Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25617908-20151229021726/@comment-26159109-20151229204343

JMsapphireZ wrote: Killian Jones wrote: I think we have learnt in the show that there are many legends or rumors in the Fairy Tale Land that turn out to not be true. We have to stop taking everything everyone says as a canon fact, and instead as a simple statement someone makes. Lumiere has no way of knowing the absolute truth about the Dark Ones.

On the other hand, I only consider something as a retcon when they change something we know for a fact.

An example of the first kind of retcon are, besides the Dark One origin: Snow White said Regina cursed her because "she was prettier than her", and it was later revealed that the reason was very different... Yet, we never saw Regina say "I think you're prettier than me, so I curse you." Technically, the continuity here is intact... only Snow White is either lying or terribly narcissistic.

An example of what I actually think is a retcon: The timeline of the flashback events of the episodes "Queen of Hearts" and "Swan Song" a time span has been added in between two moments that were originally meant to be consecutive. Can someone explain to me what is the retcon with the flashbacks of "Queen of Hearts" and "Swan Song"? I don't remember well what happened in QoH Hook broke into the Dark Palace to find information from Belle about the whereabouts of Rumple's Dagger, He realized she didn't know and decided to beat her and kill her (what a gentelman), Regina prevented it and told him that after she casted the curse, he could kill Rumple in LWM in exchange that he would go to wonderland to kill her mother.

What makes it a retcon (and a plot hole) is the fact that in QoH, when Regina opened a portal, she and Hook wore the exact same outfits they wore when she stopped him from killing Belle, indicating that it happened moments after while in Swan Song, it seemed like it happened after a day and they had a weird need to change from outfit X to outfit Y and back to outfit X. Another point is that in QoH, Regina used the opportunity that Hook Broke in to send him, while in Swan Song it seemed like she knowing about his past with his father more than just a coincidence.