Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-1916997-20150312220054/@comment-24674051-20150427194051

TheSamTrickster wrote: Hmcooper4 wrote: Eskaver wrote: TheSamTrickster wrote: Eskaver wrote: TheSamTrickster wrote: This thought has been bugging me for a while. The fact that hook was able to go back in LWM. Regina said that everyone that was broughtback by the curse has been completely cut off from LWM, that only another curse can bridge the two worl, yet he was able to freaking go back and deliver the potion to Emma. He apparently found one of those none existent magic beans... I will emphasize again, Regina said no one can go back to LWM with normal portals, for those who were brought back by the curse, normal portals won't work as it divided the realms between EF and LWM. She added, only the dark curse can bridge the two realms again. I know, but apparently Hook's true love and plot devices can transport across realms. No, the real truth is he out ran it after it was casted and then used a magic bean. Folks, you missed (or forgot) one crucial part of the conversation between Killian and Emma. Killian used the Jolly Roger to outrun Snow's curse, so he was still in the EF/FTL when the curse was cast. Once he had outrun the curse, he THEN traded the Jolly Roger (to Blackbeard as we later learn) for a magic bean to get back. So there is not a continuity problem here, because Killian returned to the LWM after the curse was cast. Its you who missed.This statement was said by regina after they were brought back by the curse via, counteracting pan's curse. Therefore, she said that those that were brought back by that curse, cannot use normal portals to go back to LWM as it divided the realms between FTL and LWM, and that casting another curse is required in order to go back to LWM, Regina also said that if there were other way othern than casting the dark curse that she could have been with henry already. This imply that had magic bean was really a way back, regina could have done so, but she knew it wouldn't, which is why its hard to believe that Hook can simply go back to LWM with magic bean. I recall clearly that conversation. However, I took that to mean that the only way to break the barrier between FTL and LWM was to cast the dark curse. But once the Dark Curse was cast (taking all the regular residents back to Storybrooke), the wall would be down to allow travel between realms once again. In other words, the wall only existed until the Dark Curse was once again in place, or basically during the "Lost Year".

Now, maybe my understanding was flawed, but it seems that this is exactly what happened. Not only was Killian able to travel via bean, Zelena was also able to open the Time portal, Ursula was able to get the Jolly Roger from Arendelle, Ariel was able to journey to whereever Posiedon resides, and Anna and Kristoff were able to be wished to storybrooke. (Not to mention the return trip to Arendelle).

Keep in mind that part of the trip for Killian was to bring Emma the Memory Potion. Gold/Neal did not get the memory potion from Zelena until AFTER the new curse was cast, and by the time the pigeon found Killian, it was likely right around the same time as the curse was spreading across the realm.