Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26261153-20150822013142/@comment-1916997-20160221154904

Frulna wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: Frulna wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: Frulna wrote: FrancisPaul wrote: Frulna wrote: CoolDudeAl wrote: Frulna wrote: Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: Frulna wrote: Soo... back on topic.... I don't think all worlds were frozen in time by the first curse, only the ones who had people taken from them. That would include at least Fairy Tale Land, Land Without Color, and Wonderland. I think the Dark Curse effected everyone that Regina had met and brought them to Storybrooke and as a result of touching that world it froze that world as well. Also both times Will came to Storybrook (Right before the Pilot and after teh finale of OUATIW) he did so by choice not because he was cursed, probably have the white rabbit to thank for that. Nope. Alice's Victorian England was obviously frozen, otherwise present-day Alice would've been in her early 40's, and no one from that world was shown to have been taken. Same goes for Zelena and Oz. All the worlds were frozen. When we first see Zelena she is in the Enchanted Forest, we have no idea when she left Oz or what realm she was in when the first Dark Curse was cast. People just assume she was in Oz at that time because it was permanent place of residence, but we do know she had magical items capable of crossing realms and sending others across realms so she could have been in FTL to start her vendetta when the Dark Curse was set. No land has been PROVEN to be frozen except for the ones that had people transferred over with the first Dark Curse. My theory is just as plausible as any others. But you are welcome to believe in whichever theory you would like and I will do the same. Sorry, but Edward is right. Alice's world was also frozen in time, due to Alice, her father, her stepmother, her half sister, and Dr. Lydgate's ages, meaning your theory has a fatal flaw. The most plausible (and most likely correct) theory is that all lands with magic (i.e. all lands of fiction) were affected by the curse. Your "most likely correct" theory has a fatal flaw as well, Alice's world is a world without magic. There is no perfect theory, that is why there are so many. I will believe my theory as I think it fits best as how I have interpreted events and you can believe in yours. That's the best part about theories in my opinion, there is no right or correct one. Alice's land has magic, seeing as the Rabbit could open portals there. Where was it stated that the Rabbit could not visit worlds without magic? We know that is how Jefferson's hat works but I thought the rabbit hole worked more ike the magic beans and could take you to whichever land you were thinking of. No characters native to Alice's world have done anything magical and thought she was crazy for believing in magic, thus showing it does not exist there. My theory only requires one of the many random extras in the show to have been taken from Alice's world, if Will and White Rabbit visit the world it is not too crazy to think someone Regina knew was in the world when he cast th curse. Because we are not likely to ever get an in-show confirmation it is as good of a theory as any. White Rabbit can only go places with magic, otherwise Rumple would have just used him to get to LWM to find Baelfire. And Adam confirmed VE has magic right here:

https://twitter.com/AdamHorowitzLA/status/452593383622451200 I didn't ask if it was ever sad on social media, I asked where in the show was it stated that. I don't follow the writers on social media or listen to spoilers or interviews, with all the retcon the show does anything that doesn't happen on the show holds no weight in my opinion. They just say where they think they are going but seems like the writers change thir minds alot and forget what has been said. And there are no in-show facts that say the White Rabbit can only go places with magic or that there is magic in Alice's world. Well, if you don't want to listen to what the creators say, that is your choice, but many creators of things (books, movies, tv shows, video games, etc.) have been answering questions on social media or other online mediums, because not everything can make it into the show. But just because you don't personally believe it, doesn't mean it is not official Once canon. So realize that any theories you have that ignore what we know to be true based on what Adam and Eddy said, will not be taken seriously. Well I am going to continue to share my theories and defend them regardless of what you "know". You are free to completely ignore them when I do. But by not listening and holding on the the writers every word there is alot less retcon to do. Know shouldn't be in air quotes. We do know it, because the writers (and especially Adam and Eddy) create the canon, so their word is god. If they say something is so, it is so. If they later change what they say, or retcon something that is their choice, but we can't just assume everything they say will be retconed. Anyway, feel free to ignore as much of the established canon as you want, but don't expect to not be called out when you have a theory that contradicts the canon.