Board Thread:Spoilers!/@comment-26225812-20150625072936/@comment-27138802-20151105185936

Utter solitude wrote: Ray Donovan wrote: Utter solitude wrote: Ah, I see that XD

Jamie and Meghan went on to shows where they were playing major characters. Yeah, Meghan was "starring" at the time, but it's not the same as being a true member of a main cast. It was the better career move for both, and I don't see any reason that it would be tied to how their characters were being used on the show.

I actually enjoyed how SleepingWarrior was handled. The situation felt real to me. I'd prefer any gay relationship be handled kind of the same - if you focus too heavily on it, it ruins it for me. I can understand the desire for more, but it's a fine line between handling something well and making tokens.

That, and some SQ shippers are terrible people (harassing writers and cast members, insulting other fans, etc). Not all, of course, but enough that the fanbase at large has negative opinions of the ship in general. I don't put a lot of stock in what they say as a result.

Sleeping Warrior came and go, I'm not going to cry over it. About Swan Queen, it is being well documented that Captain Swan fandom are the major culprits of disarray in that they often lie and to make Swan Queen culprits as the bad apple in all of OUAT fandom.

Some not intelligent fans think that if you ask a writer a question, or critique a particular story line that it is hate. Just recently CSers actually are called out by TVline writer Michael Ausiello because they were harassing a poll about non-canon couples that should say ILY and Hookers came out of the woodwork. There are people outside of the fandom that don't like CS because of their antics.

Some awesome brilliant CSers were harassing A&E for choosing a Swan Queen art that feature SQ version of Star Wars and how that was bullying to other fandoms (wtf?!)

Respectfully, I don't pay stock to people who actually think SQ are the biggest bullies when SQ is some big bad in fandom. Especially now since many Dearies, SQ, Rumbellers, and non shippers have stopped watching because the show has dropped drastically in quality.

Maybe it is due to your ignorance of some of the long listed antics of OUAT fandom, but when fandom unfairly get death threats or threats of corrective rape just because they happen to like a particular fandom, they aren't necessarily the bullies. Everyone has bad apples in their group but to play coy that SQ are terrible people and the only ones "harassing writers and cast members," I draw the lines. You can disagree with me all you like, but you are flirting the line of insulting me, and that will not be tolerated.

At no point did I claim that SQ shippers were the "only ones". Every ship group has bad apples. Of course you'll defend the one you seem to be a part of, and that's fine. SOME SQ shippers have a history of being awful. That statement doesn't mean other groups don't. CS has been awful at times too.

We also need to remember that the Internet is not the entire fanbase. It is comprised of some of the most vocal, and negative, fans. On all sides.

Definitely agree. I understand.