Board Thread:Spoilers!/@comment-24589671-20150209233906/@comment-24674051-20150211015619

Eskaver wrote:

WorldHopper22 wrote:

Eskaver wrote:

Chameleon-Guy wrote:

FrancisPaul wrote: I don't think they were discussing escaping the curse. If Rumple kmew a way to come to the LWM he wouild not need the curse I still find it ironic that a lot of fairy tale people got to LWM before Rumple, considering it was his life's mission. I think it's because he wanted to bring magic with him to the LWM. HE wanted his son, but to keep his power. The sorcerer wouldn't help him. The wishing star wouldn't work. The shadow probably wouldn't help him. Magic beans would work, if he got two. ?But he wouldn't have the slightest clue where to find him. I don't think the Wishing Star would work no matter what. If the Wishing Star had the ability to send someone to the LWM, then Rumple could of easily trcked someone with a pure heart to wish him to Earth. I think the Wishing Star was able to bring Anna and Kristoff to Storybrooke because Storybrooke is a part of Earth but it's not from Earth, it was made from a magical curse. That's why the White Rabbit was able to come to Storybrooke, and A&E said that the rabbit can only travel to magical realms.I consider Storybrooke to be "micro-dimension", a place stuck between LWM and the Enchanted Forest. I agree, but my main point was that Rumple wanted magic with him. We don't even know if the wishing tar would be able to send him to a Land without Magic, but I assume it could. I assume even a genie could do such a thing. My sentiments as well. We know that the Magic beans can take a person to the LWM, since it brought Bae here in the first place (when he visited the Darlings). And because of the neverland arc, I think it is safe to assume that the England visited by Bae is the actual LWM England, and not the Victorian England of Wonderland, since both Michael and John were able to cross into StoryBrooke.

The point of the curse is that Rumple wanted to keep his MAGIC when he came. That is why he built the curse with the 28-year escape clause and smuggled the potion of True Love across with the curse. He had everything planned so that he could be in the LWM, but have his Magic Intact. He did not count on the glitches of the town boundry (the best laid plans of mice and men...), but he was able to come up with a counter spell to at least keep his memory intact (with a little magical help from Emma, since her magic does seem to be somewhat functional in the LWM, though how much remains to be seen), which allowed him to at least reunite with Bae.

We know that Ingrid did NOT have her magic while in Boston. We know that The Dragon did have some magic, as did Walsh (to be able to switch forms as he did). I suspect that the crane incident as a Teenager was not a fluke, but a small surfacing of Emma's powers.

Back to the topic at hand, I think the EF Backstory is going to relate to how the QOD arrived in LWM, and the present day is going to show how they end up in storybrooke, including Rumple.