Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20150428200304/@comment-5106672-20150502173041

Eskaver wrote: DSidd wrote: I think the show has definitely delved into deeper grey area with the revelation surrounding the Author manipulating stories and the r word.

Surely, he could have (and probably has) manipulated each and every relationship featured in the book and could have even made characters take their relationship a step further without their implicit consent ... surely this would make any relationships involved forced?

The problem is this show talks a lot about destiny and fate and greater forces working to make things happen, so consent is really a subjective thing in a lot of the situations.

Although I would definitely agree that the r word is an accurate description of the relationship between Regina and the Huntsman (perhaps it was just to make a varied example of her darkness) While I love the way Regina described fate and free will, this gives people a chance to blame an outside force for their problems. Another problem is "fate". The way Regina described it was wonderful, but it makes it as though they can't really put much control in the end result and I can understand why they would react in certain ways. Using what Regina said, Rumple would be fated to have his son become fatherless, which means Rumple would die or become the Dark One. That's where Free Will comes in and he gets to choose, though neither of them a good thing. Either he dies and lose his son or he lives, lose his son and then gets his son back and then his son dies. Um, well if there ever was a tragic character...... Well, Regina's biggest flaw is – and has always been – her tendency to blame things on other people or forces, so it hardly surprises me she's pulling the "fate" card lately. First it was Snow instead of Cora, then it was the subjects instead of her oen behaviour, and so on. Although, to her credit, she didn't have a great responsibility for the way things have blown up in her face despite her attempts at making good choices this time, so I can see why she feels something bigger is tampering with her life (and that thing is ADAM AND EDDY, lol).

Anyways, rewatching Best Laif Plans and Sympathy For The De Vil, I think we can narrow down Isaac's interference quite a lot. He told Mary Margaret and David his intent was to get rid of Cruella from Fairy Tale Land, so he probably just set in motion that chain of events which led to her falling down the Apprentice's portal, which would be consistent with him still having feelings for her and not writing her to just be knocked off by some falling tree or whatever. I also guess there are limits to his powers, possibly such as having people realm-jumping just by writing it, so he had to go for collateral damage first. Also, the Apprentice came after him pretty much rightaway, so had he interfered before, that would have happened sooner.