Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20160516005939/@comment-26967699-20160517141132

Aine1989 wrote: Eskaver wrote: I think the Dragon called it a noble battle, not because it's Regina, but anyone who faces their own natural dark intentions have a battle taking place. And the one she was compared to was Rumpe who clearly wasn't fighting his dark side.

It's also called character growth, not sure if you heard. Regina was blaming someone else as always (the EQ) and she started taking responsibility before Snow and Emma convinced her to do drugs---I mean use the serum. It was Snow egging her on to kill the EQ, not her own idea.

I also think many blow Regina's 'I'm suffering speech" out of proportion. Or at least those that seem to be. Regina's simply saying that trying to be good has a lot of suffering and she's suffering. She's not saying Snow and Emma are not suffering. See the lack of logic.

"Regina saying she's suffering != She's saying Snow and Emma aren't. That's just conjecture.

Next, Rolan is going with the man who practically raised him and Baby Hood is staying with her mom. What's wrong with that? Or do you rather Roland stay with the woman that did all those vile things? You can't just take Baby Hood from Zelena because she has a right to her. Plus, Zelena said they'll visit often.

I know, I can't change anyone's mind, but you can't really loathe Regina's action but ignore that half the heroes agree or force the idea upon her. If you hate that Regina sepearated herself, then you'd have to also blame Emma and Snow who gave her the idea and supported it. XD

Oh, and you pretty much said why Emma is quite pasisve to Regina. It's because Emma a genuinely better person, right? About Roland:In a perfect world, I'd like him and Robin Jr to either Snow and David or Emma and Killian. However, since that would never happen, I'd like Robin Jr to go back to Sherwood Forest with Roland and Zelena to visit often.

By Emma's a better person, I admit I got a bit carried away, I mean that Regina was basically saying that "You don't understand how hard it is to fight darkness because you won." But she does understand how hard it is, even though she was better at resisting it than she was. It's like an addict saying to an ex-addict 'You don't understand how hard it is!' Regina basically said "Yeah shut up your struggles don't match mine."

With regard to Snow and Emma, I simply call that the Regina Effect, where Regina does something bad and everyone just goes along with it ex. in s4 when she took Belle's heart and no one seemed to care. Also, they need someone other than Regina to blame for when this goes wrong.

My whole problem with the separating the Evil Queen from Regina is that it was the equivaent of a 'Get Out Of Jail (or in this case, consequences) Free' card. Regina said herself 'The EQ's baggage, her karma will still be there.' I have a problem with Snow, the woman Regina disowned, abused and terrorised and hurt more than anyone else and Emma, the woman who had her childhood ripped away by Regina, her son abused, was nearly killed and is still treated like crap by Regina simply going "Oh well we can't have you facing consequences for your past mistakes!'

I'm sorry but I don't buy this as a redemption. Redemption isn't magically taking away all your bad qualities so you never have to deal with any consequences. It's working to be a better person by putting in effort eg Killian, Arthur, Ingrid.

And then there was the victim blaming by Snow "I helped bring her into this world." No, Snow you did NOT. You were an innocent child who did nothing wrong.

My other problem is basically, when did Emma ever lash out at Regina for making her an orphan? Or Snow for making her an orphan? Or the people of Storybrooke? Early season 3 was the last time and Regina flipped it to blame Snow for ruining her life. But of course Regina "No One Knows How Bad I Have It" Mills would say 'Oh I have to accept a life of suffering'. When Killian died (for the third time) we didn't have a scene where Emma sits and complains how nothing ever works out for her but she had to sit and listen to Regina complaining?

Finally-Regina straight up said she hates doing the right thing because it never works out for her. What in the actual hell? Refusing, not accepting no matter what...Is it just me who thinks that they are CS symptoms lol