Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-25926288-20151211170125/@comment-28162607-20160419162337

Farerb wrote:

Aine1989 wrote:

Eskaver wrote: Vid is okay, but you don't really even need that when in 517 (this most recent episode) you had Hook: "You idiots don't have a plan."

Emma: "I have a crazy idea."

Hook: "Yes, love. I can never doubt you, my love. Never ever."

It's hilarious because he's being harsh towards the people that he almost killed that came to help save him and risked their lives. I'm honestly wondering if what you'd have been like if Hook had said "No Emma I don't believe you." Probably something along the lines of "blah blah how dare he not believe in Emma." Also I must have missed the part where he said 'idiots.' How very dare he be skeptical of Regina's plan, which he did not doubt after she explained it.

And I'm assuming you're referencing Henry here, so I'll bring him up. Yes, Killian is so awful for not treating Henry like a precious special snowflake. Henry's not a baby, he wants to be taken seriously, meaning he can take a little "You should be doing what you said you'd be doing."

I'm pretty sure Killian could run into a burning building and die saving a bunch of orphans and you people would still find a way to twist this into 'HE'S A VILLAIN!!!!!!!' He still acts like a d-bag, and there's a pattern here to the way he treats Emma and other people. Regina mostly has good ideas (until the plot needs her to be OOC and act dumb), so him questioning Regina while saying that he trust Emma's instincts blindly is wrong. Judging Henry was uncalled for and ungrateful since Henry does it for him, he can show a little gratitude and not be a complete ass about it (and you can like him, but atleast admit he was wrong here, I like Regina a lot and I often criticize her character and how hypocritical she can be).

Hook's dialogue has a pattern here and it's ridiculous. It is basically: Hook to everyone else who are not Emma: sass, snark, judgement etc... Hook to Emma: manpain, angst, teenage love unrealistic proclamation. Emma to Hook: affirmation, teenage love unrealistic proclamation. Pretty sure it's just Regina that he's snarky to and she's just downright mean to him sometimes. With Robin we have seen him being supportive ("Mixed emotions, I'll bet."), with Charming he's playful, grateful and kind (5x18), he hasn't spoken to Snow since s2 so not much there, Henry he's gentle in s3 (after Neal's death), barely speaks to in s4, then got him in on Operation LS,so teamwork there. In 5x16, he was the only one doing any actual parenting. There was no point in Regina and Emma showering him in compliments for something he didn't even write. Yes, the delivery could have been better (although I'd like to see you be tortured, find out your ex is being tormented and lose your bother and be completely chill) but people need to stop acting like he said "Henry you are the worst author ever."

I see Emma and Hook as more 'Calling out the bullshit/Admitting the bullshit', Hook compliments her a lot, banter and some serious discussions. Emma has talked about her pain (lost childhood, parents) to Killian, so where's her 'womanpain'?

Remember guys, don't talk about your feelings with your SO, that's manpain, and v.bad.