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Ok I have been thinking of a few ideas for a few new spin off shows. 1) Land Without Colour: So here's my initial thoughts. Time frame: The missing year. Dr Whale knows he will be sent back to the Enchanted Forest instead of traveling to his own world so he panics and knows he needs a bean. He discovers Anton with the beans that he has taken for himself because he wants to travel the worlds rather then going back to a lonely world on top of his beanstalk. They make a deal (to be detailed later) and Dr Whale is about to use the bean but is too late and travels with the others to the EF. He disappears from the crowd to use his bean to travel back to his world. While the portal is opening Red discovers him and wants to know where he is going. He admits he still needs to go home and save his brother. She admits she doesn't want him to go because she has developed a love for him and he convinces her to join him. She reluctantly agrees and find themselves in the LWC. While there after seeing what had become of his brother, Red asks him how he hopes to save him. He replies he knows of a heart in a being that can never die. He is very vague about who he is and how he knew about him. They journey together and meet several characters such as the Mummy and the invisible man but they still have not found the being with a heart that can never die. However they do discover a man with long hair who introduces himself as Van Helping. They discover that he is the monster hunter who is after a werewolf who has entered the world only a few weeks ago aka Red. They realise that Van Helsing was born in the EF and turns out to be Red's father. He divorced Anita and even hunted her till she meet the wolf pack. We see flashbacks to see how they meet and how they became enemies. He doesn't know about Red being his daughter and neither does Red. Meanwhile a few battles occur between Red and Van and Frankenstein attempts to help his true love. They manage to escape with the help of the invisible man and continue on their trek. They discover a large foreboding castle. Entering they are attacked by bats, Frankenstein pulls out garlic and crosses and causes the bat to change into a man. Red seems confused and we see a flashback of Whale in Storybrook library researching horror stories and realises there are characters in his world that can help him. The flashback ends with him leaving and a picture of the inside of the book showing Count Dracula. The vampire attacks them and so does Van after following them. He tells Red that she needs to die before she infects someone else, Red screams that she was born a wolf. Meanwhile Frankenstein and Dracula fight. Van tells red that he killed his wife who was born a wolf Anita. Red disclaims she was her mother. Van is shocked to discover this news. Dracula goes into to bite Frankenstein but Red screams not to kill the man she loves. Dracula doesn't listen and reaches over for the bite but Van reacts and pushes Frankenstein out of the way and he kills Dracula but gets bit himself. He asks why Frankenstein wanted Dracula for. He explains and Van rips out his heart and gives it to Frankenstein, he apologises to Red and asks her to kill him as he is now a monster. We see them trek back to Frankenstein lab and uses the magical heart of a hero and restores a better life to his brother. Red decides while she still loves Frankenstein she wants to return back to the EF and to Granny, He agrees and uses their last bean to travel back to the EF and they get back in time for them to be sent back to Storybook. The deal with Anton could be anything and can be placed anywhere in the series to explain it. (I had not given it much thought).

2) World of Tiny People/Victorian England: Time frame: Same as before Anton decides to travel the worlds. Anton or Anton Gulliver travels with the group back to the enchanted forest then uses his beans to go a land of tiny people and fairies. He realises he is a giant even in his dwarf form. Before long he is discovered and attacked by a small and tiny army who bound him up and he is trapped on the ground. It turns out the leader of the army is Tom Thumb, he is eager to learn how this person grew to such a height. He reports his findings to the worlds royal family, specifically the queen Thumbelina. Impressed by this large man Thumbelina approaches him and we learn through flashbacks how she became queen and Tom Thumb's origin. Anton who still has a bit of the mushroom from Wonderland from Cora, he eats it and grows even smaller till he is the same height as his captors. He manages to escape but is stopped by Thumbelinas magic. Tom thumb is jealous of Anton.so ability to change his size. Anton introduces himself and explains where he is from he is a much taller giant but he has the ability to change size with the help of magic mushrooms. Thumbelina is impressed further by this man and invites him back to her home. This further irritates Tom who is a power lord who wants to steal the throne from Thumbelina and rule the land but feels he can not do it until he manages to steal a piece of mushroom. We learn through another flashback we learn that Tom thumb was a human sized person but was cursed in another world by Blue stuck in his size till he finds true love. But he is a spoilt and selfish person he attacks Anton and steals his mushroom and grows to a human size and dethrone Thumbelina Anton escapes the prison he is out into by eating mushroom himself as Tom didn't steal it all. He grows so big he breaks the cell and the dungeon and keeps growing and attacks Tom and because he is bigger he wins and Thumbelina returns to being Queen, tom is kept as a prisoner in his tiny form.

Next arc shows Anton traveling again to Victorian England and shrinks to human size and meets a young woman called Jane. They fall in love and travel round the land. Anton begins to change his form from the constant use of growing and shrinking, his left arm grows and his back grows giving him the look of a hunchback, the local people call him Quasimodo and abuse him something rotten. The mayor of the town kidnaps Anton and hides him in a cathedral. Jane is needed to discover his location. So she finds an advertisement for a detective who always solves his cases. She meets him and we are introduced to Sherlock Holmes. He takes the case and tracks down Anton and battles the mayor in a fist fight. Jane manages to find Anton in the cathedral and drag him out. Sherlock manages to win and arrests the mayor. Anton tells Jane that he needs to return to the EF so he can be restored to his old appearance. She admits she loves him but can not be with him while he looks like he does because of the impact it would have to her life by the public. Now we have a choice here, I want Sherlock back in Storybrook but whether his appearance in this series was enough to justify it I don't know. But either he can travel back with Anton or can stick with Jane, because she is the star of my next spin off.

3)Neverland. Time frame present day. A flashback opens the show that shows the sinking of the King and Queen of Adendale, we see them sink in a magical whirlpool which transports them to Nederland. Peter Pan knows they have arrived on his island and tracks them down. Meanwhile in present day Jane is sent to travel to the jungle but again get stuck in a magic whirlpool, she is accompanied by Sherlock due to the friendship bond he and Jane have, plus she hires him as protection and she is traveling with her new husband Clayton, Her father also accompanies her. That find themselves in Nederland and in a mass of jungle. No sign of human life but according to Sherlock there was life around and the place seems deserted. Gorillas make themselves known and Jane starts studying them. A human roar scares them away. Clayton only wants the gorillas to kill them for profit. Another flashback shows that Peter pan kills the king of ardendale and is about to kill the queen when she admits she is pregnant and please don't kill her and leave her baby be. Pan knows that a boy is what he is looking for and knows he must keep her alive at least till the baby is born. She gives birth and is promptly killed. The baby is placed in a prison, a gorilla finds him and rescues him. Meanwhile Jane discovers Pans old base and Sherlock checks the area and finds several clues to who owns the land. He knows it a magical boy and knows they left. Clayton manages to gather the gorillas in cages and is trying to get them on board his ship. A human male dressed in a loin cloth rescue the gorilla and attacks Clayton. Sherlock approaches Clayton after following a trail of the man. Clayton is killed by the man and Jane approaches them and introduces himself to the man who calls himself Tarzan. They experience their lives on the island known as Nederland.

Ok so thoughts .... 