Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-5817180-20151126002724/@comment-26340222-20151129175215

Eskaver wrote: Toma Cre wrote: I think Pan cannot die as long as Neverland exists and its magic does not run out. He is just as immortal as Rumple in a different way. The only thing way to kill him, short of destroying Neverland, is to use Exalibur (or at least part of it) since it was forged to "cut immortal ties".

I think Pan would win in a fight with Rumple, not necessarily because he is stronger, but because he seems to have the mental edge over his son. Everytime they have faced off, Pan usually gets the upper hand. Right! Nice insight!

I think Rumple would win overall because he's more immortal than Malcolm (Peter Pan) and Peter Pan doesn't seem to be well-verdsed in magic. He's like an amateur with an island full of (pixie dust) magic. Personally, I think it depends WHERE they fight.

If in Neverland, then Pan because in Neverland, all you have to do is think of something and you have it, like Pandora's box. I don't see why Pan couldn't just think of Excalibur and have it materialise in front of him. Also, outside of Neverland, Pan would be powerless because Neverland's magic is what keeps him immortal (or young, depends how you look at it) and once Pan's magic runs out (through the hour glass), Rumple or anyone really could kill him because he would go back to the 40 something year old man he was before Neverland.

However, Rumple can use his magic anywhere (aside from his powers of Foresight which he lost a while back along with all his other powers but we'll assume he is still the DO for argument's sake). I believe intellectually, Rumple is smarter but Pan knows how to warp Rumple's mind to make him vulnerable.

So, in Neverland, Pan. Anywhere else, Rumple. (Unless the Shadow is involved but even then, I don't know why the Shadow follow's Pan's orders (it's not like he owns it, the Shadow is just a native resident of Neverland)..