Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-1916997-20160107193837/@comment-1916997-20160107213438

Lady Junky wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: Lady Junky wrote: A scene is canon or is not canon. There is no "most likely". And again, we don't work with supposition and probability with the scenes, only with facts. As long as Adam did not tell us they are canon, we have to consider them as no canon.

Moreover, "most likely" clearly means that they have a high chance to be, but' they are not confirmed as. Just we are back on the first point: no canon. Not canon and most likley canon pending a check are opposites. You are making them like they are the same. Adam tells us when he shows us something (usually it is only in script form) that is not canon. These he clearly put in a catigory of "should be canon" That's totally different. Stop with the black and white thinking, and get into shades of grey. That's not a discussion about a normal topic. We're talking about facts, about scenes and the canon of the show. Either we use these scenes as facts => canon, or we do not use them => not canon.

Not all discussions have "shades of grey", and this one do not have a shade. Even if some scenes have high chance to be canon, they are not. And saying "they are most likely" is definitely a way to confuse people, Even Adam said it: "I'd have to look at the past to be sure all are canon." There is no "should be canon" in this case. Then the canon of them is "unknown", but it is not "not canon" Like if I write fanfic for the show, that's not canon. If the writers right something, and toss it, that's not canon. If the writers write something, the actors film it, and it is cut from the episode before it airs, it is unknown if it is canon or not (but like I said, with what Adam said, as far as the DVD ones go, they are most likely canon). So if you want we can say "unknown canon", but we can't say "not canon" because that is factually incorrect.