Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26159109-20150926225531/@comment-25926288-20150927181149

CoolDudeAl wrote: Farerb wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: 8Rob wrote: While season 1 is generally at the top, and S4A is generally at the bottom, it's interesting to see such polarized opinions about S3B and S4B. 4A is actually higher on many people's lists than a thought it would be, some people even have it in the 1st three spots. That's what's suprising me the most. I'm guessing it has to do with how much you like Frozen (and don't get me wrong I thought Frozen was a good movie), but the problem was it was just overkill on Once in 4A. If you can accept the fact that you have new main characters and the main characters become supporting, then you have a great story. I get why people were bothered by that. Personally, I've had enough of Snow-Charming-Regina backstories and how they kept contradicting themselves, that I felt it was refreshing to see different character's backstories. The characters were great, Ingrid was a good villain. The season didn't feel over stuffed with random characters and sudden plots like 4B, it had just 2 plots - the main plot - Ingrid and Frozen, the secondary plot - Rumple and the hat, so it feels more focused. Well, that's part of the problem, this isn't an anthology series, so we shouldn't be having new main characters. And while I don't need all my flashbacks to be Snowing and Evil Queen filled, I felt they pushed all the characters aside (main and secondary), for the Frozen characters, who will probably never be seen again (maybe we'll see them in the series finale along with like a million other characters, but that's probably it), which leads to the whole 4A arc feeling very filler-ish. This ^^^^

No matter how people feel Emma and the gang are the main characters and to be put to the side on their show is a disservice to them. I liked it as I do every season, but everyone and their dog Toto could see how Anna hoggged up 45% of the screentime, Elsa had a friendship that would end at the midseason finale, and the Once gang would be stuck in melodrama limbo.

The main problem is that you could see how inserted it was. Sure, it fit the vibe, but you can see they just saw Frozen and changed their product to service those wishes and didn't plan accordingly with the other characters. Like, seeing their interviews about how they wouldn't change those characters and how perfect they were told me that they were not allowed to change them in anyway and that simply bothers me. It's like a filler episode for an half season.

4b was random but at least they could be molded a bit. 4b likely suffered because 4b was probably the whole season 4 (plus some 4a stuff) squeezed together. I can't see why people dislike it and say Lily, when she wasn't even a part of it until the last few episodes.

This reminds me of season 2. 4 epsiodes focused on HO-Greg and Tamara and forget the other 18 episodes, and people think it's bad. That is illogical. There is no 2b, just 2. Cora died early, but so did every other vilalin, minus Pan. Season 4b can be bad for many reasons, but Lily can't be the main reason because she was in the season half for 2 episodes (minus the finale which she was seen in like two scenes.