Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27079851-20171120082917/@comment-1916997-20171129025250

JennaMae wrote: I just think.......if you really did reverse the genders in this situation, people wouldn't even be debating if it was problematic or rape by deception. Most would immediately classify it as both.

An evil wizard purposely using a glamour spell to get help from a woman who comes upon his tower, subsequently seducing her, and then revealing the next day that he had planned on impregnating her the whole time? Yeah, that's not what people are consenting to when they decide to have a one night stand.

And it shouldn't matter if Hook had sex with a random person. Like in real life, if someone lies about having used protection - that's not okay either and should also be considered a violation. Accidental pregnancies happen, but what happened to Wish Hook was on purpose and the whole thing hinged on him being deceived. They could've easily made Alice a child born out of a one night stand between two villains. But they didn't and wrote in the deception specifically for a dramatic reveal. What was shown was that Gothel is a terrible person who uses people to accomplish what she wants, there is no debate there. I'm not saying what she did was right or good, and neither are the writers. The problem is how upset people are getting over a not real event with a fictional character. Like I can't even imagine how some people on here act when actual things come out about real people being raped. Hopefully they are at least 10 times more passionate about it, than they are here, because that involves actual people, not literal storybook characters.