Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4519633-20141022032431/@comment-25536775-20170118011055

Eskaver wrote: Well, things get complicated then. Undoing spells is iffy because Regina undid Dark Swan's petrification spell without a sweat. I highly doubt Regina is stronger or equal to any DO. So, with that, that means someone weaker can undo stronger spells. So, if anyone struggles they are either fairly weak or it leads to us unreliably measuring things because it would make nosense. This applies to things like Regina + Emma = Hades, when they can't even manage a Dark One alone.

Regina and Cora did easily break Emma's protection spell. They just combined their fireballs. When I say easy, I mean the magic quickly dismantles the spell within a few seconds. It is a bit of a joke if you consider Emma that powerful when she's not. If that were the case, Cora wouldn't have been able to break it at all. (I won't argue Zelena being stronger than Regina because "of course". However, Cora didn't know Regina had magic so Cora could have just been caught offguard not going all out.)

My determination of spell breaking sort of goes:

Easy: Takes a couple of seconds.

Moderate: Take a minute or so.

Hard: Pretty much need help.

If we look, Emma's shield was moderate for Cora, while easy for both Regina and Cora combined. So, by my math, Cora's (skill or) raw power places her on par with Emma's power. Zelena (amped) easily blasted Regina's shied and Regina with one wave. So, Zelena (amped) was above Regina (no surprise). Emma easily broke Regina's shield, so Emma's raw power (definitely not skill) places her above Regina's. Zelena's shield was never broken by Emma. So, Zelena's power (or skill or both) are above Emma's.

Now we all toss our headcanons around (I admit that I do it), but there has never been shown anyone resisting telekinesis. So, I don't know how Zelena tossing Regina shows her power level. You infer she could resist it, but none has ever resisted telekinesis. Like even the "dopplegangers" are moved and affected by it. If TK tosses EQ and chokes Hyde, I don't know how anyone thinks that Regina (or anyone) could resist being tossed.

I agree Zelena's skill level is extensive, but this is where things start getting iffy. Since Zelena is only slightly more skilled than Regina, Regina could then achieve a similar feat. Thus, you'd say that Emma can't just raw power her way through things. Therefore, Regina produced a feat that surpasses Emma. (I know the counter would be that Emma could probably do the same).

(I don't know if it was a mistake, but you said Emma couldn't beat Zelena's skill, but then put Zelena < Emma which would say the opposite.) I meant, Zelena's skill level is incommensurably higher, but Emma has more power.