Board Thread:Off-Topic Fun/@comment-4839682-20131031001247/@comment-4975807-20131031181317

Redrose95 wrote: Here are my concerns:

I personally find it confusing when characters like Anow White and Mary Margaret have different pages. I know this is a staff choice, but i presonally dont like it.

I also don't like how you have to go to galleries to see pics of the characters. why not post stills of the plot in the bios and episodes? This is something most wiki's do.

Whenever I try and edit something (that is correct) it gets removed and changed back into what it was (not always by a staff member) this is discouraging to edit. Plus you got rid of the badges, and that made me think that you didn't want people editing exstensivley.

You CAN post stills that are not issued by ABC. I know, I checked. You can also post spoilers and plot info before it's appears in an episode. Like, the Ariel Character page, for example. You can post things about her plot, like "She makes a deal with Ursula and Saves Snow's life and Meets Prince Eric at a ball with the help of Snow." (Not nessesarily like that). You can also post pictures of characters in their info box before they appear in the show.

You shouldn't bust on people for wanting to help with transcripts or recaps. don't blcok them. If someone puts something incorrect on the page, just cange it back. if it keeps happening, block them from the page. I know people want to help and they might be a little intimidated to if they have to ask permission.

I'm not trying to sound rude or abrasive or anything like that. I'm just sharing my opinion. I mean all of this in the highest respect of the staff. Actually, it was a community voted decision to keep the counterpart pages separate. We opened up a thread some time ago and asked the community to vote for either decision, and it was an overwhelming response that users wanted the pages to stay separate.

The reason for getting rid of the badges was not to discourage edits in the least. It was gotten rid of because the wiki staff members, including myself, didn't see the point in keeping them. This was a long time ago and I honestly can't remember if we asked the community for a decision.

The ABC issued only behind the scenes or promo stills are important to the wiki in the aspect we are not just randomly getting images from other websites. This is to show we know where exactly the images are coming from. Sometimes taking behind the scenes or promo stills that are not officially from ABC are in different color quality. Just the other day I saw two duplicates of a behind the scenes of an Ariel photo, and the one not taken from ABC was in a different image color quality.

My issue with adding pre-episode spoilers on a character page is it's easy to fall into the category of speculation. Like, how do we even know for certain Ariel met Ursula first and then met Snow White? Those small details, if not accurate, be can misleading if the order of events turn out to be wrong once the episode airs.

As for adding a photo to the character's infobox before the episode airs, you know our rigid policies. We don't allow promo images for character pages. We also don't allow episode stills to be used as an infobox image unless it's one that is self screencapped. I understand not everyone has access to online streaming links and can take screencaps, but I feel this policy should stay for the same reason about the ABC promo stills and behind the scenes images. It's a way for the staff members to see where exactly the images are being obtained without possibly stealing someone else's work that is nabbed off of a google image search or what not.

I will give you credit for what you said about the transcripts and recaps. I think the biggest problem is how we as admins respond when someone publishes the wrong information or in a style that isn't following the page format as well as when someone tries to help and their work is correct, but incomplete. I know the way I respond when someone writes a short summary and doesn't finish the whole character summary in detail (as Gusey mentioned in his post) is wrong. Like, I wholeheartedly admit I don't like leaving things on the wiki unfinished or with mistakes. When I see those kinds of edits, my instinct is to just panic and want to undo the whole edit, which I know is a stress response and I'm dealing with it in the wrong way by undoing someone else's hard work. I hope to work on this aspect of myself. One thing I remember during my early days (before I was an admin) when I first came to the wiki is I felt it was a fun place to help out and be part of something. Now that the wiki has grown larger than it used to be, I definitely want to be more encouraging and open to other users so they feel welcomed, too.