Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-29714904-20160821170603/@comment-29714904-20160822054011

Farerb wrote: The first part of season 4 is a Frozen fanfic. If you like Frozen, you'll either be happy with 4A (if you like it in a superficial way) or you'll get angry about them destroying the themes of the movie.

In the second part of season 4, Storybrooke is threatened by middle aged women, but later on we discover they are pointless when one suddenly leaves, the other is cold blooded murdered by Emma (which has shown no remorse, what a savior amirite?!?) and the last one is reunited with her daughter, which introduce a new plotline they are not going to follow through. At the end, it is revealed Gold is the real big bad because he wanted the same thing Regina did, but she's a hero somehow. Oh and Zelena is Marian because of fanservice and shock value. Regina saves the day, Emma saves Regina (quirbaiting, they want SQ to keep watching) and Emma turns into the dark one.

In the first half of season 5, Emma turns out to be the worst villain the "heroes" have faced: she turns a dwarf into a tree (and everyone forget about him so no big deal), she turns a dwarf into a stone (but this one gets saved...by Regina), she ties Disney princesses into the front of the car like she is in an 80's movie, she abduct Gold and threaten Belle (but no one cares about Belle) and she takes the heart of an 12 year old girl so her son will be destroyed. But guess what she was never EVIL, she was just insecure about moving into a house with a guy, this is not about her, this is not about her family, this is about a guy, who somehow turns into a second dark one (this never makes any sense, but just roll with it cause our questions are pointless... While watching a show that doesn't make any sense). Hook tries to kill them all, but Emma kills him and he dies.

But, because Emma is an obsesive dependent woman, she drags all her family into the most dangerous place called the Underworld, only it turns out that it is exactly like storybrooke where people do exactly the same thing, she tries to save Hook, but fail and all sort of nonesense happening like Belle's pregnant but she can't have the baby because of some retcony deal Rumple made, Zelena is good somehow, Snow takes charge for one episode and then she goes back to being the background character that she is, Cruella comes back to only make jokes, Robin dies bit he doesn't get an Underworld arc and Hook gets back by Zeus ex machina because is the purest man who ever lived.

Season 6 looks promising, but so did season 5 so...

Recommendations for better TV shows: Buffy the Vampire Slayer (a show where the complex heroes actually save the world), Game of Thrones (but the books are better) and Jessica Jones.

All of that almost gave me a heart attack. I can't believe they turned emma so evil.. wtf.. It's like they just pick words from a hat to decided what the next plot will be.. Hook becomes the second dark one? WTF underworld.. ridiculous..

I seen every one of those shows you said. game of thrones depressed me in a good way lmao.

Any others with a strong female hero main character? A show where evil is actually punished and the good guys are actually competent?