Board Thread:Spoilers!/@comment-4877635-20150218173447/@comment-1867880-20150427074817

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote: MBrody wrote:

MyPretties wrote:

MBrody wrote:

Dr. Kangaroo wrote:

MBrody wrote:

Edward Zachary Sunrose wrote:

Hmcooper4 wrote: I have a feeling that there are going to be some interesting scenes with Lily. Assuming for the moment that Agnes Bruckner is portraying the adult Lily, there have been BTS photos of her with Kristen, Bex, and JMo (just to name a few). Now, those may be just the stars chatting off camera, but just the simple fact that all 4 women are in Vancouver at the same time would seem to imply at least a little bit of shared screen time. (or in this case, massive scenery chewing.)

And, if Lily is the sorcerer's daughter, she is likely (though Not Guaranteed) to be magical herself. Just what we need, another Queen of Darkness. Can we get a call out for at least ONE more King of Darkness besides Rumple? :) I think Jafar was our one taste of a good male villain for now. The majority of fairy tale and Disney villains are female. So unless Once does a Hamlet/Lion King, Hercules, Princess & The Frog, or Tarzan arc, or decides to expand on Gaston, Hans or Hook as major male antagonists, we probably won't get too many male Disney villains on Once anytime soon. The villain of Hercules was female. Hercules's nemesis was Juno. In the real myth, that's true. But in the Disney universe, his villain is Hades. Well, I was mainly thinking that if Heracles's story came onto Once Upon a Time, it would be Hera as the villain, not Hades. The fact that they switched that in the Disney film had always annoyed me. I'm very particular when it comes to Greek mythology. Well the thing about the Disneyfied Hercules movie is that they made Hera Hercules' biological mother. All of the changes they made to the Hercules story to make it child friendly, I'm thinking that the only logical villain was Hades. It's mainly disappointing, because Hades was actually rather decent for a god in the myths. When Heracles enters the Underworld, Hades just lets him have Cerberus, and according to something I read, he took it up with Hera for sending him there. (I also would like to add that the original Snow White fairy tale is an example of a biological mother being a villain.) But I admit that idea might not work for a kids' movie, but I still think there are other villains that could have worked, such as Ares or Kronos, who actually had villainous roles in the myths. It's because he's the Lord of the Dead, that simple. Death is associated with bad things, the Underworld is associated with Hell. Yeah, they could've gone with other gods, but they made it more Western.

The only problem with that is that the Greeks never viewed Death as evil, nor the Lord of the Dead. True, no one liked to talk about him, but he wasn't considered evil. Besides, Greek mythology is Western; that's where Western culture started.