynasty would be overthrown by such smaller ones and then they would become main ruling dynasty.

I think something like that might have happened. But cora was quite determined for Regina to be a queen, anyway, to fullfill her own unfullfilled desire.

What I don't understand is, if she could spin gold, why would she ever reduce to such an impoverished state, she could prolly buy any kingdom.

Or the fact that Cora betrayed rumple and their contract made rumple mad enough to do some manipulations. Totally possible.

Anywho, in the episode, Into the deep, regina told rumple they need to stand together against Cora and Rumple says he won in the end. To which regina replies, thats not how she tells the story. Maybe this has got to do with Cora wriggling out of their contract  and yet eventually rumple getting Cora's first born Regina. Which Regina would not  have known since she did not know the History.

And also that Rumple got back at Cora for deceiving him. Offtopic: Rose McGowan was awesome as young Cora. She totally looked a young barbara. Cora couldn't spin gold - Rumpel taught her in exchange for a deal, saved her life and that's how she got a kingdom she otherwise would not have been entitled to have. Technically, Ava unwittingly made Cora a "royal" by behaving like a twit. Her messiness got flipped on her and Regina, Cora's daughter, became Queen in Ava's place.