Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26580042-20160826010854/@comment-27934866-20160827185842

Since Rumple (and everyone else marked with the Mark of Charon) was there at the time when Killian told Emma to sacrifice him to get rid of the Darkness. It's a possible gather up the remains to remake the Dagger scenario but the entire sword disintegrated when Emma stabbed Hook (taking the Dagger with it). However something I overlooked, the potion turns Excalibur into a magic conduit which transfers all the Dark One's magic to him when Excalibur is destroyed, but what convinces me the new Dagger is the fake Dagger is like I said a new vessel for the Dark One's power, and the price of wielding the Dark One's power of it being bound to the person's soul.

Despite the circumstances of Excalibur originally being the Holy Grail, if the fake Dagger is the new vessel I don't see it having effect on the magic of the Holy Grail, and I don't see why it couldn't be the new vessel despite the fake Dagger isn't part of the Holy Grail it's made from the same material.

I know characters like Elsa, Emma, Ingrid, and Zelena were born with their magic, but they still had to learn had to use it, and control it properly e.g. Emma and Zelena were taught by Rumple how magic comes from emotion, and how negative empowers, and positive controls. Same with Elsa learning from Ingrid.

I agree that due to having the magic of the Holy Grail is why Emma and Rumple had no trouble in the Underworld. Despite being a Dark One and giving up the Darkness doesn’t mean she gave up the magic of the Holy Grail, the only problem is Rumple has some of Emma's Holy Grail power due to the fact he has the power of all the Dark One's. However if Emma has gained Merlin's position it would explain who chooses the next Author when it comes to it, and who becomes her Apprentice.

This leads to another question, why was Merlin never found in the Underworld. The Apprentice claimed his unfinished business is Henry, but Merlin would no doubt have unfinished business still remaining The Darkness.