Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-24271102-20150612100132/@comment-25926288-20150621141138

Lady Junky wrote: Eskaver wrote: SkyCloud24 wrote: I'd like to see Rumple's death. I never liked him. I was glad when they killed him off during the Neverland arc but then he came back and I was pissed. Kinda like how some people are pissed Zelena came back (I absolutely love Zelena!). Also, now that Rumple isn't The Dark One anymore why keep him around? For Belle? Never did like that ship. Rumple is always f****** shit up. Well, Rumple is one of the foundational characters and he is literally the best acted and written (before season 4) character, next to Regina.

Now even if I'm a fan of the character's story and acting, I wanted him to die at the end of season 4 because they were saying that not all true love prevails, but now they are writing him as if "Forget everything in season 1, 2, and 3. Love only Belle and let's white-wash you completely because we want you to be evil, but good eventually, but both....oh, shiny!"

That's like people's irrational hatred of Snow. They want her dead, but they should know that it would destroy the show. The show has always been Emma v. Rumple, Regina v. Snow as the basis. (If you look closely you'll see how similar/opposing each are.)

Hook, Hood, Belle, etc can die anytime and not take major umph from the show......before it was Once Upon A Ship (Aka Season 2/3a)

Just about the ships. I agree with you about the whole drama OutlawQueen and (especially!) CaptainSwan. But I disagree completely about Belle. Her love story with Rumple was introduced right in the middle of the first season! Moreover, she and Rumple represent Beauty and the Beast. They're together because it is their story. That's not something completely made up for the show like the two others. So yeah, I agree about the first two, but comparing the Rumbelle ship to them? I think it is wrong and completely unfair.

It is like if we compare Snow/Regina's relationship with another "bad" relationship. Rumple and Belle together because it is their story, they're just respecting their story. And yeah; kill Belle would be a major thing in the show. Not because of the ship itself, but because of the story. Belle's death would be a (too?) big twisted of her story? Probably. The cases are not the same :) Rumbelle's roots and origin are not the same :) Lol, I didn't mean Belle and Rumple being together because of originality; I was talking about how they try to have their cake (evil Rumple) and eat it too (Redemption). And yes, I agree that killing Belle would be a major moment. (I was going under the lines of sarcastic hints at Belle's limited scenes and apparent lack of character arc. I like her as a character but she is given less and less to do each season.) Belle's death would be a big overall death, but character wise, it wouldn't affect much. I don't want Belle to be written off and it would be unnecessary and poor choice, but how many would she affect? Rumple, and.................that's it. The show wouldn't benefit from Belle's death or eternal coma or whatever because it treats her like an afterthought. Belle's death would mean more if she was better integrated.

So, yes not the same as the "ships", but the treatment of them (and Snowing at times) really degrades their value.