Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20160418005754/@comment-27213286-20160419060741

Eskaver wrote: Farerb wrote: Eskaver wrote: Edzz wrote: Eskaver wrote: The LGBT development is a great topic and it's a good debate to have as well.

First off, characters aren't any specific sexuality unless the writer comes out and says so. Thus Ruby being bisexual isn't anything to fuss at because the writers never said she wasn't.

The issue with the plotline is that "Quality is better than Quantity" and while Love is Love (well, to a degree, because there are different types of love), any respected viewer would see that it wasn't done superbly well. I can be for the rushed established relationship on one episode characters, but never have we seen Twu Luv devalued so much. Yes, offscreen mentions is one thing, but love isn't something that you rush, especially within a day. I mean Once was parodying that you don't just love and marry in a day, yet now these two are likely in some commited relationship. The issue is also that it was built up over seasons and it not being Mulan is a shame and a disgrace. So, instead of fulfilling a plotline, they created a new one that wasn't necessary.

Speaking of, while we may see Red again, we're less likely to ever see Dorothy so these characters are set up as Once's prececdent to never be seen again (for a long time). Doing a hyped storyline to end and be written off or should I say checked off is a travesty regardless of what the matter is. That even goes for the scratched off names because Hook had that power for a while, yet he randomly mentions it offscreen and suddenly remebers it and um, what are these guys sitting round for! The other thing is although I'm not part of that community, I'm certain that people don't up and go to do things out of the blue. Even in heterosexuality, I don't think people just go "I'm alone looking for people like me" to "Maybe all I'm loking for is love" to practically sexually assaulting Dorothy (to save her life). Snow and noone batting an eye is totally cool, but I guess this is the eventual hope, but that was just too easy. Plus, they really were pushing copying Snow and Chamring in everyway that it really starts to feel that they have no originality left. First HellWitch being like Rumbelle, then RubySlippers being like Snowing.

Even going back to the heroes' dilemma, it's stupid now. Yes, I used the "s" word: stupid. Hook is an adept killer; just write three random villains or baddies down there and then everyone could poof on home. Why are Rumple and Belle still in the underworld? Rumple is literally sitting around doing nothing and the group didn't really need him. Robin and Baby Hood should have left as well.

This episode is more or less a downer because it's the typical Once shift when the heroes are doing nothing, there are no real stakes, the heroes sitting around going to Grannies, casualties by the wayside, and nothing until the hype for the finale. I Think only people that are alive can be written on the tombstones intended for Emma, Regina and Snow Yes, Blackbeard can go and some of those pirate lackies. XD Blackbird, Bo Peep and king George. Or even those peasants nobody cares about... Yes. I can deal with Hook could only write one or something, but these people deserve death. I mean trade lives and everyone could just poof out of there and stop being stupid. Robin, Baby Hood, Belle and Rumple should just leave. At least Robin and Baby Hood because the Charmings could care less about Rumple and Belle.

I was under the impression that Hook could only use names of alive people in the Underworld. He can't just write down 4 random names to replace himself, Emma, David, and Regina. The only names he has to choose from are Rumple, Belle, Zelena, Robin, Henry, and Baby Hood. The only one powerful enough to get them all out of the Underworld without defeating Hades is Henry, he could easily just write them all back to Storybrooke with his magic quill.