Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-25926288-20171209015815/@comment-31937823-20171209172737

This episode was as expected (for the most part). I loved the present day scenes completely. The tension between Ivy and Gothel, Weaver and Rogers, Tremaine and Lucy. These were all great character dynamics, and a lot of insight was gained into all of these characters.

It was very well-written. Unlike Eloise Gardener (707), the dialogue was very smooth and progressed the episode well. Out of this episode, my favorite scenes have to be: the discussion between Weaver and Victoria about Baelfire, as well as the ending scene with Drizella looking in on her mother. The former scene distinguishes the character of Victoria from Cora and ties back to the events before this season.

Glad they are fleshing out the characters. Victoria is now more than a stereotypical villain. It seems that she just wants someone to love her and have their attention, which likely developed from all of the years neglected when spent in the tower. The motives of Weaver and Gothel are more consistent.

Side notes:

- in that scene with Gothel and Rumple, where she says “mother means different things to other people” was I the only one that thought she sounded like a cult leader?

- I do think they are setting up Captain Frog in the present day events. Glad Tiana is setting up her business.

- The flashbacks were good. However, I hope we get future episodes that elaborate on Marcus’s death, Cecilia’s poisoning and Rapunzel’s time spent in the tower.

- I hope this isn’t the only Victoria centric of the season, that would be disappointing. There is still a large gap between Rapunzel and the woman who casually murdered two characters in her first episode.