Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-32042217-20170518162408/@comment-31564770-20170523202726

Two things I'd like to point out real quick, first is that during the first curse they had totally different memories instead of just real-worldified bad versions of what really happened. Like how Snow and Charming went from married True Love to never having met, from having to give up their newborn daughter to never even having a daughter because they never met. A real-worldifed altered bad version would be them being married but having a bad marriage ever since their newborn died in a car accident or something. See what I'm saying? If we follow first curse rules, Regina wouldn't have lost teen Henry in a car accident. In her mind, Henry would simply never have existed. Hook couldn't have divorced his wife- Emma- because in the new past they never met. The Charmings aren't a couple with a bad marriage, they never fell in love. Gold didn't have Belle and Gideon leave him. They never existed. See my point? I think that many people here are going about this in the wrong way, all due respect. The point of the curse is to take away what someone loves. It does that by forcing the person to forget everything, then gives them a new personality, a new life, a new past. The misery comes from them being forced to go against who they really are, from some part of them knowing on some level that this life is all wrong. They just can't figure it out because their entire being had been altered. So we can't just do bad versions of what actually happened. We have to do something entirely new, totally different, and totally against who each person really is- for the reasons I just said, as well as for the fact that many of the people we've been suggesting die in the cursed peoples' new memories are still out there probably. The only one we have confirmed at this point to be alive is Henry, so I'll use him as an example. Say Regina thinks Henry died in a car crash. Now, say Lucy is able to get Henry to remember. Henry looks for his family and finds Regina. She thinks he's dead. Even though he's older now, how long do you think it'll take for Regina to figure out that the son she remembers dying is right here? Sure, Henry doesn't have the same memories Regina does. He doesn't know what happened in her mind. So it could take some convincing. But once he does, and Regina realizes there's a massive discrepancy between her memories and reality, how long does it take for Regina to realize something's wrong? You see, there's a huge loophole in having them remember people dying when they're actually still alive. So basically, like I said, we can't just take what happened, de-fantasy it, and make it bad. There's too many loopholes, and it isn't how the curse ever worked.

Ok so the second thing I see happening is people taking my reverse-personality thinking kinda wrong. I'm not flipping who they were in the past, or who they were in the first curse, or anything like that. I'm flipping them as they are in the finale. S6 Regina= emotional, finally at peace with herself, and can make hard choices. Thus, cursed S7 Regina= emotional, but shallowly and afraid of commitment. She's indecisive because she's afraid of failing, and so she stays stagnant in the world, unable to move forward. She's the mayor...'s secretary. She's not happy where she is, but doesn't know how to move forward, doesn't wanna screw up and go backward, and so she feels trapped. She can see where she wants to be but she can never get there- if I have to throw an analogy, I'd use Tantalus. It's a Greek myth, look it up. Basic overview is there's this guy trapped in the underworld and his punishment is that he is kneeling by a pool of water and there's a tree with delicious fruit next to it. He's always hungry and thirsty, but whenever he tries to take a drink or grab some fruit, the pool recedes and the branches pull back so he can never reach them. So Regina, who works for the mayor, who is everything she wants to be, has to constantly be around this person who is all the things her cursed self isn't and she wants to be that so badly but never can. That's what a miserable cursed person looks like. We reverse their personality, not their actions. CDA said Regina made herself real-world small town mayor/queen in the first curse, but never helped anyone so now she's trying to help in a soup kitchen but can't get the money. I'd say that isn't really worse than who she was before the curse, and it isn't really different. Reversing actions/circumstances does not a cursed person make. Remember that in a show about hope and happiness, a curse looks like taking away any chance of either. So I feel like we should be basing our theories around that.